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compton11:
the question first is who built u?

Or u just built yourself!

You see why I think being religious means you need to be a little bit mentally below average.
You are arguing from the premise that nothing exist unless its created, so who created God on that premise?
Your God came from thin air? You can't simply have brains and come up with such poor logic.

This reasoning is why I think must of you don't have working Brain cells. It creates a problem of infinite regress. Because going by your logic, there's going to be an infinite number of creators since nothing can exist without a creator including your God, the thing that created your God and so on. You don't expect me to agree that God created me and then agree that nothing created God. Can't you reason?
Does that make any sense to you?
Did you not do philosophy and logic in school? Why are you reasoning like an illiterate

The reasoning is stupid and irrational

compton11:
the question first is who built u?

Or u just built yourself!

if you were a smart person like most atheists, You would have Just said I don't know who created us. Instead of creating a ridiculous of logic of cause and effect which will also apply to your God.
Do you think that we became athiest just because we wanted to, we are atheists because we dissected everyone opinon logically and empirically and on that ground, we have not seen enough reason to accept the existence of a God. Your attempt is even one of the worst ways of arguing for god. It recks of ignorance.
This is why atheist/agnostics are smarter, we don't claim to know, we only accept evidence and we genuinely accept when we don't know instead of making shit up.
Your primary 2 cause and effect logic is a problem and it's a laughable philosophical ground to prove God.

I'm going to educate you abit though I normally don't engage your likes, only someone with an IQ below average will see cause and effect as prove for god. Read about "turtles all the way down" fallacy.
It explains the problems associated with your way of reasoning. It will cause and infitef regress like "tuurtling all the way down of infinite creators"

The only way you can stop the infinite regress is for you to commit a fallacy of special pleading (I hope you know what this means, if not check Google) by inferring that your God is the uncaused cause, which in anyways you will have to provide evidence for it.

In Philosophy, we ask questions like, if you think that your God is the uncaused cause, why can't the universe be the uncaused cause?
If your God cannot be created then why can't the universe not be created, why must the infinite regress end with you God, whu can't it end with just the universe?

I'm not sure your are mentally sound enough to engage me in this debate.

FatherOfJesus:
if you were a smart person like most atheists, You would have Just said I don't know who created us. Instead of creating a ridiculous of logic of cause and effect which will also apply to your God.
Do you think that we became athiest just because we wanted to, we are atheists because we dissected everyone opinon logically and empirically and on that ground, we have not seen enough reason to accept the existence of a God. Your attempt is even one of the worst ways of arguing for god. It recks of ignorance.
This is why atheist/agnostics are smarter, we don't claim to know, we only accept evidence and we genuinely accept when we don't know instead of making shit up.
Your primary 2 cause and effect logic is a problem and it's a laughable philosophical ground to prove God.

I'm going to educate you abit though I normally don't engage your likes, only someone with an IQ below average will see cause and effect as prove for god. Read about "turtles all the way down" fallacy.
It explains the problems associated with your way of reasoning. It will cause and infitef regress like "tuurtling all the way down of infinite creators"

The only way you can stop the infinite regress is for you to commit a fallacy of special pleading (I hope you know what this means, if not check Google) by inferring that your God is the uncaused cause, which in anyways you will have to provide evidence for it.

In Philosophy, we ask questions like, if you think that your God is the uncaused cause, why can't the universe be the uncaused cause?
If your God cannot be created then why can't the universe not be created, why must the infinite regress end with you God, whu can't it end with just the universe?

I'm not sure your are mentally sound enough to engage me in this debate.

boy all these rubbish u put here is beyond my knowledge of English.


Simple question and u are spewing rubbish!


Did u build yourself?

compton11:
boy all these rubbish u put here is beyond my knowledge of English.


Simple question and u are spewing rubbish!


Did u build yourself?

My parents built me. They had sex and fertilization happened. Are you a novice?

Did your God build himself?
Who built your God?
Your God cannot exist without a creator, this simple law of cause and effect.

FatherOfJesus:
My parents built me. They had sex and fertilization happened. Are you a novice?

Did your God build himself?
Who built your God?
Your God cannot exist without a creator, this simple law of cause and effect.

I like this your answer!


What is the origin of your first ancestor?


How was he/she came to the earth?

compton11:
I like this your answer!


What is the origin of your first ancestor?


How was he/she came to the earth?

I don't know but also guessing their ancestors created them as well, what do you think is their origin?

FatherOfJesus:
I don't know but also guessing their ancestors created them as well, what do you think is their origin?

hehehe I said your first ancestor.

compton11:
hehehe I said your first ancestor.

there can't be first ancestor according to your cause and effect logic. You no get brain?

Even the first ancestor has to be created, the person that created the fist ancestor automatically becomes the first ancestor who will have another ancestor and so on. That's you logic falling apart on you

First ancestor cannot exist in a case where you have already created the law of cause and effect

FatherOfJesus:
there can't be first ancestor according to your cause and effect logic. You no get brain?

Even the first ancestor has to be created, the person that created the fist ancestor automatically becomes the first ancestor who will have another ancestor and so on. That's you logic falling apart on you

First ancestor cannot exist in a case where you have already created the law of cause and effect

hmmm u said the person that created the first ancestor automatically become the first ancestor!


Hmmm so u believe something created something?

Edd Ed

compton11:
hmmm u said the person that created the first ancestor automatically become the first ancestor!


Hmmm so u believe something created something?

how can there be a first ancestor when everything must be created? Included your God.

It doesn't make sense.
No first creator of everything has to be created, you till don't get your won logic right.
It's an infinite regress

FatherOfJesus:
Edd Edhow can there be a first ancestor when everything must be created? Included your God.

It doesn't make sense.
No first creator of everything has to be created, you till don't get your won logic right.
It's an infinite regress

ok since u insisted.


Earth created itself

Water created itself


And human has no beginning

compton11:
ok since u insisted.


Earth created itself

Water created itself


And human has no beginning

Well, you get the gist. The universe created itself.
It took a while to grasp it but thank "God" you finally did

FatherOfJesus:
Well, you get the gist. The universe created itself.
It took a while to grasp it but thank "God" you finally did

just like the car I told u about earlier

compton11:
just like the car I told u about earlier

Yes, unless you want to tell us who created your god

FatherOfJesus:
Yes, unless you want to tell us who created your god

well since u believe the car stuff is possible then ain't got nothing to say!

FatherOfJesus:
losing what? Are we competing?

What a dumb question. It turns out that you really are a coward! It also shows that you don't want to learn anything.
You are talking like someonw who wants to travel to Uganda, but insists on getting there in a few seconds, since we can talk on phone with people there in seconds.
You are not on the pathway to education and learning, sorry to say. You are on the pathway to hell!

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Deldrax29:
What a dumb question. It turns out that you really are a coward! It also shows that you don't want to learn anything.
You are talking like someonw who wants to travel to Uganda, but insists on getting there in a few seconds, since we can talk on phone with people there in seconds.
You are not on the pathway to education and learning, sorry to say. You are on the pathway to hell!

[/s] dude, you are competing with your delusions, not me

All these insults because I innocently asked that you provide evidence for your imaginary friend, nawa oo. Cognitive dissonance

Son of the imaginary man in the sky

compton11:
well since u believe the car stuff is possible then ain't got nothing to say!

why are avoiding the part where you have to tell us who created your god?
That's hard right, hence you need to avoid it

FatherOfJesus:
why are avoiding the part where you have to tell us who created your god?
That's hard right, hence you need to avoid it

since Earth is created by no one according to u then why y concern about God being created?

compton11:
since Earth is created by no one according to u then why y concern about God being created?

I'm concerned about God because you want me to accept that god created earth.
Yes, earth created itself, that's constant. It was even thought in basic geography which you obviously didn't pay attention

FatherOfJesus:
I'm concerned about God because you want me to accept that god created earth.
Yes, earth created itself, that's constant. It was even thought in basic geography which you obviously didn't pay attention

and earth don't have beginning!

Ishilove:
Old enough to use the internet and understand complex logic on the impossibility of proving the existence of the Generator, Operator and Director.

Unrelated

Dtruthspeaker:
Encounter?
He Lives in my house.

2). Your story is either a Lie or your oil is witchcraft oil.

God does not do this kind of Show off!

You don't know God!

If He lives in your house, then, why doubt His existent?

I think you've added lives to your life, and it's a pity, you even think everyone lies like you do.

kkins25:
Are you a babe?
What's that by the way?

Financial assistance

compton11:
and earth don't have beginning!

and your God don't have a beginning

FatherOfJesus:
and your God don't have a beginning

and end!

compton11:
and end!

now it's clear that your argument is flawed.

FatherOfJesus:
now it's clear that your argument is flawed.

that is one of the power of the one that created sun, heaven and Earth including your first ancestor

compton11:
that is one of the power of the one that created sun, heaven and Earth including your first ancestor

I don't know, what is that power that created your god?

FatherOfJesus:
I don't know, what is that power that created your god?

so what u can't see doesn't exist right?

compton11:
so what u can't see doesn't exist right?

based on your logic, the invisible pink unicorn exist even if we can't see it