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Jodera:
Holding don hold Diego Costa, don hold Chelsea attack in our 4-2 win. Even most.ob was saying Holding should have Man Mark Kane. That's to tell you the confidence perhaps Arteta had in him. You don't need speed to disrupt a player movement. Being smartly aggressive and positioning would do that and even if he's beaten, Gabriel and Elneny was always there to mop up(watch the game to see it)

Holding wasn't just smart and that was my frustration



As for the dream. I swear, na to dey use am dey make money now oo.
This is the 3rd time it's happening and the correct score dey always shele.

E be like say na once a season e dey always happen

Abeg they drop correct score for your friend alabi
The guy never win shiit

Jodera:
But Cedric/Tomi can't Man Mark Son cos Son played CF. The only way that will happen is if we pack bus and that will mean Saka not crossing the halfway line (to keep an eye on sessegnon).

If you fault Arteta's plan for not parking the bus, then I might get where you're coming from. But if the plan is to play what happened yesterday (almost akin to Brighton), then I don't see what Tomi can do even if he plays RB.


As for Cedric, I can't even rate any player ystdy. After the red card, it just went downhill from there. Before that we were playing well even though Tottenham was more aggressive and hungrier.

Na Holding spoil everything I swear. Arsenal under Arteta can't win game under red card

Holding is too rugged..he is suitable for players like Lukaku and Diego Costa but against fast CFs, he do struggle

Jodera:
Holding don hold Diego Costa, don hold Chelsea attack in our 4-2 win. Even most.ob was saying Holding should have Man Mark Kane. That's to tell you the confidence perhaps Arteta had in him. You don't need speed to disrupt a player movement. Being smartly aggressive and positioning would do that and even if he's beaten, Gabriel and Elneny was always there to mop up(watch the game to see it)

Holding wasn't just smart and that was my frustration



As for the dream. I swear, na to dey use am dey make money now oo.
This is the 3rd time it's happening and the correct score dey always shele.

E be like say na once a season e dey always happen

abeg...dey drop the correct score here my brother..

Jodera:
I won't blame Arteta for that Tbh.
Holding was just mad!!

The task was simple to Holding — Man Mark Son. Seeing that Tottenham lack runners from Midfield to capitalise on an gap Son might have from dragging holding out of position especially since Tomi already had a hand on Kulu and Elneny and Xhaka was already on Kane anytime he drops deep, it was always a good idea.

But Holding did as if he was never smart to begin with, or maybe the tension of the Nld played its part. He just behaved madly and I was shocked.
From the first whistle, he started holding Son at any little opportunity he has. That's madness

You sure you know the dynamics of the two players wen you talk about? Holding to man-mark Son? Really? How? Where? You are asking Holding who lacks pace, barely has consecutive great games to man mark a tricky, pacy and technically gifted Son? That was all shades of wrong as far as selections go.

Holding had no business starting that game in my opinion when White was healthy. He struggled to keep up with Son and besides, you never ask your CB to man mark a player because it is very dangerous. You ask one of your midfielders to do the job of man-marking and that is part of where Arteta exposed his inexperience.

Once Conte saw Arteta’s decision to use one of his CBs, worsestill the weaker of the 2 to man-mark his skilled attacker, he pretty much asked that all balls go through Son because it was an easy matchup! You don’t do that. You don’t ask your CBs to man mark, everyone should know this. If your CBs must man-mark that means one of your full back has to invert or your DM falls into the open position because of the movement. Son was just moving Holding all around the pitch, brining him higher and higher up the pitch to chop fouls, remove him from his position, took him to areas he was uncomfortable with thus exposing his lack of speed while leaving Gabu exposed.

These are some of the reasons I don’t trust Arteta’s understanding of tactics. He continued with this rubbish despite being 2-0 down without making any adjustments.

Spy360:
Defending deep is parking bus na.

At least in that first half we were supposed to park bus. Let Saka and Martinelli play is FBs while the back four do cover up. We may change in the second by then the pressure from fans would have died out. Spurs fans were terrific to be honest.

As for our remaining games, we can win them all even though Spurs have the easier fixtures apart from Burnley who can get relegated if they lose to Spurs.

Well, at least I just hope the boys move on and move forward. We still have two important finals to win.

At least we've lost the match, let's us don't lose the war. That's what I'm looking forward to.
I won't allow ystdy game despair me

50d33q:
Abeg they drop correct score for your friend alabi
The guy never win shiit

mostob:
abeg...dey drop the correct score here my brother..

Lol... Once mostly once a season sha.
Make we see as e dey be from next season

mostob:
Holding is too rugged..he is suitable for players like Lukaku and Diego Costa but against fast CFs, he do struggle

True sha.

Na our two games now I just dey hope on

50d33q:
What happened in matches we attack
Be sincere

when we attack We win mostly, I agree. The only game we defended and won was against Chelsea and that was because of mostly Nketiah desire to pounce on loose balls and mistake.

Roland17:
You sure you know the dynamics of the two players wen you talk about? Holding to man-mark Son? Really? How? Where? You are asking Holding who lacks pace, barely has consecutive great games to man mark a tricky, pacy and technically gifted Son? That was all shades of wrong as far as selections go.

Holding had no business starting that game in my opinion when White was healthy. He struggled to keep up with Son and besides, you never ask your CB to man mark a player because it is very dangerous. You ask one of your midfielders to do the job of man-marking and that is part of where Arteta exposed his inexperience.

Once Conte saw Arteta’s decision to use one of his CBs, worsestill the weaker of the 2 to man-mark his skilled attacker, he pretty much asked that all balls go through Son because it was an easy matchup! You don’t do that. You don’t ask your CBs to man mark, everyone should know this. If your CBs must man-mark that means one of your full back has to invert or your DM falls into the open position because of the movement. Son was just moving Holding all around the pitch, brining him higher and higher up the pitch to chop fouls, remove him from his position, took him to areas he was uncomfortable with thus exposing his lack of speed while leaving Gabu exposed.

These are some of the reasons I don’t trust Arteta’s understanding of tactics. He continued with this rubbish despite being 2-0 down without making any adjustments.

Well, I agree with you about using a DM (maybe Elneny) to be all over Son instead of Holding. I think that's where the game was lost especially as Holding is more than rugged. The season is still salvageable tho.

Let's just hope they win their other 2 matches. Our next season really depends on this season tbh.

Roland17:
You sure you know the dynamics of the two players wen you talk about? Holding to man-mark Son? Really? How? Where? You are asking Holding who lacks pace, barely has consecutive great games to man mark a tricky, pacy and technically gifted Son? That was all shades of wrong as far as selections go.

Holding had no business starting that game in my opinion when White was healthy. He struggled to keep up with Son and besides, you never ask your CB to man mark a player because it is very dangerous. You ask one of your midfielders to do the job of man-marking and that is part of where Arteta exposed his inexperience.

Once Conte saw Arteta’s decision to use one of his CBs, worsestill the weaker of the 2 to man-mark his skilled attacker, he pretty much asked that all balls go through Son because it was an easy matchup! You don’t do that. You don’t ask your CBs to man mark, everyone should know this. If your CBs must man-mark that means one of your full back has to invert or your DM falls into the open position because of the movement. Son was just moving Holding all around the pitch, brining him higher and higher up the pitch to chop fouls, remove him from his position, took him to areas he was uncomfortable with thus exposing his lack of speed while leaving Gabu exposed.

These are some of the reasons I don’t trust Arteta’s understanding of tactics. He continued with this rubbish despite being 2-0 down without making any adjustments.

Absolutely. That's why I blame Arteta instead of Holding.

See how Paul Merson slap am

https://dailypost.ng/2022/05/13/epl-you-want-to-be-like-guardiola-paul-merson-slams-mikel-arteta-for-arsenal-defeat-to-tottenham/

Spy360:
The defensive line was high. Note where Holding tackled Son for both yellow cards. The first was near the centre line, the second was after a simple overhead pass just as the ball that caused the PK. I mentioned all these things

Nah I disagree. You cannot tell a high line from a set piece. The PK was from a set piece and Cedric fouled Son at the byline. Has nothing to do with a high line. The second goal was from a corner kick (Saka was fouled by the way) and after a flick, Harry Kane was at the back post to head it in. Nothing to do with high line as well. If you want to see a high line watch how Son got in behind Dias and Matip when Spurs played City and Liverpool. They had no single one v one chance against you guys because Arteta took that away from them. Their crucial goals came from a dodgy penalty and a corner kick.

Spy360:
Absolutely. That's why I blame Arteta instead of Holding.

See how Paul Merson slap am

https://dailypost.ng/2022/05/13/epl-you-want-to-be-like-guardiola-paul-merson-slams-mikel-arteta-for-arsenal-defeat-to-tottenham/

No be today I begin watch ball and interpret/ understand football tactics.

50d33q:
Don't mind them, at this stage i won't be excited if we qualify
The manner we lost to the top 6 is very embarrassing to say the least we defended and lost like a coward
We were leading man utd until we started dropping back
liverpool home and away was an eye sore
Against city we attacked them scored, even guardiola never expected such coming from arsenal until ref decided to step in(this same useless paul tierney)
My conclusion we attacked city and almost got the result if not for ref, we attacked man utd and beat them well, we attacked chelsea and also beat them
Why should we defend deep is my problem when we can always take our chances with good attacking play
Even to defend we can't do it well

First it was we could get results 50-50 vs top 5, but no small team were brave to beat Arsenal.

Then slowly, expect no result vs top 5, and small teams became braver.


Gradually till now

Expect nothing except luck and small teams now beat Arsenal like championship side.

To recover this pride is not hard. Just that it brings impatient. This was was Emery was tryna do. It didn't end well.

Smh.

If we see ucl, barely any excitement will follow. Too bad


Then

Jodera:
Holding don hold Diego Costa, don hold Chelsea attack in our 4-2 win. Even most.ob was saying Holding should have Man Mark Kane. That's to tell you the confidence perhaps Arteta had in him. You don't need speed to disrupt a player movement. Being smartly aggressive and positioning would do that and even if he's beaten, Gabriel and Elneny was always there to mop up(watch the game to see it)

Holding wasn't just smart and that was my frustration



As for the dream. I swear, na to dey use am dey make money now oo.
This is the 3rd time it's happening and the correct score dey always shele.

E be like say na once a season e dey always happen

I disagree on the speed part.


You will need speed if you want to man mark Son or Salah. Or else they'll gbe e l'andicap.
Especially Son.

Arteta has proven in all redcard situations that he has no plan b. Especially when he tweaks things to cover the red. It only makes things worse.


I recall one time Mou was training inter guys to play with 9 players in anticipation of a red. That training paid off well.

I have this feeling that Spurs would drop point against Burnley. I just wish it happens.

Android22:
Nah I disagree. You cannot tell a high line from a set piece. The PK was from a set piece and Cedric fouled Son at the byline. Has nothing to do with a high line. The second goal was from a corner kick (Saka was fouled by the way) and after a flick, Harry Kane was at the back post to head it in. Nothing to do with high line as well. If you want to see a high line watch how Son got in behind Dias and Matip when Spurs played City and Liverpool. They had no single one v one chance against you guys because Arteta took that away from them. Their crucial goals came from a dodgy penalty and a corner kick.

I was referring to Holding's fouls not the goals

germaphobe:
I have this feeling that Spurs would drop point against Burnley. I just wish it happens.

Me too
But then will that help this clueless coach that can't read game to perform better
He can't change score line with tactics if we are losing

The Tottenham game is passed already, I'm never talking about it again. Shits happens but how we bounce back is what matters, great coaches do Bleep up sometimes too. If una want kill and slaughter Arteta here till next year, he did what he thought was right with the limited squad he had.
The fact that Saka is a among the epl player of the year shortlist can never be overemphasized, just check out the names and age of the other contenders and you will realize how far "relegated threatened" Arsenal has come this season.
Up next Newcastle.......

Double nomination for that matter

Player of the year
Young player of the year.

What we just Need is 6 points!!
If we get the 6points there's no how anybody will say Arteta didn't do a good job. I mean, we'll make top 4 for the first time in 5yrs then some people think we don't deserve it? You think it doesn't deserve for us to be excited?
The aim was to get top4 remember, not thinking about its effect next season on the team. When we reach that next season, we'll know how to cross it

Moreover, we should be thinking long term. For this team to improve in quality and standard we need UCL to do that. Imagine Vlahovic rejecting us cos one of the reasons is UCL and Gabriel Jesus is even thinking twice to join us cos he wants to see if we'll qualify first. How much more others of our choice which we can't even get cos of same reason. How will we improve if we'll always be getting 2nd rated players?

Lastly, if we win our 2 matches, we'll be getting 72 points. Even during Wenger time 72 points most times ensure top 4. Sometimes even less. If this doesn't denote progress over previous seasons, I don't know what is.
I just feel we should calm down and not allow emotions of the Nld loss not see the progress this team have made.


I just hope we win the last two matches. These boys deserves it for their work and sacrifice.

germaphobe:
The Tottenham game is passed already, I'm never talking about it again. Shits happens but how we bounce back is what matters, great coaches do Bleep up sometimes too. If una want kill and slaughter Arteta here till next year, he did what he thought was right with the limited squad he had.
The fact that Saka is a among the epl player of the year shortlist can never be overemphasized, just check out the names and age of the other contenders and you will realize how far "relegated threatened" Arsenal has come this season.
Up next Newcastle.......

Saka being there tells you the growth the guy had over the years plus the team itself

I'm so happy for him. It's a great feat to be nominated considering the pool of talents this season had
I just hope he wins the Young PFA even if Arnold is a great favourite to win it

I don't like this man but why is he not in manager of the season..
Only pep picked more motm award than him, he deserve a shot imo
Maybe because he doesn't have tactics and can't read games

50d33q:
I don't like this man but why is he not in manager of the season..
Only pep picked more motm award than him, he deserve a shot imo
Maybe because he doesn't have tactics and can't read games

True.
I don't know the reason why Vieira would be there. I think he's the odd one out cos I don't know the exceptional thing he did (result wise) aside improving their play. Even if Arteta ought not to be there, I think Graham potter or Moyes deserves a shot.

But if I were to vote, it'll be Eddie Howe. What he did with Newcastle from December till now is nothing short of a miracle

germaphobe:
I have this feeling that Spurs would drop point against Burnley. I just wish it happens.

I hope so too but I'm not banking on that.
This last two games will test the mentality of our players if they are ready to join the big boys or not.
We watch Comrade...we watch

Heard we are signing one Macquino from Sao Paulo... A 19 years old left footed winger...
Report says the signing doesn't affect Arsenal's transfer plans.

Jodera:
True.
I don't know the reason why Vieira would be there. I think he's the odd one out cos I don't know the exceptional thing he did (result wise) aside improving their play. Even if Arteta ought not to be there, I think Graham potter or Moyes deserves a shot.

But if I were to vote, it'll be Eddie Howe. What he did with Newcastle from December till now is nothing short of a miracle

Is rauf aregbesola there

50d33q:
Is rauf aregbesola there

Na Oasis we suppose ask

Jodera:


Na Oasis we suppose ask

Abeg CC Lana1 for the mail. I need him official response.

Roland17:
Abeg CC La.na1 for the mail. I need him official response.

Mgbo...

Cc: Lana1

50d33q:
I don't like this man but why is he not in manager of the season..
Only pep picked more motm award than him, he deserve a shot imo
Maybe because he doesn't have tactics and can't read games

The only coach with a pre assist this season for that matter. I'm surprised too

Chelsea bottled another FA cup final again

Liverpool sef fumbled. The match shouldn't have gone to extra time. Klopp suppose visit Emirate to collect manual.