| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by Kyase(m): 4:57pm On May 30, 2022 |
descarado:
There is no buhari this time around.
That's why apc have been having problem with who to represent them since few yrs ago.
With buhari in the picture, he did exceedingly well.
Now with a southerner, hmm.
There is a level to which inec can rig. Buhari will personally campaign for that person in NW and NE his strongest support base... The candidate can campaign alone in other region but in those two regions, buhari will be there. Mark this |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by OFFICIAL336: 4:59pm On May 30, 2022 |
excanny:
Yeah. Either SW or SS if he’s really serious to win the presidency.
He should stay away from the SE. Nothing there of benefits to a potential winner. Buhari won SW with 260k votes while Atiku won ONLY Anambra with 490k votes. Osinbanjo lost his PU, OBJ lost his state. Only fools will pick SW for VP. 5 Likes |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by 00FFT00(m): 5:05pm On May 30, 2022 |
MetaPhysical:
1. PDP Presidential aspirant Peter Obi attended the public announcement and supported Atiku to declare his Presidential ambition.
2. Just few days to PDP primary, aspirant Peter Obi stepped out of PDP Presidential primary and resigned membership.
3. Aspirant Atiku won PDP Presidential primary and was declared party flag bearer.
4. Peter Obi sent a congratulatory letter to Atiku.
5. Aspirant Obi crossed to Labor party. At its presidential primary another aspirant, Pat Utomi stepped down for Obi to win and become Labor party flag bearer.
Atiku has learnt from 2019 not to underestimate APC and its use of incumbent power to sweep opponents away. In particular, APC used cross-party alliance with SDP's Iyiola Omisore to edge Senator Adeleke out of gubernatorial victory in Osun.
SDP, Labor and APGA are strong in South.
Using strengths in Labor (his new party after PDP) and APGA (his old party before PDP), Obi can steer votes to Atiku and run him across the margins of victory should 2019 repeat itself.
Atiku is using one stone to kill two birds -
1. Dilute grass root politics in South so SDP does not become a formidable contender. Infact, SDP introduced Atiku to politics back in 1998.
He is using Obi to throw this kill. Hence Obi's actions lately.
2. Influence APC primary to nominate an underdog candidate.
APC Chairman, Abdullahi Adamu is from NE, same region with Atiku, and an ex-Chairman of PDP under Goodluck Jonathan, who is being wooed to cross from PDP into APC and enter primary race.
Now, Atiku must choose a Christian South for VP. He could end up calling Peter Obi to deputize for him, but he will not do so ahead of APC primary.
Net-Net, PDP is going for NE muslim/SE christian. I wonder how you sat yourself down and spewed the above nonsense. What makes you think Peter Obi is a man devoid of principle like most Nigeria politicians?: For your information, Mr. Obi was clearly offered the vice-presidential position before he resigned his membership in PDP. Shows how much you're clued in on happenings around the subject you seek to speak on. 3 Likes |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by Gandollaar(f): 5:09pm On May 30, 2022 |
Philipponzaghi:
Go and check the SW votes anytime a Yoruba man is on the ballot.
Check 1979 & 1983 —Awo got bloc vote
Check 1993 — Abiola got bloc vote
Check 1999 — Falae got bloc vote
Check 2003 — Obasanjo got bloc vote
SW will only give 55/45 when none of the top 2 candidates are Yorubas. Why are Nairaland parading political neophytes like this?
Which Kwakwanso in the North? Kwakwanso can only get Atiku voters votes and not the APC themselves.
Peter Obi winning SE massively for Labor party is a win for the APC. I hope you know your point only supported my arguments? The main goal is to water down the SE votes for PDP which is like now 90% reality.
As regards to IPOB boycott, check Anambra election turnout. Are you proud of that turnout? That was due to IPOb effect. If they churn out that turnout in presidential election then the SE votes will now be 3% instead of the earlier 5% Buhari claimed. I hope you won't be angry if Ipob turns a new leaf because of PO? 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by descarado: 5:09pm On May 30, 2022 |
Kyase:
Buhari will personally campaign for that person in NW and NE his strongest support base...
The candidate can campaign alone in other region but in those two regions, buhari will be there.
Mark this Buhari campaigning is not as campaigning for buhari. Bad governance and poverty coupled with insecurity has already cleared some people's eyes. Whenever people want change, there is nothing you can tell them they will believe. Already any apc candidate don't have a base to campaign on. We all know that. Buhari left no legacy anywhere. Even ruga was a failure. Just hoping on rigging. Let's say the truth Whether tinubu, amaechi or Jonathan, its all about rigging. Free and fair, apc is going nowhere cos people are fed up. Cross carpeting hasn't started yet. Lets see what will happen. 4 Likes |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by Gandollaar(f): 5:13pm On May 30, 2022 |
excanny:
Makes no sense for Atiku to choose a SE VP.
The SE is very weak politically.
If I were Atiku, I”ll choose a SS Igbo/Igboid to get all SS/SE votes. Even a VP from an Igbo-denying group like Ikwerres and Ikas will be seen by the Igbo voters as an Igbo vice presidency. Hehehe  |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by Gandollaar(f): 5:17pm On May 30, 2022 |
Igboid:
Not in 2022.
Igbos in SE will not accept any candidate that is not from SE.
You will be shocked how things have changed for most of us since 1999.
Amaechi or Wike will not get any vote in SE anymore than a Fulani or a Yoruba man would.
Infact because of Wike actions in Obiigbo and Ogbakor Ikwerre silence, there is a palpable Ikwerrephobia currently sweeping through SE.
Any party picking an Ikwerre candidate and hoping to gain SE votes have committed Political suicide.
Other than cash and carry politicians, the Igbo commoners have since moved on from the likes of Ikwerre and have even developed a palpable resentment for them.
PDP has already lost SE as it stands, but to pick an Igboid VP outside SE will be like a hammer to the last nail of PDP coffin in the SE. Thank you for doing what I was too lazy to do. My problem with yorubas on this platform is their thinking only them have sense in Nigeria. 1 Like |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by poiZon: 5:24pm On May 30, 2022 |
MetaPhysical:
1. PDP Presidential aspirant Peter Obi attended the public announcement and supported Atiku to declare his Presidential ambition.
2. Just few days to PDP primary, aspirant Peter Obi stepped out of PDP Presidential primary and resigned membership.
3. Aspirant Atiku won PDP Presidential primary and was declared party flag bearer.
4. Peter Obi sent a congratulatory letter to Atiku.
5. Aspirant Obi crossed to Labor party. At its presidential primary another aspirant, Pat Utomi stepped down for Obi to win and become Labor party flag bearer.
Atiku has learnt from 2019 not to underestimate APC and its use of incumbent power to sweep opponents away. In particular, APC used cross-party alliance with SDP's Iyiola Omisore to edge Senator Adeleke out of gubernatorial victory in Osun.
SDP, Labor and APGA are strong in South.
Using strengths in Labor (his new party after PDP) and APGA (his old party before PDP), Obi can steer votes to Atiku and run him across the margins of victory should 2019 repeat itself.
Atiku is using one stone to kill two birds -
1. Dilute grass root politics in South so SDP does not become a formidable contender. Infact, SDP introduced Atiku to politics back in 1998.
He is using Obi to throw this kill. Hence Obi's actions lately.
2. Influence APC primary to nominate an underdog candidate.
APC Chairman, Abdullahi Adamu is from NE, same region with Atiku, and an ex-Chairman of PDP under Goodluck Jonathan, who is being wooed to cross from PDP into APC and enter primary race.
Now, Atiku must choose a Christian South for VP. He could end up calling Peter Obi to deputize for him, but he will not do so ahead of APC primary.
Net-Net, PDP is going for NE muslim/SE christian. Abdulahi is from Nassarawa state which is in North Central.. All ur analysis is shitty 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by Gandollaar(f): 5:25pm On May 30, 2022 |
Kyase:
Buhari will personally campaign for that person in NW and NE his strongest support base...
The candidate can campaign alone in other region but in those two regions, buhari will be there.
Mark this Buhari is no longer as potent as he was with the takakawas. Agreed, northerners have herd mentality, but as at today, there are 15yr olds on the streets of Katsina who would pelt buhari with stones with just a little nudging from his fellow almajiris. The breakfast reached them satisfactorily. Is it insecurity or worsening poverty? They were served the best during these buhari's seven years. 2 Likes |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by Gandollaar(f): 5:26pm On May 30, 2022 |
OFFICIAL336:
Buhari won SW with 260k votes while Atiku won ONLY Anambra with 490k votes.
Osinbanjo lost his PU, OBJ lost his state.
Only fools will pick SW for VP. Brilliant mahn! Tell them. 1 Like |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by Cajal(m): 5:45pm On May 30, 2022 |
Philipponzaghi:
APC already did their screening and Jonathan is not there.
How can Atiku pick Obi as VP in another party, have you read the new electoral bill amendment?
I think Nairaland now parade kindergartens as political analysts. He doesn't understand politics 1 Like |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by Burruchaga71(m): 5:54pm On May 30, 2022 |
Igboid:
Not in 2022.
Igbos in SE will not accept any candidate that is not from SE.
You will be shocked how things have changed for most of us since 1999.
Amaechi or Wike will not get any vote in SE anymore than a Fulani or a Yoruba man would.
Infact because of Wike actions in Obiigbo and Ogbakor Ikwerre silence, there is a palpable Ikwerrephobia currently sweeping through SE.
Any party picking an Ikwerre candidate and hoping to gain SE votes have committed Political suicide.
Other than cash and carry politicians, the Igbo commoners have since moved on from the likes of Ikwerre and have even developed a palpable resentment for them.
Go to online platforms (Twitter and Facebook) and notice that majority of those happy with Wike loss are mostly Igbos.
Our relationship with Ikwerre people have deteriorated to a point of no return, Wike and Amaechi can wear Isiagu and okpu mmee all they like and speak Igbo all they like, it will not change anything. Okpu mmee!!! This really cracked me up
PDP has already lost SE as it stands, but to pick an Igboid VP outside SE will be like a hammer to the last nail of PDP coffin in the SE. |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by Biafranodogwu55: 6:00pm On May 30, 2022 |
How can atiku pick another presidential candidate as vp 
Lubbish post from a senseress OP |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by Kingnelson9: 6:13pm On May 30, 2022 |
The era of PDP is over.
We should be talking about LP and APC because we need to get Peter Obi into Power
This is the time for the real change Nigerians ever wanted and it can be achieved with Peter Obi , no sentiments. 3 Likes |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by MetaPhysical: 6:34pm On May 30, 2022 |
Philipponzaghi:
The reason Obi was able to cross was because he did not contest in the party primaries. If he had contested and lost, he will not be able to be the presidential flagbearer of any party again according to the amended law.
You better read the amended electoral law to understand all these things.
Electoral laws in Nigeria mean nothing. It takes brute use of power to bend these laws. You see, when laws are violated there is a consequence to pay. This concept of "cause & effect" validates law and gives integrity. In Nigeria, when you violate law there are no consequences. Hence the law has 0 validation & integrity. The amended law you keep repeating are soon to be violated left & right. The reason it was amended to begin with is because politicians lost trust in the original one. This version will soon be obsolete also and give cause to a new amendment. So you should understand that application of law in Nigeria is very fluid, don't stress the form....but do follow the intrigues. I follow intrigues at play, I dont care about the law because politicians themselves lack trust in it. 2 Likes |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by MetaPhysical: 6:35pm On May 30, 2022 |
Biafranodogwu55:
How can atiku pick another presidential candidate as vp
Lubbish post from a senseress OP  my brothers in South are too naive. |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by naijaguy1234(m): 6:38pm On May 30, 2022 |
OP is on drugs , jargons |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by Nobody: 6:46pm On May 30, 2022 |
MetaPhysical:
1. PDP Presidential aspirant Peter Obi attended the public announcement and supported Atiku to declare his Presidential ambition.
2. Just few days to PDP primary, aspirant Peter Obi stepped out of PDP Presidential primary and resigned membership.
3. Aspirant Atiku won PDP Presidential primary and was declared party flag bearer.
4. Peter Obi sent a congratulatory letter to Atiku.
5. Aspirant Obi crossed to Labor party. At its presidential primary another aspirant, Pat Utomi stepped down for Obi to win and become Labor party flag bearer.
Atiku has learnt from 2019 not to underestimate APC and its use of incumbent power to sweep opponents away. In particular, APC used cross-party alliance with SDP's Iyiola Omisore to edge Senator Adeleke out of gubernatorial victory in Osun.
SDP, Labor and APGA are strong in South.
Using strengths in Labor (his new party after PDP) and APGA (his old party before PDP), Obi can steer votes to Atiku and run him across the margins of victory should 2019 repeat itself.
Atiku is using one stone to kill two birds -
1. Dilute grass root politics in South so SDP does not become a formidable contender. Infact, SDP introduced Atiku to politics back in 1998.
He is using Obi to throw this kill. Hence Obi's actions lately.
2. Influence APC primary to nominate an underdog candidate.
APC Chairman, Abdullahi Adamu is from NE, same region with Atiku, and an ex-Chairman of PDP under Goodluck Jonathan, who is being wooed to cross from PDP into APC and enter primary race.
Now, Atiku must choose a Christian South for VP. He could end up calling Peter Obi to deputize for him, but he will not do so ahead of APC primary.
Net-Net, PDP is going for NE muslim/SE christian. Shit brain 1 Like |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by slivertongue: 6:51pm On May 30, 2022 |
Philipponzaghi:
APC already did their screening and Jonathan is not there.
How can Atiku pick Obi as VP in another party, have you read the new electoral bill amendment?
I think Nairaland now parade kindergartens as political analysts. Wallahi! He even missed it when he claimed Adamu is from NE instead NC. Adamu was governor not chairman. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by Kyase(m): 6:56pm On May 30, 2022 |
Gandollaar:
Buhari is no longer as potent as he was with the takakawas.
Agreed, northerners have herd mentality, but as at today, there are 15yr olds on the streets of Katsina who would pelt buhari with stones with just a little nudging from his fellow almajiris.
The breakfast reached them satisfactorily. Is it insecurity or worsening poverty? They were served the best during these buhari's seven years.
Forget what the media is feeding to you Buhari is still a god to them, and that's the fact Just go to kano or katisna and you will confirm this... 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by Kyase(m): 6:56pm On May 30, 2022 |
descarado:
Buhari campaigning is not as campaigning for buhari.
Bad governance and poverty coupled with insecurity has already cleared some people's eyes.
Whenever people want change, there is nothing you can tell them they will believe.
Already any apc candidate don't have a base to campaign on. We all know that. Buhari left no legacy anywhere. Even ruga was a failure.
Just hoping on rigging. Let's say the truth
Whether tinubu, amaechi or Jonathan, its all about rigging. Free and fair, apc is going nowhere cos people are fed up.
Cross carpeting hasn't started yet.
Lets see what will happen.
you don't know what you are saying |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by Ylink4sure: 7:01pm On May 30, 2022 |
Bro,well done! This is the most concise and accurate assessment of what Will happen. Choosing a SE V.P candidate (which he will) will not bring much political capital to Atiku. Philipponzaghi:
Peter Obi LP is a huge problem for Atiku and a very big plus for APC.
The SE votes will be very very low and a lot of factor will affect it.
—Some people will vote Peter Obi Labor party
—Some people will abscond from voting because there will be apathy
—Some people will vote for PDP because of the governors
—IPOB will declare sit at home and some won’t come out to vote. Only those that can be guaranteed security by the politicians.
In all, no matter how you read it, Atiku vote in the SE will be so so diluted to make any sensible difference.
Atiku will be a compound fool to select a SE VP. I will tip him to select a SS VP if he get political brain this time around.
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| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by Ylink4sure: 7:04pm On May 30, 2022 |
Thank you again for further clarifications for the emotionally driven and blinded political analysts Philipponzaghi:
Go and check the SW votes anytime a Yoruba man is on the ballot.
Check 1979 & 1983 —Awo got bloc vote
Check 1993 — Abiola got bloc vote
Check 1999 — Falae got bloc vote
Check 2003 — Obasanjo got bloc vote
SW will only give 55/45 when none of the top 2 candidates are Yorubas. Why are Nairaland parading political neophytes like this?
Which Kwakwanso in the North? Kwakwanso can only get Atiku voters votes and not the APC themselves.
Peter Obi winning SE massively for Labor party is a win for the APC. I hope you know your point only supported my arguments? The main goal is to water down the SE votes for PDP which is like now 90% reality.
As regards to IPOB boycott, check Anambra election turnout. Are you proud of that turnout? That was due to IPOb effect. If they churn out that turnout in presidential election then the SE votes will now be 3% instead of the earlier 5% Buhari claimed. 1 Like |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by Philipponzaghi: 7:07pm On May 30, 2022 |
Ylink4sure:
Bro,well done! This is the most concise and accurate assessment of what Will happen. Choosing a SE V.P candidate (which he will) will not bring much political capital to Atiku.
You are very correct. |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by Ylink4sure: 7:10pm On May 30, 2022 |
Your "We started politics before the SW" got me laughing out loud because we have never seen or experienced the results of that your long years of politicking! I mean, what has been the results? In the last 22 years of return to democracy,a Yoruba man was president for 8 years and another is about to spend 8 years as VP! So,maybe it's not about how long but how well! OFFICIAL336:
SW votes is not a threat to us.
We have the numbers to split SW votes. My polling unit is in Lagos and I'll vote for Peter Obi.
In my part of Lagos, we just elected an Eye Ndi Igbo to help us coordinate Igbos in the area.
The reason we are supporting Atiku and Kwankwanso is because they will piece Northern votes.
If Tinubu chooses a Christian VP, North East and North West will be shared by PDP and NNPP.
Tinubu can't get much votes in SS and SE.
If APC picks Northern candidate which SE APC is pushing for, South and NC will be open for Labour to take.
We calculated our moves before going to Labour party. We started playing politics before SW.
We are not inexperienced like our neighbors that think betraying their neighbor is political sophistication. 1 Like |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by IkeIgboNile(m): 7:12pm On May 30, 2022 |
JavaScript90
Obviously as a competent and fellow igbo i will vote for him. But do you think that he can scale through and win?
Do your part and leave the rest. |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by MMWandali: 7:19pm On May 30, 2022 |
Let the best candidate win at the general elections |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by silibaba: 8:19pm On May 30, 2022 |
Philipponzaghi:
APC already did their screening and Jonathan is not there.
How can Atiku pick Obi as VP in another party, have you read the new electoral bill amendment?
I think Nairaland now parade kindergartens as political analysts. 
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| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by patwilly(m): 8:25pm On May 30, 2022 |
Abdullahi Adamu is from the North Central, Nasarrawa State MetaPhysical:
1. PDP Presidential aspirant Peter Obi attended the public announcement and supported Atiku to declare his Presidential ambition.
2. Just few days to PDP primary, aspirant Peter Obi stepped out of PDP Presidential primary and resigned membership.
3. Aspirant Atiku won PDP Presidential primary and was declared party flag bearer.
4. Peter Obi sent a congratulatory letter to Atiku.
5. Aspirant Obi crossed to Labor party. At its presidential primary another aspirant, Pat Utomi stepped down for Obi to win and become Labor party flag bearer.
Atiku has learnt from 2019 not to underestimate APC and its use of incumbent power to sweep opponents away. In particular, APC used cross-party alliance with SDP's Iyiola Omisore to edge Senator Adeleke out of gubernatorial victory in Osun.
SDP, Labor and APGA are strong in South.
Using strengths in Labor (his new party after PDP) and APGA (his old party before PDP), Obi can steer votes to Atiku and run him across the margins of victory should 2019 repeat itself.
Atiku is using one stone to kill two birds -
1. Dilute grass root politics in South so SDP does not become a formidable contender. Infact, SDP introduced Atiku to politics back in 1998.
He is using Obi to throw this kill. Hence Obi's actions lately.
2. Influence APC primary to nominate an underdog candidate.
APC Chairman, Abdullahi Adamu is from NE, same region with Atiku, and an ex-Chairman of PDP under Goodluck Jonathan, who is being wooed to cross from PDP into APC and enter primary race.
Now, Atiku must choose a Christian South for VP. He could end up calling Peter Obi to deputize for him, but he will not do so ahead of APC primary.
Net-Net, PDP is going for NE muslim/SE christian. |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by descarado: 8:30pm On May 30, 2022 |
Kyase:
you don't know what you are saying OK. |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by Kutunban: 8:58pm On May 30, 2022 |
MetaPhysical:
APC Chairman, Abdullahi Adamu is from NE, same region with Atiku, and an ex-Chairman of PDP under Goodluck Jonathan, who is being wooed to cross from PDP into APC and enter primary race. APC chairman is from North Central, Nasarawa state. |
| Re: Abubakar Atiku & Peter Obi In A Political Plot. by Ayed44: 6:19am On May 31, 2022 |
Peter Obi is the most foolish Nigerian politician I have seen in the last twenty years. He would have been Atiku's running mate if he had remained in PDP. But he allowed some idiots on social media to over hype him and led him to join Labour party where he cannot even come fourth in the general election.
There would have been the possibility of him becoming the Vice president of Nigeria if Atiku wins, and who knows, he can even miraculously become the president from being VP.
Now he has joined labour party and after loosing the general election, he will run back to PDP and nobody will take him serious anymore. Obi is now permanently a political orphan. He has used his own hands to destroy his promising political career. |
