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kabe1:
There was news going the rounds that the Tanks were for South-Sudan. Thanks for clearing this up.

NTSA:
Maybe we should ask ourselves where would the S.Sudanese get the manpower to man and maintain 110 sophisticated equipment considering there had not been a training program for such?..at the time it's military was basically a militia plus . South Sudan didn't technically exist at the time since it wasn't independent.
110 tanks can support a huge number of infantry and since they aren't generally fast moving, where were the vehicles to ferry the infantry?

Fynline:
Any official confirmation to this news?

It appears the issue of protected mobility is now taken serious. We might soon have one of the largest MRAP inventory on the continent

kabe1:
There was news going the rounds that the Tanks were for South-Sudan. Thanks for clearing this up.

Stargate254:
They were meant for S.Sudan, Then the ship got hijacked by Somali Pirates back then, then the ships manifest was revealed to everyone by the pirates and it became an international incident...
With Kenya risking being exposed for breaking an amrs embargo that had been put in place by the US on Sudan , Kenya had to save face by pretending publicly that the tanks were meant for Kenya and not S.Sudan...
So long story short, The tanks got stuck with us or is it we got stuck with the tanks ?

The funny thing though is that the CIA knew that we were secretely facilitating the arming of SPLM (the CIA even participated in the training of SPLM on how to use these weapons) to enebale them defend themselves against khatoum govt in the fight for self rule but when it was exposed by pirates, the US threw Kenya under the bus, their state department was even considering sanctions against Kenya and Ukraine... But the US Congress investigation is what revealed the truth about US involvement, and in the end they had no choice but to develop selective amnesia and forget the whole thing.

Stargate254:
They were meant for S.Sudan, Then the ship got hijacked by Somali Pirates back then, then the ships manifest was revealed to everyone by the pirates and it became an international incident...
With Kenya risking being exposed for breaking an amrs embargo that had been put in place by the US on Sudan for supporting Bin Laden and Alqaeda , Kenya had to save face by pretending publicly that the tanks were meant for Kenya and not S.Sudan...
So long story short, The tanks got stuck with us or is it we got stuck with the tanks ?

The funny thing though is that the CIA knew that we were secretely facilitating the arming of SPLM (the CIA even participated in the training of SPLM on how to use these weapons) to enebale them defend themselves against khatoum govt in the fight for self rule but when it was exposed by pirates, the US threw Kenya under the bus, their state department was even considering sanctions against Kenya and Ukraine... But the US Congress investigation is what revealed the truth about US involvement, and in the end they had no choice but to develop selective amnesia and forget the whole thing.

NTSA:
Interesting I didn't know we /CIA secretly trained SPLM on how to "use them"

kabe1:
ACTIVITIES MARKING THE CONDUCT OF REGIONAL MARITIME EXERCISE AT SEA ON 31 MAY 22

Stargate254:
They were meant for S.Sudan, Then the ship got hijacked by Somali Pirates back then, then the ships manifest was revealed to everyone by the pirates and it became an international incident...
With Kenya risking being exposed for breaking an amrs embargo that had been put in place by the US on Sudan for supporting Bin Laden and Alqaeda , Kenya had to save face by pretending publicly that the tanks were meant for Kenya and not S.Sudan...
So long story short, The tanks got stuck with us or is it we got stuck with the tanks ?

The funny thing though is that the CIA knew that we were secretely facilitating the arming of SPLM (the CIA even participated in the training of SPLM on how to use these weapons) to enebale them defend themselves against khatoum govt in the fight for self rule but when it was exposed by pirates, the US threw Kenya under the bus, their state department was even considering sanctions against Kenya and Ukraine... But the US Congress investigation is what revealed the truth about US involvement, and in the end they had no choice but to develop selective amnesia and forget the whole thing.

kabe1:
There was news going the rounds that the Tanks were for South-Sudan. Thanks for clearing this up.

kabe1:
I knew there was a story like this.

How many Tanks in total, I read 33 units, any actual known figures?

NTSA:
The 33 were the last batch to be delivered totaling around 110.

kabe1:
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NTSA:
Queens jubilee

Fynline:
Any official confirmation to this news?

It appears the issue of protected mobility is now taken serious. We might soon have one of the largest MRAP inventory on the continent

kabe1:
Yes. Particular the FLIR camera quality on this Royal Navy Helo.

GreenandGold:
Buying is easy, maintenance is hard. I also noticed that you buy any MPRAP from anywhere and field it like that. I don't think you consider logistics support for these multiple vehicles during deployment, long term maintenance (spares, computer boxes, chips, sensors, etc) of these different types of vehicles.

QuietMynd:
I don't think that is the FLIR working,
Rather the live event was transmitted via a secured network link. Just like how drone broadcast live footage to the ground station, something like that

GreenandGold:
Buying is easy, maintenance is hard. I also noticed that you buy any MPRAP from anywhere and field it like that. I don't think you consider logistics support for these multiple vehicles during deployment, long term maintenance (spares, computer boxes, chips, sensors, etc) of these different types of vehicles.

LTGEN:
The S/Sudanese ( then govt in waiting) got a waiting and listening ear with different right wing influences in the US . It became a rallying cry and so became a baseless Muslim vs Christian thing.
Not that it matters KENYA has always bought her Tanks from the BRITS , so there was absolutely no reason ( it didn't make any sense ) logistics wise spare wise , training wise to start buying from IVAN.
bottom line
The T-72s were bought for the South- Sudanese because they were losing ground to the Sudanese due to the fact they had inferior armor or very little armor that could match.
RECENTLY
On Twitter there was a whole documentary on the Tank wars between the SUDAN and the S/Sudanese is it well done and well researched .

GreenandGold:
Buying is easy, maintenance is hard. I also noticed that you buy any MPRAP from anywhere and field it like that. I don't think you consider logistics support for these multiple vehicles during deployment, long term maintenance (spares, computer boxes, chips, sensors, etc) of these different types of vehicles.

Astertes:
Recently It's just dubai and china, Ezugwu and ARA are made in Nigeria.

GreenandGold:
Nigeria is making MRAPs already, there's no need to buy them from a foreign supplier who could one day not give you spare parts should they get pressured by the West, unless your military bosses and politicians are currently getting kickbacks from overseas companies.