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Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 1:35pm On Jun 08, 2022
You claim others marginalize you.

Umahi State has 51 delegates but he didn't win all 51 as he had about 30-40 something votes and his fellow Ebonyian, Ogbonnaya Onu has 1 vote

Imo state has about 80 delegates. Abia 51, Enugu 51. Anambra a little around 60-70.

This is over 200 votes yet the SE candidates altogether didn't have up to 50 votes.


Okorocha had no votes.



So where did the SE delegates' votes go to ?


But you cry you have never ruled this country ?

But can not galvanize yourselves to ensure all your delegates vote your region.


In SW, Bankole, Amosun, all resigned to support their fellow SW.


But no Igbo candidate resigned to support another through strategic agreement.



In PDP

Anyim had only his states delegates. Abia delegates voted Wike, Enugu state delegates voted Wike. Anambra and Imo delegates voted Atiku.


But you all cried powers must return South and it should even be South East


You would like to say SE candidates are not a threat so why waste votes on them instead of giving it to a more likely winner and sign pact.

No, you build on that loss, along the line other regions will aknowledge that strong man whom you all support and vote for him.

That was how Buhari was winning his northern states and losing elsewhere till help came.




I'm from Ebonyi state, but if i see anymore Igbo man claim marginalization on this platform, whereas the Igbo delegates do not support their regional candidates, I will remind the person of PDP and APC primary elections.

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 1:38pm On Jun 08, 2022
lalasticlala mynd44 pls front page let us start telling ourselves truth

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Cyberterror: 1:39pm On Jun 08, 2022
The biggest shocker will come during the general election. You will see Tinubu winning Igbo dominated markets in Lagos like Alaba, Ladipo etc. Igbos are more concerned with business than politics. Not good in politics.

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by kayfra: 1:40pm On Jun 08, 2022
Ebubu:
You claim others marginalize you.

Umahi State has 51 delegates but he didn't win all 51 as he had about 30-40 something votes and his fellow Ebonyian, Ogbonnaya Onu has 1 vote

Imo state has about 80 delegates. Abia 51, Enugu 51. Anambra a little around 60-70.

This is over 200 votes yet the SE candidates altogether didn't have up to 50 votes.


Okorocha had no votes.



So where did the SE delegates' votes go to ?


But you cry you have never ruled this country ?

But can not galvanize yourselves to ensure all your delegates vote your region.


In SW, Bankole, Amosun, all resigned to support their fellow SW.


But no Igbo candidate resigned to support another through strategic agreement.



In PDP

Anyim had only his states delegates. Abia delegates voted Wike, Enugu state delegates voted Wike. Anambra and Imo delegates voted Atiku.


But you all cried powers must return South and it should even be South East


You would like to say SE candidates are not a threat so why waste votes on them instead of giving it to a more likely winner and sign pact.

No, you build on that loss, along the line other regions will aknowledge that strong man whom you all support and vote for him.

That was how Buhari was winning his northern states and losing elsewhere till help came.




I'm from Ebonyi state, but if i see anymore Igbo man claim marginalization on this platform, whereas the Igbo delegates do not support their regional candidates, I will remind the person of PDP and APC primary elections.

You are a wise person

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Slynation(m): 1:41pm On Jun 08, 2022
That's the issue... Everybody is a don in Igbo land, nobody wants to settle for less, but in SW Jagaban is a kingmaker which you know, most of the People that stepped down for him are people he fixed in one position or the other, while others got miraculous alerts...!!

Dollars nobi anybody mates...!!

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by nedu666: 1:41pm On Jun 08, 2022
Ebubu:
You claim others marginalize you.

Umahi State has 51 delegates but he didn't win all 51 as he had about 30-40 something votes and his fellow Ebonyian, Ogbonnaya Onu has 1 vote

Imo state has about 80 delegates. Abia 51, Enugu 51. Anambra a little around 60-70.

This is over 200 votes yet the SE candidates altogether didn't have up to 50 votes.


Okorocha had no votes.



So where did the SE delegates' votes go to ?


But you cry you have never ruled this country ?

But can not galvanize yourselves to ensure all your delegates vote your region.


In SW, Bankole, Amosun, all resigned to support their fellow SW.


But no Igbo candidate resigned to support another through strategic agreement.



In PDP

Anyim had only his states delegates. Abia delegates voted Wike, Enugu state delegates voted Wike. Anambra and Imo delegates voted Atiku.


But you all cried powers must return South and it should even be South East


You would like to say SE candidates are not a threat so why waste votes on them instead of giving it to a more likely winner and sign pact.

No, you build on that loss, along the line other regions will aknowledge that strong man whom you all support and vote for him.

That was how Buhari was winning his northern states and losing elsewhere till help came.




I'm from Ebonyi state, but if i see anymore Igbo man claim marginalization on this platform, whereas the Igbo delegates do not support their regional candidates, I will personally attack that person.


U don't know wat transpired between delegates and the se candidates yet u want to blame the entire lgbo race. Ask ur self why will umahi who personally oversaw the election of candidates in his state be finding it difficult to get their votes. Unless u know wat transpired you are just speculating

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 1:44pm On Jun 08, 2022
kayfra:


You are a wise person
thank you

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Nyamuriflathead: 1:44pm On Jun 08, 2022
Ibos are like the builder's of the tower of babel that God put confusion in their midst
AWON okoros grin

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 1:46pm On Jun 08, 2022
nedu666:



U don't know wat transpired between delegates and the se candidates yet u want to blame the entire lgbo race. Ask ur self why will umahi who personally oversaw the election of candidates in his state be finding it difficult to get their votes. Unless u know wat transpired you are just speculating
whatever transpired, shy did he not come to media to lay it open ?

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Oshodipikin: 1:47pm On Jun 08, 2022
South East ought to be considered for President from both evil parties that we have in Nigeria but NO. They haven't played their card well. PDP Primary says it all. Only 14 delegate voted Pius Anyim, una own son from entire SE. What happens to the remaining delegate votes? Atiku/Fulani man don buy am. If Tinubu shows the tip of his dollars, una go still fall for am. The ones in APCheat saw their SW brothers stepping down for eachothers yesterday, about 8 aspirants from SE contested and lost. Kai! Dem swear for una, can't you harmonize like Tambuwa did for his Arewa brother. You can cry for injustice till eternity, nothing changes until you build bridges across the nation, foster sound unbreakable relationship with your neighbours (SS & SW) and have a formidable home fronts. Cry me a riveeerrrr... Politics of hatred for one party (forgetting that all party politics are the same) , abuse of whoever is not on same page with you, "if I no get am, make e scatter" won't fix your problem. Cry me a riveeerrrr.... Party politics no be container of shoes on high seas, no one tribe can contest the aspect trade with you guys but a mugu from any part of Nigeria can sink your container with a stroke of pen when it arrives Apapa. Common sense isn't common. Only Rochas plays politics devoid of hatred, yet una no like am. Tueh

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by DMerciful(m): 1:47pm On Jun 08, 2022
Tell yourselves the truth too. Igbo votes cannot give Igbos the presidency and others do not want to vote for Igbos unless its zoned to SE! Whats the point of missing Tinubu dollars just to prove a point?
Ebubu:
You claim others marginalize you.

Umahi State has 51 delegates but he didn't win all 51 as he had about 30-40 something votes and his fellow Ebonyian, Ogbonnaya Onu has 1 vote

Imo state has about 80 delegates. Abia 51, Enugu 51. Anambra a little around 60-70.

This is over 200 votes yet the SE candidates altogether didn't have up to 50 votes.


Okorocha had no votes.



So where did the SE delegates' votes go to ?


But you cry you have never ruled this country ?

But can not galvanize yourselves to ensure all your delegates vote your region.


In SW, Bankole, Amosun, all resigned to support their fellow SW.


But no Igbo candidate resigned to support another through strategic agreement.



In PDP

Anyim had only his states delegates. Abia delegates voted Wike, Enugu state delegates voted Wike. Anambra and Imo delegates voted Atiku.


But you all cried powers must return South and it should even be South East


You would like to say SE candidates are not a threat so why waste votes on them instead of giving it to a more likely winner and sign pact.

No, you build on that loss, along the line other regions will aknowledge that strong man whom you all support and vote for him.

That was how Buhari was winning his northern states and losing elsewhere till help came.




I'm from Ebonyi state, but if i see anymore Igbo man claim marginalization on this platform, whereas the Igbo delegates do not support their regional candidates, I will remind the person of PDP and APC primary elections.

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 1:48pm On Jun 08, 2022
Nyamuriflathead:
Ibos are like the builder's of the tower of babel that God put confusion in their midst
AWON okoros grin

Very ironic

They need to swallow their pride and play correct politics.


Watch them return to insulting other regions and shouting Biafra should Obi not win.

Forgetting they will be burning the bridge they will need 16years coming cos e sure me die Biafra can not be achieved.

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Vertraulichkeit: 1:48pm On Jun 08, 2022
You and your likes don't get it. Igbos don't play politics of tribalism like other tribes, especially the South Westerns do. And the Igbos request for power isn't based on tribalism but natural justice. The natural justice in this regard is expected to be granted by other zones before the primary election proper, which didn't happen, and that is why the aspirants from the zone did not get good or block votes from the delegates. There is no need to waste a vote that cannot guarantee a winning when it can be used to support a winner or someone with more potential of winning.

The earlier you all accept that the Igbos are politically victimized for obvious reasons the better.

And yes, power is given and not taken in a clime like Nigeria which is the reason why the Northerns in APC have given the Southerns the opportunity.

Before you say that Igbos are emotional, remember that no Igbo man has exhibited the kind of emotion BAT exhibited at Ogun State, and rightly so, when he felt he was being denied his right.

Until the majority of the Nigerian power brokers decide to cede power to the Igbos, they won't get it no matter how hard the politicians try. In summary, the inability of the Igbos to clinch federal power has nothing to do with them being ignorant about how to play good politics.

I, OUK, and everyone in our camp saw it all before the primary election proper, which is the reason we took the stand we took, and we have no regrets.

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by helinues: 1:48pm On Jun 08, 2022
Toh

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Jajasabali(m): 1:49pm On Jun 08, 2022
We want Peter Obi Sir
He is an Igbo man too

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Okoroawusa: 1:49pm On Jun 08, 2022
Ebubu:
You claim others marginalize you.

Umahi State has 51 delegates but he didn't win all 51 as he had about 30-40 something votes and his fellow Ebonyian, Ogbonnaya Onu has 1 vote

Imo state has about 80 delegates. Abia 51, Enugu 51. Anambra a little around 60-70.

This is over 200 votes yet the SE candidates altogether didn't have up to 50 votes.


Okorocha had no votes.



So where did the SE delegates' votes go to ?


But you cry you have never ruled this country ?

But can not galvanize yourselves to ensure all your delegates vote your region.


In SW, Bankole, Amosun, all resigned to support their fellow SW.


But no Igbo candidate resigned to support another through strategic agreement.



In PDP

Anyim had only his states delegates. Abia delegates voted Wike, Enugu state delegates voted Wike. Anambra and Imo delegates voted Atiku.


But you all cried powers must return South and it should even be South East


You would like to say SE candidates are not a threat so why waste votes on them instead of giving it to a more likely winner and sign pact.

No, you build on that loss, along the line other regions will aknowledge that strong man whom you all support and vote for him.

That was how Buhari was winning his northern states and losing elsewhere till help came.




I'm from Ebonyi state, but if i see anymore Igbo man claim marginalization on this platform, whereas the Igbo delegates do not support their regional candidates, I will remind the person of PDP and APC primary elections.
You will live long. I was just discussing what you said with a colleague just now.

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 1:50pm On Jun 08, 2022
DMerciful:
Tell yourselves the truth too. Igbo votes cannot give Igbos the presidency and others do not want to vote for Igbos unless its zoned to SE! Whats the point of missing Tinubu dollars just to prove a point?

Did you read my article well ?

I'm sure those voting Buhari in 2003 and 2007 if they used your logic, Buhari won't be the second runner up in those electoral cycles which qualified him to be considered candidate in 2014 APC primaries.

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 1:50pm On Jun 08, 2022
Okoroawusa:

You will live long. I was just discussing what you said with a colleague just now.
thank you

God bless you too

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Whiteangel1234: 1:50pm On Jun 08, 2022
Igbo Presidency can only be achieve in 2 ways

1-- By Consensus Arrangement ( Example in 1999 when it was given to Obasanjo )

2-- By Creating a Solid Revolutionary Party like LP and expand it slowly it will take years ( Ojukwu created APGA for that reason but since inception selfishness have not allow APGA expand beyond Anambra state , it manage to enter Imo state and Rochas Decmap with ApgA mandate to APC in 2014

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 1:51pm On Jun 08, 2022
Jajasabali:
We want Peter Obi Sir
He is an Igbo man too
i am talking about the Igbo politicians in the major parties. Why can't they unify to present one candidate and why are the delegates of their own states which they selected, keep voting people from other regions ?


Yet you should Nigeria is marginalizing you abi is it not your delegates that are marginalizing you ?

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Whiteangel1234: 1:53pm On Jun 08, 2022
The Nigeria state is position to make it impossible for an Igbo man to make any meaningful development on his own unless he kneel and get the consensus of other regions

We have lowest local government hence why we have lowest delegates in every primary election

We have lowest states hence in house of rep and Senate we are minority and cannot push for any meaningful legislative

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 1:54pm On Jun 08, 2022
Whiteangel1234:
Igbo Presidency can only be achieve in 2 ways

1-- By Consensus Arrangement ( Example in 1999 when it was given to Obasanjo )

2-- By Creating a Solid Revolutionary Party like LP and expand it slowly it will take years ( Ojukwu created APGA for that reason but since inception selfishness have not allow APGA expand beyond Anambra state , it manage to enter Imo state and Rochas Decmap with ApgA mandate to APC in 2014

In the absence of this, why can't the Igbo delegates vote Igbo politicians ?


Over 200 Igbo delegates and all the Igbo candidates put together didn't have up to 50 votes.

Why ?

In PDP, Anambra delegates together with Imo voted Atiku while Abia and Enugu voted Wike.

Why ? But you have candidates from your region contesting it.

Why?

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 1:54pm On Jun 08, 2022
Whiteangel1234:
The Nigeria state is position to make it impossible for an Igbo man to make any meaningful development on his own unless he kneel and get the consensus of other regions

We have lowest local government hence why we have lowest delegates in every primary election

We have lowest states hence in house of rep and Senate we are minority and cannot push for any meaningful legislative

Oga why are your delegates not voting you ?

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by DMerciful(m): 1:56pm On Jun 08, 2022
This is delegates election, not general elections. The dynamics are different!
Ebubu:


Did you read my article well ?

I'm sure those voting Buhari in 2003 and 2007 if they used your logic, Buhari won't be the second runner up in those electoral cycles which qualified him to be considered candidate in 2014 APC primaries.
Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Whiteangel1234: 1:58pm On Jun 08, 2022
Ebubu:


In the absence of this, why can't the Igbo delegates vote Igbo politicians ?


Over 200 Igbo delegates and all the Igbo candidates put together didn't have up to 50 votes.

Why ?

In PDP, Anambra delegates together with Imo voted Atiku while Abia and Enugu voted Wike.

Why ? But you have candidates from your region contesting it.

Why?

That will amount to waste of Votes , Igbo politicians in APC only chance was through Consensus to emerge but since it failed

They will need to split the votes between

Ahmad Lawan
Chibuike Amaechi
Yemi Osibanjo

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 1:58pm On Jun 08, 2022
Vertraulichkeit:
You and your likes don't get it. Igbos don't play politics of tribalism like other tribes, especially the South Westerns do. And the Igbos request for power isn't based on tribalism but natural justice. The natural justice in this regard is expected to be granted by other zones before the primary election proper, which didn't happen, and that is why the aspirants from the zone did not get good or block votes from the delegates. There is no need wasting vote that cannot guarantee a winning when it can be used to support a winner or someone with more potential of winning.

The earlier you all accept that the Igbos are politically victimize for obvious reason the better.

And yes, power is given not taken in a clime like Nigeria which the reason why the Northerns in APC have given the Southerns the opportunity.

Before you say that Igbos are emotional, remember that no Igbo man has exhibited the kind of emotion BAT exhibited at Ogun State, and rightly so, when he felt he was being denied his right.

Until the majority of the Nigerian power brokers decide to cede power to the Igbos, they won't get it no matter how hard the politicians try. In summary, the inability of the Igbos to clinch federal power has nothing to do with them being ignorant about how to play good politics.

So until Nigeria gives the Igbo consensus ticket, your delegates will keep voting other candidates en mass ?


Wow see thinking. SE no go rule till 3100 be that.

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Whiteangel1234: 2:00pm On Jun 08, 2022
You people talk politics as if Igbos are bunch of emotional Kids why should a delegate waste votes because you come from south East

It's over the moment consensus failed

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 2:00pm On Jun 08, 2022
Whiteangel1234:


That will amount to waste of Votes , Igbo politicians in APC only chance was through Consensus to emerge but since it failed

They will need to split the votes between

Ahmad Lawan
Chibuike Amaechi
Yemi Osibanjo

There is nothing such as waste of votes. Support your candidate and make a statement, if he loses, he can support the winner. It is spirit of sportmanship. Osinbajo did it and still congratulated Tinubu.


Besides if you keep doing this your way, you will NEVER have a strong candidate other regions will look up to.

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 2:01pm On Jun 08, 2022
Whiteangel1234:
You people talk politics as if Igbos are bunch of emotional Kids why should a delegate waste votes because you come from south East

It's over the moment consensus failed

why should the igbos waste votes ?

smh emotional politics.

this is why you'll never get presidency. emotional politics

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Whiteangel1234: 2:01pm On Jun 08, 2022
Ebubu:


So until Nigeria gives the Igbo consensus ticket, your delegates will keep voting other candidates en mass ?


Wow see thinking. SE no go rule till 3100 be that.

Yes �� south East will not rule for 100 years so be it , we have not rule for 60 years have we all die ?

Abegi you people can elect anybody as your candidate make we rest just try elect somebody wey fit give us good economic policy

Let me tell you no region can do it alone even the so called North

APC win cos the ally with South West

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 2:03pm On Jun 08, 2022
Whiteangel1234:


Yes �� south East will not rule for 100 years so be it , we have not rule for 60 years have we all die ?

Abegi you people can elect anybody as your candidate make we rest just try elect somebody we fit give us good economic policy

no if you have decided you are okay with other regions ruling while you don't rule, if you are fine with it no problem. Nobody will bat an eye.

Just don't come tomorrow shouting other regions don't vote you as if your own delegates vote for your own candidates.

charity begins at home

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