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Ebubu:
So until Nigeria gives the Igbo consensus ticket, your delegates will keep voting other candidates en mass ?


Wow see thinking. SE no go rule till 3100 be that.

What is the total of the delegate votes from the South East and compare it with that of other zones and tell me how everyone going tribal and voting along that line will guarantee an Igbo man a win. Elections are win and lost before the election proper. I won't even be surprised that someone like you have not contested ordinary kindred head election least of winning, yet you think you know better than some people who have won everything except the presidential election.

Vertraulichkeit:
What is the total of the delegate votes from the South East and compare it with that of other zones and tell me how everyone going tribal and voting along that line will guarantee an Igbo man a win. Elections are own before the election proper. I won't even be surprised that someone like you have not contested ordinary kindred head election least of winning, yet you think you know better than some people who have won everything except the presidential election.

support your own and lose honorably.

i thought you all loved yourselves ?

well as you have decided to be supporting other candidates during primaries. kukuma tell your politicians not to bother contesting.

Ebubu:
why should the igbos waste votes ?

smh emotional politics.

this is why you'll never get presidency. emotional politics

Oga I'm a Businessman since I was born to date Goverment have done nothing for me but take from me

I take care of my Light
I take care of my water bore holes
I feed my self

Why should I bow down or kneel for anybody or region for an illusional presidency

We will never bow down for any region in Nigeria and God is with us we shall continue to dominate

Power is 3 type

Economic Power
Spiritual powers
political powers

Ebubu:
support your own and lose honorably.

i thought you all loved yourselves ?

well as you have decided to be supporting other candidates during primaries. kukuma tell your politicians not to bother contesting.

You are obviously a little boy still eating mama thank you that knows next to nothing. Now run along with little boys and girls like you.

Whiteangel1234:
Oga I'm a Businessman since I was born to date Goverment have done nothing for me but take from me

I take care of my Light
I take care of my water bore holes
I feed my self

Why should I bow down or kneel for anybody or region for an illusional presidency

We will never bow down for any region in Nigeria and God is with us we shall continue to dominate

Power is 3 type

Economic Power
Spiritual powers
political powers

fine. let us all accept south east has been relegated in politics.

but never bother complaining about presidency. at least your own delegates don't want you to rule yet.

Vertraulichkeit:
You are obviously still a little boy still eating mama thank you that knows next to nothing. Now run along with little boys and girls like you.

you don't have a case and now deviating.

The Problem in this country Everybody think he can teach the almighty Igbos how to plan Politics because APC win election in 2015 everybody na over night Analysis

First restructure the system you gave igbos 285 delegates out of over 2300 delegates that is less than 1% of the total delegate ( 0.12% ) of APc delegates is from South East and you so how want us to win election without consensus ?

Ebubu:
fine. let us all accept south east has been relegated in politics.

but never bother complaining about presidency. at least your own delegates don't want you to rule yet.

APC have 2322 delegate out of which south East have 285 delegates that will be 12% of the total delegate

The North alone have combine 1254 delegates


That is 54% of the entire vote already , anybody the support will win

Whiteangel1234:
Igbo Presidency can only be achieve in 2 ways

1-- By Consensus Arrangement ( Example in 1999 when it was given to Obasanjo )

2-- By Creating a Solid Revolutionary Party like LP and expand it slowly it will take years ( Ojukwu created APGA for that reason but since inception selfishness have not allow APGA expand beyond Anambra state , it manage to enter Imo state and Rochas Decmap with ApgA mandate to APC in 2014

I stand to be corrected. In 1999, PDP never arrange any consensus candidate because they still slug it at the primary EXCEPT I am missing the meaning of consensus.
Thanks

Whiteangel1234:
APC have 2322 delegate out of which south East have 285 delegates that will be 12% of the total delegate

The North alone have combine 1254 delegates


That is 54% of the entire vote already , anybody the support will win

oga leave winning first and vote your candidate, he can stand on that regional strength to negotiate for power next round.

get sense

Whiteangel1234:
The Problem in this country Everybody think he can teach the almighty Igbos how to plan Politics because APC win election in 2015 everybody na over night Analysis

First restructure the system you gave igbos 285 delegates out of over 2300 delegates that is less than 1% of the total delegate ( 0.12% ) of APc delegates is from South East and you so how want us to win election without consensus ?

if you like give igbos 1000 delegates they will share it to other zones

DMerciful:
Tell yourselves the truth too. Igbo votes cannot give Igbos the presidency and others do not want to vote for Igbos unless its zoned to SE! Whats the point of missing Tinubu dollars just to prove a point?

you are saying nonsense all the vote ben ayade got is from cross river even though they know he won't win or what about the ibo woman aspirant that step down for tinubu instead of umahi? there is something called unity and harmony which you guys lack expecially your polithiefcial

Ebubu:
You claim others marginalize you.

Umahi State has 51 delegates but he didn't win all 51 as he had about 30-40 something votes and his fellow Ebonyian, Ogbonnaya Onu has 1 vote

Imo state has about 80 delegates. Abia 51, Enugu 51. Anambra a little around 60-70.

This is over 200 votes yet the SE candidates altogether didn't have up to 50 votes.


Okorocha had no votes.



So where did the SE delegates' votes go to ?


But you cry you have never ruled this country ?

But can not galvanize yourselves to ensure all your delegates vote your region.


In SW, Bankole, Amosun, all resigned to support their fellow SW.


But no Igbo candidate resigned to support another through strategic agreement.



In PDP

Anyim had only his states delegates. Abia delegates voted Wike, Enugu state delegates voted Wike. Anambra and Imo delegates voted Atiku.


But you all cried powers must return South and it should even be South East


You would like to say SE candidates are not a threat so why waste votes on them instead of giving it to a more likely winner and sign pact.

No, you build on that loss, along the line other regions will aknowledge that strong man whom you all support and vote for him.

That was how Buhari was winning his northern states and losing elsewhere till help came.




I'm from Ebonyi state, but if i see anymore Igbo man claim marginalization on this platform, whereas the Igbo delegates do not support their regional candidates, I will remind the person of PDP and APC primary elections.

Igbos do not vote incompetency, if you like be their papa. Just wait and see how many obi would get

Nakedtruths:
Igbos do not vote incompetency, if you like be their papa. Just wait and see how many obi would get

all noise

Igbos are not good at tribal politics

Billingslord:
you are saying nonsense all the vote ben ayade got is from cross river even though they know he won't win or what about the ibo woman aspirant that step down for tinubu instead of umahi? there is something called unity and harmony which you guys lack expecially your polithiefcial

To put it simply, Yorubas are a people that can put ego aside to follow. It is why the region has levels of leadership, direction, and long term planning. Yorubas are gifted in building SYSTEMS that rely on the whole. And put leadership and followership on equal pedestals for the advancement of the race.

The igbos in the other hand by and large have a “I am king and bow to no one” mentality. You can’t build a political structure with that mentality, much less a partnership with others. It’s the reason why they’ve never had a kingdom that reaches the likes of the other tribes in scale. Just look at how China runs their system. One leader, one party, efficient, effective, and dominant in comparison to others.

Ebubu:
You claim others marginalize you.

Umahi State has 51 delegates but he didn't win all 51 as he had about 30-40 something votes and his fellow Ebonyian, Ogbonnaya Onu has 1 vote

Imo state has about 80 delegates. Abia 51, Enugu 51. Anambra a little around 60-70.

This is over 200 votes yet the SE candidates altogether didn't have up to 50 votes.


Okorocha had no votes.



So where did the SE delegates' votes go to ?


But you cry you have never ruled this country ?

But can not galvanize yourselves to ensure all your delegates vote your region.


In SW, Bankole, Amosun, all resigned to support their fellow SW.


But no Igbo candidate resigned to support another through strategic agreement.



In PDP

Anyim had only his states delegates. Abia delegates voted Wike, Enugu state delegates voted Wike. Anambra and Imo delegates voted Atiku.


But you all cried powers must return South and it should even be South East


You would like to say SE candidates are not a threat so why waste votes on them instead of giving it to a more likely winner and sign pact.

No, you build on that loss, along the line other regions will aknowledge that strong man whom you all support and vote for him.

That was how Buhari was winning his northern states and losing elsewhere till help came.




I'm from Ebonyi state, but if i see anymore Igbo man claim marginalization on this platform, whereas the Igbo delegates do not support their regional candidates, I will remind the person of PDP and APC primary elections.

Abia delegates voted for Amaechi. I saw a clip of their leader, whispering Amaechi to them, when they were about to vote.

Whiteangel1234:
You people talk politics as if Igbos are bunch of emotional Kids why should a delegate waste votes because you come from south East

It's over the moment consensus failed

i think you guys said you are ready to waste your vote on peter obi even though he won't win.why are you now saying it will a waste of vote for ibo delegate to vote ibo aspirant?

Ebubu:
thank you

Did Ndigbo ask the SE delegates to go and collect dollars and vote for tinubu? Did Ndigbo ask Uju ohaneye-ego or whatever she calls herself to step down for anybody?

In APC anything is possible, we saw a picture the other day of Femi Kayode wearing 'ABIA state delegate' apron. Is he from Abia state?

How are we even sure the delegates from Imo are not northerners Uzodinma picked from Ama awusa cattle market in Obinze Imo state?

We learnt on Channels TV that some delegates could only write in Arabic and then get a party agent to interprete and transcribe the names. You don't even need a school certificate to be a delegate. The people who vote on behalf of nigerians ( who are PhDs, M.Sc, Doctors, Scientists, Profs, Engrs etc) as delegates do not need to be literate or lettered. E no shock you?

APC is 'the more you look, the less you see' party.
Anyway, congrats to President Atiku Abubakar for the next 4-8 years. May God keep us all alive to enjoy the drama next year. Insha Allah!

Ebubu:
Very ironic

They need to swallow their pride and play correct politics.


Watch them return to insulting other regions and shouting Biafra should Obi not win.

Forgetting they will be burning the bridge they will need 16years coming cos e sure me die Biafra can not be achieved.

So if Obi lose we will start shouting Biafra you head is empty

Ebubu:
if you like give igbos 1000 delegates they will share it to other zonelols

lol this one crack me o

Vertraulichkeit:
You and your likes don't get it. Igbos don't play politics of tribalism like other tribes, especially the South Westerns do. And the Igbos request for power isn't based on tribalism but natural justice. The natural justice in this regard is expected to be granted by other zones before the primary election proper, which didn't happen, and that is why the aspirants from the zone did not get good or block votes from the delegates. There is no need to waste a vote that cannot guarantee a winning when it can be used to support a winner or someone with more potential of winning.

The earlier you all accept that the Igbos are politically victimized for obvious reasons the better.

And yes, power is given and not taken in a clime like Nigeria which is the reason why the Northerns in APC have given the Southerns the opportunity.

Before you say that Igbos are emotional, remember that no Igbo man has exhibited the kind of emotion BAT exhibited at Ogun State, and rightly so, when he felt he was being denied his right.

Until the majority of the Nigerian power brokers decide to cede power to the Igbos, they won't get it no matter how hard the politicians try. In summary, the inability of the Igbos to clinch federal power has nothing to do with them being ignorant about how to play good politics.

I, OUK, and everyone in our camp saw it all before the primary election proper, which is the reason we took the stand we took, and we have no regrets.

You are right.

Many of them are delusional. They don't know how Nigeria politics operate.

Oga see let's tell ourselves the truth,the SE does not have the capacity and voting power to Win even if all the SE delegates vote for one person they still can't beat tinubu.
I still don't understand the logic of sticking to pdthief who are also criminals,when Umahi decamped some people expectially ndi ipob ndi iti nwuru anwu wanted to have his head,men it's Nija politics,you need to pally and paddy with the criminals and leading team to get anything, naija politics doesn't needs your Nwafo imbibed doctrine,it requires crossing over to the leading force and trying to make an impact to their agenda,even though it's obviously always a disastrous agenda.
If you are not going to do the right thing as an Igboman and vote for Peter Obi, decamp to Apc asap at least be greedy with sense na
I hope the lessons learnt will be useful for tomorrow.
I stand with Peter Obi.

Vertraulichkeit:
You and your likes don't get it. Igbos don't play politics of tribalism like other tribes, especially the South Westerns do. And the Igbos request for power isn't based on tribalism but natural justice. The natural justice in this regard is expected to be granted by other zones before the primary election proper, which didn't happen, and that is why the aspirants from the zone did not get good or block votes from the delegates. There is no need to waste a vote that cannot guarantee a winning when it can be used to support a winner or someone with more potential of winning.

The earlier you all accept that the Igbos are politically victimized for obvious reasons the better.

And yes, power is given and not taken in a clime like Nigeria which is the reason why the Northerns in APC have given the Southerns the opportunity.

Before you say that Igbos are emotional, remember that no Igbo man has exhibited the kind of emotion BAT exhibited at Ogun State, and rightly so, when he felt he was being denied his right.

Until the majority of the Nigerian power brokers decide to cede power to the Igbos, they won't get it no matter how hard the politicians try. In summary, the inability of the Igbos to clinch federal power has nothing to do with them being ignorant about how to play good politics.

I, OUK, and everyone in our camp saw it all before the primary election proper, which is the reason we took the stand we took, and we have no regrets.

I disagree with you. The delegates from SE should have come out to prove that the SE are ready to be president. They might not get it immediately but it would make other tribes realize that the S Easterners are not minority.

Ebubu:
fine. let us all accept south east has been relegated in politics.

but never bother complaining about presidency. at least your own delegates don't want you to rule yet.

It's not that the delegates don't want Igbo to rule,it's about voting power.
SE doesn't have the voting capacity and without help they would do very little,the delegates already understood there was no plans to offer Igboland any sort help.
I believe this time the politics in the SE will be different.
Even the SW can't even win without help if the North decides to chop SW eyes without help from the entire South and mb they stand no chance at all.
I stand with Peter Obi.

Ebubu:
You claim others marginalize you.

Umahi State has 51 delegates but he didn't win all 51 as he had about 30-40 something votes and his fellow Ebonyian, Ogbonnaya Onu has 1 vote

Imo state has about 80 delegates. Abia 51, Enugu 51. Anambra a little around 60-70.

This is over 200 votes yet the SE candidates altogether didn't have up to 50 votes.


Okorocha had no votes.



So where did the SE delegates' votes go to ?


But you cry you have never ruled this country ?

But can not galvanize yourselves to ensure all your delegates vote your region.


In SW, Bankole, Amosun, all resigned to support their fellow SW.


But no Igbo candidate resigned to support another through strategic agreement.



In PDP

Anyim had only his states delegates. Abia delegates voted Wike, Enugu state delegates voted Wike. Anambra and Imo delegates voted Atiku.


But you all cried powers must return South and it should even be South East


You would like to say SE candidates are not a threat so why waste votes on them instead of giving it to a more likely winner and sign pact.

No, you build on that loss, along the line other regions will aknowledge that strong man whom you all support and vote for him.

That was how Buhari was winning his northern states and losing elsewhere till help came.




I'm from Ebonyi state, but if i see anymore Igbo man claim marginalization on this platform, whereas the Igbo delegates do not support their regional candidates, I will remind the person of PDP and APC primary elections.

Finally some sense from Congo Judea .

There is still hope after all

Slynation:
That's the issue... Everybody is a don in Igbo land, nobody wants to settle for less, but in SW Jagaban is a kingmaker which you know, most of the People that stepped down for him are people he fixed in one position or the other, while others got miraculous alerts...!!

Dollars nobi anybody mates...!!

It goes beyond their false self inflated ego.

The honest truth about the Igbo is that they are more comfortable being ruled than to rule.

Why?

Because the Igbo man is a tyrant .

The Igbos saw the tyranny of Ojukwu in their 3ys of Biafra and wanted not only Ojukwu out but to be free from another future Igbo tyrant . Hence the reason why they sabotaged their own war effort .

Just look at the kind of governors they have elected since 1999 and see how they behave like tin gods .

There is however a double tragedy about Igbo governance in that the Igbos are a very stubborn strong headed people who do not respond to reason but only brute force. It is for this reason that any Igbo governor must show his teeth or else they will take him as weak. It is prison politics they practice over in their yeast were only the most brutal can lead.

So since an Igbo rule can only be achieved over the same lawless igbos with an Igbo tyrant, the Igbo will rather have an outsider rule over him.

Nyamuriflathead:
Ibos are like the builder's of the tower of babel that God put confusion in their midst
AWON okoros

Guy keep quite this is not a thread for you

Omoslim26:
It's not that the delegates don't want Igbo to rule,it's about voting power.
SE doesn't have the voting capacity and without help they would do very little,the delegates already understood there was no plans to offer Igboland any sort help.
I believe this time the politics in the SE will be different.
Even the SW can't even win without help if the North decides to chop SW eyes without help from the entire South and mb they stand no chance at all.
I stand with Peter Obi.

Stop making excuses for your hustling delegates.

They went to Abuja to make money .

Simple.

Ebubu:
You claim others marginalize you.

Umahi State has 51 delegates but he didn't win all 51 as he had about 30-40 something votes and his fellow Ebonyian, Ogbonnaya Onu has 1 vote

Imo state has about 80 delegates. Abia 51, Enugu 51. Anambra a little around 60-70.

This is over 200 votes yet the SE candidates altogether didn't have up to 50 votes.


Okorocha had no votes.



So where did the SE delegates' votes go to ?


But you cry you have never ruled this country ?

But can not galvanize yourselves to ensure all your delegates vote your region.


In SW, Bankole, Amosun, all resigned to support their fellow SW.


But no Igbo candidate resigned to support another through strategic agreement.



In PDP

Anyim had only his states delegates. Abia delegates voted Wike, Enugu state delegates voted Wike. Anambra and Imo delegates voted Atiku.


But you all cried powers must return South and it should even be South East


You would like to say SE candidates are not a threat so why waste votes on them instead of giving it to a more likely winner and sign pact.

No, you build on that loss, along the line other regions will aknowledge that strong man whom you all support and vote for him.

That was how Buhari was winning his northern states and losing elsewhere till help came.




I'm from Ebonyi state, but if i see anymore Igbo man claim marginalization on this platform, whereas the Igbo delegates do not support their regional candidates, I will remind the person of PDP and APC primary elections.

This is an indication that Igbos don't play tribal politics like Yorubas.



Igbos follow competence.


Rochas is corrupt

Dave Umahi is mad defecting to APC at dieminute.


Ogbonnaya Onu was only banking on his long time relationship with Buhari.



If Nigerians had sense enough, Igbos should be their choice cos Igbos don't play tribal politics like Yoruba and Fulani.



An Igbo President will even benefit North and SW more than Southeast

Billingslord:
you are saying nonsense all the vote ben ayade got is from cross river even though they know he won't win or what about the ibo woman aspirant that step down for tinubu instead of umahi? there is something called unity and harmony which you guys lack expecially your polithiefcial

Oh, igbos are no longer tribal.. same you people will always say that igbos like supporting theirselves only and not others when it suits you but when it doesn't suit, you accuse Igbos of only supporting others and not theirselves.. rest Oga

Simeonjoe1:
Guy keep quite this is not a thread for you

They Zoned Senate Presidency to you guys in 1999 and continued this till 2007.

Can you tell me how many Senate Presidents we had from 1999 till 2003?

Your okoros were busy plotting to impeach each other to get the position that we ended up with 5 Igbo Senate presidents in 8ys. That is an average of 1.6 SPs per year.

Even if we say no elections, go and bring from among you one who will be president, a brutal civil war more devastating than the Biafran war, will breakup in Alaigbo republic.

The truth is the Igbo prefers to be ruled by others than to have one of then rule over them.

This is an attribute of a slave kingdom and attests why you never had kings because among slaves, all are equal.

Pity.