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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rany4all(m): 9:48pm On Jun 09, 2022
ngBuild:

Imagine if you there's power shortage and cctv is malfunctioning or not being monitored by the operator, how then do you sight unwanted visitors,

never forget, that arm robbers would not want to make noise while trying to gain entry, pointing a gun through a window with glass and bulglary proof won't be a smart way to gain entry.

Or are you suggesting that the gateman will always have access to the cctv control room if oga is not around. Think about it?
Intruders can gain entrance from other sides of the compound not in view from the windows of the security house na, so your logic doesn't really add up. Your security man will also not be looking out of his windows 247 and the windows cannot even offer a view all round the perimeter of the compound, so that is even worse than a down time for CCTV. If I'm not mistaken, I believe CCTV can be linked to more than one monitor, including smart phones, so I see no reason why the security house cannot have a monitor as well. And you can always back up your CCTV with alternative power, to reduce down time.

As for having his windows closed, well except he has A/C in there, I don't see how your security man can stay in there with the windows closed all the time, without any ventilation. I'm pretty sure most peeps without an A/C in their houses do keep their windows open most of the time and this is usually the case with most security houses. I know someone that was shot (assassinated) close up, through his window, while he was asleep.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ngBuild: 10:10pm On Jun 09, 2022
Rany4all:
Intruders can gain entrance from other sides of the compound not in view from the windows of the security house na, so your logic doesn't really add up. Your security man will also not be looking out of his windows 247 and the windows cannot even offer a view all round the perimeter of the compound, so that is even worse than a down time for CCTV. If I'm not mistaken, I believe CCTV can be linked to more than one monitor, including smart phones, so I see no reason why the security house cannot have a monitor as well. And you can always back up your CCTV with alternative power, to reduce down time.

As for having his windows closed, well except he has A/C in there, I don't see how your security man can stay in there with the windows closed all the time, without any ventilation. I'm pretty sure most peeps without an A/C in their houses do keep their windows open most of the time and this is usually the case with most security houses. I know someone that was shot (assassinated) close up, through his window, while he was asleep.
The focus is about the entrance where people usually walk through, in a setting the access road runs in front of the building and gate directly in front of the road.

Okay are you saying the security man will also have a monitor in his room, and inverter should power the cctv, i have never seen that! Aboki with cctv monitors. Tueh!

I understand what you are saying but that model works well, gateman don't have access to cctv control rooms, because it also monitors the gateman itself. Extending it will also giveout the fact that he is being monitored and he can also find blind spots to do anyhow.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GloriousGbola: 10:20pm On Jun 09, 2022
EgunMogaji2:
Not by force to build multi story.

https://www.nairaland.com/7169739/5-storey-building-collapses-ebonyi-photos

Na naija you dey sah. It is by force. Na so people dey drive mod kit 2010 - 2020 lexus by force.

This is how we do

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by tonididdy(m): 10:22pm On Jun 09, 2022
Rany4all:
Imagine a situation where your security man is woken from sleep and ordered to submit the gate keys at gun point through his window in the dead of the night... cheesy .

I think your perimeter fence has to provide some sort of security for your security man as well. If you need to monitor what goes on outside your perimeter fence, I believe It's best to do it with CCTV cameras and/or motion sensors, afterall no matter how you do your security house, your security man will still be "blind" on at least 2 other sides of your perimeter fence... cheesy

It has its pros and cons.
PERSONALLY I don't have security person employed in my home, it's useless.
I have dogs 2 and solar motion lights.
Should I hear peem, which I have never heard and will never hear.
My car key remote sleeps next to me, na to press my car alarm and the entire neighborhood will be awake!
Plus we have vigilante patrols so they will turn up too.

But should I need a security post, it will be attached to the fence and decked not roofed. That way I and the aboki will do a -point and kee call of duty session grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by tonididdy(m): 10:37pm On Jun 09, 2022
Quitam:
Good day my people,
Please would you recommend this wooden door as flush door for room and toilet. What are its disadvantages?

Thanks
don't even think of it.
I remember growing up with wooden doors in toilet and bathrooms.
The doors were decaying and in some cases it's best you had a shower in public because it was no different.
Let's not talk about the harmattan season... The doors never close. grin
Old school

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 10:49pm On Jun 09, 2022
tonididdy:
don't even think of it.
I remember growing up with wooden doors in toilet and bathrooms.
The doors were decaying and in some cases it's best you had a shower in public because it was no different.
Let's not talk about the harmattan season... The doors never close. grin
Old school
If it does not come in contact with water then its great,

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rany4all(m): 10:58pm On Jun 09, 2022
ngBuild:

The focus is about the entrance where people usually walk through, in a setting the access road runs in front of the building and gate directly in front of the road.

Okay are you saying the security man will also have a monitor in his room, and inverter should power the cctv, i have never seen that! Aboki with cctv monitors. Tueh!

I understand what you are saying but that model works well, gateman don't have access to cctv control rooms, because it also monitors the gateman itself. Extending it will also giveout the fact that he is being monitored and he can also find blind spots to do anyhow.


If your focus is just about the entrance, which shouldn't be IMO, then a see-through gate and fence rails should do the trick na, rather than making the security post a weak spot by attaching it to your fence.

Ask yourself this question...if you couldn't have a security post, would you feel more secure by attaching your house to your fence, just so you could have a view of your street? I don't think so.

If your security man can be gotten to easily, then your security is already compromised from the get go.

As for the private CCTV monitoring of your security man, while he also has access to CCTV feeds, I believe the CCTV experts can always come up with a solution. All you have to do sometimes is let them know exactly what you want.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rany4all(m): 11:14pm On Jun 09, 2022
tonididdy:

It has its pros and cons.
PERSONALLY I don't have security person employed in my home, it's useless.
I have dogs 2 and solar motion lights.
Should I hear peem, which I have never heard and will never hear.
My car key remote sleeps next to me, na to press my car alarm and the entire neighborhood will be awake!
Plus we have vigilante patrols so they will turn up too.

But should I need a security post, it will be attached to the fence and decked not roofed. That way I and the aboki will do a -point and kee call of duty session grin
Yeah, that's why we've said to each his own, but the point we're trying to make is that a security house attached to the fence does not necessarily offer better security than a stand alone security house. If the only benefit lies in giving the security man a view of the entrance/streets like peeps on here have suggested, then I believe this can be better achieved by installing see-through gates and fence rails instead of attaching the house to the fence.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rany4all(m): 11:22pm On Jun 09, 2022
erico2k2:

If it does not come in contact with water then its great,
The door will still shrink and twist as it dries up though, if the wood is not properly heat treated prior to production... cheesy
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Born2conquer: 11:35pm On Jun 09, 2022
What's the fastest way to get CofO and building permit in Ogun state?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 11:36pm On Jun 09, 2022
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Please I need ideas on how to go about getting approval for a building in Port-Harcourt, Obio Akpor LGA to be precise and that of Urban what I need is a rough idea of the cost implications. It's a 1 storey building of 4 flats 2 and 3 bedrooms

If it were me I would reach out to Oga Spyder880

Good luck on your project.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 11:42pm On Jun 09, 2022
Rany4all:
Intruders can gain entrance from other sides of the compound not in view from the windows of the security house na, so your logic doesn't really add up. Your security man will also not be looking out of his windows 247 and the windows cannot even offer a view all round the perimeter of the compound, so that is even worse than a down time for CCTV. If I'm not mistaken, I believe CCTV can be linked to more than one monitor, including smart phones, so I see no reason why the security house cannot have a monitor as well. And you can always back up your CCTV with alternative power, to reduce down time.

As for having his windows closed, well except he has A/C in there, I don't see how your security man can stay in there with the windows closed all the time, without any ventilation. I'm pretty sure most peeps without an A/C in their houses do keep their windows open most of the time and this is usually the case with most security houses. I know someone that was shot (assassinated) close up, through his window, while he was asleep.

This is why I specifically standardize on IP SecCams.

Each IP camera has an IP address. So it’s a really simple matter to assign what IP address any device can see. The SecGuard only needs to see the perimeter cameras in my setup,

Also a simple UPS will provide backup power.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 11:51pm On Jun 09, 2022
Rany4all:
The door will still shrink and twist as it dries up though, if the wood is not properly heat treated prior to production... cheesy
well mdf?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rany4all(m): 11:59pm On Jun 09, 2022
EgunMogaji2:


This is why I specifically standardize on IP SecCams.

Each IP camera has an IP address. So it’s a really simple matter to assign what IP address any device can see. The SecGuard only needs to see the perimeter cameras in my setup,

Also a simple UPS will provide backup power.
@ngBuild, I told you the experts can always come up with a solution, not so? ... Well, here it is cheesy

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rany4all(m): 12:13am On Jun 10, 2022
erico2k2:

well mdf?
Yeah mdf will not shrink, but is still susceptible to moisture and it doesn't have to come in direct contact with water too. The air in bathrooms and kitchens is usually more humid than in other parts of the house and this increased humidity can affect the door negatively over time, except you have some sort of air extractor installed.

This is the reason why many people prefer aluminum or PVC doors for their toilets/bathrooms...even those with shower cubicles that prevent direct contact with water.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 5:47am On Jun 10, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ngBuild: 7:30am On Jun 10, 2022
Rany4all:
Yeah, that's why we've said to each his own, but the point we're trying to make is that a security house attached to the fence does not necessarily offer better security than a stand alone security house. If the only benefit lies in giving the security man a view of the entrance/streets like peeps on here have suggested, then I believe this can be better achieved by installing see-through gates and fence rails instead of attaching the house to the fence.
it does not, but think about it this way, a thief getting in through the gateman's wall is the same as a theif getting through the fence wall, the wall is still the same thickness all round, if the thief breaks in through the wall, what makes you think he won't break through the other walls. Never forget the essence of this security measures is to alert the residents of a suspected attack.
Usually Windows are not installed on that bounding walls, a theif quietly pointing a gun through the window would not want to fire.
I personally don't like see through, while you protect your house against human invaders with see through railings, you leave your house vulnerable to snakes and other crawling animals.... No good to me.

Everything boils down to choice though. And if we take cost into view, a local man will not want to employ the use of cctv com cams and automated security measures.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 7:55am On Jun 10, 2022
EgunMogaji2:
Not by force to build multi story.

https://www.nairaland.com/7169739/5-storey-building-collapses-ebonyi-photos


To Everyone in the house. : Who Should be blamed for this unfortunate incidence!

The Owner. ? The Architect/Builder/Engineer?. Nigeria Building Regulators (Government Agency)?


Another of such Building in the same compound. Pic 1.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 8:17am On Jun 10, 2022
Rany4all:
@ngBuild, I told you the experts can always come up with a solution, not so? ... Well, here it is cheesy


You're on Point✓ cool

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Valuepaints20(m): 8:47am On Jun 10, 2022
ngBuild:

Nigeria which way, if apc wins again I wonder how much it will become.

May God help us.. lipsrsealed
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dangoteinlaw: 9:43am On Jun 10, 2022
Born2conquer:
What's the fastest way to get CofO and building permit in Ogun state?
start by having a registered copy survey. WhatsApp me for more information, ogun state has a more strict process than Lagos.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:45am On Jun 10, 2022
hamtabfawaz:


To Everyone in the house. : Who Should be blamed for this unfortunate incidence!

The Owner. ? The Architect/Builder/Engineer?. Nigeria Building Regulators (Government Agency)?

Another of such Building in the same compound. Pic 1.

The builder is 100% at fault.

He’s the professional who shouldn’t accept any less than standard practice. Regardless of how skinflint the owner is.

Regarding the government, we all know the score. We have very little oversight from them.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Born2conquer: 9:45am On Jun 10, 2022
dangoteinlaw:
start by having a registered copy survey. WhatsApp me for more information, ogun state has a more strict process than Lagos.
All surveys available
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dirkcoyt: 9:48am On Jun 10, 2022
To be honest entering a storey building dey fear me . My grandpa own a 20 rooms storey build with a decking typical ring road ibadan style and it’s still standing for 50 years counting now ! My grandpa was just a company mechanic with leventis then with just the usual standard 6 education . To be honest I don’t think he gave his building to any structural engineer or what not and that house still remains solid till now likewise all other build around that area . They were mostly handled by the baba latis. I have never had fear standing on what seems like the 3rd layer where the decking is where I can peep into palms mall and chill to have a view of cocoa house and liberty stadium but I must say I do be shit scared of stepping into the so called engineers that build modern storey buildings nowadays .

Now judging from these factors . I don’t want to believe the Baba latis know more than the trained certified engineers I just want to believe the difference between then and now are as follows;

1. Good quality of materials (when I hit the walls of my grandpa house and feel the sound I can tell the difference between the new ones and old ones , when I see the iron bars it’s more thicker and stronger than new ones)
2. These people never even did soil test etc yet it’s solid so what could we say ? Too much of education ruining it ? Or what ?
3. Experience is lacking in nowadays ?
4. Before you become a Baba lati then I think you will have served your boss so longtime before you start handling projects of your own but nowadays we rush to handle gigantic projects with less experience

I really don’t know why buildings are falling but we must look at what we did then that’s different now .

To think if you start from the very beginning of ring road ibadan to challenge, Oke ado , all you see are storey buildings all these old people built storey building like it’s nothing and it was all built by Baba latis . In modern times we struggle to even build bungalows and we claim we’ve arrived . And only for the few amongst us that can afford to build a storey building we still couldn’t build it properly only for it to fall. Naija which way now I’m tired !

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ngBuild: 9:59am On Jun 10, 2022
hamtabfawaz:



To Everyone in the house. : Who Should be blamed for this unfortunate incidence!

The Owner. ? The Architect/Builder/Engineer?. Nigeria Building Regulators (Government Agency)?


Another of such Building in the same compound. Pic 1.
everyone is to be blamed, but the Architect takes major portion of the blame, only if the structure of the building team made the architect the leader. but sadly, in this country they don't
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Cold141114(m): 10:27am On Jun 10, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ngBuild: 11:09am On Jun 10, 2022
Rany4all:
@ngBuild, I told you the experts can always come up with a solution, not so? ... Well, here it is cheesy
yes

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Enyinne(f): 3:34pm On Jun 10, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 4:59pm On Jun 10, 2022
Dirkcoyt:
To be honest entering a storey building dey fear me . My grandpa own a 20 rooms storey build with a decking typical ring road ibadan style and it’s still standing for 50 years counting now ! My grandpa was just a company mechanic with leventis then with just the usual standard 6 education . To be honest I don’t think he gave his building to any structural engineer or what not and that house still remains solid till now likewise all other build around that area . They were mostly handled by the baba latis. I have never had fear standing on what seems like the 3rd layer where the decking is where I can peep into palms mall and chill to have a view of cocoa house and liberty stadium but I must say I do be shit scared of stepping into the so called engineers that build modern storey buildings nowadays .

Now judging from these factors . I don’t want to believe the Baba latis know more than the trained certified engineers I just want to believe the difference between then and now are as follows;

1. Good quality of materials (when I hit the walls of my grandpa house and feel the sound I can tell the difference between the new ones and old ones , when I see the iron bars it’s more thicker and stronger than new ones)
2. These people never even did soil test etc yet it’s solid so what could we say ? Too much of education ruining it ? Or what ?
3. Experience is lacking in nowadays ?
4. Before you become a Baba lati then I think you will have served your boss so longtime before you start handling projects of your own but nowadays we rush to handle gigantic projects with less experience

I really don’t know why buildings are falling but we must look at what we did then that’s different now .

To think if you start from the very beginning of ring road ibadan to challenge, Oke ado , all you see are storey buildings all these old people built storey building like it’s nothing and it was all built by Baba latis . In modern times we struggle to even build bungalows and we claim we’ve arrived . And only for the few amongst us that can afford to build a storey building we still couldn’t build it properly only for it to fall. Naija which way now I’m tired !

U don't know why? "I really don’t know why buildings are falling but we must look at what we did then that’s different now ."
People are taking short cut in all areas
Materials

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