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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aduragbemi45(m): 7:25am On Jun 18, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rany4all(m): 7:46am On Jun 18, 2022
hamtabfawaz:


Does your brother have a security who monitors the office compound?

(If No): He should employ a Trusted security personnel, Who would Carry out duties Diligently & Effectively.

(CCTV cameras should be monitored from time to time)

Get a better Security Door.

CCTV camera should be hidden ( installed in such a way that it's not noticeable by thieves or anyone, except owners)

He should have at least, Three Deadly Security Dogs. (That patrol the office building from closing hour till dawn).

A security Alarm should be installed in the office building such that whenever there is a breach by third party, the sound is loud enough to call the attention of the neighbourhood to the scene.

Office compound should always have bright lights on all night through the next Morning.

Empower his security Personnel with the use of Drone for Surveillance.


This would be a heck of an expensive security set-up mehnn cheesy! The business must be doing extremely well to be able to afford such a set-up. A much cheaper and probably more realistic alternative would be to simply insure the business against such eventualities.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Imabong80(f): 8:32am On Jun 18, 2022
Please I am working on a small and simple security guard house.

Can I use wood as lintel over the window and fancy blocks?

If yes, please share a picture of similar use of wood as lintel if available.


PS: A coach of block will be placed on it.
Thank you.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hslbroker2(m): 9:00am On Jun 18, 2022
ImperialCovfefe:

Serious? What’s the length?
11ft
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rany4all(m): 9:05am On Jun 18, 2022
somehow:
My younger brother's media production studio was broken into a short while ago even though he installed CCTVs in specific areas, they wore face caps and sprayed the cameras.

They broke the fiber or is it copper door leading to his office which served as their entrance to the rest of the offices.

Came through the fence shared with a school, stole alot of stuffs (TVs, CPUs, Lens, Camera etc but left some in the next building (Too much to carry without being detected.)

They even stole flower vases grin

Why the long epistle?

Saw the copper door and got questions all over.

The door is said to be a security door but they broke and gained entrance through the locks.. How come?

I gave him some advices going forward but what extra security action should he take internally?

(He has entered agreement with some OPC guys in the area but I told him he needs to watch the watchers too).

How best can he secure his business?

A good business manager would take actions proactively to mitigate against losses that might be catastrophic to the business even before such losses occur.

Security is a given for any business to thrive, but one can only do so much in terms of providing good security because of cost. And potentially catastrophic loses can also occur even with the best security measures. Huge losses can come from theft, fire, building collapse, flood, etc.

A good security system may not be enough to mitigate against such losses, so a more pragmatic business manager would rather invest in insurance than more expensive security setups.

A business can easily fold up from certain types of losses, but with insurance it's always easier to bounce back.

PS: I'm not an insurance sales man ooo...just saying cheesy
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 11:14am On Jun 18, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 11:29am On Jun 18, 2022
Rany4all:
A good business manager would take actions proactively to mitigate against losses that might be catastrophic to the business even before such losses occur.

Security is a given for any business to thrive, but one can only do so much in terms of providing good security because of cost. And potentially catastrophic loses can also occur even with the best security measures. Huge losses can come from theft, fire, building collapse, flood, etc.

A good security system may not be enough to mitigate against such losses, so a more pragmatic business manager would rather invest in insurance than more expensive security setups.

A business can easily fold up from certain types of losses, but with insurance it's always easier to bounce back.

PS: I'm not an insurance sales man ooo...just saying cheesy

In a nutshell, another way to secure your business is via insurance.

Thanks sir, didn't ask if he's got that.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 11:31am On Jun 18, 2022
hamtabfawaz:


Does your brother have a security who monitors the office compound?

(If No): He should employ a Trusted security personnel, Who would Carry out duties Diligently & Effectively.

(CCTV cameras should be monitored from time to time)

Get a better Security Door.

CCTV camera should be hidden ( installed in such a way that it's not noticeable by thieves or anyone, except owners)

He should have at least, Three Deadly Security Dogs. (That patrol the office building from closing hour till dawn).

A security Alarm should be installed in the office building such that whenever there is a breach by third party, the sound is loud enough to call the attention of the neighbourhood to the scene.

Office compound should always have bright lights on all night through the next Morning.

Empower his security Personnel with the use of Drone for Surveillance.


Thanks sir but Chai... MONEY!

All these should be enough to move the business to Ghana lol but I get you.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 11:33am On Jun 18, 2022
topsy23:


Let him install burglar alarm system couple with with access control . He still need the CCTV as well

Yes he has reinstalled the cctc but I think they need to go invisible as possible.

The burglar alarm should do alot.

Thanks sir.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 11:36am On Jun 18, 2022
rmx:


Nah my area be this smiley wink
Yes sir... opposite favor I guess
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 11:41am On Jun 18, 2022
awesomeJ:


I used about 80-90 tons (bought 100 tons and Ihad left over, also, there were times when they way bill showed around 21 tons for each 20 ton trip) to cast a 312 sqm slab at 6" thickness with more 50 columns and close to 60 connecting beams.

So I think 30 tons would run 180 sq.m for you at 4" thickness. Except you want to go beyond 4".

Also the 150 bags is too much in my opinion. 80-90 bags should sort it.


Thank you.. I have already done my roofing, its 4"thickness we are going to use.. I really appreciate your response.. Thank you so much

That means 30tons granite and sand with 75 bags of cement should be enough..
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by awesomeJ(m): 12:52pm On Jun 18, 2022
redgem:



Thank you.. I have already done my roofing, its 4"thickness we are going to use.. I really appreciate your response.. Thank you so much

That means 30tons granite and sand with 75 bags of cement should be enough..
should be.

you're much welcome

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 1:14pm On Jun 18, 2022
MrOkenwa:
Engineers, Builders and homeowners.
I need some advice here.
I’m concerned about the wide gap between the floor and doors installed at the front doors and in all the rooms.
It’s so wide that I have a feeling the tilers may not be able to close them all.
What could have Been the reason for this?
Pls how do you deal with that in construction?


This is one of the reasons I keep banging on about the need to do German floor. You apparently didn't do German floor and if done, it was done badly.

German floor not only prevent damp, but also serve as level for the whole house. With German floor, you get a consistently level floor and a level height and you won't run into this kind of issues.

Regarding the right solution, lay one course of block or caste a row of concrete. Casting a row of concrete is a better option. So you need to chase a row about 4 inches deep and 6 inches wide and caste upward to the level of the door. This is for security reasons and against water seepage.

Homeowners please do German floor. All homes need a German floor even if you are building in a desert or on top Aso rock. Do German floor. German floor is not an option. It is a must. Any foundation without a German floor cap-off na patch patch foundation.

To me personally, any home worth more than 5 million and without a German floor is a missed opportunity. Any engineer that sanctioned a built without German floor is a poor quality two bits engineer.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aforxzy(f): 1:43pm On Jun 18, 2022
It's either the caprenter did not transfer the right height of door around your walls while forming the llintel or your floor level is uneven. If it's the latter then the level difference should have been noticed while laying your blocks.

Anyways get a tiler to transfer the tile finshed level across the rooms and see the difference in the levels. Then make up the difference with concrete or mortar before laying the tiles.



MrOkenwa:
Engineers, Builders and homeowners.
I need some advice here.
I’m concerned about the wide gap between the floor and doors installed at the front doors and in all the rooms.
It’s so wide that I have a feeling the tilers may not be able to close them all.
What could have Been the reason for this?
Pls how do you deal with that in construction?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 2:23pm On Jun 18, 2022
Aforxzy:
It's either the caprenter did not transfer the right height of door around your walls while forming the llintel or your floor level is uneven. If it's the latter then the level difference should have been noticed while laying your blocks.

Anyways get a tiler to transfer the tile finshed level across the rooms and see the difference in the levels. Then make up the difference with concrete or mortar before laying the tiles.




Engr Aforzxy how is the bolded possible? In my opinion, this has nothing to do with the carpenter. This lies squarely on the engineer.

Lintel are introduced after about 9 courses of block for "standard design". Let me know if this is incorrect. So the carpenter take the level from the 9th course to construct the formwork for the lintel. With this the issue of so much floor clearance as with this situation should not arise. Or the doors are extra short.

Please feel free to correct my understanding.

If it is indeed the lintel level like you guessed, this is very worrying regarding the quality of the tradespeople handling the built.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MrOkenwa(m): 2:49pm On Jun 18, 2022
diordaves:


This is one of the reasons I keep banging on about the need to do German floor. You apparently didn't do German floor and if done, it was done badly.

German floor not only prevent damp, but also serve as level for the whole house. With German floor, you get a consistently level floor and a level height and you won't run into this kind of issues.

Regarding the right solution, lay one course of block or caste a row of concrete. Casting a row of concrete is a better option. So you need to chase a row about 4 inches deep and 6 inches wide and caste upward to the level of the door. This is for security reasons and against water seepage.

Homeowners please do German floor. All homes need a German floor even if you are building in a desert or on top Aso rock. Do German floor. German floor is not an option. It is a must. Any foundation without a German floor cap-off na patch patch foundation.

To me personally, any home worth more than 5 million and without a German floor is a missed opportunity. Any engineer that sanctioned a built without German floor is a poor quality two bits engineer.
Thank you for your response sir.
I actually did the German floor. I paid for 100 bags of cement budgeted for this particular German floor but I was not really comfortable with the thickness when I saw it. You can see the nylon used as DPM on the image shared.
The 9 coaches of blocks were laid on the German floor before lintel. So this gap is between the German floor and the door installed at the entrance.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 2:51pm On Jun 18, 2022
Aforxzy:
It's either the caprenter did not transfer the right height of door around your walls while forming the llintel or your floor level is uneven. If it's the latter then the level difference should have been noticed while laying your blocks.

Anyways get a tiler to transfer the tile finshed level across the rooms and see the difference in the levels. Then make up the difference with concrete or mortar before laying the tiles.



Madam Engineer, with your explanation ma. My concern is the extra cost of sand, cements and labor. We can't blame any one until we hear the full story from the owner on his decision from foundation stage. My opinion, the gap shouldn't by more then 2" for tiles in other not to waste owners money
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MrOkenwa(m): 2:57pm On Jun 18, 2022
Aforxzy:
It's either the caprenter did not transfer the right height of door around your walls while forming the llintel or your floor level is uneven. If it's the latter then the level difference should have been noticed while laying your blocks.

Anyways get a tiler to transfer the tile finshed level across the rooms and see the difference in the levels. Then make up the difference with concrete or mortar before laying the tiles.



Thank you madam. I’ll send the tiler to do this and revert.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aforxzy(f): 3:00pm On Jun 18, 2022
The Engr. of course should take the blame for poor supervision.

But here I was assuming the possible cause of the issue at hand.

I said it could be that the carpenter did not transfer the right door size / height which means the door installed might be smaller than the carpenter's opening just as you suggested.

Lintel level to me, is not about number of block courses even though most people work with this, but height of door. Your lintel level should be such that gives enough clearance for fixing of the doors without breaking the concrete or having to fill so much. This will be easier if the door height is known and worked with.
Pre fabricated doors come with their dimensions for a reason. Most people assume all doors are of the same height which is not always true infact most times we assume the door is 2.1m high.

This is just a possible cause of the issue...




diordaves:


Engr Aforzxy how is the bolded possible? In my opinion, this has nothing to do with the carpenter. This lies squarely on the engineer.

Lintel are introduced after about 9 courses of block for "standard design". Let me know if this is incorrect. So the carpenter take the level from the 9th course to construct the formwork for the lintel. With this the issue of so much floor clearance as with this situation should not arise. Or the [b]doors are extra short.
[/b]
Please feel free to correct my understanding.

If it is indeed the lintel level like you guessed, this is very worrying regarding the quality of the tradespeople handling the built.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rany4all(m): 3:01pm On Jun 18, 2022
diordaves:


Engr Aforzxy how is the bolded possible? In my opinion, this has nothing to do with the carpenter. This lies squarely on the engineer.

Lintel are introduced after about 9 courses of block for "standard design". Let me know if this is incorrect. So the carpenter take the level from the 9th course to construct the formwork for the lintel. With this the issue of so much floor clearance as with this situation should not arise. Or the doors are extra short.

Please feel free to correct my understanding.

If it is indeed the lintel level like you guessed, this is very worrying regarding the quality of the tradespeople handling the built.
I don't think it's from the carpenter either. From what the guy said, the clearance affected all the doors in the building, so it's either the lintel was done after 10 block courses rather than 9, or the mortar thickness between block courses were unusually high, or the block heights are usually high, or doors are unusually short, or German floor wasn't done or done poorly, or.... grin grin grin

Abeg let me come and be going joor before I talk the one wey pass me...
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by oduncojamaica(m): 3:15pm On Jun 18, 2022
MrOkenwa:

Thank you madam. I’ll send the tiler to do this and revert.

What is the length/height of your door in feet?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rany4all(m): 3:18pm On Jun 18, 2022
Aforxzy:
The Engr. of course should take the blame for poor supervision.

But here I was assuming the possible cause of the issue at hand.

I said it could be that the carpenter did not transfer the right door size / height which means the door installed might be smaller than the carpenter's opening just as you suggested.

Lintel level to me, is not about number of block courses even though most people work with this, but height of door. Your lintel level should be such that gives enough clearance for fixing of the doors without breaking the concrete or having to fill so much. This will be easier if the door height is known and worked with.
Pre fabricated doors come with their dimensions for a reason. Most people assume all doors are of the same height which is not always true infact most times we assume the door is 2.1m high.

This is just a possible cause of the issue...




@The bolded is all the more reason I'll opt for custom made doors mehnn.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MrOkenwa(m): 3:24pm On Jun 18, 2022
oduncojamaica:


What is the length/height of your door in feet?
7ft.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 3:27pm On Jun 18, 2022
somehow:

Thanks sir but Chai... MONEY!

All these should be enough to move the business to Ghana lol but I get you.


grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MrOkenwa(m): 3:28pm On Jun 18, 2022
Rany4all:
After how many blocks from DPC was your lintel done? Did you do German Floor (if you did, it does look deep enough)? This is one reason why I'll have to opt for custom made doors instead of ready made. You might need to add more concrete on the floor before tiling if you've already done German floor. Alternatively, your tilers may have to fill up that huge gap over the entire floor or just under the doors with mortar, in which case you might have to be lifting your legs to pass through doors.
9 blocks from dpc to lintel.
the doors are ready made.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rany4all(m): 3:38pm On Jun 18, 2022
MrOkenwa:

9 blocks from dpc to lintel.
the doors are ready made.
The cheapest way to correct it would be to simply lay a course of blocks under the doors, without having to fill up that huge gap all over the building with concrete or mortar, but this would mean y'all will have to do some leg lifting everytime you pass through doors.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 4:43pm On Jun 18, 2022
Rany4all:
A good business manager would take actions proactively to mitigate against losses that might be catastrophic to the business even before such losses occur.

Security is a given for any business to thrive, but one can only do so much in terms of providing good security because of cost. And potentially catastrophic loses can also occur even with the best security measures. Huge losses can come from theft, fire, building collapse, flood, etc.

A good security system may not be enough to mitigate against such losses, so a more pragmatic business manager would rather invest in insurance than more expensive security setups.

A business can easily fold up from certain types of losses, but with insurance it's always easier to bounce back.

PS: I'm not an insurance sales man ooo...just saying cheesy
Insurance would require you provide good security from a reputable company before they would insure your business
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rany4all(m): 5:48pm On Jun 18, 2022
sonnie10:

Insurance would require you provide good security from a reputable company before they would insure your business
Not necessarily Sir. Insurance has different levels and packages. Small or medium scale businesses, even with the most basic security measures like security doors and window burglary, can invest in insurance. Farmers also insure their farms without any heavy handed security measures. Even individuals can insure their properties like vehicles and homes without having to go over the top on security.

The payout, in case of eventual huge losses, may vary depending on the periodic insurance premiums paid by the business owner, but such payouts will often go a long way in ensuring the business remains afloat. For instance, one business manager may decide to take up insurance cover worth 5m, and his monthly premiums may be 5k per month, while another may decide to go for cover worth 10m, and his monthly premiums may be 10k per month...not exact figures though, but that's the general idea.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ngBuild: 5:54pm On Jun 18, 2022
MrOkenwa:

Thank you for your response sir.
I actually did the German floor. I paid for 100 bags of cement budgeted for this particular German floor but I was not really comfortable with the thickness when I saw it. You can see the nylon used as DPM on the image shared.
The 9 coaches of blocks were laid on the German floor before lintel. So this gap is between the German floor and the door installed at the entrance.
The door design is to be blamed here, Change the door or get a custom door design for that opening.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 6:40pm On Jun 18, 2022
ollykay619:


Abeg make una help me o

I haven’t done a setting out in a while. The last one I did was included in the foundation per block cost.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ngBuild: 7:02pm On Jun 18, 2022
ollykay619:
Good day house, please how much is a reasonable price to pay builder to help with the setting out of a twin 3 bedroom bungalow in ibadan.

Thanks sirs/ma

@EgunMogaji2
@kolashangone

Also if you are a builder in ibadan or can recommend someone to do the job.
100k is a fair offer, setting out is just mapping out the layout, since he is not doing the foundation, anything not above 100k is okay, he won't be hiring much labourers, just him and another person. So 100k is enough, get the required materials, hammer, peggings, levelling tool, builders square, ropes and nails, and you are good to go. Some dey charge 75k self

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