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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Roland17(m): 10:01pm On Jun 21, 2022
ObaIgwe1:
I am not a part of those who belittle TH14 o. To me he is a Legend. QED. I don't have the power or motivation to argue it too.

My take on Nketiah being given a chance to follow TH14 legendary footsteps is no way calling for Henry's disrespect. Even Nketiah call TH14 his idol.

Those who wanna belittle Igwe Henry can go on, but to me he remains Arsenal Best and our Legend.
Baba, your position is well understood and apologies if I misconstrued it earlier. However, you can see why I was firm about arguing otherwise because I have been down this street before and I know where these debates degenerate to..
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 10:01pm On Jun 21, 2022
Roland17:
You are not going to be the victim, the police, lawyer and judge of this matter.

Henry missed chances did not mean he flopped the finals. Show me a player rating that had Henry lower than 7 in that finals! The last time I checked "Beasting" the finals as propounded by you is achieving important stats like goals/ assists. Henry provided the assist that led to the goal. The missed opportunities were a product of his greatness and individual brilliance, even after hitting the post.

Henry was never a carry along during his time at Barcelona. Who was Barcelona's leading scorer in Henry's first season? The following season he scored 26 goals with 10 assists as a winger, a freaking winger with Eto playing CF. So please scrap that carry along tag because it has no place.

Henry left European Football at the age 30 to join the NY Red Bulls, guess who is 9th ALL TIME SCORER in the UCL in 2022? Do you think Henry would have climbed higher if he remained in European football? Absolutely yes. 14 years since he left European soccer, he is still ranked top 10 ALL TIME, ahead of the likes of Salah/ Aguero/Neymar/ Ibrahimovic, so scrap that thing.

I am glad you realize you are debating with a Les Bleus to the bone. Henry was 20 when he went to the 1998 WC, show me another younger player who played more than he did or had more impact that Henry did? Despite being young and coming off the bench he finished the tournament as France's highest goal scorer. Let me tell you that coach Aimet Jacquet built the strength of that French team on the midfield and defense and that is why the CF position was led by "Strikeback" Guivarc'h.

France's problem post 2000 is well documented and it was no shock that the team flopped in the 2002 WC. Just stop it already because R. Lemmere was one of the worst things to happen to us. 2006 WC, Henry had a dominant performance, scoring in the group stages and the only goal in the QF against Brazil, so stop it already.

With all said and done, he is still ranked NO 1 ALL TIME LEADING SCORER FOR FRANCE with 51 goals in 123 appearances.
in Top 10 UCL highest goalscorer yet they say he only shone in EPL.

Sometimes, I no know whether whether no be the same Henry wey we watch wey deal with Madrid, juventus, inter and co during his time here abi na another one. The way you'll hear he didn't shine in European nights, you'll think he has a paltry 2 goals in UCL nights. Using just 1 night to judge all his previous European nights na something I just couldn't wrap my hands on.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by raumdeuter: 10:04pm On Jun 21, 2022
Roland17:
Henry left European Football at the age 30 to join the NY Red Bulls, guess who is 9th ALL TIME SCORER in the UCL in 2022? Do you think Henry would have climbed higher if he remained in European football? Absolutely yes. 14 years since he left European soccer, he is still ranked top 10 ALL TIME, ahead of the likes of Salah/ Aguero/Neymar/ Ibrahimovic, so scrap that thing.
Henry played CL actively for 10yrs and has 50 goals thats an average of 5 goals a season

Of the top 10 CL top scorers, Henry has one of the lowest goal per game ratio
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 10:05pm On Jun 21, 2022
50d33q:
Kojo
Same height same as Robertson
you can check online bro
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by raumdeuter: 10:05pm On Jun 21, 2022
Jodera:
in Top 10 UCL highest goalscorer yet they say he only shone in EPL.

Sometimes, I no know whether whether no be the same Henry wey we watch wey deal with Madrid, juventus, inter and co during his time here abi na another one. The way you'll hear he didn't shine in European nights, you'll think he has a paltry 2 goals in UCL nights. Using just 1 night to judge all his previous European nights na something I just couldn't wrap my hands on.
Henry played CL actively for about 10yrs and has 50 goals thats an average of 5 goals a season

Of the top 10 CL top scorers, Henry has one of the lowest goal per game ratio
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 10:09pm On Jun 21, 2022
Roland17:
Na today you sabi Dayo? You no see convenient sliding grin

Me and Dayo don argue dis thing years ago.. Infact, I can tell you for free that he pretty much picked his 1st points from where him save.
grin grin grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 10:11pm On Jun 21, 2022
raumdeuter:
Henry played CL actively for about 10yrs and has 50 goals thats an average of 5 goals a season

Of the top 10 CL top scorers, Henry has one of the lowest goal per game ratio
How many goals per season averagely do top goal scorers score during his time. Esp if they didn't reach the last 4
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Roland17(m): 10:14pm On Jun 21, 2022
Jodera:
in Top 10 UCL highest goalscorer yet they say he only shone in EPL.

Sometimes, I no know whether whether no be the same Henry wey we watch wey deal with Madrid, juventus, inter and co during his time here abi na another one. The way you'll hear he didn't shine in European nights, you'll think he has a paltry 2 goals in UCL nights. Using just 1 night to judge all his previous European nights na something I just couldn't wrap my hands on.
One thing I have learned over the years in debating Dayo is that his positions are very much about convenient narratives and when you consider he is one hell of a smart man, u can see how he sells rock as gold to many grin He has succeeded in defining the metrics and the path debates must follow on topics he holds strong views about.

We are talking of someone who left European football in the year he turned 31 but is still ranked top 10 ahead of Neymar/Ibra/Salah and others who continued or are still at it 14 years later.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by 50d33q: 10:15pm On Jun 21, 2022
Jodera:
in Top 10 UCL highest goalscorer yet they say he only shone in EPL.

Sometimes, I no know whether whether no be the same Henry wey we watch wey deal with Madrid, juventus, inter and co during his time here abi na another one. The way you'll hear he didn't shine in European nights, you'll think he has a paltry 2 goals in UCL nights. Using just 1 night to judge all his previous European nights na something I just couldn't wrap my hands on.
Lmao so you wan use this metric but when haller was in top 5 scorer in UCL last season he's still not good enough grin grin
If na to turn amala I they too
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 10:16pm On Jun 21, 2022
raumdeuter:
https://www.nairaland.com/669609/fc-barcelona-fan-thread-mes/2109#54141435
Lol .. I see the way you selectively do things.
If Henry's team reaches final, you'll blame him for choking in the final. If Henry's team didn't reach final (or crash in group stage), you'll blame him for choking in group stage.

You're always forgetting to tell us all the exploits he did for making his team reach the finals abi did they magically appear there?

I believe you'll be one of those who will say benzema choked in this year's UCL competition if Madrid didn't win it.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by 50d33q: 10:16pm On Jun 21, 2022
Roland17:
One thing I have learned over the years in debating Dayo is that his positions are very much about convenient narratives and when you consider he is one hell of a smart man, u can see how he sells rock as gold to many grin He has succeeded in defining the metrics and the path debates must follow on topics he holds strong views about.

We are talking of someone who left European football in the year he turned 31 but is still ranked top 10 ahead of Neymar/Ibra/Salah and others who continued or are still at it 14 years later.
All these players are still playing and ibra is the only one likely not to meet th14 goals
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Roland17(m): 10:17pm On Jun 21, 2022
raumdeuter:
Henry played CL actively for 10yrs and has 50 goals thats an average of 5 goals a season

Of the top 10 CL top scorers, Henry has one of the lowest goal per game ratio
Now na goal ratio? grin grin grin grin

He left European soccer 14 years ago and is ranked 9th ahead of the likes of Neymar/ Salah/ Ibra/ Aguero....He is 1 behind Muller who is still playing for your Bayern..
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by raumdeuter: 10:19pm On Jun 21, 2022
Roland17:
One thing I have learned over the years in debating Dayo is that his positions are very much about convenient narratives and when you consider he is one hell of a smart man, u can see how he sells rock as gold to many grin He has succeeded in defining the metrics and the path debates must follow on topics he holds strong views about.

We are talking of someone who left European football in the year he turned 31 but is still ranked top 10 ahead of Neymar/Ibra/Salah and others who continued or are still at it 14 years later.
Neymar for example came to Europe as a 23yr old and he is 30yrs now. Salah played 8 seasons f CL football, Henry played 13 seasons of CL football to have 50 goals

Something tells me that if Salah and Neymar all lay 13 seasons of CL football they will have more than 50 goals
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by raumdeuter: 10:20pm On Jun 21, 2022
Roland17:
Now na goal ratio? grin grin grin grin

He left European soccer 14 years ago and is ranked 9th ahead of the likes of Neymar/ Salah/ Ibra/ Aguero....He is 1 behind Muller who is still playing for your Bayern..
Henry was playing CL football in 1998 when Salah Neymar and co were still in primary school. Henry played 13 seasons of CL football vs 8 for Salah and Neymar
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Roland17(m): 10:21pm On Jun 21, 2022
50d33q:
All these players are still playing and ibra is the only one likely not to meet th14 goals
I thought he is a local champion? Local champions don't rank top 10 all time in 2022

Records are meant to be broken and it speak to his greatness in European football.

He left Euro club football at 30, how many goals do you think he would have scored if he continued playing in Europe?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by raumdeuter: 10:21pm On Jun 21, 2022
Jodera:
Lol .. I see the way you selectively do things.
If Henry's team reaches final, you'll blame him for choking in the final. If Henry's team didn't reach final (or crash in group stage), you'll blame him for choking in group stage.

You're always forgetting to tell us all the exploits he did for making his team reach the finals abi did they magically appear there?

I believe you'll be one of those who will say benzema choked in this year's UCL competition if Madrid didn't win it.
Benzema will be said t choke the final if he missed two 1v1 chances in the final like Henry
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by raumdeuter: 10:23pm On Jun 21, 2022
Roland17:
I thought he is a local champion? Local champions don't rank top 10 all time in 2022

Records are meant to be broken and it speak to his greatness in European football.

He left Euro club football at 30, how many goals do you think he would have scored if he continued playing in Europe?
He was finished by then that was why he left Europe. He also retired from NT about the same time
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Roland17(m): 10:26pm On Jun 21, 2022
raumdeuter:
Henry was playing CL football in 1998 when Salah Neymar and co were still in primary school. Henry played 13 seasons of CL football vs 8 for Salah and Neymar
Isn't it hypocritical that you can remind us Henry was playing UCL in 1998 when he was 20, please tell us how old Salah was when he was flopping earlier in his career and appearing UCL for Chelsea? For free I will tell you Salah was 23!!!!

NEXT!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by raumdeuter: 10:30pm On Jun 21, 2022
Roland17:
Isn't it hypocritical that you can remind us Henry was playing UCL in 1998 when he was 20, please tell us how old Salah was when he was flopping earlier in his career and appearing UCL for Chelsea? For free I will tell you Salah was 23!!!!

NEXT!
You can only score in the CL if you play in it

Henry played 13 seasons of CL, Salah played 8. Henry as 50 goals Salah has 36
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Roland17(m): 10:37pm On Jun 21, 2022
raumdeuter:
You can only score in the CL if you play in it

Henry played 13 seasons of CL, Salah played 8. Henry as 50 goals Salah has 36
You can only play in it if you are good. Salah was 23 with Chelsea in the UCL and flopped, end of story!

Henry stopped playing European football 14 years ago and is still ahead of Neymar/Aguero/Ibra/Salah in 2022
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 10:46pm On Jun 21, 2022
Roland17:
One thing I have learned over the years in debating Dayo is that his positions are very much about convenient narratives and when you consider he is one hell of a smart man, u can see how he sells rock as gold to many grin He has succeeded in defining the metrics and the path debates must follow on topics he holds strong views about.

We are talking of someone who left European football in the year he turned 31 but is still ranked top 10 ahead of Neymar/Ibra/Salah and others who continued or are still at it 14 years later.
He's so good at it that people buys it easily. Now according to his metrics all you need to do is sleep your way through the group stage and knock out then wait for the finals to "beast it" grin

That's what matters. That's what great players like them Messi, Ronaldo, cryuff, Zidane et al are known for I believe cheesy
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 10:50pm On Jun 21, 2022
50d33q:
Lmao so you wan use this metric but when haller was in top 5 scorer in UCL last season he's still not good enough grin grin
If na to turn amala I they too
Luiz Adriano of shaktar donesk scored 9 goals in group stage around 2015 or so if I remember vividly, yet he isn't good enough.

My point: we no dey look one season wonders.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Roland17(m): 10:56pm On Jun 21, 2022
Jodera:
He's so good at it that people buys it easily. Now according to his metrics all you need to do is sleep your way through the group stage and knock out then wait for the finals to "beast it" grin

That's what matters. That's what great players like them Messi, Ronaldo, cryuff, Zidane et al are known for I believe cheesy
Yes oh! as long as you score and assist for finals, you are untouchable!

Henry achieved the same "beasting" metric with the perfect FK for the assist for our goal in that same final but since it is not a convenient narrative, we must redefine "Beasting".

You see how he dribbled from Henry being behind Zidane despite admitting Henry Dominated the competition. From there he danced to goal ratio, then playing 13 years since 1998 as a 20 year old.. No be today I begin debate Dayo. grin grin

I always say it, hate him or like him, Dayo is one hell of an intelligent guy and If you allow him, he would deceive you to believe his gospel and many will carry that gospel to go argue outside and dem go chop am.

Henry na local champion, we go drag am but he has all these records in UCL and for France.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by raumdeuter: 11:01pm On Jun 21, 2022
Roland17:
You can only play in it if you are good. Salah was 23 with Chelsea in the UCL and flopped, end of story!

Henry stopped playing European football 14 years ago and is still ahead of Neymar/Aguero/Ibra/Salah in 2022
That Chelsea flop was part of Salahs 8yr CL history. Henry that did not flop in 13yrs had a smaller goal/game ratio
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by raumdeuter: 11:02pm On Jun 21, 2022
Jodera:
He's so good at it that people buys it easily. Now according to his metrics all you need to do is sleep your way through the group stage and knock out then wait for the finals to "beast it" grin

That's what matters. That's what great players like them Messi, Ronaldo, cryuff, Zidane et al are known for I believe cheesy
Yes. Zidane was one of the best players in France 1998 and he missed 2 games due to red card but he stood up in the final and became a legend
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by raumdeuter: 11:03pm On Jun 21, 2022
Roland17:
Yes oh! as long as you score and assist for finals, you are untouchable!

Henry achieved the same "beasting" metric with the perfect FK for the assist for our goal in that same final but since it is not a convenient narrative, we must redefine "Beasting".

You see how he dribbled from Henry being behind Zidane despite admitting Henry Dominated the competition. From there he danced to goal ratio, then playing 13 years since 1998 as a 20 year old.. No be today I begin debate Dayo. grin grin

I always say it, hate him or like him, Dayo is one hell of an intelligent guy and If you allow him, he would deceive you to believe his gospel and many will carry that gospel to go argue outside and dem go chop am.

Henry na local champion, we go drag am but he has all these records in UCL and for France.
Everything Henry won outside of the EPL he was carried along to it

Carried to CL, Carried to world cup but if na EPL he be master
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 11:04pm On Jun 21, 2022
Dayo said Henry manages 5 goals per season in UCL.

Someone who will look at that would think it's a poor record forgetting that it's prime Messi and Ronaldo that made UCL goals high to another levels.

Between 2002/03 highest to 2008/09, highest goalscorer was 12, 8, 7, 9, 10, 8.

Now judge for yourself, if highest goalscorers then is putting such figures, how will someone who scored averagely 5-6 goals a season be a bad scorer?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by raumdeuter: 11:04pm On Jun 21, 2022
Jodera:
Dayo said Henry manages 5 goals per season in UCL.

Someone who will look at that would think it's a poor record forgetting that it's prime Messi and Ronaldo that made UCL goals high to another levels.

Between 2002/03 highest to 2008/09, highest goalscorer was 12, 8, 7, 9, 10, 8.

Now judge for yourself, if highest goalscorers then is putting such figures, how will someone who scored averagely 5-6 goals a season be a bad scorer?
Actually its less than 5 CL goals per season because Henry has 50 CL goals but played 13 seasons. Do the Maths
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Roland17(m): 11:15pm On Jun 21, 2022
raumdeuter:
Everything Henry won outside of the EPL he was carried along to it

Carried to CL, Carried to world cup but if na EPL he be master
The numbers/ stat tell a different story.

In the run to his 2009 UCL, as a winger in the demonic front 3 of Henry/ Eto/ Messi, Henry score 5 goals and finished 4th in the overall scorers log.

Only Messi scored more goals than Henry for Barcelona that season.

NEXT!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 11:17pm On Jun 21, 2022
Roland17:
Yes oh! as long as you score and assist for finals, you are untouchable!

Henry achieved the same "beasting" metric with the perfect FK for the assist for our goal in that same final but since it is not a convenient narrative, we must redefine "Beasting".

You see how he dribbled from Henry being behind Zidane despite admitting Henry Dominated the competition. From there he danced to goal ratio, then playing 13 years since 1998 as a 20 year old.. No be today I begin debate Dayo. grin grin

I always say it, hate him or like him, Dayo is one hell of an intelligent guy and If you allow him, he would deceive you to believe his gospel and many will carry that gospel to go argue outside and dem go chop am.

Henry na local champion, we go drag am but he has all these records in UCL and for France.
Lol.. I know Dayo, na why from experience I dey tackle am jejely. Boss dey very very intelligence sotey one fit even dey doubt himself


You see that bolded, na the Koko dayo slogan be that. Now Henry assists for the final doesn't matter, na the 1 on 1 wey him miss na im matter grin

Another amala turning
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by raumdeuter: 11:21pm On Jun 21, 2022
Roland17:
The numbers/ stat tell a different story.

In the run to his 2009 UCL, as a winger in the demonic front 3 of Henry/ Eto/ Messi, Henry score 5 goals and finished 4th in the overall scorers log.

Only Messi scored more goals than Henry for Barcelona.

NEXT!
He finished 4th in the overall scorers chart joint with like 6 other players abi

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 11:23pm On Jun 21, 2022
raumdeuter:
Actually its less than 5 CL goals per season because Henry has 50 CL goals but played 13 seasons. Do the Maths
in a competition where the highest goalscorer in season averages 8-9 goals during his time, he scoring averagely 4-5 goals per season is still great

There's a reason he is in top 10 highest goalscorer with up to 50goals when he just reached 2 UCL finals and barely makes the last 4.

There's a reason top Striker like crespo, shevchenko, Owen trezeguet, et al aren't above him despite probably playing more UCL games than him
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