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Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by Ttalk: 7:52pm On Jun 24, 2022
FatherOfJesus:
you don't know anything, you arguing blindly.

Obasanjo did not cease Lagos State allocation. obasanjo ceased Lagos State "local government" allocations because Tinubu was running proxy LCDAs

Na we know werin dey happen for Lagos
That's my post where I started clearly that Lagos state LG funds were seized by Obasanjo govt

Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by walefresh3(m): 7:54pm On Jun 24, 2022
FatherOfJesus:
Anybody who thinks Lagos is doing well is not being sincere. On what basis are you making that inference?

The fact that Lagos was capital city for more than 50years and has never surpassed the infrastructural feat it achieved since 1991 until date?

Or the fact that Lagos still doesn't have a standard waste management system, public water and transportational infrastructure?

Look, Lagos is not growing, I cannot see any substantial developmental progress since 1991, TBH. Only Fashola tried to make some progress happen.

People ask then why is everyone trooping to Lagos?
Why is Lagos the commercial capital?
The answer is simple, Nigeria's economy is hugely dependent on importation, which means that every business wants access to the sea. The fact that apapa and tincan seaports are the only functioning seaports in Nigeria means that Businessws will always choose Lagos to cut of cost of logistics.
Logistics is crazy in Nigeria, in my company, it's cost us more to transport our products from Apapa port to our warehouse in Ibeju-Lekki than transporting them from Taiwan to Apapa port. It's crazy, every business owner knows this. Imagine if our warehouse is in onitsha.
Open up other seaports in Warri, Calabar, onne and port Harcourt, you will see Lagos economy shrink, businesses will spread out other parts of the country.

All these is making it seem like Lagos is working but it's not. The amount Lagos government generate doesn't commensurate with the kind of infrastructure on ground. They are basking on the effect of business influx to create a charade that Lagos is working. A small city in South Africa that doesn't have as much money as lagos will beat Lagos infrastructural wise on every level.

Tinubu supporters should spare us the noise abeg.
Fertile State

A Youth: Sir, why're you supporting Tinubu? They said he has Lagos in his pockets. Peter Obi is the new Messiah...

Me: (smile, cut in) You were talking about your NYSC mobilisation earlier.

A Youth: Yes, sir, I'm expecting my call up letter, sir.

Me: Great! Let's talk about that, let's leave Tinubu and Obi to their fate.

A Youth: Yes, sir ...

Me: So, what did you say you want me to do?

A Youth: ... to help talk to your contact at NYSC to mobilize me to a fertile state.

Me: You're right on time, boy! I know just the person who can help us to process your mobilisation to Anambra Sta...

A Youth: Ah! Anambra? Ìlú àwon Íbò where dem dey stay at home every Monday? Is Anambra fertile for corpers?

Me: No doubt, boy! Peter Obi was a governor in Anambra and he has made the state 'fertile' for corpers�

A Youth: Emm..., Uncle, I... I'm not sure corpers can survive at Anambra o...

Me: Stop the joke joor! The same Anambra that new Messiah Obi governed is not fertile for corpers? You don't appear serious...

A Youth: Why not Lagos, sir?

Me: (feign shock) No 'sane' corper will want to get mobilised to Lagos that Tinubu has tucked into his pockets ���

A Youth: (dumbfounded)

Me: (walks away) Let me know when you've made up your mind about going to Anambra�

A Youth: God forbid!

(I looked back just in time to see the youth hitting his thumb and forefinger together over his head - ó tà'ka òsì dànù���).

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Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by FatherOfJesus(op): 7:58pm On Jun 24, 2022
Golan007:
It is easily a connurbation and lots of people live in one and end and work at the other.
no, the comparison is senseless.

It's like asking me how many roads connects Enugu to anambra state instead of asking me how many roads connects Abakpa in enugu to indepence layout.
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by Ttalk: 8:02pm On Jun 24, 2022
FatherOfJesus:
And after how many years since construction started, they still have not passed Iyana Iba. Lagos State government after Fashola na joke. Seriously
Right niw, federal government has even taken over the project under the trans-west African road peoject.
I would not go personal despite your jab that I know nothing. But you expose yourself with jaundiced information you put up here.

I have more records of governance than you can ever imagine. Right from 1999.

But let's leave it at thst
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by Golan007: 8:03pm On Jun 24, 2022
FatherOfJesus:
no, the comparison is senseless.

It's like asking me how many roads connects Enugu to anambra state instead of asking me how many roads connects Abakpa in enugu to indepence layout.
Don't you alao realise you are asking for something stupid?

There is a shore line and a Lagoon.

Where do you want another road to be constructed?
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by princeabdul(m): 8:07pm On Jun 24, 2022
Which of the states in South East has progressed?? That had all igbo people roaming about the Lagos lagoon bear footed?
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by Nazgul: 8:10pm On Jun 24, 2022
FatherOfJesus:
no where in Nigeria is developed, including including Lagos.

Have you tried travelling out of this country?
I was at Oshodi last week, then drove to luth via mushin/idi-araba during the heavy down pour, I almost wept coming out with a car when I could have just booked an Uber.

Mushin/idi-araba roads and most interconnecting roads across Lagos are hellish.

What you said is true, aside fashola's BRT innovation, there's nothing special about Lagos.

In the 90s there use to be running water from Lagos State water cooperation supplying water to all the household in the state, today if you don't have borehole where you live, be prepared to be buying water from mallams.

Are we forgetting traffic robberies, insecurity, high crime rate, thuggery... etc.

If not for the Port that opened the door to foreign companies, lagos would have be a Shadow of itself by now. Cos the tax it receives doesn't correspond with the development and security on ground.
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by FatherOfJesus(op): 8:17pm On Jun 24, 2022
Golan007:
Don't you alao realise you are asking for something stupid?

There is a shore line and a Lagoon.

Where do you want another road to be constructed?
There is an ill-functioning waterway transportation.
It's also senseless to compare places with proper city waterboard to Ajah
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by Ttalk: 8:18pm On Jun 24, 2022
Nazgul:
I was at Oshodi last week, then drove to luth via mushin/idi-araba during the heavy down pour, I almost wept coming out with a car when I could have just booked an Uber.

Mushin/idi-araba roads and most interconnecting roads across Lagos are hellish.

What you said is true, aside fashola's BRT innovation, there's nothing special about Lagos.

In the 90s there use to be running water from Lagos State water cooperation supplying water to all the household in the state, today if you don't have borehole where you live, be prepared to be buying water from mallams.

Are we forgetting traffic robberies, insecurity, high crime rate, thuggery... etc.

If not for the Port that opened the door to foreign companies, lagos would have be a Shadow of itself by now. Cos the tax it receives doesn't correspond with the development and security on ground.
All these can be traced to the influx of people from useless governors that have refused to develop their state, while their indigene residing in Lagos constituting nuisance with no value are making governance difficult for responsible citizens.
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by Golan007: 8:18pm On Jun 24, 2022
FatherOfJesus:
There an ill-functioning waterway transportation.
It's also senseless to compare places with proper city waterboard to Ajah
Demand and supply.

If people aren't demanding for ferries there shalt be none.
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by FatherOfJesus(op): 8:19pm On Jun 24, 2022
Golan007:
Don't you alao realise you are asking for something stupid?

There is a shore line and a Lagoon.

Where do you want another road to be constructed?
Can Ajah people even boast of potable water?
Senseless comparison
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by FatherOfJesus(op): 8:22pm On Jun 24, 2022
Golan007:
Demand and supply.

If people aren't demanding for ferries there shalt be none.
it's not demand and supplt, there's no supply available in the waterways.
If you try and use those their rickette ferries and it capside, you are on your own. Sometimes, life-jackets are not even available. There is no proper investment in Martime in that axis.

People will use them if they are safe and properly planned
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by Golan007: 8:30pm On Jun 24, 2022
FatherOfJesus:
Can Ajah people even boast of potable water?
Senseless comparison
Let's talk about you Anambra.

Is there potable water?
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by Nazgul: 8:33pm On Jun 24, 2022
Ttalk:
All these can be traced to the influx of people from useless governors that have refused to develop their state, while their indigene residing in Lagos constituting nuisance with no value are making governance difficult for responsible citizens.
The population of New York is almost 5 times that of lagos, yet you can't compare both in terms of development.

Manhattan alone houses more foreign diplomats and Nationals from various parts of the world than Lagos, yet their roads and infrastructure and world class.

Lagos problem has nothing to do with non indigenes, it's a case of excessive waste of the state's resources by the ruling cabal which I believe you know.
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by Ttalk: 8:42pm On Jun 24, 2022
Nazgul:
The population of New York is almost 5 times that of lagos, yet you can't compare both in terms of development.

Manhattan alone houses more foreign diplomats and Nationals from various parts of the world than Lagos, yet their roads and infrastructure and world class.

Lagos problem has nothing to do with non indigenes, it's a case of excessive waste of the state's resources by the ruling cabal which I believe you know.
It has everything to do with indigenes of useless states in Nigeria that forsake their barren land to seek greener pasture in Lagos. Remove them and Lagos would wear a new look
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by Golan007: 8:49pm On Jun 24, 2022
Nazgul:
I was at Oshodi last week, then drove to luth via mushin/idi-araba during the heavy down pour, I almost wept coming out with a car when I could have just booked an Uber.

Mushin/idi-araba roads and most interconnecting roads across Lagos are hellish.

What you said is true, aside fashola's TINUBU's BRT innovation, there's nothing special about Lagos.

In the 90s there use to be running water from Lagos State water cooperation supplying water to all the household in the state, today if you don't have borehole where you live, be prepared to be buying water from mallams.

Are we forgetting traffic robberies, insecurity, high crime rate, thuggery... etc.

If not for the Port that opened the door to foreign companies, lagos would have be a Shadow of itself by now. Cos the tax it receives doesn't correspond with the development and security on ground.
Fixed.
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by Golan007: 8:56pm On Jun 24, 2022
Nazgul:
The population of New York is almost 5 times that of lagos, yet you can't compare both in terms of development.

Manhattan alone houses more foreign diplomats and Nationals from various parts of the world than Lagos, yet their roads and infrastructure and world class.

Lagos problem has nothing to do with non indigenes, it's a case of excessive waste of the state's resources by the ruling cabal which I believe you know.
Population of New York state is 18 million.

Population of Lagos state is 15 million.

New york state land mass --> 141,200 sq km

Lagos state land mass --> 1,171 sq km.


GDP New York --> 1.9 trillion dollars.

GDP Lagos --> 143 Billion dollars.
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by FatherOfJesus(op): 8:56pm On Jun 24, 2022
Golan007:
Let's talk about you Anambra.

Is there potable water?
that's the point, no state is developed.
Make una stop all these una overhyping
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by IncredibleWrite: 8:56pm On Jun 24, 2022
FatherOfJesus:
where did I do that?
Is Lagos developed?
By what standard are you measuring development?
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by Golan007: 8:58pm On Jun 24, 2022
FatherOfJesus:
that's the point, no state is developed.
Make una stop all these una overhyping
But your Anambra is among the worst.
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by IncredibleWrite: 8:58pm On Jun 24, 2022
Factcheck0001:
so are u telling me increased igr is not a sign of progress?
Peter obi could not add just 1 naira to anambra igr for complete 8 years n below is what tinubu did during his regime
This shows you don't know what is development. You even justified the OP's possible it the more.

Has this increased progress in IGR led to a commensurate infrastructural development and other indices of development accrued to an alleged Megacity?

Abi make I write am for Yoruba?
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by FatherOfJesus(op): 9:25pm On Jun 24, 2022
Golan007:
But your Anambra is among the worst.
you can give create another thread and discuss this one
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by Golan007: 9:27pm On Jun 24, 2022
FatherOfJesus:
you can give create another thread and discuss this one
Why don't you want to talk abiut your state?
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by joyandfaith: 9:34pm On Jun 24, 2022
FatherOfJesus:
Anybody who thinks Lagos is doing well is not being sincere. On what basis are you making that inference?

The fact that Lagos was capital city for more than 50years and has never surpassed the infrastructural feat it achieved since 1991 until date?

Or the fact that Lagos still doesn't have a standard waste management system, public water and transportational infrastructure?

Look, Lagos is not growing, I cannot see any substantial developmental progress since 1991, TBH. Only Fashola tried to make some progress happen.

People ask then why is everyone trooping to Lagos?
Why is Lagos the commercial capital?
The answer is simple, Nigeria's economy is hugely dependent on importation, which means that every business wants access to the sea. The fact that apapa and tincan seaports are the only functioning seaports in Nigeria means that Businessws will always choose Lagos to cut of cost of logistics.
Logistics is crazy in Nigeria, in my company, it's cost us more to transport our products from Apapa port to our warehouse in Ibeju-Lekki than transporting them from Taiwan to Apapa port. It's crazy, every business owner knows this. Imagine if our warehouse is in onitsha.
Open up other seaports in Warri, Calabar, onne and port Harcourt, you will see Lagos economy shrink, businesses will spread out other parts of the country.

All these is making it seem like Lagos is working but it's not. The amount Lagos government generate doesn't commensurate with the kind of infrastructure on ground. They are basking on the effect of business influx to create a charade that Lagos is working. A small city in South Africa that doesn't have as much money as lagos will beat Lagos infrastructural wise on every level.

Tinubu supporters should spare us the noise abeg.
I agree with you completely.
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by FatherOfJesus(op): 9:39pm On Jun 24, 2022
Golan007:
Why don't you want to talk abiut your state?
because I pay tax to Lagos State
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by Pinklygul: 10:17pm On Jun 24, 2022
In my honest opinion,I blame the whites 100%.



They were the real innovators of Lagos colony.
They lived,worked and established their businesses in Lagos colony thereby developing it to a city. They still merged Lagos colony to the rest of the country hence magnifying it's (Lagos) problems.


SA as a large country has 3 to 4 developed cities because the whites lived and occupied these places,built houses and establishments.
Abuja that the FG has poured in billions of naira into is still running in circles.
Blacks will always be blacks!

Knowing how diverse and populated Nigeria as a nation is, I'm wondering what their motives was undecided


Alternatively, they would have simply made Lagos colony a country.
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by Pinklygul: 10:21pm On Jun 24, 2022
@op, your username tho lipsrsealed
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by Mrshape: 10:31pm On Jun 24, 2022
[quote author=Factcheck0001 post=114115268][/quote]Change to figures to dollar at the exchange rate during the periods respectively
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by Kingspin(m): 10:35pm On Jun 24, 2022
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Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by Gozac: 10:39pm On Jun 24, 2022
2elliot:
Those urchins praising tinubu will never agree.
Those urchins are the worst group of tribal bigots who wants Tinubu to be president so that Yoruba region can be enriched and favoured by a Tinubu just as Buhari is doing in Daura
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by 2elliot: 4:04am On Jun 25, 2022
Gozac:
Those urchins are the worst group of tribal bigots who wants Tinubu to be president so that Yoruba region can be enriched and favoured by a Tinubu just as Buhari is doing in Daura
That's just it.
Re: In My Opinion, I Don't Think Lagos Has Progressed Since 1991. by walefresh3(m): 4:48am On Jun 25, 2022
FatherOfJesus:
no, the comparison is senseless.

It's like asking me how many roads connects Enugu to anambra state instead of asking me how many roads connects Abakpa in enugu to indepence layout.
U said tinubu didn't do anything in Lagos ?

Nyamiri can't stop to amazes me ... Go back your dead region .. anufia peoples

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