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Mailthaddeus:
So the gospel of Jesus Christ lacks evidence? Baba u need to humble urself and seek God, that is the only way u can find Him. Remember ur not believing in God won't won't add or remove anything from Him, na u go kuku spend eternity in Hell/lake of fire.

But if u will humble urself and ask God to reveal Himself to u, acknowledge the fact that u are not sure of His existence, but u wish to know and that He should reveal Himself to u..I assure u, do this in a sincere heart and u will find Jesus Christ ready to welcome u to His kingdom.

The fundamental question is: why is the Abrahamic God the right one, but the Aztec (or the ancient Hausa, Inca, Egyptian, Greek, etc) one is the wrong one?

Adherents of all these religions would point to their sacred text as evidence of their conviction, so you doing the same is not proof either.

ajekpaks:
Mr. Sane, I agree I am mad because I refuse to accept the junk stuffed down your throats... I'm sorry



Ordinary Satan hold your God for work since Genesis, upon say Jesus don come earth yet na still same same... tell me WEtin come be the use exactly of God?

Na him use him hand create Satan, Satan Fuxk up, next thing e go create Adam, Satan still fuxk Adam up, na still God come use him hand go build hell fire wet him go dey put people wey Satan don fuxk up... that effort wey him use dey construct hell why him no use am fix Satan up once and for all?

Tell me?

Baba, u need calm down and humble urself before God. The Bible says God resists the proud, this arrogance will only lead u to Hell, and that time u won't be able to obtain salvation. Satan is defeated long ago, He is powerless before any true child of God.

Satan has also been chased out of Heaven to Earth and the Bible says, 'Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time'.

It's we men who wrestle and contend with the devil, not God himself. And while he is here tormenting and causing havoc in the Earth, the Bible is clear that he hAs only but a short time. Do not allow the devil add ur soul to his assestz.

kelvindj98:
Don't have to insult your father like that.

Huh!

jaephoenix:
Because of u I went through Genesis 4 again. Nowhere was it written that Adam and Eve had other children apart from Cain, Abel and Seth...

It is not in Genesis 4 but in Genesis 5.

Genesis 5:4
"And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:

jaephoenix:
1. See as u r contradicting yourself. Who are the false god lovers? Can you name them? Are you saying the god Christians around me love are false?

The people around you are most likely church goers and not Christians. And church goers do not truly love God, else you would hate them because they have better lives.

jaephoenix:
2. Another gaffe. Another contradiction. Can you remind me when Africans were 'Leaving better lives'?

What are all the threads in here about the good good old days about o child tribulation?

https://www.nairaland.com/6977809/good-old-days-pictures/2#110086659

Especially this man's comments

A305:
The best time to live on Earth was in the 80s, 90s and early 2000s...

And that is a comment made since 2008, you probably were not still born then.

Dtruthspeaker:
It is not in Genesis 4 but in Genesis 5.

Genesis 5:4
"And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:

That's even worse. He had other sons and daughters after Cain got married in Chapter 4?
So you still haven't answered who bros Cain married.
You're further shooting yourself in the foot
I suggest you chill out a little from defending that fairy tale. The problem is you'll enter more portholes as you try to defend one porthole

Incognito21:
How can you call Satan ordinary!!! That which God knows, Satan also knows too, God is impartial, God is also an opposite of satan, like wise Satan is opposite of God, there are being’s powerful as God as well, let us make man in our image? This statements refers to other being’s, I doubt if Satan was created, I believe Satan was also one of the beings, God found a way of being the supreme over the other beings by Creating humans, humans feeds God by giving him glory and praises, Satan feeds from humans, by pain and fear, now I believe Satan also want’s to be supreme just like God, that’s where pride crept in.

So why is it difficult for God to deal with the Satan situation?
and please explain the bolded

Incognito21:
How can you call Satan ordinary!!! That which God knows, Satan also knows too, God is impartial, God is also an opposite of satan, like wise Satan is opposite of God, there are being’s powerful as God as well, let us make man in our image? This statements refers to other being’s, I doubt if Satan was created, I believe Satan was also one of the beings, God found a way of being the supreme over the other beings by Creating humans, humans feeds God by giving him glory and praises, Satan feeds from humans, by pain and fear, now I believe Satan also want’s to be supreme just like God, that’s where pride crept in.

So why is it difficult for God to deal with the Satan situation?
and please explain the bolded

Incognito21:
How can you call Satan ordinary!!! That which God knows, Satan also knows too, God is impartial, God is also an opposite of satan, like wise Satan is opposite of God, there are being’s powerful as God as well, let us make man in our image? This statements refers to other being’s, I doubt if Satan was created, I believe Satan was also one of the beings, God found a way of being the supreme over the other beings by Creating humans, humans feeds God by giving him glory and praises, Satan feeds from humans, by pain and fear, now I believe Satan also want’s to be supreme just like God, that’s where pride crept in.

So why is it difficult for God to deal with the Satan situation?

kernniejay:
Op has invited you atheists to a festival so enjoy yourself.

Just because you've decided not to use your brains and emancipate yourself does not mean we should all join you in your Zombie world

holywind:
they got no answer for this,, all they've got is "my Bible tells me" no brain to think for themselves

Not entirely their fault, the Bible threatened them with hell fire in case they decide to use their brains

Mailthaddeus:
Baba, u need calm down and humble urself before God. The Bible says God resists the proud, this arrogance will only lead u to Hell, and that time u won't be able to obtain salvation. Satan is defeated long ago, He is powerless before any true child of God.

Satan has also been chased out of Heaven to Earth and the Bible says, 'Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time'.

It's we men who wrestle and contend with the devil, not God himself. And while he is here tormenting and causing havoc in the Earth, the Bible is clear that he hAs only but a short time. Do not allow the devil add ur soul to his assestz.

How are you wrestling with something that do not exist?

Dtruthspeaker:
The people around you are most likely church goers and not Christians. And church goers do not truly love God, else you would hate them because they have better lives.



What are all the threads in here about the good good old days about o child tribulation?

https://www.nairaland.com/6977809/good-old-days-pictures/2#110086659

Especially this man's comments


And that is a comment made since 2008, you probably were not still born then.

You're further worsening your case, bro
1. The people around me u call Church goers live more righteous lives than you'd ever dream of. And lets assume Dtruthspeaker is the only Christian in Nigeria(since he doesn't believe there are other true Christians), how is your life better than the average atheist European, Chinese or American that has better healthcare, food, security, infrastructure etc?
2. In the good old days u pointed out, there were actually less Christians and more 'pagans'. The gospel isn't as widespread as it is now, so u r saying your gracious god was favoring heathens. So that completely negates your point
3. And oh, I'm much older than you think. You should be talking about my if my daughter was born then
Bros 'Dtruthspeaker', turns out your name is a big burden foe you

ajekpaks:
After I read the Bible from genesis to revelation twice...

I Discovered what a load of hokus pokus



My love don't get me started on the Quran... the poison and vile in that book is only equalled with that of the Bible...

One slave book is enough for me so no thanks

As for these threats you're throwing my way, I know say na the chain wey them use colobi your brain be that...

E concern you oh

Pls talk about the poison in Qur'an. We wanna learn.

compton11:
why directing your frustrations toward Islam.


Majority of atheists are former Christians

Former, ex, exconvict, jilted or whatever. They should come & explain the content of each religion that made them to be dumb/atheists.
Cowards coming for the Bible after their lives were saved.
Some of you are meat of rituals in the ancient times if not for redemption Christianity brought.
This ajekpaks would v been used for sacrifice cos he mumu too much. But Christianity that you are bashing today saved your life.

Sweetplum:
Former, ex, exconvict, jilted or whatever. They should come & explain the content of each religion that made them to be dumb/atheists.
Cowards coming for the Bible after their lives were saved.
Some of you are meat of rituals in the ancient times if not for redemption Christianity brought.
This ajekpaks would v been used for sacrifice cos he mumu too much. But Christianity that you are bashing today saved your life.

Saved me from who or what exactly?

jaephoenix:
You're further worsening your case, bro
1. The people around me u call Church goers live more righteous lives than you'd ever dream of. And lets assume Dtruthspeaker is the only Christian in Nigeria(since he doesn't believe there are other true Christians), how is your life better than the average atheist European, Chinese or American that has better healthcare, food, security, infrastructure etc?
2. In the good old days u pointed out, there were actually less Christians and more 'pagans'. The gospel isn't as widespread as it is now, so u r saying your gracious god was favoring heathens. So that completely negates your point
3. And oh, I'm much older than you think. You should be talking about my if my daughter was born then
Bros 'Dtruthspeaker', turns out your name is a big burden foe you

Don't mind the kid

snookcg:
It shows to be that no matter how hard we try, that Supreme BEING will forever be an unsolved equation and can only be if and when he is ready to reveal.
We talking about earth being billions of years old. Nigeria self nor get 5000 years memory or archeological evidence of existence to start with.

This is what you said about Big Bang theory, why don’t you use the same standard?
That’s hypocrisy.

Karnice600:
Sure. I mentioned that earlier.
The horse riders with the cross emblem.

They killed other “Christian sects” that are not part of the nicene creed.

Without crusaders, Christianity won’t have spread.

I don’t think there’s any religion that has killed more people than Christianity.

LienwaltAbel:
And the natives of places where the peaceful Christian colonisers arrived that didn't accept religion, what do you think happened to them? Besides old Christian sects like the coptics in Africa, and the Church of Antioch, the foremost Christian sect was the one established after Constantine converted. Do note that:
The Roman empire at the time was a large empire that occupied much of Europe and north africa, so when Constantine converted, it allowed for easy spread of Christianity;
Roman empire at the time was frail and was about to fall apart so Constantine needed Christianity for a sort of unification amongst it's subjects.
İf this isn't colonialism's hardwork, i don't know what it is.

Islam didn't convert everyone they conquered. Andalusia ie modern Spain and Portugal can attest to that. Non Muslims had to pay a form of tax or convert to avoid taxes. Guess what, when the Moors finally left Andalusia, Muslims and Jews were forced to convert or we're even q

Can you send a link where you read that Roman Empire was frail and about to fall,by who?

Cypress042:
Mr, to be an athiest is a choice and you should that.

So don't try to bring your irradical and irraditional thoughts here. Get sense na

Oga why attack him that's what this thread is about

Lilfire:
Baba they use money fine encounter for Christianity how is that possible, Bible say sake me and you will find me, no body will help you bro no even the pope it is a personal thing that only you can do for your self, coming her to cry foul because you want the easier way out will no help, knowledge they say is power it is for a reason like this, at the right time I believe you will fine your way back home where you belong

Truly knowledge is power.

Dtruthspeaker:
There is a place where reasonable questions terminate eg You:who took my chair?

Me: It is me, Mfon.

You: Why did you take it?

Me: because I wanted to sit down.

Then you make the mistake of asking "why do you want to sit down?"

Now, you have entered into the world of stupid questions.

Now, if I wanted to verify if you are stupid, I would answer

Me: because my leg was paining me. And I know you would say

You: why is your leg paining you?.

Now, without doubt, such a person is stupid.

There is a place where all reasonable questions terminate as you see in this thread.

No reasonable person asks questions unendingly because a stupid question is just right at the corner waiting to make you a stupid person.

I wonder if you would ask "why is stupidity at the corner? Or why is there a place where reasonable questions terminate" o boy,

Interesting example..But then, on what basis do you judge whether a question is stupid or not? and how would you relate this scenario to questions people ask about God?

badinfluence:
Because in a quest for answers, we are left with more questions. And the mysteries of the universe seem much more than imagined. A lot of people who go down this path, often begin to question the meaning of life.

Questioning the meaning of life is something that everyone does at some point in time or the other. Religious people just seem to believe the meaning as described by their religion.

In the quest for answers outside religion, questions about the meaning of life are bound to pop up. But just because someone can't currently find one, doesn't mean one doesn't exist.

Some people may say it has no meaning.. some may say the meaning is personal to each individual.. some may subscribe to that of their religion.

At the end of the day, it's still all subjective.

ajekpaks:
Just because you've decided not to use your brains and emancipate yourself does not mean we should all join you in your Zombie world

I understand your problem very well. You are actually the insane that thinks he is the only one with sanity and every other sane person is actually insane.

naija4life247:
I am a Muslim. I went to Catholic Primary school and did Bible Knowledge as a compulsory subject from primary-1 to JSS-3, nobody in my set got up to me in the Exams. But, I also went to Quranic schools. So, I have a fair knowledge of the two most popular religions in Nigeria. Today, I am married to a Christian. My kids are Christians. But, mind you, I too was baptized in primary-4 at at the Catholic Church, I was baptized immediate after High School at Mountain of Fire and Miracles Ministry, Onike Yaba, I was also baptized at Winners Chapel when I wanted to wed a Winner. But, I am still a Muslim who also goes to the Church.

Christianity and Islam are not scam, only that Nigerians want God to do for them what they should do themselves. The difference between the two religions are the people who practice the religion. Christians are not as aggressive as Muslims when their religion is malign, but Muslims are more tolerant, that is why you see several Muslims who are married to Christians and still drive their wives to Church.

Overall, I go to the Muslim, and also go to the Church. If masquerades of my community come out, I still follow them for up to 3o kilometers round a section of the city.

If you think God does not exist, then you need psychiatric evaluation.

You finished giving us your brief history, in the end, you didn't contributed anything meaningful, and you jumped to a conclusion. Is there anything in your writeup that gave rise to that conclusion? Hell no. That's why u folks fail English woefully

UnknownQueen:
I realised that before birth while I was growing in my mother's womb, I didn't have knowledge of anything but somehow I was breathing, so in my mind I thought to myself ,if my mother decided to terminate me, I'll still not have any knowledge of anything, the same thing will therefore apply to me when I grow old and die, so I concluded that the state I was before birth, would happen after my death too , cos in the first place ,the brain to remind me of all my activities on earth would have been lowered in the grain and eaten by termites, making me draw the conclusion that we all existed by chance and not in any way different from animals...So there's no God anywhere.

Breathing what?

JOACHINpedro:
Breathing what?

Probably oxygen from my mother .......

OkoAmarashy:
If you can't grasp what I'm driving at, maybe you should ask someone else to help you.

Sorry sir. U don't make sense. A third person has confirmed the same. Maybe u can throw more light yourself

Brendaniel:
No one is begging anyone to believe in God, however I believe there is God, after watching and listening to all the explanations of the big bang theory I reconfirmed there is God.

The source of Life is from God

Which God exactly?

HealerH:
Blah blah blah.
I hate it when illiterates try to flex their mediocre views on my lines.

I'm a believer and I live an immoral life. But are we talking about believers here?

When a believer does things that contradict common sense or his religion, he/she can be accused of ignorance or hypocrisy.

There's no true Atheist that doesn't make use of his brain. So you can't actually accuse a true atheist of ignorance (I know why I said True Atheist... I used that expression so that empty-brained wannabe atheists [like you] don't mistake yourself for an authentic breed). And you can't also accuse a true atheist of hypocrisy because he doesn't adhere to any metaphysical principle. (Hypocrisy is when you accept a principle and still act against the principle..

You can only accuse an atheist of intellectual laziness because atheism is fundamentally borne out of man's intellectual limit. That person knows something. But not all he's supposed to know before making a conclusion.
You don't believe in God, not because you have a proof that he doesn't exist, but because you were able to prove someone's else's argument of God's existence to be wrong.

I said 3 + 3 = 12. You say I'm wrong.
Yet you're incapable of telling me the correct answer. That's what happens in atheism.
I said God exists and I give my arguments. You proved my argument to be wrong but you're incapable of proving that God doesn't exist.

The existence of things is not conditioned by our arguments or opinions of the things. Things exists/or do not exist and remain what they are independently of our opinion.

So I repeat. Atheism is a lazy man's excuse for not wanting to be morally responsible.
Now get lost.

I hate when fools think they are wise.

tiger28:
I used to be like a non believer UNTIL I looked at my anatomy ,all my organs, their functions,
How if I lose my toes , I will be unbalanced.

How EVEN the animals in the water have fins and gills to survive

How EVEN todays aeroplane cannot be possible if they didn't mimick the BIRDS with their wings to stay airborne.................

How EVEN the most updated science cannot create a tiny mosquito or anything with a life , they can only clone them

There is NO AMOUNT of Accidental BIG BANG Theory that can INTELLIGENTLY put all these perfect creations together.



All this point out to a very highly Powerful and Intelligent Creator. You might call him WHATEVER you want to call him BUT there definitely is a Creator......don't be deceived.


This is when I stopped being an Atheist!

Your god is god of the gaps. you're using the fact that humans are unable to do some things right now as proof of god.

Let me take you on a journey to the year 1214. that's just a random year I chose. What do you think someone like you when existed around that time would be talking about as proof of god. maybe humans flying from Edo in China to Deep jungles of Africa? let's assume we time travel with even a common helicopter and they see a human come down from it after landing it; would someone like you who thinks the fact that a human cannot fly fast across continents like a bird is proof God exists change his stance? I'm sure you wouldn't. you would simply bring up another thing to protect that belief you have like being able to talk realtime with someone in China..... which we do this century with ease. this is the problem with god of the gaps

sundaygray:
Omo i observed the life, learned different religions sat down and thought about life in general and also, never had a spiritual encounter i have spent money, a lot of money for a spiritual encounter but no level baba.The lack of evidence just make me chill. Unless God appears and shows himself to me, no level

show himself to you as what?see this worm oo,just make mustake and die like this and see,you will see God wella,well, chase God,not the other way around