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elated177:
Are the Ten Commandments sufficient for any follower of Yahushua the Messiah?

MaxInDHouse:
NO!

elated177:
What is missing?

MaxInDHouse:
CHRIST!
Whatever makes God told Moses that another prophet will come and TEACH what Israelites must accept {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} then the Mosaic laws including the so called ten commandments is not sufficient Sir!

elated177:
Who is Yahushua the Messiah?

What is the Word YHVH?

elated177:
The fact that the Ten Commandments of YHVH Almighty were written by him on two stone tablets should give any genuine seeker an idea of how seriously he takes them. There are other laws, decrees, statutes and commands in the Torah, of course, but the Ten Commandments are separate.

The two stone tablets upon which the Ten Commandments were written were carefully placed in the Ark of the Covenant. The other two items were the golden jar of manna and budded staff of Aaron.

You see, when the Father in heaven, YHVH Almighty, said he would write his Laws on our hearts and put them in our minds, he was, by that very fact, saying he would make us his temples and our hearts and minds a kind of ark.

John 14:23 Yahushua replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.

I think this should form a a new thread entirely.

TenQ:
I don't think any Christian will disagree with this except if what you are saying is that observance of the ten commandment is what gives us salvation. Being born again will cause you to observe the law without being ruled by the law.

TenQ:
The relationship of Christians to God is just like the fact that because I am a true child of my parents causes me to live right without living under the FEAR of obeying their RULES: this is the relationship of a person born again through Christ to the Almighty FATHER!

TenQ:
Those who are Born Again inherently please their Father without the threat of non observance of the Law. Only servants are kept in check by the threat of the law!

MaxInDHouse:
A messenger of the covenant sent to establish the New Covenant! Malachi 3:1


Meaning "He causes to become" the Creator of all thing, He created the first creature {Proverbs 8:22-31} and empowered him to create all other things! Colossians 1:15-16

So they're separate beings not the same as TRINITARIANS do claim.

elated177:
What is the difference between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant?

I meant the "Word of YHVH". So, maxindhouse, who is the Word of YHVH?

elated177:
I need you to always mention the Ten Commandments whenever you are referring to them and not just use the word "law". There are many laws in the Torah.

What else can give Salvation if not the observance of the Ten Commandments?

How can you observe the Ten Commandments without being ruled by the Commandments? Is it possible for anyone to be greater than the Ten Commandments? The way you people lift things from the writings of our brother, apostle Paul, and jumble them all up is not only deceptive but ludicrous.



I don't think even you understood what you were saying there. Your parents are your parents, mere mortals like yourself. You can even play golf and tennis with them. Your Maker and Creator is God Almighty and you must worship him with FEAR AND TREMBLING. Will you also play golf and tennis with your Creator? Could that be the image of the Creator the merchants of his Word have sold to you?

Psalm 2: 11 Serve YHVH with fear and celebrate his rule with trembling. 12 Kiss his son, or he will be angry and your way will lead to your destruction, for his wrath can flare up in a moment. Blessed are all who take refuge in him.

Hebrews 12: 28 Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and so worship YHVH acceptably with reverence and awe, 29 for our “God is a consuming fire.”



Again, I don't think even you understood what you were saying there. This is the kind of abstract message that has left its hearers empty. "Threat of the law" indeed.

TenQ:
John 1:12:
"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:"

MaxInDHouse:
OT is the history of mankind and how God dealt with a chosen nation. NT is about how mankind will gain salvation through a role model CHRIST.

MaxInDHouse:
God's word is God's word what else do you think it is?

elated177:
Malachi 1: 6 “A son honors his father, and a slave his master. If I am a father, where is the honor due me? If I am a master, where is the respect due me?” says YHVH Almighty.
“It is you priests who show contempt for my name. “But you ask, ‘How have we shown contempt for your name?’

John 14: 15 “If you love me, keep my commands.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

TenQ:
The commands of Christ are His teachings all hinged on

Mar 12:30-31:
"And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. There is none other commandment greater than these."

TenQ:
Which of the ten commandments represent this?

Mar 16:15-16:
"And he said to them, Go you into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believes and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believes not shall be damned."

TenQ:
Which of the ten commandments represent this?

Mat 6:12:
"And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors."

TenQ:
Which of the ten commandments represent this?

Mat 5:44:
"But I say to you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which spitefully use you, and persecute you;"

TenQ:
Which of the ten commandments represent this?

I wish you can just humble yourself to learn from Christ!

Mat 12:5-7:
"Or have you not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?
But I say to you, That in this place is one greater than the temple. But if you had known what this means, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, you would not have condemned the guiltless."

elated177:
Is that all?

You are being evasive.

elated177:
El Elohe Yahshrael!

The righteous will live by their faithfulness. What does it mean?

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

NNTR:
Habakkuk 2:4
'“Look at the proud one, his soul is not right within him,
But the righteous will live by his faith [in the true God].'

2 Corinthians 5:21
'He made Christ who knew no sin to [judicially] be sin on our behalf,
so that in Him we would become the righteousness of God
[that is, we would be made acceptable to Him and placed in a right relationship with Him by His gracious lovingkindness]'

Romans 3:22
'This righteousness of God comes through faith in Jesus Christ
for all those [Jew or Gentile] who believe [and trust in Him and acknowledge Him as God’s Son].
There is no distinction,'

Righteousness by faith, simply means, a righteousness of God in Christ (i.e. the privilege of having a right standing with God by proxy Christ) that we accept and receive from God by and through faith (i.e. the currency of the Kingdom)

'Righteousness by faith' is optimised from having 100% faith in Jesus Christ and believing everything that Jesus Christ means, represents and/or stands for.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

MaxInDHouse:
The book (Bible) has all the details but as you can see i'm only summarizing it in just one or two sentences.
OT~How we got here, how trouble began, how God dealt with a chosen nation and how God promised through the chosen nation to redeem mankind.
NT~How the means of mankind's redemption came, how he lived like all other men before he got baptized, his ministry, teachings, disciples, how he faced fierce opposition among his own race, accusation, arrest, charged, arraigned, judged, sentenced, his execution, resurrection and ascension back to heaven.
You can add what else you remember.


God's word means what God said but if you're referring to John 1:1 that is another thing entirely.
In heaven God passes information to all his angelic sons through the firstborn just as God intended to pass information to all mankind through Adam His firstborn human Son {Luke 3:38} so even though all the angels knew God, it's their elder brother who is the firstborn that always speak to them as God's mouthpiece {1Thessalonians 4:16} everything including all the angels are like his properties inherited from his father. Colossians 1:15-16
So they all know the person whose voice they always heard as God's chiefspokeperson back in heaven {Mark 1:24} that's why he is rightly called "the word of God"
Most misinformed people often misconstrue that and spewing nonsense about Jesus but from his own expression it's clear that he differs from the person who sent him {Matthew 24:36; Luke 22:42} both of them have their individual mindset the son only love doing whatever pleases his father {John 8:28} that's all!

elated177:
I just asked you some simple questions!

Did the ten commandments speak anything about loving God and loving man?

Why did Jesus call this the greatest commandment even though it is not part of the ten commandments?

Did the ten commandments speak of forgiving others?

Did the ten commandments command us to love our enemies?

If they didn't, the Messiah's laws refined the ten commandments to its maximum extent.

Learn from the Messiah and be free bro!












YHVH forbid!
I will not join you in pitting the Ten Commandments against any part of what Yahushua the Messiah said while he was on earth. The Messiah himself never did such. That would be tantamount to fighting against himself. Yahushua the Messiah cannot fight himself. He is the embodiment of the Ten Commandments of YHVH Almighty.

Satan and his forces know what the teaching and obedience to the Ten Commandments do to their kingdom.

elated177:
Muttleylaff.

elated177:
What about along the line of Hebrews 9:22?

Do you accept that Yahushua the Messiah is embodiment of the Ten Commandments?

MaxInDHouse:
"Yes, according to the Law nearly all things are cleansed with blood, and unless blood is poured out no forgiveness takes place"

The wages of sin is death {Romans 6:23} so if the sinner will not pay with his/her life then another life must suffice that's why blood is required. Just as through one (perfect) man all humans because sinners the same is applicable to redemption that through the blood one (perfect) man all will be cleansed! Romans 5:11-12


He is the perfect description of God's attributes {John 14:9} so we don't need laws to become God's children, all we need is a role model CHRIST! John 1:11-12

elated177:
Hebrews 9:22 - the entire chapter, in fact - marks the clear distinction between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant.
Maxindhouse, I need a straight answer: do you or do you not accept that Yahushua the Messiah, as the Word of YHVH Almighty, is the embodiment of the Ten Commandments of YHVH Almighty?

MaxInDHouse:
Why are you laying undue emphasis on this ten commandments?

Guy, God has about 600 laws for the nation of Israel but because Moses asked Him questions regarding these laws which no nation has anything familiar that's why God wrote the first 10 on stone tablets. All the laws are equally commandments and important since they are laws from the same person: GOD!

PastorAIO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc0fl6Sw8Sg


Why do these nasty Christian folks like to lie lie like this? Unless they are following their Father of Lies.

Why do you think Jewish people do not respect your nonsense, always falsely quoting Jewish scriptures to further your nefarious agenda. As the old highlife song goes, 'If wayo man die, na wayo man go bury am."

Psalms 40:6

6 In sacrifice and offering you have not delighted,

but you have given me an open ear.
Burnt offering and sin offering
you have not required.


Hebrews10

“Sacrifices and offerings you have not desired,

but a body have you prepared for me;

6 in burnt offerings and sin offerings
you have taken no pleasure.

MaxInDHouse:
Why are you laying undue emphasis on this ten commandments?

Guy, God has about 600 laws for the nation of Israel but because Moses asked Him questions regarding these laws which no nation has anything familiar that's why God wrote the first 10 on stone tablets. All the laws are equally commandments and important since they are laws from the same person: GOD!

PastorAIO:
so before Moses no nation told it's people 'thou shall not steal'. all those laws...

Abeg these commands exist in other cultures long before Moses came and plagiarised them.

PastorAIO:
so before Moses no nation told it's people 'thou shall not steal'. all those laws...

Abeg these commands exist in other cultures long before Moses came and plagiarised them.

elated177:
Show where that is written in the Scriptures.

PastorAIO:
so before Moses no nation told it's people 'thou shall not steal'. all those laws...

Abeg these commands exist in other cultures long before Moses came and plagiarised them.