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The only way out is for Peter Obi to collapse his ambitions and join up with PDP/ATIKU. They can form a Unitarian government. This can wrestle power away from APC and stop this historical calamity coming.

[quote author=Ojuntana post=114682707][/quote]ejimatic is Christian. On this same forum, I have seen him many times criticise Buhari's lopsided appointments towards his region and religion. Now ask him, what changed now?
Region comes first for him.

Apt!

LegendHero:
Well written Babachir Lawal. You made a lot of point but you failed to speak like a politician.

Politics is not a race of morality, it is a dicey game where numbers matter especially in an ethnically & religiously divisive country like Nigeria.

There is no way in hell that Asiwaju will pick a Northern Christian. His loss will be one of the greatest in electoral history if he had made that blunder.

When Atiku picked the PDP ticket, I expected this kind of uproar from you guys but it’s sad that not a lot bothered. The question is why Tinubu?

I am proud of Tinubu because a man shouldn’t be influenced by his enemies in taking decision that can shape his destiny. If he fail next year at the polls, he will have no regret because he is daring and followed through with his best action plan. Infact not the best alone but the ONLY action plan.

But if he had succumbed to his political enemies and picked a Christian vice just because he’s scared of the naysayers, then he will never be peace with himself and will die by that regret.

Like you said Babachir, you can now go and vote for another candidate. It is a democracy, one man one vote.

U are priding(if such word exists) on rigging and violence to impose Tinubu on Christians. I think christian wont take this lying down. The country may go in flames. I pray for peace, but the peacefulness of Christians are taken for granted. I have a very good job but I can lay dat down to defend my religion

Tinubu was arm twisted by the northern Muslim governors.. the greedy ones who wants to remain in power.

LegendHero:
If he is not emotionally intelligent, he would have picked a Christian Northerner as vice and people like you would have celebrated his impending loss.

He is bold and audacious, something most of the lily liveried politician will never dare to make.

Currently, the only thing that will stop Tinubu from winning next year election is two things:

—Kwakwanso stepping down for Atiku

—Peter Obi stepping down for Atiku.

If none of the above fail to happen, Tinubu is your next president because he already forgo the Northern Christian votes in his calculation before reaching this conclusion of his. They don’t even vote APC normally before so all this threat is just for aesthetics.

So in your mind there are no Christians in the north and there are also no northern Christian states like Jos, Sokoto, Adamawa where we have large number of Christian muslims.

Guy listen well.. APC is clearly not counting on free and fair election cos they already know they stand no chance.

My advice to other parties is to be smart and vigilant.

It is better to prevent rigging than to fight it in court when the rigger is already in power
L.

Willie2015:
No pathway to the Presidency without the North....
Tinubu has no option than to court the North....
Whether Abiola scenario will play or Not...
It is a risk that he must take......
How do you want him to win the Presidency
as a Muslim Minority in the South with a Christian Minority in the North as a VP..
Haba!

What exactly do you mean by Muslim minority and Christian minority?
Is Buhari representing only northern Muslims?
Is Osinbajo representing only southern Christians?
Tinubu is a Muslim. Where he comes from as a Muslim should not matter to other Muslims just as a Christian VP's zone shouldn't matter.
This bigotry of minority Muslim and minority Christian needs to stop!! You guys are further dividing this country. We already have North Vs South, Hausa, Igbo, Yoruba, Christian Vs Muslim division.
Now you're adding minority Muslim and minority Christian.
Are you saying Tinubu is not expecting Christians in the south especially SW to vote for him?

femisplash:
Noise.
Atiku is going nowhere, unfortunately for him, Obi is acting a spoiler for Atiku in the traditional PDP SE/SS and SW is a no show for him. Leave God out of this because God won't vote and majority of southerners are not voting another Northern after Buhari's 8 years.
The next President is a Southern.

If only you know , Is northerners that are ready to vote a sick southerner after Baba Buhari lols ?... You will learn something in 2023 ...


Is like seeing 10k mistakenly place on the ground and u don't have any money in your hand and u r now saying u would leave the money cos it's not for u ...Nigerian politicians would never try such , it is the turn of the Northeast, the SouthSouth with Gov Okowa is enough for us ...with Baba Tinubu Muslim VP , it is a done deal for Baba Atiku ...

Throwback:
It would have been foolish of Tinubu to go for a paperweight Christian running mate to court the votes of those who are more inclined to voting PDP or LP.

Tinubu has made the right choice for his presidential ambition.

Christians like me who support him are doing so to get to the Presidency, and not to please his antagonists and lose the Presidency.

Some say Tinubu is greedy and blinded by ambition.

They forget about Atiku the political prostitute that has been changing parties just so he can contest the Presidency everytime since 2007.

They forget Obi that betrayed APGA just so he can benefit from the national structures of PDP and was running mate to Atiku in 2019. Same Obi bought Presidential ticket forms of the PDP and only abandoned the party when he saw he would be a loser at the primaries that was only less than a week away. He hurriedly moved to Labour Party and prevailed on Pat Utomi to step down for him, so he could be the automatic candidate.

They do not remember that Tinubu has always grown his own party and formed alliances to get to where he is now. Since he left office as Governor in 2007, he has never campaigned for any political office until now, but was campaigning for others and contributing his quota to the success of others.

When things became tough in APC, Tinubu did not decamp to any party or SDP as wailers had been parroting. Instead, it was the darling of the wailers that absconded from the PDP that gave him a national spotlight in 2019, only to enter a Labour Party he never laboured for and become the Presidential candidate as a rebounding failure from PDP.

While Tinubu over the years was patient and able to organically plot his way to the presidential ticket of a party he laboured for with the initial formation of AC in 2006 that later aligned with other opposition parties to become APC in 2013.


If Tinubu is greedy, desperate, and overambitious with his patience and organic political growth, what then is Atiku and Obi?

You're not a Christian but an Islamic terrorist.

fergie001:
Sugarcoat it the way you like, I am against it. It doesn't show sensitivity, do you see the top positions lean on one side. You are supporting a precedence others will follow. One day one Northerner will pick someone from Kwara and tell you it's SW.

His own take on the issue is the worst on this thread

Rubbish! Thrash, Gibberish

LegendHero:
If he is not emotionally intelligent, he would have picked a Christian Northerner as vice and people like you would have celebrated his impending loss.

He is bold and audacious, something most of the lily liveried politician will never dare to make.

Currently, the only thing that will stop Tinubu from winning next year election is two things:

—Kwakwanso stepping down for Atiku

—Peter Obi stepping down for Atiku.

If none of the above fail to happen, Tinubu is your next president because he already forgo the Northern Christian votes in his calculation before reaching this conclusion of his. They don’t even vote APC normally before so all this threat is just for aesthetics.

fergie001:
ejimatic is Christian. On this same forum, I have seen him many times criticise Buhari's lopsided appointments towards his region and religion. Now ask him, what changed now?
Region comes first for him.

What useless region? Does he really think if Tinubu wins he's going to rule with this nonsense he just did? No he won't. He's already giving in to northern extremist demands. He can't turn his back on them when he gets the office else he courts danger. Buhari believed he won on a northern mandate. That's why he was so brazenly lopsided. You think Tinubu can do better in that respect. Never!!

nameo:
I think it is now fair to say reading this write up from someone like Babachir and seeing the massive reactions from northern Christains(esp APC members) and other people around the country, that a very significant shift have happened with APC regarding this election.

It is clear that this was not just a national error done by a desperate APC but a political error of gagantum scale. APC has lost the Middle belt and one may now ask where it hopes to get the huge votes needed to win the Presidential and other elective positions next year?

It cannot be the Upper North(cos Kwankwaso and Atiku will be sharing the votes with him there). It cannot be the SW, cos Obi and Atiku will be sharing votes there with him. And he cant now talk about the SS and SE with this choice!!

The calculations upon which this short sighted decision was made can now be seen to be very faulty and ill-thought out.

I wish him well

Mr man shvt up.
That's how you were analysing how ATiku would win 4 years ago, you have come again with your nonsense analysis, you never learn.

Wow! Is this man a Christian?

If not, this is the very first time I am seeing a Muslim unbias, smart with great wisdom.

Wether this man is a Muslim, a Christian or a Pagan, I love and respect him. I have marked him down for my support in any of his future political ambition.

Like seriously.

Throwback:
It would have been foolish of Tinubu to go for a paperweight Christian running mate to court the votes of those who are more inclined to voting PDP or LP.

Tinubu has made the right choice for his presidential ambition.

Christians like me who support him are doing so to get to the Presidency, and not to please his antagonists and lose the Presidency.

Some say Tinubu is greedy and blinded by ambition.

They forget about Atiku the political prostitute that has been changing parties just so he can contest the Presidency everytime since 2007.

They forget Obi that betrayed APGA just so he can benefit from the national structures of PDP and was running mate to Atiku in 2019. Same Obi bought Presidential ticket forms of the PDP and only abandoned the party when he saw he would be a loser at the primaries that was only less than a week away. He hurriedly moved to Labour Party and prevailed on Pat Utomi to step down for him, so he could be the automatic candidate.

They do not remember that Tinubu has always grown his own party and formed alliances to get to where he is now. Since he left office as Governor in 2007, he has never campaigned for any political office until now, but was campaigning for others and contributing his quota to the success of others.

When things became tough in APC, Tinubu did not decamp to any party or SDP as wailers had been parroting. Instead, it was the darling of the wailers that absconded from the PDP that gave him a national spotlight in 2019, only to enter a Labour Party he never laboured for and become the Presidential candidate as a rebounding failure from PDP.

While Tinubu over the years was patient and able to organically plot his way to the presidential ticket of a party he laboured for with the initial formation of AC in 2006 that later aligned with other opposition parties to become APC in 2013.


If Tinubu is greedy, desperate, and overambitious with his patience and organic political growth, what then is Atiku and Obi?

You are a good example of political lapdogs and cankerworm that only focuses on eating deep without minding damage it may cause.

Go through my Vote I am a Tinubu man go through my previous comments and u will know, I love him and I am proud of what he had achieved but his Ticket is disastrous, under his watch n his desperation had made him a tool in the hands of religious antagonist n those championing the Islamization agenda in Nigeria. Shetima, Ganduje and El rufai. Are powerful religious extremist leaders and they are at the forefront of his presidential bid.

There is still time for him to rethink his step and look at it Holistically, but for me n my family we won’t follow him blindly, I wish him all the best.

Nigerianization:
TINUBU betrayed the alliance for democracy AD and collapsed the party. Please don't forget to add that in your analysis. He neither formed the AD nor groomed it like you claimed.

Once that is taken care of, then we have a tale of three desperadoes.

One is an established and successful business man, wealth creator and entrepreneur. Before politics

The other was just an employee who never ran a business before politics but is corruptly richer than his country yet sees it borrowing away it's future and does nothing. He instead reserves his wealth for his one lifelong ambition. He is the emilokan of Africa.

The third is a Dubai based big brother that represents everything wrong with Nigeria. Presidency for him is just a mere ambition.

If you are a woman, which of these suitors will you go for? The ones that want to marry you to fulfill their life's ambitions or the one that wants to make you a better person.

Nigeria has been raped by bad leadership and all an aspirant cares about is that it is his turn. Shame

Tinubu left AD Because the leadership of the party sold out to Obasanjo. Out of the 6 State in the south west he was only able to retained Lagos.
It's not always good to change the Narrative because of political propaganda.

Throwback:
It would have been foolish of Tinubu to go for a paperweight Christian running mate to court the votes of those who are more inclined to voting PDP or LP.

Tinubu has made the right choice for his presidential ambition.

Christians like me who support him are doing so to get to the Presidency, and not to please his antagonists and lose the Presidency.

Some say Tinubu is greedy and blinded by ambition.

They forget about Atiku the political prostitute that has been changing parties just so he can contest the Presidency everytime since 2007.

They forget Obi that betrayed APGA just so he can benefit from the national structures of PDP and was running mate to Atiku in 2019. Same Obi bought Presidential ticket forms of the PDP and only abandoned the party when he saw he would be a loser at the primaries that was only less than a week away. He hurriedly moved to Labour Party and prevailed on Pat Utomi to step down for him, so he could be the automatic candidate.

They do not remember that Tinubu has always grown his own party and formed alliances to get to where he is now. Since he left office as Governor in 2007, he has never campaigned for any political office until now, but was campaigning for others and contributing his quota to the success of others.

When things became tough in APC, Tinubu did not decamp to any party or SDP as wailers had been parroting. Instead, it was the darling of the wailers that absconded from the PDP that gave him a national spotlight in 2019, only to enter a Labour Party he never laboured for and become the Presidential candidate as a rebounding failure from PDP.

While Tinubu over the years was patient and able to organically plot his way to the presidential ticket of a party he laboured for with the initial formation of AC in 2006 that later aligned with other opposition parties to become APC in 2013.


If Tinubu is greedy, desperate, and overambitious with his patience and organic political growth, what then is Atiku and Obi?

Its a lie, you are not a Christian.

Newton2024:
E ti lule. Eyin elesin sumonmi.

Brainwashed M_pkuru MMMIIIRRRIII cannibal IPIG terrorist monkey is spotted.

LegendHero:
Well written Babachir Lawal. You made a lot of point but you failed to speak like a politician.

Politics is not a race of morality, it is a dicey game where numbers matter especially in an ethnically & religiously divisive country like Nigeria.

There is no way in hell that Asiwaju will pick a Northern Christian. His loss will be one of the greatest in electoral history if he had made that blunder.

When Atiku picked the PDP ticket, I expected this kind of uproar from you guys but it’s sad that not a lot bothered. The question is why Tinubu?

I am proud of Tinubu because a man shouldn’t be influenced by his enemies in taking decision that can shape his destiny. If he fail next year at the polls, he will have no regret because he is daring and followed through with his best action plan. Infact not the best alone but the ONLY action plan.

But if he had succumbed to his political enemies and picked a Christian vice just because he’s scared of the naysayers, then he will never be peace with himself and will die by that regret.

Like you said Babachir, you can now go and vote for another candidate. It is a democracy, one man one vote.

I love how you ended your write up by daring the Christian community. It’s left for you Christians to see things holistically, you can see how political jamboree has came out to defend how over 90million Nigerian lives doesn’t worth a single person personal ambition of Asiwaju.

Christian know that this man also has one vote as y’all has one vote. But look at the arrogant and dare they put to place for the 2023 election. I want to believe ur employer is depending on rigging, if not No person dare throws religion at the fore front of election campaign.

LegendHero:
Well written Babachir Lawal. You made a lot of point but you failed to speak like a politician.

Politics is not a race of morality, it is a dicey game where numbers matter especially in an ethnically & religiously divisive country like Nigeria.

There is no way in hell that Asiwaju will pick a Northern Christian. His loss will be one of the greatest in electoral history if he had made that blunder.

When Atiku picked the PDP ticket, I expected this kind of uproar from you guys but it’s sad that not a lot bothered. The question is why Tinubu?

I am proud of Tinubu because a man shouldn’t be influenced by his enemies in taking decision that can shape his destiny. If he fail next year at the polls, he will have no regret because he is daring and followed through with his best action plan. Infact not the best alone but the ONLY action plan.

But if he had succumbed to his political enemies and picked a Christian vice just because he’s scared of the naysayers, then he will never be peace with himself and will die by that regret.

Like you said Babachir, you can now go and vote for another candidate. It is a democracy, one man one vote.

It's not about just Tinubu. By running a Muslim Muslim ticket, there's high danger of APC losing majority of National Assembly Members especially the ones in christian dominated areas since they vote on the same day and that would include Adamawa which the writer is from. Plateau as well could lose some persons too as towards the election, islamising of Nigeria would surely spring up but it's a risk for TINUBU but not for his supporters. While other who had hope in the south south and south east, with that decision have almost lost out from going to National Assembly

LegendHero:
Well written Babachir Lawal. You made a lot of point but you failed to speak like a politician.

Politics is not a race of morality, it is a dicey game where numbers matter especially in an ethnically & religiously divisive country like Nigeria.

There is no way in hell that Asiwaju will pick a Northern Christian. His loss will be one of the greatest in electoral history if he had made that blunder.

When Atiku picked the PDP ticket, I expected this kind of uproar from you guys but it’s sad that not a lot bothered. The question is why Tinubu?

I am proud of Tinubu because a man shouldn’t be influenced by his enemies in taking decision that can shape his destiny. If he fail next year at the polls, he will have no regret because he is daring and followed through with his best action plan. Infact not the best alone but the ONLY action plan.

But if he had succumbed to his political enemies and picked a Christian vice just because he’s scared of the naysayers, then he will never be peace with himself and will die by that regret.

Like you said Babachir, you can now go and vote for another candidate. It is a democracy, one man one vote.

You have said it all,Tinubu is winning this election.

LegendHero:
If he is not emotionally intelligent, he would have picked a Christian Northerner as vice and people like you would have celebrated his impending loss.

He is bold and audacious, something most of the lily liveried politician will never dare to make.

Currently, the only thing that will stop Tinubu from winning next year election is two things:

—Kwakwanso stepping down for Atiku

—Peter Obi stepping down for Atiku.

If none of the above fail to happen, Tinubu is your next president because he already forgo the Northern Christian votes in his calculation before reaching this conclusion of his. They don’t even vote APC normally before so all this threat is just for aesthetics.

How sure are you that northern Muslims will vote tinubu ? especially the angry governors of the NW.

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FreeStuffsNG:
He is already out of favour with Asiwaju Tinubu support camp since his immature outburst.
The losers can take him.

I swear to God, I know him personally. He’s always immature in his outbursts. He cannot even deliver his Local Government In Adamawa. What this set of people don’t know or refuse to accept his politics is a game of number. And I dare say, that Asiwaju picking a Northern Muslim is a big personal loss to BD LAWAL. Maybe he forgot that we knew the present SGF, was him by extension. Hypocrite! He thought he was going to be the person to nominate the VP for Asiwaju. Ore o dale. Can these people just remember that BAT is surrounded by Christians in his family. That he himself is not even a strong Muslim at all?

Wow!... The best piece I've read in a decade!
So damn on point, unbiased, apt, succinct...

I never knew SANE folks still exist in that part of the country .... Thumbs up babachir lawal, posterity will be kind to you!

Finally, A WORD IS ENOUGH FOR THE WISE.

Salvador1:
This is the same man that signed Tinubu presidential form.

Look at how they are deserting him.

Truly who God wants to destroy... Dey first make him mad.

Tinubu has not pick running mate when they signed the presidential form.

Lifestone:
You've missed the point here, the issue is why will Tinubu chose to be a President for Muslim?

Even if he wins, his Presidency is tainted and he would mostly be distracted for the 4years. In instance of now, shouldn't we be analyzing his planned policies but here we are talking about religion. He caused it.

I don't see how he will ever have rest again even if he wins the Presidency

This is what I have said also (para 2.).
His Presidency will be dogged all the way by religious conflicting of all kinds, in offices, in fields, in government and without, everything will assume religious colouration and governance will suffer.

fergie001:
ejimatic is Christian. On this same forum, I have seen him many times criticise Buhari's lopsided appointments towards his region and religion. Now ask him, what changed now?
Region comes first for him.

. I am a Christian but I have never criticized Buhari on his lopsided appointments in public but I have reservations about them. The reason is that PBM is using the slot of the North. It will end soon. SW will use its turn! When OBJ was there he was subservient to the North because they made him president. What did he do to change the status cope? North is a phenomenum in Nigeria! Anybody who wants to rule in Nigeria and do so successfully must give them attention.Do we have religious crisis in the SW? No! We serve our God whether Muslims or christians. But it is not so in the north! Three is no way christians can be a strong force in the North! People shiukd not use religion to divide us in the SW. Let us support BAT so we can use our slot till 2031.

If lapdogs can force Tinubu to pick a MM ticket, then his government has already been hijacked before time. Nigerians says no to APC and PDP cos voting them is as good as voting for the cabal. God may affliction not rise against Nigeria a second time. Three years into this imaginary govt God forbid, you'll hear some NL saying "I regret voting APC".... God I'm begging you, just shine your light the more upon me and my household when that time comes because we're so innocent.

OldNairalander:
I just want to remind us that this same Babachir Lawal purchased and signed Tinubu's APC presidential nomination form.
Thank you

But remember he also warned tinubu against picking a Muslim - Muslim ticket.....abi ?

Moblux:
Tinubu seems not to be emotionally intelligent in choosing his running mate. How can you not understand your emotions to understand the emotions of others? I guess he is in a rush to be a transactional leader rather than a transformational leader his followers thought him to be.

Oga, Tinubu couldn't have picked a Northern Christian as running mate. That would have be the political mistake of the century.

You do not understand politics and Nigeria more than he does.

Tinubu is more or less a 'Muslim-Christian'. He is a moderate with his faith, hence it is okay to pick Kashim Shettima.

Do you know what it for a Muslim to have a wife who is a Christian and a pastor? How many men would permit that?

Not everyone allows themselves to be drowned in religion.

Coolsperm:
That gift will consume him, cause we Yoruba Christian's will never vote Muslim Muslim ticket, are we fools?

You people will still not have voted him if he chose a Christian. No dey disguise