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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 9:35pm On Jul 12, 2022
Jodera:
Which another Lyon player?
If he's not getting Paqueta, let him just comot eye for that club abeg. No better Midfielders or attacker dey there wey I dey eye again. Bruno G and Paqueta na the only two players I been dey hope make we get
might be their LB. Just saying....
We were in for Vitinha but na Fabio we later signed
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera2: 9:38pm On Jul 12, 2022
Anfieldfan ... Would you call fabinho a DLP or a CDM in you guys 433.

Android17... Would you call Fernandinho a DLP or a CDM/DM during his time at Etihad.
Would you also say Rodri played as a DLP or CDM last season.


I would love to hear you guys humble opinion on this especially as you're the club in question supporter
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera2: 9:39pm On Jul 12, 2022
mostob:
might be their LB. Just saying....
We were in for Vitinha but na Fabio we later signed
Well, make we dey see sha.

Hope we aren't done with signings sha grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by AnfieldFan: 10:13pm On Jul 12, 2022
Jodera2:
Anfieldfan ... Would you call fabinho a DLP or a CDM in you guys 433.

Android17... Would you call Fernandinho a DLP or a CDM/DM during his time at Etihad.
Would you also say Rodri played as a DLP or CDM last season.


I would love to hear you guys humble opinion on this especially as you're the club in question supporter
Fabinho is a CDM...

The Dlp role doesn't describe him, that's not to say he can't pick a pass once in a while because he can, but when he's on the field, he isn't scanning the pitch to pick out Salah or Diaz, rather, he's scanning the pitch to know when to time his run and intercept the opposing team's DM before he(opposing team's Dm) makes a pass or runs with the ball...

Also, because we play a very highline, Fab has to be closer to the opponent's half for the second ball if the press( front line and Cm's) do not win the ball back, so he's more of an outlet for a pass in the opponent's half rather than dictating play from deep...

When we are building out, he functions in the same way, creates an extra passing option in addition to our CB's so as to maintain numerical equality or even superiority in our half while at the same time, drawing out the AM of the other team which leaves space to launch very quick transitions, our transitions are notoriously fast..
Thiago does this more the though, we mainly do this when the press becomes very hot in our half...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Android17: 11:11pm On Jul 12, 2022
Jodera2:
Anfieldfan ... Would you call fabinho a DLP or a CDM in you guys 433.

Android17... Would you call Fernandinho a DLP or a CDM/DM during his time at Etihad.
Would you also say Rodri played as a DLP or CDM last season.


I would love to hear you guys humble opinion on this especially as you're the club in question supporter
In a nutshell, Rodri is a CDM. He has the passing range and IQ of a DLP but City don't lack creativity so Rodri's role is measured in terms of that. There might be 1 or 2 games last season where he played as a DLP but that is his tertiary function.

Fernandinho started out as a box to box midfielder but his role kept adjusting as he aged.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera2: 12:49am On Jul 13, 2022
Thank you Anfield.fan and Andr.oid17 for your thoughts, explanations and contributions. I really appreciate.

So Spy360, you see that at least a Liverpool and Manchester city fan have acknowledged that both Fabinho and Rodri are CDMs in their team with proper explanation. From both explanations, you'll notice that they still have some attacking role to play such as transitioning and build up but that doesn't negate that they're DM carrying out defensive duties.

If you even do a survey on this thread as well as other thread asking the role of Partey's this last season, you'll most likely receive the answer that he's a CDM.

That number 6 role needs someone who have high sense of intelligence in Defensive duties, beating of press and good attack something Odegaard, Xhaka Or Tielemans lack
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 11:15am On Jul 13, 2022
Are we done with transfer?
Wetin they occur na

Roland17 that guy still they hoard training pictures, he deserves better beating angry angry
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera2: 11:55am On Jul 13, 2022
iamoyindamola:
Are we done with transfer?
Wetin they occur na


Roland17 that guy still they hoard training pictures, he deserves better beating angry angry
Na wetin I been dey ask Most.ob earlier oo. Hope say we never close shop for transfer laidis grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 12:06pm On Jul 13, 2022
Jodera2:
Na wetin I been dey ask Most.ob earlier oo. Hope say we never close shop for transfer laidis grin
Na to drink water be that nau grin grin
Maybe money dan finish
But we get 2m change from 100m na
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera2: 12:09pm On Jul 13, 2022
iamoyindamola:
Na to drink water be that nau grin grin
Maybe money dan finish
But we get 2m change from 100m na
Lol, or maybe dem wan spring us another Viera surprise again
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 12:12pm On Jul 13, 2022
Jodera2:
Lol, or maybe dem wan spring us another Viera surprise again
I read torreira is going to roma instead of xhaka
They werey way suppose they update us with pictures just they do anyhow
I also read saliba is on verge of extending his contract, we are off martinez matter as ajax are looking for highest bidders
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkforyou(m): 12:15pm On Jul 13, 2022
Jodera:
Lol, I no even remember sef.

That's one of the thing I even enjoy this thread well. We might argue, debate and always have contrasting opinions/ideas but hardly you'll see bitter name-calling or e-fight.

Na real matured minds dey here
This thread was not like this, 3-4 years back. grin
Oyindamola used to abbreviate when typing , and was short tempered. grin

Spy was a softie that would lose focus when having an important argument immediately a chic steps into the thread.

But now, Omo!!! This thread dey give me joy these days.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera2: 12:21pm On Jul 13, 2022
iamoyindamola:
I read torreira is going to roma instead of xhaka
They werey way suppose they update us with pictures just they do anyhow
I also read saliba is on verge of extending his contract, we are off martinez matter as ajax are looking for highest bidders
Lol, you still dey get hope say Xhaka go leave before Torreira. I mean both are like light and day. Torreira wants to leave while Xhaka now wants to stay. Plus e be like say Arteta just like Xhaka normally. As for me, the only way Xhaka won't see shirt is if arsenal buys someone to bench him.

Yeah, I also read that Saliba wants to extend his deal plus he's been given a new number (no.2). I don't know about Grimaldo but if he's good let's get him. And if we can get one more winger or Midfielder it'll be better. But I'll personally prefer winger. Loan or sell all of Pepe, Nelson and Niles. Give more game time to Partino and Sambi to play the number 8 role
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera2: 12:29pm On Jul 13, 2022
Fkforyou:
This thread was not like this, 3-4 years back. grin
Oyindamola used to abbreviate when typing , and was short tempered. grin

Spy was a softie that would lose focus when having an important argument immediately a chic steps into the thread.

But now, Omo!!! This thread dey give me joy these days.
grin grin cheesy
This one funny me grin

Spy na true?? grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 12:38pm On Jul 13, 2022
Jodera2:
Oh now. Not only is Arteta not using Partey as DM role but it's now a FB that's playing our DM role? Interesting!!
Like Tierney or Tomiyasu acting as a DM? Wow!!... Real wow!!

In all my knowledge of football, I've never seen a DLP acting as an anchor.

This and many more of the reasons is why we can never ever agree on this issue. I'm just seeing new weird stuff everyday cheesy
I beg your indulgence. Please have you read on total football which I recommended?
Because if you have you will not make the bolded at all.

New stuff? Lol. Don't tell me you are watching football of the cave men. Lol.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 12:46pm On Jul 13, 2022
Jodera2:
Lol, you still dey get hope say Xhaka go leave before Torreira. I mean both are like light and day. Torreira wants to leave while Xhaka now wants to stay. Plus e be like say Arteta just like Xhaka normally. As for me, the only way Xhaka won't see shirt is if arsenal buys someone to bench him.

Yeah, I also read that Saliba wants to extend his deal plus he's been given a new number (no.2). I don't know about Grimaldo but if he's good let's get him. And if we can get one more winger or Midfielder it'll be better. But I'll personally prefer winger. Loan or sell all of Pepe, Nelson and Niles. Give more game time to Partino and Sambi to play the number 8 role
Grimaldo is good have good service i just felt regulion is better
Yeah saliba for no2 shame on bellerin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 12:49pm On Jul 13, 2022
Fkforyou:
This thread was not like this, 3-4 years back. grin
Oyindamola used to abbreviate when typing , and was short tempered. grin

Spy was a softie that would lose focus when having an important argument immediately a chic steps into the thread.

But now, Omo!!! This thread dey give me joy these days.
Boss people change, about the abbreviation i hate that thing like anything
Facebook did some throwbacks for me and i was wondering is this me abbreviating like this
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 12:51pm On Jul 13, 2022
Jodera2:
grin grin cheesy
This one funny me grin

Spy na true?? grin
This i can testify very true
Na why e they follow that mumu ndidi oldie
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 12:55pm On Jul 13, 2022
Jodera2:
Thank you Anfield.fan and Andr.oid17 for your thoughts, explanations and contributions. I really appreciate.

So Spy360, you see that at least a Liverpool and Manchester city fan have acknowledged that both Fabinho and Rodri are CDMs in their team with proper explanation. From both explanations, you'll notice that they still have some attacking role to play such as transitioning and build up but that doesn't negate that they're DM carrying out defensive duties.

If you even do a survey on this thread as well as other thread asking the role of Partey's this last season, you'll most likely receive the answer that he's a CDM.

That number 6 role needs someone who have high sense of intelligence in Defensive duties, beating of press and good attack something Odegaard, Xhaka Or Tielemans lack
It's interesting how you moved from DM to CDM. However you are still a bit far from the point. Take away that D and you are there. Why? Someone who both of us say performs both attacking and defensive roles shouldn't have a D to his position. It's simply CM.

In regards to what Anfieldfan and Android17 explained (which are correct) they are saying the same things with me, but they refuse to take away that same D which is making their point meaningless. Check my response to their posts for details.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 1:00pm On Jul 13, 2022
Android17:
In a nutshell, Rodri is a CDM. He has the passing range and IQ of a DLP but City don't lack creativity so Rodri's role is measured in terms of that. There might be 1 or 2 games last season where he played as a DLP but that is his tertiary function.

Fernandinho started out as a box to box midfielder but his role kept adjusting as he aged.
Beloved Jodera, how does this makes my argument nothing? He is spot on except for that D in CDM. He could have easily said DM so why say CDM? Besides someone with the passing and IQ of a DLP is what he is no need to paint.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 1:04pm On Jul 13, 2022
AnfieldFan:
Fabinho is a CDM...

The Dlp role doesn't describe him, that's not to say he can't pick a pass once in a while because he can, but when he's on the field, he isn't scanning the pitch to pick out Salah or Diaz, rather, he's scanning the pitch to know when to time his run and intercept the opposing team's DM before he(opposing team's Dm) makes a pass or runs with the ball...

Also, because we play a very highline, Fab has to be closer to the opponent's half for the second ball if the press( front line and Cm's) do not win the ball back, so he's more of an outlet for a pass in the opponent's half rather than dictating play from deep...

When we are building out, he functions in the same way, creates an extra passing option in addition to our CB's so as to maintain numerical equality or even superiority in our half while at the same time, drawing out the AM of the other team which leaves space to launch very quick transitions, our transitions are notoriously fast..
Thiago does this more the though, we mainly do this when the press becomes very hot in our half...
The bolded is simply the job of a DLP, so why say he is not? A DLP is seen in the buildout not when the entire team is defending or pressing.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 1:13pm On Jul 13, 2022
Jodera2:
grin grin cheesy
This one funny me grin

Spy na true?? grin

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkforyou(m): 1:15pm On Jul 13, 2022
iamoyindamola:
Boss people change, about the abbreviation i hate that thing like anything
Facebook did some throwbacks for me and i was wondering is this me abbreviating like this
Thank God for growth brother, Thank God.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 1:21pm On Jul 13, 2022
[quote author=Spy360 post=114692976][/quote]Deny na i they here angry angry
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera2: 2:20pm On Jul 13, 2022
iamoyindamola:
This i can testify very true
Na why e they follow that mumu ndidi oldie
grin grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera2: 2:32pm On Jul 13, 2022
Spy360:
I beg your indulgence. Please have you read on total football which I recommended?
Because if you have you will not make the bolded at all.

New stuff? Lol. Don't tell me you are watching football of the cave men. Lol.
Total football? There's a reason why I don't want to talk about it cos it might make us digress from what we're talking about.

Almost all elite coaches presently uses total football. In fact, that's what is in vogue presently. Example — A striker dropping deep and acting as a Midfielder. A FB attacking high and playing as a winger. A winger playing Infield to score like a striker. Defence pushing upfield to play like Midfielders.

In a nutshell that's what total football is. But then, does that stops a defender being a defender or an attacker being an attacker.

Trent and Robertson have high assists and attack the box more. Does that stops them from being fullbacks?
Fabinho and Van dijk that sometimes covers for Arnold and Robertson when a counter attack wants to surface through their side, does that now makes fabinho and Van dijk a FB?

You see why I was always mute on that total football ish?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera2: 2:49pm On Jul 13, 2022
Spy360:
It's interesting how you moved from DM to CDM. However you are still a bit far from the point. Take away that D and you are there. Why? Someone who both of us say performs both attacking and defensive roles shouldn't have a D to his position. It's simply CM.

In regards to what Anfieldfan and Android17 explained (which are correct) they are saying the same things with me, but they refuse to take away that same D which is making their point meaningless. Check my response to their posts for details.
Lol... Moved where? This is me saying CDM/DM even from our very first day we started this discussion
Jodera:
.
If he's bought for anything other than CDM/DM, then he's welcome
Moreover, is a CDM not a DM? Central defensive midfielder. That is a DM that has all the zones to himself and isn't sharing his zone with anyone.

Odegaard and Xhaka are CM/AM but because they share one zone, then they'll be termed RCM/RAM (for Odegaard) and LCM (for Xhaka). With the R and L respectively meant right and left(just as C is for the central). It's the reason why you'll hardly see Odegaard at the left part of the pitch or Xhaka at the right part.

So boss, just know that CDM and DM means same thing. The C there is just the zone they occupy and nothing more
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera2: 3:03pm On Jul 13, 2022
Spy360:
Beloved Jodera, how does this makes my argument nothing? He is spot on except for that D in CDM. He could have easily said DM so why say CDM? Besides someone with the passing and IQ of a DLP is what he is no need to paint.
I see you don't really know that they meant the same thing. Lol.
This is funny sha.

Moreover, I saw how you subtly ignore how Android said Rodri is measured in terms of his DM role because City doesn't lack creativity even though he does the transitioning. That transitioning he does is his secondary role as his job is just to ensure the ball reaches his advanced Midfielders who are known for their creativity. His main job is just to ensure that any breakaway after beating their forward press by the opposition, he's on hand to mitigate or stop it.

You slyly ignored that and pounced on the secondary role he normally does to just label him a DLP.

Kudos to you! grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 3:11pm On Jul 13, 2022
Jodera2:
Na wetin I been dey ask Most.ob earlier oo. Hope say we never close shop for transfer laidis grin
I heard Edu is cooking but he don lock the door as per say our noisy neighbors (Spurs and Chelsea) dey do copy copy stuff.
Tieleman probably..


Bro, feel free to quote me. Remove the dot next time grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera2: 3:11pm On Jul 13, 2022
Spy360:
The bolded is simply the job of a DLP, so why say he is not? A DLP is seen in the buildout not when the entire team is defending or pressing.
Are you not seeing that he explained it as Fabinho secondary role? How could you ignore the primary role that An.field fan explain in the first paragraph just to pick on the secondary role just to name him DLP.

I mean, sometimes even Ben White plays good transition pass from defence to our attackers both short and long ones. Does that makes him DLP too? On many occasions I've seen Ramsdale given straight passes both long and short to Lacazette and Saka in Midfield and it was accurate. Is Ramsdale a DLP too?

Come on na Spy
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 3:11pm On Jul 13, 2022
iamoyindamola:
Na to drink water be that nau grin grin
Maybe money dan finish
But we get 2m change from 100m na
Be like Edu and Arteta stole the wrong credit card. grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera2: 3:14pm On Jul 13, 2022
[quote author=Spy360 post=114692976][/quote]Lol .. You're guilty as charged na. You don get 2 verified accusers grin
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