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mostob:
I heard Edu is cooking but he don lock the door as per say our noisy neighbors (Spurs and Chelsea) dey do copy copy stuff.
Tieleman probably..


Bro, feel free to quote me. Remove the dot next time

iamoyindamola:
Deny na i they here

Jodera2:
Total football? There's a reason why I don't want to talk about it cos it might make us digress from what we're talking about.

Almost all elite coaches presently uses total football. In fact, that's what is in vogue presently. Example — A striker dropping deep and acting as a Midfielder. A FB attacking high and playing as a winger. A winger playing Infield to score like a striker. Defence pushing upfield to play like Midfielders.

In a nutshell that's what total football is. But then, does that stops a defender being a defender or an attacker being an attacker.

Trent and Robertson have high assists and attack the box more. Does that stops them from being fullbacks?
Fabinho and Van dijk that sometimes covers for Arnold and Robertson when a counter attack wants to surface through their side, does that now makes fabinho and Van dijk a FB?

You see why I was always mute on that total football ish?

iamoyindamola:
I read torreira is going to roma instead of xhaka
They werey way suppose they update us with pictures just they do anyhow
I also read saliba is on verge of extending his contract, we are off martinez matter as ajax are looking for highest bidders

Jodera2:
Lol, make him food don fast oo, guys don dey hungry again. Cos the way other team's food dey scent, I don dey jealous


Lol, no mind me about the dot. I no wan unnecessarily give you mention cos I know say one way or the other you go still read am

Spy360:
You don forget Angel Chelsea fan wey almost make you dump Arsenal? You sense only come correct when she break your heart.

mostob:
Patino and Omari are the notable absentees as Arsenal jet out to US.
However, Walters made the list. Partey and Saliba also included.

mostob:
Be like Edu and Arteta stole the wrong credit card.

Jodera2:
Lol... Moved where? This is me saying CDM/DM even from our very first day we started this discussion

Moreover, is a CDM not a DM? Central defensive midfielder. That is a DM that has all the zones to himself and isn't sharing his zone with anyone.

Odegaard and Xhaka are CM/AM but because they share one zone, then they'll be termed RCM/RAM (for Odegaard) and LCM (for Xhaka). With the R and L respectively meant right and left(just as C is for the central). It's the reason why you'll hardly see Odegaard at the left part of the pitch or Xhaka at the right part.

So boss, just know that CDM and DM means same thing. The C there is just the zone they occupy and nothing more

Jodera2:
Are you not seeing that he explained it as Fabinho secondary role? How could you ignore the primary role that An.field fan explain in the first paragraph just to pick on the secondary role just to name him DLP.

I mean, sometimes even Ben White plays good transition pass from defence to our attackers both short and long ones. Does that makes him DLP too? On many occasions I've seen Ramsdale given straight passes both long and short to Lacazette and Saka in Midfield and it was accurate. Is Ramsdale a DLP too?

Come on na Spy

iamoyindamola:
Are you sure partey travelled

mostob:
Jodera and spy

This your argument ehn...
But there is one thing you guys are not taking into context here.... Skillset

Ndidi,Partey and Kante are DMs but all have different skillsets.
Arteta once play as a DM for us due to how good he was because of his ball distribution but guess what...our midfied always get overrun. Partey is a DM... However, his ability to pick out passes, hold the ball and distribute efficiently is what make him suitable for Arsenal.
Lokonga can distribute the ball but there is a reason he can't play that Partey role which is because his size and weight is too small

Partey I playing as a DM for us...Ndidi and Kante are good DMs too but they may not be suitable for Arsenal because they don't bring what Partey offers for us.
Partey is our DM

iamoyindamola:
Abi after signing jesus, kroneke believe rapture is close by

iamoyindamola:
I dan forget

mostob:
Or he probably thought the 12 disciples na follow come so no need to overbloat the squad.

Spy360:
What does Partey bring for us that Kante cannot?

mostob:
Kante is a roaming DM. Not the type that will collect the ball from the GK and start spraying passes. His job is just to run around tackling and intercepting. That is why Jorginho complement him so well.

Ndidi on the other hand doesn't roam like Kante, he will sit back and cover up for overlapping FBs. He do make himself available for passes but rarely will you see him slide in a through pass for Vardy or any of their forwards. He sometimes do (especially for Nacho) but not as efficient as Partey.

Kante in Arsenal will probably be paired with Xhaka as he can't stand alone as a DM.

Ndidi in Arsenal will enable us play ESR and Odegaard as a double 8s.

Spy360:
Very correct.

So what does Partey do for Arsenal that is different from other known DMs like you mentioned Ndidi and Kante?

mostob:
Jodera and spy

This your argument ehn...
But there is one thing you guys are not taking into context here.... Skillset

Ndidi,Partey and Kante are DMs but all have different skillsets.
Arteta once play as a DM for us due to how good he was because of his ball distribution but guess what...our midfied always get overrun. Partey is a DM... However, his ability to pick out passes, hold the ball and distribute efficiently is what make him suitable for Arsenal.
Lokonga can distribute the ball but there is a reason he can't play that Partey role which is because his size and weight is too small

Partey I playing as a DM for us...Ndidi and Kante are good DMs too but they may not be suitable for Arsenal because they don't bring what Partey offers for us.
Partey is our DM

Spy360:
So why did you act surprised when I said FBs can play infield to cover DM. AMN did exactly that role in our FA cup win run. Xhaka often covers FB when Tierney pushes forward.

It is about time you apologize.

mostob:
I'm telling you...
Chelsea don sign Kuli and Raimi. They are going for Ake already.
Tottenham sef nor serious... immediately we paused, they paused too...

Spy360:
RCM and LCM means waiting fa? Right Central ... What does that mean? You can say LAM or RAM not RCM please. C in CAM means central and that implies the middle of the pitch. But C in CM means one that performs both attacking and defending duties. Which we have both agreed Partey does for Arsenal. We may have known him to be a DM but is that what he is doing for Arsenal? If he does defensive duties alone, one can say he is a DM. But if he does both defensive and attacking duties then he is more than a DM, he is a CM.

Spy360:
I don't get this secondary role stuff. There are two phases in a game. The attacking and the defending phases. When attacking the whole team is, so also when defending the whole team is. Can a CDM as you put it be defending when his team is attacking? Android 17 simply explained their roles when attacking and when defending. Nothing like primary and secondary roles.

iamoyindamola:
I just remembered sef
Na thunder go strike mari Aje
I watched highlight of that nurmberg match the werey was not conscious of his surroundings passes just they enter anyhow with little or no pressure
Juventus should buy him instead

iamoyindamola:
Juve offering rabiot(permanent) and athur melo(loan) for gabu malganese

mostob:
Ball distribution and his ability to create as well. His assist for Laca last season (you should remember) and recently, the friendly at London colney when he gave a through pass to Nketiah are perfect examples. That's why he is suitable for Arsenal because Kante and Ndidi can't offer such skillset.

Jodera2:
Thank you.
The thing is, it's the skillset that matters reason why I won't go for Ndidi or Kante to replace Partey in that lone DM role even though they're all DMs. The thing be say Spy no wan even agree say Partey, Rodri and Fabinho are all DMs and that DM roles have evolved. He's thinking DM is solely defined as dem Makalele dem— just tackling and winning balls. Finish.

And that's where he's wrong.

Jodera2:
So in that case Tierney was a winger while Xhaka was a FB?