openmine:

Omoh Na Everton ohh
Even Manutd will jubilate as if they won a title if they beat man city
During the covid19 season when Everton beat LFC at anfield with no crowd,they celebrated the win with champagne in their dressing room!
Even arsenal celebrated joyously when they won Chelsea at Stanford bridge last season!
Even PlayStation PES will make Everton strong like man city when they play Liverpool
Well different strokes for different folks!
I am suspecting he made a bet that's why he is overly paranoid with d loss!

Lol, e fit be say him no bet sef. Na just vex for Man u flogging him dey see. Him think say na normal rivalry match

Personally, it's only him I see that's even angry with that loss. No Liverpool fan I know offline is even angry about it. No one online too

CAPdan21:

Everton rivalry is the fiercer rivalry Sha...The reason many think is not fierce now it's cuz Everton have not won anything reasonable for a long time so the tension exist mostly before, during and aftermath of derby days...The rivalry with man utd is based on both the strength of the two teams as the two most successful clubs in England as well as cultural as the people of Liverpool (scousers) do not see themselves as English but scouse, in that way it's not really different from Barca (Catalonia) and Madrid...That being said, even if man utd fails to win anything for 50 years the rivalry would still be fierce, just see the rivalry b/w Leeds and utd which is not half as fierce as that with Liverpool and the vitriol when the two clubs met in Epl after close to 15 yrs...

Thank you very much.

You put everything perfectly well. Nothing to add!

Jodera:
Lol, I'm not a Liverpool fan.

As for the question, it's the history, the environment and the domestic fans(especially both fans in that region). That is the rivalry.

I'm an arsenal fan and I know what a Derby means. Arsenal fans especially in England will prefer for Chelsea to beat us or even Fulham but never ever tottenham. Same thing with tottenham. No matter the poor form we have, never ever tottenham.
I follow football, their fans and also their forums(esp the int'l club fora) and if you do, you'll know that the way you're underestimating Liverpool -Everton rivalry no suppose be so. Same way it is for Madrid/athletico rivalry. It might not be worldwide but within them and the domestic fans and players, they take very very personal

And also there's difference between derby and rivalries. Nothing concern rivalry with arsenal and west ham or Fulham even though they're all London clubs

In other words, you prefer to lose to Chelsea and beat Tottenham and lose a trophy than to beat Chelsea and lose to Tottenham and win a trophy because of history, environment and domestic fans? These things are better than trophies and titles?

mikuz:


In other words, you prefer to lose to Chelsea and beat Tottenham and lose a trophy than to beat Chelsea and lose to Tottenham and win a trophy because of history, environment and domestic fans? These things are better than trophies and titles?

Lol... Nothing equates to trophies, so that comparison doesn't match. But if they're to lose any match between the two, Even the players will know losing against tottenham is not an option.

Moreover, I'm not personally talking about me but the domestic fans who carry it personal and which in turn create the tension for the players to find themselves in such situation. They're the one that creates the atmosphere for that rivalry to thrive

See Richarlison, he 'hates' Liverpool. On many occasions he had tried infuriating them their fans and even on pitch. He even joked about it that it's because of the culture and how Evertonian fans have dislike for Liverpool fans.

Do you know that there's a day called St Totteringham's day that arsenal fans in England always celebrate? A day in which it's mathematically impossible for tottenham to finish above arsenal.

Me and you residing in Nigeria ( or any part of the world not England) might not know the full impact on that rivalry because we are faraway, but the players and fans knows how hot and heated it's always before the match. If you're really following int'l forums of your club, you'll know all these things I'm saying.

mikuz:


Underdogs will always celebrate when they win. We all saw how Aston Villa celebrated when they beat us. So you expect Chelsea to celebrate and pop champagne when they beat Fulham?

Not necessarily!
Its been a while since they beat us esp at anfield and a rare victory was worthy celebrating so I can understand not because of their underdog status according to you!
When it comes to Arch rival games,there are no underdogs....last two seasons,Man city had better players than manutd and were on fire yet manutd beat them home and away...Chelsea last season were far better than arsenal but when they met at Stanford bridge, arsenal beat them.... There are no small games when it comes to rivalry esp neighbours!
I would be happy and elated if we did a double against Everton because they are our next door neighbours plus consistent bragging rights!

Jodera:
Lol... Nothing equates to trophies, so that comparison doesn't match. But if they're to lose any match between the two, Even the players will know losing against tottenham is not an option.

Moreover, I'm not personally talking about me but the domestic fans who carry it personal and which in turn create the tension for the players to find themselves in such situation. They're the one that creates the atmosphere for that rivalry to thrive

See Richarlison, he 'hates' Liverpool. On many occasions he had tried infuriating them their fans and even on pitch. He even joked about it that it's because of the culture and how Evertonian fans have dislike for Liverpool fans.

Do you know that there's a day called St Totteringham's day that arsenal fans in England always celebrate? A day in which it's mathematically impossible for tottenham to finish above arsenal.

Me and you residing in Nigeria ( or any part of the world not England) might not know the full impact on that rivalry because we are faraway, but the players and fans knows how hot and heated it's always before the match. If you're really following int'l forums of your club, you'll know all these things I'm saying.

U r absolutely right!
A loss to manutd will not be as painful as the loss to Everton!

Jodera:
Lol... Nothing equates to trophies, so that comparison doesn't match. But if they're to lose any match between the two, Even the players will know losing against tottenham is not an option.

Moreover, I'm not personally talking about me but the domestic fans who carry it personal and which in turn create the tension for the players to find themselves in such situation. They're the one that creates the atmosphere for that rivalry to thrive

See Richarlison, he 'hates' Liverpool. On many occasions he had tried infuriating them their fans and even on pitch. He even joked about it that it's because of the culture and how Evertonian fans have dislike for Liverpool fans.

Do you know that there's a day called St Totteringham's day that arsenal fans in England always celebrate? A day in which it's mathematically impossible for tottenham to finish above arsenal.

Me and you residing in Nigeria ( or any part of the world not England) might not know the full impact on that rivalry because we are faraway, but the players and fans knows how hot and heated it's always before the match. If you're really following int'l forums of your club, you'll know all these things I'm saying.

You have proved my point - trophies!!!!
Trophies are the bedrock of rivalries. You can not talk about the rivalries without bringing trophies into play. When judging the fierceness of rivalries the first thing that is considered is trophies before history, environment and domestic fans. Just like you rightly said Nothing equates to trophies, meaning trophies over history. That's why you prefer to throw away history and environment and lose to Tottenham in order to beat Chelsea and win a trophy. Liverpool v Man Utd will always be bigger than Liverpool v Everton because of the trophies between them and not because of history. Liverpool will always want to beat Man Utd to prove a point while Man Utd will always want to be beat Liverpool no matter what, that's what drives fierce. Why would Liverpool desire to beat Everton over Man Utd whom they know that losing to them might give them the opportunity of winning the league and increasing their trophy gap? Liverpool will always want to win to equal Man Utd's record while Man Utd will always want to win to maintain the record. That's what rivalry is all about. That's what drives history. Why would I worry about beating Everton who almost got relegated than winning the league? If Man Utd beat me, it's going to increase their chances of winning the league and extending the gap, if Everton beat us they are still where they are, so why should care about losing to them. I don't how else I can explain football rivalry to you.

These statements you are making about Liverpool v Everton being fierce is false and baseless. Go and read about "Merseyside Derby" on Wikipedia. The derby is even nicknamed THE FRIENDLY DERBY. what does that tell you?

openmine:

U r absolutely right!
A loss to manutd will not be as painful as the loss to Everton!

Because of history, environment and domestic fans.

Someone is telling me that Liverpool v Everton is the biggest Liverpool game in the premier league.
I'm dreaming.

Gary Neville openly claimed he hated Liverpool. He's the current captain of Everton.

mikuz:


You have proved my point - trophies!!!!
Trophies are the bedrock of rivalries. You can not talk about the rivalries without bringing trophies into play. When judging the fierceness of rivalries the first thing that is considered is trophies before history, environment and domestic fans. Just like you rightly said Nothing equates to trophies, meaning trophies over history. That's why you prefer to throw away history and environment and lose to Tottenham in order to beat Chelsea and win a trophy. Liverpool v Man Utd will always be bigger than Liverpool v Everton because of the trophies between them and not because of history. Liverpool will always want to beat Man Utd to prove a point while Man Utd will always want to be beat Liverpool no matter what, that's what drives fierce. Why would Liverpool desire to beat Everton over Man Utd whom they know that losing to them might give them the opportunity of winning the league and increasing their trophy gap? Liverpool will always want to win to equal Man Utd's record while Man Utd will always want to win to maintain the record. That's what rivalry is all about. That's what drives history. Why would I worry about beating Everton who almost got relegated than winning the league? If Man Utd beat me, it's going to increase their chances of winning the league and extending the gap, if Everton beat us they are still where they are, so why should care about losing to them. I don't how else I can explain football rivalry to you.

These statements you are making about Liverpool v Everton being fierce is false and baseless. Go and read about "Merseyside Derby" on Wikipedia. The derby is even nicknamed THE FRIENDLY DERBY. what does that tell you?

Lol, well you're not getting it but let's leave it as that.

mikuz:


Because of history, environment and domestic fans.

Different strokes for different folks bro!
One man's delicacy another man's poison!

mikuz:
Someone is telling me that Liverpool v Everton is the biggest Liverpool game in the premier league.
I'm dreaming.

That's your choice...some may feel that way but I can tell you for a fact that the average LFC fans that's in the majority and reside in Liverpool city rate their derby games as a priority win for LFC players and coaches!
In fact LFC fans rates their managers both present and former based on their performance in derby games!

openmine:

Not necessarily!
Its been a while since they beat us esp at anfield and a rare victory was worthy celebrating so I can understand not because of their underdog status according to you!
When it comes to Arch rival games,there are no underdogs....last two seasons,Man city had better players than manutd and were on fire yet manutd beat them home and away...Chelsea last season were far better than arsenal but when they met at Stanford bridge, arsenal beat them.... There are no small games when it comes to rivalry esp neighbours!
I would be happy and elated if we did a double against Everton because they are our next door neighbours plus consistent bragging rights!

I don't see the rivalry you guys are talking about here. Wikipedia already rubbished all that by calling it THE FRIENDLY DERBY.

mikuz:


I don't see the rivalry you guys are talking about here. Wikipedia already rubbished all that by calling it THE FRIENDLY DERBY.

So wikipedia will tell you what Merseyside derby rivalry means between two soccer neighbors?
Why not make your inquires on social media in an LFC group based in UK and you will see the results!

openmine:


So wikipedia will tell you what Merseyside derby rivalry means between two soccer neighbors?
Why not make your inquires on social media in an LFC group in based in UK and you will see the results!

I mean, it's is simple.

No be everything Wikipedia dey tell person. Follow up on fans, players and all will tell the real story

Jodera:
I mean, it's is simple.

No be everything Wikipedia dey tell person. Follow up on fans, players and all will tell the real story

Walahi i tire ohh
I am even shocked that he is relying on wiki to tell him about Merseyside derby...!

openmine:

Walahi i tire ohh
I am even shocked that he is relying on wiki to tell him about Merseyside derby...!

Lol... What a day!

Una even get strength sef. Give Man U Bayern in pre-season, and watch Man U beat them like 3-1. Make them meet for UCL first, and bayern will gladly return the favour.

Na now I even read the back pages...So person really start to lament and cry on top pre season friendly again...Nawao

When dey talk shiit about Nunez,show them this failed haaland comp,make we use agenda roll for mud together

https://twitter.com/sk_rimmer/status/1548021793406865409?t=ha7f62a7TdH6ix7Y42vpOA&s=19

I hope this boy is not taking the cruise,trolling,bantzz,agenda on twitter and social media serious cos what is this ,I'm happy he doesn't understand English atm for this reason, if not baba fit burst tears cos omo ...

Kloppo:
When dey talk shiit about Nunez,show them this failed haaland comp,make we use agenda roll for mud together

https://twitter.com/sk_rimmer/status/1548021793406865409?t=ha7f62a7TdH6ix7Y42vpOA&s=19

omoh no need... most people wey dey troll now know say Dem go see trolling when season start so allow them, most of them na man utd fans sef... season nor far again

CAPdan21:

omoh no need... most people wey dey troll now know say Dem go see trolling when season start so allow them, most of them na man utd fans sef... season nor far again

I know na ,Na only city fit troll wey I go engage,others Na gbef and ozeba players dem get, so no need....

mikuz:


I don't see the rivalry you guys are talking about here. Wikipedia already rubbished all that by calling it THE FRIENDLY DERBY.

Why it's called the friendly derby is because in a family of scousers you can have a red and a blue and in games both are often sat together.
It is not divided by politics, religion or anything but it doesn't stop it from being fierce. That game ended our season in 2020/21 because of Van Dijk injury and Thiago injury.
We lost the league in 2018/19 against Everton.
I didn't hate Everton before but now I really despise them like I do United. The Everton vs Lfc game was huge then when Everton and Liverpool were big clubs and competed against each other for English titles.

Minemrys:

Why it's called the friendly derby is because in a family of scousers you can have a red and a blue and in games both are often sat together.
It is not divided by politics, religion or anything but it doesn't stop it from being fierce. That game ended our season in 2020/21 because of Van Dijk injury and Thiago injury.
We lost the league in 2018/19 against Everton.
I didn't hate Everton before but now I really despise them like I do United. The Everton vs Lfc game was huge then when Everton and Liverpool were big clubs and competed against each other for English titles.

We lost the league in 2019 because of Everton. What tha?
E be like I go leave this thread for una because the kind things I dey read here every dey turn my stomach.
Man City won the league 2 seasons ago while losing home and away to Man Utd.

Man Utd were busy celebrating beating City while City were celebrating running away with the title because no sensible club places priority on winning senseless derbies wins over winning the league.

What is Everton? Why should I care about beating a team that almost got relegated last season? What bragging rights are you guys talking about? Man City is turning the EPL to a monopoly but Everton is more important

This is laughable really

mikuz:


We lost the league in 2019 because of Everton. What tha?
E be like I go leave this thread for una because the kind things I dey read here every dey turn my stomach.
Man City won the league 2 seasons ago while losing home and away to Man Utd.

Man Utd were busy celebrating beating City while City were celebrating running away with the title because no sensible club places priority on winning senseless derbies wins over winning the league.

What is Everton? Why should I care about beating a team that almost got relegated last season? What bragging rights are you guys talking about? Man City is turning the EPL to a monopoly but Everton is more important

Everton nobi team again na... Liverpool should have priorities

mikuz:


We lost the league in 2019 because of Everton. What tha?
E be like I go leave this thread for una because the kind things I dey read here every dey turn my stomach.
Man City won the league 2 seasons ago while losing home and away to Man Utd.

Man Utd were busy celebrating beating City while City were celebrating running away with the title because no sensible club places priority on winning senseless derbies wins over winning the league.

What is Everton? Why should I care about beating a team that almost got relegated last season? What bragging rights are you guys talking about? Man City is turning the EPL to a monopoly but Everton is more important

Oga, I don't have time for argument. Everton was the last draw we had in 2018/19 if we had won that game as you claim it was inconsequential, we would have won the league. Since Klopp became manager we won Everton back to back in the league just last season. And you saw how difficult that was.

Minemrys:

Oga, I don't have time for argument. Everton was the last draw we had in 2018/19 if we had won that game as you claim it was inconsequential, we would have won the league. Since Klopp became manager we won Everton back to back in the league just last season. And you saw how difficult that was.

If if if if if . . . We could have won the league last season if we had beaten Man City at Anfield going by your logic. You cannot tie your success in the league to a particular team. You can lose against your greatest rivals and still win the league! Winning the league is ultimate.

CockAndBullStor:
This is laughable really

I hope say them no scam us

BlaqFaze:
Everton nobi team again na... Liverpool should have priorities

Exactly my point, What is Everton?