mikuz:


They will meet in the league again, let's see how Arsenal will beat Chelsea by 4 - 0.

Lol... I never knew football is mathematics

Spy360:

My friend Jodera, what you put up there is too petty for your smartness. Look for other reasons or explanations and not that clubs don't have quality CBs on their benches.

Like I said earlier, assuming Rob Holding was left footed, I wouldn't mind. But he is not. Even Mari is preferable for this reason. In fact if we can't get a new CB, we can still do away with Holding. Like you said in the bolded, he will only warm the bench. So what's the need?

But it's true na. Clubs don't have 2 quality CBs at their bench.

Moreover, backup CBs don't need to be different legs. In fact, Pep that is mostly crazed about it still used pairing of Stones and Dias for most part of 2020/21 season when Laporte (an Lcb) got injured. Like I said, if most teams have 3 quality CBs and very 4 will be excessive especially as even White/Saliba might be seeing cameo roles except group stage Europa.

As for the bolded, we need someone like Holding who is a good squad player and wouldn't complain for squad depth. It's somehow talking about 4th CB when we're still looking for Saka deputy and another Midfielder. No be say we get defensive issues sef

Jodera:
Lol... I never knew football is mathematics

It's not, this match will serve as a pointer. E go help us make permutations to hit 3/3

A long but very interesting read about Arsenal's vision and future


Big-money flops were ‘killing’ Arsenal, admits Edu as he aims for a Champions League return

Edu will discover soon if he really did read the runes. The technical director told Mikel Arteta and the Arsenal board a couple of years back: ‘Guys, 2022-23 will be the season we are going to be much better.’

Edu’s forecast formed part of a new, five-year plan for Arsenal, devised after Unai Emery was sacked in late 2019.

Change, driven alongside Arteta, has been ruthless and expensive and, at times, painful.

‘If a guy is performing and has a big salary, that’s not a problem,’ Edu says. ‘When the player is 26-plus, big salary and he’s not performing, he’s killing you.

‘You don’t have a valuation to sell the player, the player is comfortable — Arsenal, London, beautiful, everything is fantastic — and a good salary. How many players with that kind of characteristics did we have in the past? Eighty per cent of the squad.’
Not any more. On Edu’s watch, around 40 players have been shipped out. Some, including Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang and Mesut Ozil, were paid to leave. Several more will go this summer.
Since last year, 10 outfield players have arrived. None older than 25
‘Try to avoid one more year with the problem in the dressing room,’ Edu says. ‘Take it out. Even if you have to pay because that guy is sometimes blocking someone.’ He considers it an investment
‘How many players in the squad have those characteristics today?’ Edu says. ‘Now, as part of the plan, we create value in our players because I don’t want to face that situation many times more. Now, if someone wants, say, Gabriel — OK, come here. No problem.

‘If we sell Bukayo Saka — that’s not going to happen but it’s just an example — we as a club have to prepare his replacement straight away. Someone has to be in the squad or we have to manage the market well.’

That scenario is not unthinkable, given Saka has yet to agree a new deal amid interest from clubs including Manchester City. ‘It’s normal,’ Edu insists. ‘He’s happy, we’re happy, so it’s just: sit down and find a solution.’

Edu was speaking in Orlando, shortly before Arsenal’s pre-season tour ended with an impressive victory over Chelsea. Oleksandr Zinchenko, their fifth summer signing, made his debut in the 4-0 win.

A club like Arsenal is not building to fight for fourth place, I’m sorry,’ says Edu, 44, who first signed for Arsenal as a player in 2001 before returning to be technical director in 2019. ‘We cannot accept it. That’s why I was really, really hurt when I arrived.

‘I said, ‘That’s not the mentality of this football club. What is happening? Everybody is comfortable, everybody is OK, OK, OK…’ F*** you. ‘OK’? No. I don’t want to lose games.’

Edu adds: ‘I want to see the physios, the masseurs, the scouts, everyone with that kind of feeling: ‘F****** hell, now we are going to really go for things’. And I think we are changing, we are putting good mentality in the squad.’

Last season, Arsenal’s push to return to the Champions League — one year ahead of schedule — fell apart.

‘I felt in some important moments we needed players like those we are signing,’ Edu says. ‘We need a bigger squad with personalities, with some behaviours that say, ‘I will kill someone but I don’t lose the game’.’
Hence why character ranks above all else in Arsenal’s scouting. Winning is now a habit for players like Gabriel Jesus, with whom Edu worked while he was general co-ordinator of Brazil.

‘I said, “Gabriel, I’m here to try to sign you. But not the Gabriel from this season”,’ Edu recalls. ‘You’ve lost your shine’.’ The forward’s reply? ‘You’re right.’

Not everyone can be persuaded. Both Lisandro Martinez and Raphinha went elsewhere this summer and Edu once walked away from a deal after money kept cropping up in talks with a player at Borussia Dortmund. ‘If I smell something wrong — ‘Thank you very much’, I go,’ he says.

Without them, Arsenal’s five-year plan approaches crunch time. They veered on to this new path after Emery left in November 2019. Not long after walking into Arteta’s house, Edu knew he was the perfect fit to be the new boss

‘We had a great relationship straight away,’ he says.

The plan should bear fruit this season. Unfortunately, Arsenal’s top-four rivals are strengthening, too. ‘It is difficult, which is why we have to be realistic. But also, why not? They may be good teams but they are not unbeaten like 2003-04,’ laughs Edu, a member of that Invincibles side.

‘I learned from Arsene Wenger,’ the Brazilian says. ‘He tried to look after you and your family. He was focused on taking care of people.’

Edu’s attempts to emulate Wenger’s on-field success go on.

mikuz:


It's not, this match will serve as a pointer. E go help us make permutations to hit 3/3

Lol... Why don't you use Liverpool Vs Man u?

Jodera:
Lol... Why don't you use Liverpool Vs Man u?

E no go enter, Liverpool will obliterate Man U bros.

mikuz:


E no go enter, Liverpool will obliterate Man U bros.

E mean say you don answer your question be that na

iamoyindamola:

I read Leicester are holding out for a fee way above arsenal pocket for a player with a year left
Also Leicester were hoping there will be a bidding war but as it stands only arsenal are interested and are hoping they can sign him in January if he eventually stay at Leicester because he's not signing extension

Dem no know say we get enough time.to drag out the transfer saga. We fit even winchi dem by later signing him few days to end of the window just to make sure they don't get suitable.replacement.

Na Ndidi I for like make we carry but that his injury scared me sha.

Jodera:
E mean say you don answer your question be that na

Which question bros

BlueRayDick:


It's being said that Tielmans has been waiting for Arsenal to make a bid since April. Obviously he wants to move and Arsenal seem to fancy him, but no offer has been made for him.

I guess Arteta and Edu have other things cooking, they just want to see how it goes before making a move.

Believe me I don't know what to believe again. The only thing I believe right now is what Arteta said openly that the next phase is to let go those he will not be using frequently. I don't know if Tielemans or any other player is coming until announced jare.

I just hope all these news will not give Tielemans some false hope.

Jodera:
A long but very interesting read about Arsenal's vision and future


Big-money flops were ‘killing’ Arsenal, admits Edu as he aims for a Champions League return

Edu will discover soon if he really did read the runes. The technical director told Mikel Arteta and the Arsenal board a couple of years back: ‘Guys, 2022-23 will be the season we are going to be much better.’

Edu’s forecast formed part of a new, five-year plan for Arsenal, devised after Unai Emery was sacked in late 2019.

Change, driven alongside Arteta, has been ruthless and expensive and, at times, painful.

‘If a guy is performing and has a big salary, that’s not a problem,’ Edu says. ‘When the player is 26-plus, big salary and he’s not performing, he’s killing you.

‘You don’t have a valuation to sell the player, the player is comfortable — Arsenal, London, beautiful, everything is fantastic — and a good salary. How many players with that kind of characteristics did we have in the past? Eighty per cent of the squad.’
Not any more. On Edu’s watch, around 40 players have been shipped out. Some, including Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang and Mesut Ozil, were paid to leave. Several more will go this summer.
Since last year, 10 outfield players have arrived. None older than 25
‘Try to avoid one more year with the problem in the dressing room,’ Edu says. ‘Take it out. Even if you have to pay because that guy is sometimes blocking someone.’ He considers it an investment
‘How many players in the squad have those characteristics today?’ Edu says. ‘Now, as part of the plan, we create value in our players because I don’t want to face that situation many times more. Now, if someone wants, say, Gabriel — OK, come here. No problem.

‘If we sell Bukayo Saka — that’s not going to happen but it’s just an example — we as a club have to prepare his replacement straight away. Someone has to be in the squad or we have to manage the market well.’

That scenario is not unthinkable, given Saka has yet to agree a new deal amid interest from clubs including Manchester City. ‘It’s normal,’ Edu insists. ‘He’s happy, we’re happy, so it’s just: sit down and find a solution.’

Edu was speaking in Orlando, shortly before Arsenal’s pre-season tour ended with an impressive victory over Chelsea. Oleksandr Zinchenko, their fifth summer signing, made his debut in the 4-0 win.

A club like Arsenal is not building to fight for fourth place, I’m sorry,’ says Edu, 44, who first signed for Arsenal as a player in 2001 before returning to be technical director in 2019. ‘We cannot accept it. That’s why I was really, really hurt when I arrived.

‘I said, ‘That’s not the mentality of this football club. What is happening? Everybody is comfortable, everybody is OK, OK, OK…’ F*** you. ‘OK’? No. I don’t want to lose games.’

Edu adds: ‘I want to see the physios, the masseurs, the scouts, everyone with that kind of feeling: ‘F****** hell, now we are going to really go for things’. And I think we are changing, we are putting good mentality in the squad.’

Last season, Arsenal’s push to return to the Champions League — one year ahead of schedule — fell apart.

‘I felt in some important moments we needed players like those we are signing,’ Edu says. ‘We need a bigger squad with personalities, with some behaviours that say, ‘I will kill someone but I don’t lose the game’.’
Hence why character ranks above all else in Arsenal’s scouting. Winning is now a habit for players like Gabriel Jesus, with whom Edu worked while he was general co-ordinator of Brazil.

‘I said, “Gabriel, I’m here to try to sign you. But not the Gabriel from this season”,’ Edu recalls. ‘You’ve lost your shine’.’ The forward’s reply? ‘You’re right.’

Not everyone can be persuaded. Both Lisandro Martinez and Raphinha went elsewhere this summer and Edu once walked away from a deal after money kept cropping up in talks with a player at Borussia Dortmund. ‘If I smell something wrong — ‘Thank you very much’, I go,’ he says.

Without them, Arsenal’s five-year plan approaches crunch time. They veered on to this new path after Emery left in November 2019. Not long after walking into Arteta’s house, Edu knew he was the perfect fit to be the new boss

‘We had a great relationship straight away,’ he says.

The plan should bear fruit this season. Unfortunately, Arsenal’s top-four rivals are strengthening, too. ‘It is difficult, which is why we have to be realistic. But also, why not? They may be good teams but they are not unbeaten like 2003-04,’ laughs Edu, a member of that Invincibles side.

‘I learned from Arsene Wenger,’ the Brazilian says. ‘He tried to look after you and your family. He was focused on taking care of people.’

Edu’s attempts to emulate Wenger’s on-field success go on.

I hope people can stop bitchingggg about Arteta not being a good man manager and all while referencing how Ozil and dem Auba left. People should stop the shithousery of saying he cant manage big players cos now it appears Edu was obviously the mastermind of their departure ; something he's set his mind on even before Arteta left Guardiola's golden cabinet.

mikuz:


Which question bros

I mean concern. So you believe Liverpool will obliterate Man u wen it matters most, why then are you concerned about the 4-0 preseason loss?

Jodera:
I mean concern. So you believe Liverpool will obliterate Man u wen it matters most, why then are you concerned about the 4-0 preseason loss?

I want us to keep 100% record over them. No dents. Even if we play the match in Saturn make we flog them,

BlueRayDick:


I hope people can stop bitchingggg about Arteta not being a good man manager and all while referencing how Ozil and dem Auba left. People should stop the shithousery of saying he cant manage big players cos now it appears Edu was obviously the mastermind of their departure ; something he's set his mind on even before Arteta left Guardiola's golden cabinet.

Absolutely boss. Now we know who the real mastermind is regarding all those egoistical players and the way arsenal is heading to presently.

It's a very good thing Edu and Arteta have a very good relationship. This article really touched on a lot of things, reason why I decided to share it here

mikuz:


I want us to keep 100% record over them. No dents. Even if we play the match in Saturn make we flog them,

Jodera:
Absolutely boss. Now we know who the real mastermind is regarding all those egoistical players and the way arsenal is heading to presently.

It's a very good thing Edu and Arteta have a very good relationship. This article really touched on a lot of things, reason why I decided to share it here

Thank you for sharing.

BlueRayDick:


Dem no know say we get enough time.to drag out the transfer saga. We fit even winchi dem by later signing him few days to end of the window just to make sure they don't get suitable.replacement.

Na Ndidi I for like make we carry but that his injury scared me sha.

Kuku kill Leicester but you have a point, if we can use torreira plus Nelson and 10m them suppose reason us for ndidi na

iamoyindamola:

Kuku kill Leicester but you have a point, if we can use torreira plus Nelson and 10m them suppose reason us for ndidi na

Two players Don too much. Nelson is enough but dem go still wan collect like 50m for Ndidi.... His football age still make sense and he's a good player ; one of their key men sef.

BlueRayDick:


Two players Don too much. Nelson is enough but dem go still wan collect like 50m for Ndidi.... His football age still make sense and he's a good player ; one of their key men sef.

That's why 2 is better

BlueRayDick:


Thank you for sharing.

You're welcome boss

Jodera:
A long but very interesting read about Arsenal's vision and future


Big-money flops were ‘killing’ Arsenal, admits Edu as he aims for a Champions League return

Edu will discover soon if he really did read the runes. The technical director told Mikel Arteta and the Arsenal board a couple of years back: ‘Guys, 2022-23 will be the season we are going to be much better.’

Edu’s forecast formed part of a new, five-year plan for Arsenal, devised after Unai Emery was sacked in late 2019.

Change, driven alongside Arteta, has been ruthless and expensive and, at times, painful.

‘If a guy is performing and has a big salary, that’s not a problem,’ Edu says. ‘When the player is 26-plus, big salary and he’s not performing, he’s killing you.

‘You don’t have a valuation to sell the player, the player is comfortable — Arsenal, London, beautiful, everything is fantastic — and a good salary. How many players with that kind of characteristics did we have in the past? Eighty per cent of the squad.’
Not any more. On Edu’s watch, around 40 players have been shipped out. Some, including Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang and Mesut Ozil, were paid to leave. Several more will go this summer.
Since last year, 10 outfield players have arrived. None older than 25
‘Try to avoid one more year with the problem in the dressing room,’ Edu says. ‘Take it out. Even if you have to pay because that guy is sometimes blocking someone.’ He considers it an investment
‘How many players in the squad have those characteristics today?’ Edu says. ‘Now, as part of the plan, we create value in our players because I don’t want to face that situation many times more. Now, if someone wants, say, Gabriel — OK, come here. No problem.

‘If we sell Bukayo Saka — that’s not going to happen but it’s just an example — we as a club have to prepare his replacement straight away. Someone has to be in the squad or we have to manage the market well.’

That scenario is not unthinkable, given Saka has yet to agree a new deal amid interest from clubs including Manchester City. ‘It’s normal,’ Edu insists. ‘He’s happy, we’re happy, so it’s just: sit down and find a solution.’

Edu was speaking in Orlando, shortly before Arsenal’s pre-season tour ended with an impressive victory over Chelsea. Oleksandr Zinchenko, their fifth summer signing, made his debut in the 4-0 win.

A club like Arsenal is not building to fight for fourth place, I’m sorry,’ says Edu, 44, who first signed for Arsenal as a player in 2001 before returning to be technical director in 2019. ‘We cannot accept it. That’s why I was really, really hurt when I arrived.

‘I said, ‘That’s not the mentality of this football club. What is happening? Everybody is comfortable, everybody is OK, OK, OK…’ F*** you. ‘OK’? No. I don’t want to lose games.’

Edu adds: ‘I want to see the physios, the masseurs, the scouts, everyone with that kind of feeling: ‘F****** hell, now we are going to really go for things’. And I think we are changing, we are putting good mentality in the squad.’

Last season, Arsenal’s push to return to the Champions League — one year ahead of schedule — fell apart.

‘I felt in some important moments we needed players like those we are signing,’ Edu says. ‘We need a bigger squad with personalities, with some behaviours that say, ‘I will kill someone but I don’t lose the game’.’
Hence why character ranks above all else in Arsenal’s scouting. Winning is now a habit for players like Gabriel Jesus, with whom Edu worked while he was general co-ordinator of Brazil.

‘I said, “Gabriel, I’m here to try to sign you. But not the Gabriel from this season”,’ Edu recalls. ‘You’ve lost your shine’.’ The forward’s reply? ‘You’re right.’

Not everyone can be persuaded. Both Lisandro Martinez and Raphinha went elsewhere this summer and Edu once walked away from a deal after money kept cropping up in talks with a player at Borussia Dortmund. ‘If I smell something wrong — ‘Thank you very much’, I go,’ he says.

Without them, Arsenal’s five-year plan approaches crunch time. They veered on to this new path after Emery left in November 2019. Not long after walking into Arteta’s house, Edu knew he was the perfect fit to be the new boss

‘We had a great relationship straight away,’ he says.

The plan should bear fruit this season. Unfortunately, Arsenal’s top-four rivals are strengthening, too. ‘It is difficult, which is why we have to be realistic. But also, why not? They may be good teams but they are not unbeaten like 2003-04,’ laughs Edu, a member of that Invincibles side.

‘I learned from Arsene Wenger,’ the Brazilian says. ‘He tried to look after you and your family. He was focused on taking care of people.’

Edu’s attempts to emulate Wenger’s on-field success go on.

Interesting read. The part that gives me optimism is where he said the character is above everything while scouting.

Indeed we have lost characters over the years, the ones who never had losing as an option. I sincerely hope that philosophy of character above all other attributes is sustained even as we continue building.

The fear mentality must be brought back and for once I can now see that the monstrous pressing that puts teams into submission is being executed much better.

Consistency is all that's now needed if indeed they have gotten it right on the pitch and hopefully the results will come.

Well done to the technical board on this one .

iamoyindamola:

He's a winger too we can go for him

As ballboy or what?

“When I negotiate with a player, I meet them face-to-face to sell them our project. Then I can smell if something is wrong.

“For example, I talked to a player in Dortmund but it was always, ‘Yeah, but what about my contract — let’s talk money’.

“So I just told his agent, ‘Guys, thanks very much but it’s not what I want’. And I got up and left. Boom.” - Edu

Can anyone guess who is this Dortmund's player Edu is talking about?

Jencejyde:


Interesting read. The part that gives me optimism is where he said the character is above everything while scouting.

Indeed we have lost characters over the years, the ones who never had losing as an option. I sincerely hope that philosophy of character above all other attributes is sustained even as we continue building.

The fear mentality must be brought back and for once I can now see that the monstrous pressing that puts teams into submission is being executed much better.

Consistency is all that's now needed if indeed they have gotten it right on the pitch and hopefully the results will come.

Well done to the technical board on this one .

indeed bro, that's also the part that intrigued me the most. We now have a group of young willing players who are hungry and lacks ego. I believe that fear other teams have for us will come with time especially as we're now improving in quality depth. I remember saying last season that we've one of the best Midfield quality in EPL and it can only get better. Defence have improved considerably too
I believe this season will be very very much better than the last one.


Kudos to edu, Arteta and all the technical board for this. This new look arsenal breeds alot of hope to the fans

ObaIgwe1:
“When I negotiate with a player, I meet them face-to-face to sell them our project. Then I can smell if something is wrong.

“For example, I talked to a player in Dortmund but it was always, ‘Yeah, but what about my contract — let’s talk money’.

“So I just told his agent, ‘Guys, thanks very much but it’s not what I want’. And I got up and left. Boom.” - Edu

Can anyone guess who is this Dortmund's player Edu is talking about?

I suspect Bellingham sha

ObaIgwe1:
“When I negotiate with a player, I meet them face-to-face to sell them our project. Then I can smell if something is wrong.

“For example, I talked to a player in Dortmund but it was always, ‘Yeah, but what about my contract — let’s talk money’.

“So I just told his agent, ‘Guys, thanks very much but it’s not what I want’. And I got up and left. Boom.” - Edu

Can anyone guess who is this Dortmund's player Edu is talking about?

Surely a defender
Haaland is way out of our league

Jodera:
I suspect Bellingham sha

Too young if he's then he's stupid and greedy
I suspect akanji or zagadou

ObaIgwe1:


Can anyone guess who is this Dortmund's player Edu is talking about?

I doubt the said incident happened this year/ summer, possibly last summer.

If I was to guess, it will be between Julian Brandt/ Akanji.

Pepe is trusting the process
Too late nigga

BlueRayDick:


I hope people can stop bitchingggg about Arteta not being a good man manager and all while referencing how Ozil and dem Auba left. People should stop the shithousery of saying he cant manage big players cos now it appears Edu was obviously the mastermind of their departure ; something he's set his mind on even before Arteta left Guardiola's golden cabinet.

I hope you know everyone have the right to their own opinion and you using auba as example is grasping on a straw
According to edu context if you are earning high and not performing it's killing the team, when last did auba not perform apart from early last season even at that he still scored more than lacazette that replaced him
Do you also know edu and arteta wanted to extend lacazette contract.
The truth is they wanted him out and the opportunity presented itself so cool down on your comparison with ozil
Moreover ozil have been like that from wengay days

iamoyindamola:
Pepe is trusting the process
Too late nigga

Weyrey no trust any process, he dey fear Edu hammer. This one that Edu is talking tough, he knows he might be out of London and won't enjoy all the goodies that comes with living in London.

Omo I saw the tour around Arsenal facility they gave Viera and I see say those guys are really privileged to be playing for a top club. Na why club sef supposed dey shenk them when dem no do well at all

BlueRayDick:


Weyrey no trust any process, he dey fear Edu hammer. This one that Edu is talking tough, he knows he might be out of London and won't enjoy all the goodies that comes with living in London.

Omo I saw the tour around Arsenal facility they gave Viera and I see say those guys are really privileged to be playing for a top club. Na why club sef supposed dey shenk them when dem no do well at all

I want him and the likes of amn,Nelson, torreira out asap