IbrahimMav:

On the contrary.
It would make more sense for WB to start listening to fans demands.
Fix DCEU and the ire will dissippate, and maybe WB will start making some roadin in regards to planning the DCEU.
I'm one of these fans so I'm speaking for a lot of likeminded people.
Also, I find it strange that someone would take the side of a corporation over fans especially in a matter in which fans are justifiably pissed.
Are you a WB apologist?

abduleez1:


This is what I find funny. When peeps are fed up with actors bullshit and call them out you peeps begin to say one is a corporate bootlicker.

Fans demand. How many times have fans been right? The ones who protested Keaton in the 90s. Or the ones who hated on Ben Affleck when he was announced. Or is Heath Ledger that they whined about. Or is it Robert Pattinson?

Abeg make fans go sleep. Current happenings shows listening too much to fans leads to problems in the lung run.

IbrahimMav:
Henry Cavill is busy filming The Witcher 3 right now, so he's busy.
He's not like he can do two things or be at two places simultaneously.
And besides, he'd be a fool to sideline The Witcher project where he's getting paid a shit ton of money (as well as have special privilege to influence the script), for a project where he won't influence the script or be the highest paid star onscreen.
Henry Cavill is a nerd with a pretty face who has read all the comics, played all the video games and know superman inside out, but to think he's in out of the goodness of his heart is incredibly naive.
He's an entertainer and he entertains for a living, and like any half decent career, he does it for money. Acting isn't charity.
The fans want him, so it's in WB best interest to do whatever it takes to acquire his services.
WB need him more than he needs them, and as long as it stays that way, Cavill will continue to play hardball.
It's what every good actor who knows their worth does to earn more money.
He's just a good businessman.

abduleez1:


LMFAO.... Which one is WB needs him more than he needs them. E go shock am ruthlessly. Person wey company make and shape. I'm case you forget , Hollywood business is soldier go, soldier come. No one person can manipulate or hold sway for long.

You know how many actors don portray Joker, Batman tire. Soany iconic actors. And who thought anyone would eclipse Heath Ledger when Leto dropped a shitful performance in SS. Joaquin Phoenix came and won praise and even winning an Oscar.

Who thought Keaton will be ecliped, who thought they were gonna pick Affleck over Bale. With all the noise and cry isn't Robert Pattinson the praised Batman and many people's choices.
Another better actor will take that role and it'd be funny the way you'll forget Cavill sharp sharp. He will be remembered for his antics.

I don't think it's about selling oneself short but Cavill's greediness. Cos the way I see it if one is reasonable, is Cavill a box office draw. Is he Big? Is he that good an actor?
The only reason Cavill has fans goodwill now is cos most ppl can't think of who to replace him at the moment. The moment ppl starts fantasising about a top actor who's equal to the task his Euphoria will fade.

Reason am na.... Gadot and Patty was given $20mn each for compensation for WW84 going to HBOMax. Just recently variety reported that Joaquin Phoenix is collecting a handsome $20mn for his sequel. I think Cavill wants to earn more, probably $30-40mn which I think he isn't even worth sef.
What singular movie's success can be solely attributed to him? Forget MOS cos it's mainly for how iconic the character is and not cos of Cavill.


Me as an executive and fan sef can't give Cavill $20mn sef. If I do, na by force. Anything above that he can go fvvk himself cos he's done nothing to warrant such earnings. Let's be reasonable here... It's like rewarding someone for underperformance.

Actors who can make such demand like him are Gal, Ben, Phoenix and Momoa and maybe Will Smith cos they've got the track record.

IbrahimMav:
Henry Cavill is busy filming The Witcher 3 right now, so he's busy.
He's not like he can do two things or be at two places simultaneously.
And besides, he'd be a fool to sideline The Witcher project where he's getting paid a shit ton of money (as well as have special privilege to influence the script), for a project where he won't influence the script or be the highest paid star onscreen.
Henry Cavill is a nerd with a pretty face who has read all the comics, played all the video games and know superman inside out, but to think he's in out of the goodness of his heart is incredibly naive.
He's an entertainer and he entertains for a living, and like any half decent career, he does it for money. Acting isn't charity.
The fans want him, so it's in WB best interest to do whatever it takes to acquire his services.
WB need him more than he needs them, and as long as it stays that way, Cavill will continue to play hardball.
It's what every good actor who knows their worth does to earn more money.
He's just a good businessman.

Kaycee7:
Even Momoa sef go dey lower voice while making such demands.

AnfieldFan:
DC fans
Cavill that used to be the best thing after sliced bread is now a nobody....

IbrahimMav:


Don't mind these ones capping rubbish in this thread.
From there vitriol, I've surmised they are more WB fans than DC fans.
No real DC fan will spew such nonsense.
Their nonsense talk starts and end in nairaland shaa.
If they try such nonsense on the DC subreddit, they will be downvoted to oblivion.

AnfieldFan:


Mr, calm down... Nobody's capping rubbish...All concerns are valid, yours and likewise, theirs....

Many Dc fans obviously want Cavill back, but if a deal can't be hammered out, then I believe it's in everybody's best interests to move on ...

IbrahimMav:


Don't mind these ones capping rubbish in this thread.
From there vitriol, I've surmised they are more WB fans than DC fans.
No real DC fan will spew such nonsense.
Their nonsense talk starts and end in nairaland shaa.
If they try such nonsense on the DC subreddit, they will be downvoted to oblivion.

Kaycee7:
Funny. Here's a Cavill stan getting downvoted on a DC subreddit.
Also, throughout the whole thread, people are calmly having back and forths over the issue. It's almost like the fanbase actually has different views and opinions on this issue. Shocker!

IbrahimMav:


Lol sorry but that user deserved the downvote because he made an assumption from a dated tweet.
A lot has happened since then so his assumption while right at 2019 was wrong presently.
That's why I love that subreddit, it doesn't tolerate nonsense.
Also, DC_Cinematic subreddit love Cavill.
If you're in doubt, copy and paste one your post here and post it there and see what happens.
I dare you.

Kaycee7:
Sure. Copy and paste a post out of context to prove a point. That totally makes sense.

IbrahimMav:

I mean you're the one screenshooting downvoted posts to pass off your misguided agenda.
Except in your haste, you picked the wrong post to screenshot lol.
You've work to do, so you'd better get on with it.

abduleez1:


I dey tell you.
Cavill wey ppl no know am pass Superman and Witcher na im come dey form jagaban.

I wish na person like Joan Laporta be DC/WB films head. Him pride for don lower since.
Cavill na actor of $15mn pay at most mainly cos of the iconic role.

If no be him face as he take resemble Clark, I sure die say peeps no go too dey fawn on am.

Kaycee7:
My agenda? Kuku keee me. You made a wild claim. I pointed out with reference that said claim wasn't accurate. Now I have an agenda. Wahala!

IbrahimMav:


You have singled out Cavill as the villain in this shitshow despite the fact that WB have continually shown they are hopeless in handling delicate situations.
There are rumors that Cavill doesn't want to do only cameos but want his own film and more creative control.
These are fairly reasonable demands, and if WB really care about the future of DCEU, they'd give it to him.
Certainly some of us see it this way.
But some of you in this thread would rather take the side of a proven incompetent corporation over an actor who not only has proven he's tailor made for the role of superman, but has shown he's willing to come back as long as his demands are met.
I mean, just take a look at abduleez posts.
Those posts read like what a campaign manager would write about a political rival.
Those posts are completely unfair, unflattering and straightup propaganda.
It's beyond strange to take the side of a soulless corporation over a marketable actor.

Kaycee7:
Bruh, you're the one creating scenarios in your head because, apparently, people simply having a different perspective or opinion on an issue is seemingly beyond your comprehension.

You feel Cavill's demands are reasonable. I disagree.

You feel WB needs him more than he needs them. I also disagree.

And if disagreeing with those notions means I'm singling out Cavill as the villain, then suit yourself.

You keep hammering on this "corporation" thing and it's giving vibes that you don't really get how corporations works. It feels like your knowledge of them comes from the movies where they serve as antagonists.
Corporations are made up of board members with stakes in the company. Just about everything they do is decided in meetings where there's deliberations and voting. Now Cavill has at least 3 demands, if rumours are to be believed. Some members could agree with 2 but not a third. Some could agree with only one, some with none and some could even agree with the whole thing. But since the board can't come to a consensus yet, the notion of agreeing with Cavill's demands will remain pending until either Cavill proposes a more agreeable set of demands or the board members lobby each other into supporting the eventual majority.

This is simply business, not Superman vs Lexcorp.

abduleez1:


Remove Keaton from Batgirl and flash say wetin happen.

It's already a PR nightmare.

Minemrys:

For a total reboot. So we know we are starting afresh.

IbrahimMav:

It's ironic because you don't understand how a corporation works either.
Some Corporations are privately traded while some are publicly traded.
Each of these have board members but the voting power of these board members varies from board to board.
In WB, like in many media powerhouses, there's a chairman of the board who has a veto power to overrule or block any decision he feels are unfavorable to the company.
So it literally comes down to one man to give the green light, not multiple people like you're trying to claim.
It's a good thing you've acknowledged that it's simply business.
From Cavill's POV, it's simply business.

pu7pl3:


These Americans think they are the best in doing business

abduleez1:


While you both are right in your notions as to how boards and corporations work.
I hope you understand that not all decisions are made by a single person in a multinational company vice versa.
While David Zaslav the CEO of WBD wants a Superman in his upcoming universe he can't decide who dons the cape cos he's not an expert in the business. That's why he relies on the creatives in the company to do that. If not with Zaslav's passion I'm sure by now he would have announced a slate.

That's the main reason why Zaslav is waiting to get a new president for DC that is highly independent from Warner Bros bureaucracy. If not he won't be actively shopping for studio heads when he can just use the newly appointed heads of New Line and WB to oversee DC.
If Zaslav is like an authoritarian he wouldn't really give HBO's Casey Bloys an additional 5yrs contract. Exactly the tenure Zaslav's CEOship lasts (if he doesn't extend it). Hope you know HBO is arguably the most independent arm of WBD.

abduleez1:


Starting afresh takes us back to square one. We can't afford that now especially with the momentum of the MCU. It means we accept defeat that we failed and that doesn't bode a lot of confidence in upcoming projects.
In fact it will be hard to convince audience to watch them sef.

We just need to reboots thing not needed or things holding the franchise back and move forward.

Minemrys:

Bros, we are already back to square one. There's no clear story as it is or a build up to a big event. Flash film will tank so bad because of Ezra Miller. We have had 4 avengers film and by 2025 could have 6 Avengers films without a JL 2 or MOS 2. So what's the progress?
You guys seeing HC as the bad guy don't know the full details. HC even though he is all for the money, has sacrificed a lot for things he considers a passion project.
WB didn't want a MOS 2 but WBD that's wanting a MOS 2 will need to convince him with a good script and direction and he will be back.
He loves Superman and it's not just the money for him. It's easier to put a man down or blame him without knowing the full story.

kendrick93:
Insane that DC greenlighted a Batman movie separate from the DCEU...
How can you create a universe without your biggest comic character..
Who's expected to lead this universe..
Black Adam, Shazam, Flash?
LMAO
Unless we're gonna have another different batman which potentially makes it three Batman's all at the same time cos already Keaton would starring as batman..
Matt Reeves Batman should join the DCEU or be scrapped...

Minemrys:

Bros, we are already back to square one. There's no clear story as it is or a build up to a big event. Flash film will tank so bad because of Ezra Miller. We have had 4 avengers film and by 2025 could have 6 Avengers films without a JL 2 or MOS 2. So what's the progress?
You guys seeing HC as the bad guy don't know the full details. HC even though he is all for the money, has sacrificed a lot for things he considers a passion project.
WB didn't want a MOS 2 but WBD that's wanting a MOS 2 will need to convince him with a good script and direction and he will be back.
He loves Superman and it's not just the money for him. It's easier to put a man down or blame him without knowing the full story.

Nickshrapnel:
Flash movie won’t flop, lol

Minemrys:

Baba, e go hard to promote am without the lead. And some would want to boycott it.
To me, after all the stories about Miller, I could care less about it.

Xavier5:


Bro, nothing is going to happen to The Flash. It may not gross up to expectation but it won't flop.

Ezra Miller can't make Flash flop. The movie is bigger than Ezra Miller himself. How can a movie that involves Affleck, Keaton and Andy flop simply because Miller messed up, even if he's the lead character. The fact that he will be recasted is enough to put off his influence on the movie.

What WB/ DC needs is good marketing and I have stated how they can do that some time back. If WBD plays their card well they will turn the whole situation into a positive one. This is a piece of cake, there's nothing there.

As for people threatening to boycott the movie, well that's how they've been threatening all this while. Shey they also threatened to boycott The Batman, how far?
Bro, the boycotters are just a minority, they don't have the capacity to influence the performance of a movie. They're just whiners, they're not people you take serious. So if they want to boycott, they should go ahead and boycott. Their boycotting won't affect the positive performance of the movie on bit.

Flash may not gross up to expectation but it will not be a flop. That movie will gross a minimum of $700M. The unveiling of the new or rebooted JL is really going to contribute in boosting it.


#Xavier
#DCian