₦airaland Forum

GloriousGbola:
alausa is full of cameras. so once they catch you there, na straight to lastma office. i am sure that location na punishment posting for lastma officers

but that is the reality. when i was in kano, i automatically put on my seat belt when i entered the car. the driver was like, why, whats the big deal? we simply are not at a stage when people can be counted on to do the right thing.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I think insecurity is the major problem affecting agriculture and food production.

That's our next crude oil, but the insecurity in the North is discouraging.

To be very honest, I weep for the next president. [/color]

izzou:
[color=royalblue]It's only here people use seat belts to avoid law enforcers forgetting that the aim is to save their life.

No reorientation fit work again on us.[/color]

larride:
Did he explain how? Everyone has been saying it, even Buhari said it.

He needs to tell us how. When someone that makes his money from container economy suddenly tells you he will move away from the container economy, you need to ask him how.

larride:
I stop taking him serious when he said he doesn't need a manifesto.

He says What's the point of hiring a professional team to script words together that he doesn't believe him, but rather they should hold him to the words he say in interview.

A whole presidential candidate.

Ishilove:
Guy, forget

izzou:
[color=royalblue]It's only here people use seat belts to avoid law enforcers forgetting that the aim is to save their life.

No reorientation fit work again on us.[/color]

GloriousGbola:
my neighbour who born all his pikin for us, and used to carry all of them every holiday was putting his 4 year old in car front seat. i was like guy, this is not safe. you would think someone who visits texas every year should no better, but the guy just shrugged.

our problem just dey start. take this attitude and multiply it across.

this is actually whey people voted buhari. because we thought he would be able to fix the nigerian indiscipline problem.

if you cannot find the self discipline to go to a paid job 5 days in a week, what can you find the discipline to do?

larride:
Before I even drive out of gate, my seat belt is already hooked.

BlueRayDick:
I don’t think u have a full grasp of what is the issue here . This is not Eco 102( Intro to Macroeconomics) , we are talking real live scenarios here.

U talk about double tax on the rich but it’s already happening maybe u don’t know . If u want to buy a a rolls Royce of 100m now , be rest assured u will pay imports duty of N70m which puts the cost price of the vehicle at N170m cos luxury vehicles are cleared at the customs for 70% of the value of such item. (That’s why u see people like Davido lamenting when they have their luxury vehicles shipped down here ) .

Places like Lagos, homeowners are already used to paying land use charge which the government collects directly . Even rich folks who own large companies pay corporate income tax like they ought to with FIRS always shinning touch for every corner. I don’t know about this more taxation u are talking about.

What I think u should be clamoring for is reduction in government spendings on political office holders . Mudashiru Obasa the speaker of Lagos state house of assembly practically collected money to go for a programme in Turkey along with six members of the house ; only for him to go to the country with a lawmaker to buy furniture with that money

Our politicians have tens of SUV’s in their convoy bought with tax payers money carrying practically nobody ….. Our lawmakers get paid ridiculous amounts as allowances yet they’ve not been able to delibrate on issues and come up with legislations that will move the country forward.

If any Nigerian government follows this ur advice of more taxation in light of this current economic realities , the government will not only have increase in crime rate to deal with, but a possible revolution that will take the survival of the country with it .

afrodoc2:
I like this your no insult policy.

I won't you to watch that video closely, preferably without sound. Tell me 1) if you think the tremor is worse in one hand or equal AND 2) also tell me if it is worse when he keeps it down and still or worse when he moves the hand.

Illimitable:
So what are you going to do to the jobless 50 million youths in Nigeria? The job market cannot absorb them because there’s no vacancy anywhere. Nigerian universities produce more graduates than available jobs.

Russia has a compulsory military service for every male between ages 18-27. I think such programs should be introduced in Nigeria between ages 18-33 for 3 years.

We cannot just have an unproductive number of youths in the millions doing nothing. I would rather have them in the army fighting bandits than walking around aimlessly in Lagos.

Illimitable:
Data reveals your countrymen’s tax contributions to their GDP is only 6% - the lowest in Africa.

You can twist it, turn it, twirl that information anyhow you like, the fact reveals your countrymen are largely irresponsible.

OECD(EU) countries make 34% tax contributions to their GDP, LAC(South America/Caribbean) countries make 23.1% tax contributions to their GDP.

Your country is a pathetic 6% and you are blaming the government for taxing people too much already. What that tells me is that - about 85% of the Nigerian population are useless and unproductive.

How then do you expect the government to execute big projects, build good roads, invest in infrastructure, et cetera? Where should they get the money from? Should the CBN print money to bridge the gap of the useless people in Nigeria or what do you suggest?

It’s funny to me how Nigerian citizens can admire and love how things run in developed countries but they avoid the responsibility that the citizens of developed countries undertake. The world bank’s threshold is 15% and yet Nigeria(a 200m) are way short of the minimum to eradicate poverty.

Nigeria is fücked!

raumdeuter:
That was why people laughing at Tinubus recruiting massively into the army are very funny

Nigeria has insecurity problems, we also have unemployment problem. Recruiting 50K willing youths into the army first takes away the source of recruitment for criminals, Then these people will in turn secure the country, Like I asked, If Nigerian youths are not ready to secure the country should we ask Tanzanian or Egyptian youths that will secure the country?
Tinubu said, remove the high barrier to enter the military and let us increase our army by 25%

What will they eat? That is simple agbado cassava food items that grow easily everywhere in Nigeria

These are realistic solutions to the problem at hand

BlueRayDick:
I find this post quite distasteful and unnecessary, but for the sake of other people reading this I will choose not not to be be offended by this .

Back to the discussion , I clearly stated the so called “more taxation” u are calling for will never work, why ? Because those paying taxes have a feeling they are practically paying to experience failure in governance over and over again.

Attached to this post is an exposé by Thisday Newspapers on how Nigerians practically pay political office holders to promote poverty.

Like , does it make sense to you that 90 million Nigerians live on less than 1.9 USD daily while 469 legislooters pocket 1,357 USD per day ? Yet u say more taxation is the way to go . Like I said , this is not an academic discourse we are talking real life situations here . U can talk about % of tax contributions to GDP from the pages of ur textbook all day, but how u want to rationalize further taxing an already impoverished population is what I would like to see u explain .

I pay tax in Lagos state and I know for certain I’ve not enjoyed the benefits of the tax I pay that would encourage me to ever support increment in my tax rate . I don’t drive on good roads like one would expect , I don’t use government water ( the staff of water corporation practically collect free salary if u ask me ) , I even face politicians and their aides with escorts trying to bully me off the road even when they are driving against traffic in vehicles bought with my tax.

You have to make this make sense Abeg.

raumdeuter:

That was why people laughing at Tinubus recruiting massively into the army are very funny

Nigeria has insecurity problems, we also have unemployment problem. Recruiting 50K willing youths into the army first takes away the source of recruitment for criminals, Then these people will in turn secure the country, Like I asked, If Nigerian youths are not ready to secure the country should we ask Tanzanian or Egyptian youths that will secure the country?
Tinubu said, remove the high barrier to enter the military and let us increase our army by 25%

What will they eat? That is simple agbado cassava food items that grow easily everywhere in Nigeria

These are realistic solutions to the problem at hand

EmmanuelScott1:
Don't worry about the exchange rate nah, you're paid in naira

Illimitable:
I don’t particularly give a flying fück about how much Nigerian politicians make. How many people make up Nigerian politicians. Are they up to 10,000 people nationwide?

I don’t think you have a grasp of what is being discussed here. How can Togo, Niger, Rwanda, etc have more tax contributions to their GDP than Nigeria(the “phantom” giant of Africa)?? Giants of uselessness!!!

Even if Nigerian politicians are making N50 billion a month, double their taxes and put the proceeds into infrastructure, job creation, good roads and sort the epileptic power supply.

There’s what we call progressive tax in the UK/USA. Put the top 1% earners in Nigeria on 50% tax. Premier League footballers in the UK are taxed that much and it’s one of the reasons their government can effectively run a country.

This idea of blaming the entire uselessness of a nation on the salaries of the politician is why the country is stuck in excreta. The average useless youth in Nigeria who wouldn’t even flourish in a developed country quickly blames a Senator’s salary as the reasons why he’s unproductive.

It’s such a pedestrian excuse.

Theflint1:
if this was all Tinubu said no one would laugh na, of course, we need more bodies in our armed forces, just not 50 million which was why people laughed.

Illimitable:
I don’t particularly give a flying fück about how much Nigerian politicians make. How many people make up Nigerian politicians. Are they up to 10,000 people nationwide?

I don’t think you have a grasp of what is being discussed here. How can Togo, Niger, Rwanda, etc have more tax contributions to their GDP than Nigeria(the “phantom” giant of Africa)?? Giants of uselessness!!!

Even if Nigerian politicians are making N50 billion a month, double their taxes and put the proceeds into infrastructure, job creation, good roads and sort the epileptic power supply.

There’s what we call progressive tax in the UK/USA. Put the top 1% earners in Nigeria on 50% tax. Premier League footballers in the UK are taxed that much and it’s one of the reasons their government can effectively run a country.

This idea of blaming the entire uselessness of a nation on the salaries of the politician is why the country is stuck in excreta. The average useless youth in Nigeria who wouldn’t even flourish in a developed country quickly blames a Senator’s salary as the reasons why he’s unproductive.

It’s such a pedestrian excuse.

Theflint1:
You're saying so many things you've not bothered to think about. The top 1% of Nigeria have a net worth of less than 30 million Naira. What's the cost of living today, if you're taxing 50% of that lean 30 million net worth, what's left?

Theflint1:
if this was all Tinubu said no one would laugh na, of course, we need more bodies in our armed forces, just not 50 million which was why people laughed.

Theflint1:
You're saying so many things you've not bothered to think about. The top 1% of Nigeria have a net worth of less than 30 million Naira. What's the cost of living today, if you're taxing 50% of that lean 30 million net worth, what's left?

raumdeuter:
He corrected this to 50K youths but it wont stop naysayers

Itsrm:
Obidients are now asking for Seuns head on twitter

They say he was asking questions like he was paid to ask.

Rather than admit PO had a terrible outing, they have turned on the poor guy who was simply doing his job.

Ibime:
Which Seun? Our boss Osewa?

BlueRayDick:
lolz….

Here is a link to the full article

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2019/11/10/paying-political-office-holders-to-promote-poverty

The attached screenshot is practically saying we spend so much on paying useless bogus salaries and allowances of public office holders than we actually do on infrastructures , but here u are saying u don’t give a flying 4ck about that….. All u care about is more taxation. Lmao

Ndi Economics professor . I greet u

Illimitable:
You are showing me ThisDayLive as your source to debate me in an intellectual discourse. Please do not disgrace yourself further with this piece of fückery.

What Nigerian politicians spend is drops in an ocean of the revenue that the Nigerian state is capable of. It’s an excuse to be lazy.

Ahmed Lawan’s salary does not stop you from making N2m a month salary in chevron. If you don’t avoid taxes and everyone pays his dues to the GDP, the country would run efficiently.

But you hide under Shina Peller’s salary to be completely useless to the country. The reasons why you aren’t productive is because your personal income has been fused into Shina Peller’s salary.

How does that make sense?

BlueRayDick:
Is the fact stated by Thisday in the report true or false ? I believe a smart person would check it out before saying stuff like “ u are showing me ThisDayLive as ur source in an intellectual discourse “ just to save face when cornered .

Your theory on more fiscal policies has fallen flat on its face right before ur eyes cos it’s obvious that is not the problem but rather what government spends on recurrent expenditures to pay salaries of unproductive public office holders .

And yes it’s appalling that u keep referring to those already paying their taxes as useless even as u call for more tax burden to be placed on their shoulders . I honestly do hope people like u do not get close to where economic decisions are being made ; at least for the sake of honest and reasonable Nigerians whose sweat and blood has been running the government of this country that’s yet to bring them joy .