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How To Pray—is The Lord’s Prayer The Best Way? by slimchimex(op): 8:39am On Jul 31, 2022
[b][/b]THE BIBLE'S ANSWER
The Lord’s Prayer provides guidance for us as to how we should pray and what we should pray about. Jesus gave it in response to his disciples’ request: “Lord, teach us how to pray.” (Luke 11:1) However, the Lord’s Prayer, or the Our Father prayer, is not the only prayer that God accepts. Rather, Jesus gave it as a pattern for prayers that God hears.

What does the Lord’s Prayer say?
The Lord’s Prayer, recorded at Matthew 6:9-13, is worded differently in various Bible translations. Here are two examples.
New World Translation: “Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. Let your Kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth. Give us today our bread for this day; and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And do not bring us into temptation, but deliver us from the wicked one.
”King James Version: “Our Father which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.”

What is the meaning of the Lord’s Prayer?
Jesus’ teaching agreed with the rest of the Scriptures, so we can expect other parts of the Bible to shed light on the meaning of the Lord’s Prayer.
“Our Father in the heavens”.......It is fitting to address God as “our Father” because he created us and gave us life.—Isaiah 64:8.
“Let your name be sanctified”.......God’s name, Jehovah, should be honored and treated as holy, or sacred. Humans share in sanctifying God’s name when they speak of his qualities and make known his purposes.—Psalm 83:18; Isaiah 6:3.
"Let your Kingdom come”.......God’s Kingdom is a heavenly government with Jesus as its King. Jesus taught us to pray for this government to exercise its rule over the whole earth.—Daniel 2:44; Revelation 11:15.
"Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth”.......Just as there is no evil or death in heaven, God’s will for the earth is that humans live forever on it in peace and security.—Psalm 37:11, 29.
“Give us today our bread for this day”........In Jesus’ time, bread was a staple food. We should remember that we depend on our Creator to provide the things we need in order to live.—Acts 17:24, 25.
“Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors”.........In this context, the word “debts” is another word for sins. (Luke 11:4) All humans sin and need forgiveness. But if we want to receive God’s forgiveness, we must be willing to forgive others for their sins against us.—Matthew 6:14, 15.
"Do not bring us into temptation, but deliver us from the wicked one”.........Jehovah God never tempts us to do wrong. (James 1:13) But we are tempted by “the wicked one,” Satan the Devil—who is also called “the Tempter.” (1 John 5:19; Matthew 4:1-4) We ask that Jehovah not permit us to give in when we are tempted to disobey him.
Re: How To Pray—is The Lord’s Prayer The Best Way? by Righthussle:
Why won't God just kill satan to stop him from us doing evil?
Re: How To Pray—is The Lord’s Prayer The Best Way? by slimchimex(op): 12:30pm On Jul 31, 2022
Righthussle:
Why won't God just kill satan to stop from us?
Killing or destroying satan will not solve the issue raised by satan, that is "The Issue of Sovereignty or The Right to Rule". God has allowed time to pass to prove to satan and humans that He is the sovereign ruler, and as the ceator of heaven and earth and everything in them has the right to rule over everything.

Soon God will take over the rulership and store the earth to a beautiful paradise
Re: How To Pray—is The Lord’s Prayer The Best Way? by Kobojunkie: 7:15pm On Jul 31, 2022
slimchimex:
1. The Lord’s Prayer provides guidance for us as to how we should pray and what we should pray about. Jesus gave it in response to his disciples’ request: “Lord, teach us how to pray.” (Luke 11:1) However, the Lord’s Prayer, or the Our Father prayer, is not the only prayer that God accepts. Rather, Jesus gave it as a pattern for prayers that God hears.

2. What does the Lord’s Prayer say?
The Lord’s Prayer, recorded at Matthew 6:9-13, is worded differently in various Bible translations. Here are two examples.
New World Translation: “Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. Let your Kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth. Give us today our bread for this day; and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And do not bring us into temptation, but deliver us from the wicked one.
”King James Version: “Our Father which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.”.
1. So what you are insinuating is that when Jesus Christ said, what He did in the Gospels, Jesus Christ lied to His disciples? undecided

Because by saying that Jesus Christ did not in fact mean His followers should pray as He commands, and we know the same Jesus Christ said those who love Him are those who obey His commandments. undecided
5 “When you pray, don’t be like the hypocrites. They love to stand in the synagogues and on the street corners and pray loudly. They want people to see them. The truth is, that’s all the reward they will get.
6 But when you pray, you should go into your room and close the door. Then pray to your Father. He is there in that private place. He can see what is done in private, and he will reward you.
7 “And when you pray, don’t be like the people who don’t know God. They say the same things again and again. They think that if they say it enough, their god will hear them.
8 Don’t be like them. Your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
9 So this is how you should pray: ‘Our Father in heaven, we pray that your name will always be kept holy.
10 We pray that your kingdom will come— that what you want will be done here on earth, the same as in heaven.
11 Give us the food we need for today.
12 Forgive our sins, just as we have forgiven those who did wrong to us.
13 Don’t let us be tempted, but save us from the Evil One.’
14 Yes, if you forgive others for the wrongs they do to you, then your Father in heaven will also forgive your wrongs.
15 But if you don’t forgive others, then your Father in heaven will not forgive the wrongs you do. - Matthew 6 vs 5 - 15
Does God now answer the prayers of the very hypocrites that He vowed over 2000 that He never will? undecided

2. Does the interpretation of the prayer matter as far as what Jesus Christ said of how we are to pray as such whenever we seek to pray to the Father? undecided
Re: How To Pray—is The Lord’s Prayer The Best Way? by Kobojunkie: 7:17pm On Jul 31, 2022
Righthussle:
Why won't God just kill satan to stop him from us doing evil?
Satan isn't the reason why you do evil. You do evil because you have evil intentions in your heart. So instead, you need to destroy those evil intentions in your own heart - the will of yours to disobey God's commandments - and you will find yourself no longer doing that which is evil against God. undecided
Re: How To Pray—is The Lord’s Prayer The Best Way? by slimchimex(op): 3:13pm On Aug 01, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. So what you are insinuating is that when Jesus Christ said, what He did in the Gospels, Jesus Christ lied to His disciples? undecided

Because by saying that Jesus Christ did not in fact mean His followers should pray as He commands, and we know the same Jesus Christ said those who love Him are those who obey His commandments. undecided
Does God now answer the prayers of the very hypocrites that He vowed over 2000 that He never will? undecided

2. Does the interpretation of the prayer matter as far as what Jesus Christ said of how we are to pray as such whenever we seek to pray to the Father? undecided
The model prayer of Jesus is not a word for word prayer, but serves as a guide to pray from the heart, and ro make our prayer presentable to God.
Remember Jesus talked about avoiding repeatation of words while praying. So we can't be reading Mat. 6:9-15 and claim we're praying.
And don't forget we have our indiviual problems which did not reflex in that prayer.
Re: How To Pray—is The Lord’s Prayer The Best Way? by Kobojunkie:
slimchimex:
1. The model prayer of Jesus is not a word for word prayer, but serves as a guide to pray from the heart, and ro make our prayer presentable to God.
2. Remember Jesus talked about avoiding repeatation of words while praying. So we can't be reading Mat. 6:9-15 and claim we're praying.

3.And don't forget we have our indiviual problems which did not reflex in that prayer.
1. Where in scripture did Jesus Christ proclaim that what He gave to you is a model prayer that should serve as a guide and not a real, word-for-word prayer? undecided

2. There are no vain repetitions contained in the written version of the Lord's prayer. So, you have to explain to me exactly you keep repeating that statement when it does not apply at all to what is the Lord's prayer. undecided

3. And what do you mean by we have our individual problems which did not reflect in the prayer? An example will help. undecided
Re: How To Pray—is The Lord’s Prayer The Best Way? by slimchimex(op): 3:27pm On Aug 01, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Satan isn't the reason why you do evil. You do evil because you have evil intentions in your heart. So instead, you need to destroy those evil intentions in your own heart - the will of yours to disobey God's commandments - and you will find yourself no longer doing that which is evil against God. undecided
Romans 5;12 says "Thay is why, just as through one man(Adam) sin entered into the world and death through sin, so death spread to all men because they had all sinned".

Remember that Adam was perfect obeying God's command before he and his wife Eve were deceived by satan,and they rebeled against God. This was the begining of man's sin and evil on planet earth.

Although we have conscience and freewill to decide between right and wrong, choosing to do God's will or not, satan as the Bible describe him, is moving about like a roaring lion looking for people to mislead and pushing them to disobey God.
Re: How To Pray—is The Lord’s Prayer The Best Way? by Kobojunkie: 4:02pm On Aug 01, 2022
slimchimex:
1. Adam was perfect obeying God's command before he and his wife Eve were deceived by satan,and they rebeled against God. This was the begining of man's sin and evil on planet earth.

2. Although we have conscience and freewill to decide between right and wrong, choosing to do God's will or not, satan as the Bible describe him, is moving about like a roaring lion looking for people to mislead and pushing them to disobey God.
1. Adam has nothing to do with this. Adam. undecided

2. It doesn't matter what you believe of your conscience either. undecided

Men do evil because they have bad things/evil intentions stored up in their hearts. That is what Jesus Christ taught His disciples of what causes sin - Matthew 15 vs 10 -20 and Mark 7 vs 13 - 23 undecided
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