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Lurker4Long:
Not sure if Charlie Hugo shot videos as well. The Zambian AF has an annual event that combines an air show with "Children's Flight".
By rotation schools send kids for their first flight, to stimulate interest in aviation.
Charlie is an aviation enthusiast who travels to various airshows around southern Africa taking pics.
You'll find most of his work here:
http://www.wildaviation.com/cms/

thanks

Nigeria

jl115:
Bru your doctrine is based of past experiences and objectives.....wtf are you talking about our doctrine not making us a super power? What ret@rded argument is that? If you want to have a proper discussion then come with a proper response.

Do you even know what doctrine is?

And FYI copying doctrine that works is what all militaries do, that's why there are multinational exercises and workshops to learn from allies.

FYI our doctrine with regards to guerrilla and Coin warfare is legendary and has been copied by basically the entire world...the SAS(and other SFs) has based its doctrine from the South African commandos.... Even the word commando is South African of origin.

Look at the US deployment in Afganistan.... You can even clearly see South African doctrine applied by US troops.... Doctrine which we developed 60 years ago...

from our famous wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_doctrine

Military doctrine is the expression of how military forces contribute to campaigns, major operations, battles, and engagements.

It is a guide to action, rather than being hard and fast rules. Doctrine provides a common frame of reference across the military. It helps standardize operations, facilitating readiness by establishing common ways of accomplishing military tasks.

Doctrine links theory, history, experimentation, and practice.[1] Its objective is to foster initiative and creative thinking. Doctrine provides the military with an authoritative body of statements on how military forces conduct operations and provides a common lexicon for use by military planners and leaders.

Russia or USSR then had their unique doctrine that was entirely different from the norms, and they produced weapons to suit their doctrine and it worked for them very well. I'm citing wiki as a common source here and I never said your doctrine was bad, neither did I say South Africa didn't create an independent doctrine. All nations have theirs but the soviets' doctrine is vastly different from common norms, so don't use your perspective to judge them because you guys won a bush war fostered by one of its allies. It may not work for you or look archaic to you and nothing worth mentioning but that's them, how many tanks were lost by soviets in Afghanistan or similar weapon losses; at the Soviet way of fighting brings about lots of losses in personnels and equipment but at the end they mostly achieve their goals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_doctrine#Russia_and_the_Soviet_Union

The Soviet meaning of military doctrine was very different from U.S. military usage of the term. Soviet Minister of Defence Marshal Grechko defined it in 1975 as "a system of views on the nature of war and methods of waging it, and on the preparation of the country and army for war, officially adopted in a given state and its armed forces."

jl115:
FYI our doctrine with regards to guerrilla and Coin warfare is legendary and has been copied by basically the entire world...the SAS(and other SFs) has based its doctrine from the South African commandos.... Even the word commando is South African of origin.

Look at the US deployment in Afganistan.... You can even clearly see South African doctrine applied by US troops.... Doctrine which we developed 60 years ago...

I would argue that modern COIN doctrine has been a process of refinement from the French experience with the Algerian War of Independence.
The Brits learned from that and adapted it successfully with the Malayan Emergency.
SA studied both and adapted to suit local conditions. And some of what we added, like highly mobile mine-protected vehicles, has been taken up by others.

So yes, serious militaries learn from others' experiences and adapt it accordingly. But I wouldn't go so far as to say we invented.

davefurn:
Russia or USSR then had their unique doctrine that was entirely different from the norms, and they produced weapons to suit their doctrine and it worked for them very well.

This is true. Here's where jl115 is coming from:
The Angolan military learned Soviet doctrine and never adapted it for local conditions. And it didn't work.

Lurker4Long:
This is true. Here's where jl115 is coming from:
The Angolan military learned Soviet doctrine and never adapted it for local conditions. And it didn't work.

If it's from that angle, then he is absolutely correct then

Kenya navy ship KNS shupavu is currently undergoing a mid-life refit at Kenya shipyard limited .this will be the first time a mid-life refit is done locally.
It will be interesting to see what kind of armament will be installed

davefurn:
from our famous wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_doctrine




Russia or USSR then had their unique doctrine that was entirely different from the norms, and they produced weapons to suit their doctrine and it worked for them very well. I'm citing wiki as a common source here and I never said your doctrine was bad, neither did I say South Africa didn't create an independent doctrine. All nations have theirs but the soviets' doctrine is vastly different from common norms, so don't use your perspective to judge them because you guys won a bush war fostered by one of its allies. It may not work for you or look archaic to you and nothing worth mentioning but that's them, how many tanks were lost by soviets in Afghanistan or similar weapon losses; at the Soviet way of fighting brings about lots of losses in personnels and equipment but at the end they mostly achieve their goals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_doctrine#Russia_and_the_Soviet_Union

well done!!! I can also qoute wiki........ Also when did I mention Russia?? When did I even once mention Russia? My statement was purely around how I feel doctrine is just as important if not more important than training...... I said nothing about Russia or SA for that matter...... But hey... If the shoe fits

Lurker4Long:
I would argue that modern COIN doctrine has been a process of refinement from the French experience with the Algerian War of Independence.
The Brits learned from that and adapted it successfully with the Malayan Emergency.
SA studied both and adapted to suit local conditions. And some of what we added, like highly mobile mine-protected vehicles, has been taken up by others.

So yes, serious militaries learn from others' experiences and adapt it accordingly. But I wouldn't go so far as to say we invented.

I agree however all modern guerilla and coin tactics trace their way back to the South African commandos of the Boer war.... But yes, we have certainly copied tactics from other countries as well

davefurn:
If it's from that angle, then he is absolutely correct then

yeah well I was just speaking in general

Exnavyboy62:
...you claim it's is a South African made doctrine is what the SADC is using in Mozambique right?

I'm very interested in this part. Just so we're discussing the same thing, what in your understanding is the concept of operations in Mozambique?

jl115:
well done!!! I can also qoute wiki........ Also when did I mention Russia?? When did I even once mention Russia? My statement was purely around how I feel doctrine is just as important if not more important than training...... I said nothing about Russia or SA for that matter...... But hey... If the shoe fits

, Lol, Read the quote you replied before looking at your present reply , and let me see your wiki source too

Lurker4Long:
I'm very interested in this part. Just so we're discussing the same thing, what in your understanding is the concept of operations in Mozambique?

To provide stability in the region, support in collaboration with humanitarian agencies and humanitarian relief to the population affected by terrorists organization especially the IDPs.

Exnavyboy62:
To provide stability in the region, support in collaboration with humanitarian agencies and humanitarian relief to the population affected by terrorists organization especially the IDPs.

Are you ex navy or is that just a moniker?
I'm asking cos if you're former navy, you'd know what I mean by concept of operations (CONOPS) from a military perspective.

What debt trap?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/multipolarista.com/2022/08/20/china-forgives-debt-africa/amp/

davefurn:
, Lol, Read the quote you replied before looking at your present reply , and let me see your wiki source too

look at my original post and show me where I mentioned Russia

Nigerian army escort for Borno government community reconstruction in Gudumbali, Borno state.

kabe1:
Nigerian army clearance operations in Gudumbali.

Looks like escort for a convoy

Fynline:
Looks like escort for a convoy

Yes, escort for community reconstruction.

Lurker4Long:
Are you ex navy or is that just a moniker?
I'm asking cos if you're former navy, you'd know what I mean by concept of operations (CONOPS) from a military perspective.

Ohh ok I didn't know that was what you were asking and yes I'm an Ex-navyboi.
Can you kindly explain better what you are trying to make known, I wouldn't want to say ignorantly say something wrong with confidence. Thanks

kikuyu1:
True,but the sheer magnitude of the seismic record make me doubt the official story.

Well end of the day it depends on us , what we choose to believe, either way it's our individual belief/opinion

Nigeria air force SOF operator

Flanker:
NIIP N011M Bars Radar and Saturn AL-31FP TVC engine on the Su-30MKI (A) of Algerian Air Force

Beautiful aircraft. Any plans to retrofit it with an AESA radar and Western avionics?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyDd9WF165Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqKZugB-Ajk

Something to be proud of

Documentary with English subtitles from the battle of Mariupol.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KQVPmEN73w

IT IS WHAT IT IS

kabe1:
Documentary with English subtitles from the battle of Mariupol.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KQVPmEN73w

Damn, it's out!!!!!!

Toju200:
Nigerian SOF operator

What service branch?

NTSA:
Another contingent of KDf forces is undergoing pre-deployment training at Kangaita camp before being deployed to Congo

The new contingent was officially flagged Off today ,after pre-deployment training was done

Kdf undertaking road repair works in Dhobley Somalia .

Rumors about a us made Reaper drone being shot down in Benghazi. Nothing on yet, what shot it down; that's to show drones still have a long way to go especially air defences and electronic warfare