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Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by BluntCrazeMan(op):
As for Peter Obi, he knows a lot about the problems..
Agreed.!!
He knows both the root causes of the problems as well as the resultant effects.
But he is still thinking up the best lasting specific “once-and-for-all” solutions to all these problems, both the causes and the resultant effects.
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As for Atiku Abubakar, he actually has a lot of ideas of all the “trial-and-error” possible solutions that he could apply, so as to see whether the resultant effects which we are currently seeing can at least go down a bit...
He doesn't know what the real problems with Nigeria actually are, neither does he know the causes.
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Any average person who is reading this might claim that he already knows the problems with Nigeria, and that everybody knows that too...
But the truth is that, most of the ordinary Nigerians know and feel the resultant effects of the actual problems, they don't know the problems, neither do they know the root causes..
This is also where Atiku might fall in too.
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So, Choose Wisely.!!
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Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by TinubuThief: 4:57pm On Aug 22, 2022
Knowing and identifying the problems first before proffering solutions for the problems. Thanks
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by femisplash: 4:59pm On Aug 22, 2022
Shettima was giving practical local solutions. Obi is always pointing to problems which every primary school pupils are aware of, there's no practical solutions up his head. Atiku was also fairly practical.
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by SmartPolician: 4:59pm On Aug 22, 2022
Imagine how boring you will sound when you join an association for the first time and start telling them what to do to make the association better. Meanwhile, these solutions are things they already do or know. Sometimes, I feel like slapping such people. So, for me, you need to really understand the root causes of problems and their effects before drawing action plans that will help you tackle them.

As for the conference, I think that some politicians may not want to share their solutions so that their opponents don't use it against them or implement them despite not winning the election. We know how Buhari criticized Atiku when he mentioned selling NNPC and how he did the same when Jonathan removed PMS subsidy. Politics is complicated and evil.

A friend once told me about selling an idea to Etisalat. After submitting the proposal, he was told to go that the organisation would look into it. Weeks later, he received a regret email from them. Afterwards, the company started implementing the same idea he sold to them. Dude was terribly devastated.
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by Prince111111: 4:59pm On Aug 22, 2022
Knowing the problems does not really translate to knowing the solutions. A lot of people know their problems but do not know the solutions to them. Okay?
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by 3ple9iner: 5:02pm On Aug 22, 2022
Giving solution is better than repeating the problems. Almost everyone can identify the problems of Nigeria but when you hear the solutions people give out, then you would be able to know the literates and illiterates.
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by femisplash: 5:02pm On Aug 22, 2022
TinubuThief:
Knowing the problem first before proffering solutions
Everybody knows the problems/challenges the country is faced with. Nigeria is not hidden under a rock, your 5yr old nephew could identity the wrongs in the system. The country is in dire need of solutions which Obi is bereft of.
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by GoooodHardDick: 5:07pm On Aug 22, 2022
If you don't know problems to a situation, how can you give the solution?

You have to know the problem First before embarking on the solution and that's exactly what peter Obi is doing.

Peter Obi is the incoming president FRN
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by XerXers: 5:11pm On Aug 22, 2022
We have caught this government several times apply what Peter Obi said, let him stop giving them expo abeg
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by BluntCrazeMan(op): 5:12pm On Aug 22, 2022
3ple9iner:
Giving solution is better than repeating the problems. Almost everyone can identify the problems of Nigeria but when you hear the solutions people give out, then you would be able to know the literates and illiterates.
If you listened to Atiku,, he is sounding like whatever he is proffering as solutions are just postulations that he hopes that would work.
But in all honesty,, he doesn't know how deep the problem with Nigeria is
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by BluntCrazeMan(op): 5:14pm On Aug 22, 2022
femisplash:
Everybody knows the problems/challenges the country is faced with. Nigeria is not hidden under a rock, your 5yr old nephew could identity the wrongs in the system. The country is in dire need of solutions which Obi is bereft of.
Everybody knows what.??
What are the root causes of corruption in Nigeria??
Do you know that.??
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by BluntCrazeMan(op): 5:15pm On Aug 22, 2022
3ple9iner:
Giving solution is better than repeating the problems. Almost everyone can identify the problems of Nigeria but when you hear the solutions people give out, then you would be able to know the literates and illiterates.
What you're identifying are the resultant effects...
Not the problems themselves..
And not even the root causes of such problems.
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by BluntCrazeMan(op): 5:16pm On Aug 22, 2022
Prince111111:
Knowing the problems does not really translate to knowing the solutions. A lot of people know their problems but do not know the solutions to them. Okay?
Which is better??
A wild-goose chase at trying anything possible, that is??
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(That's exactly what Buhari did for the past 8 years)
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by mrvitalis(m): 5:19pm On Aug 22, 2022
Prince111111:
Knowing the problems does not really translate to knowing the solutions. A lot of people know their problems but do not know the solutions to them. Okay?
That is a lie understanding a problem is 70% the solution what most people know are symptoms of the problem not the problem


Nigerians are poor is not a problem but symptoms of a problem ... understanding why Nigerians are poor is actually the problem

Nigerian politicians are corrupt is not a problem but symptoms the problem is what makes it possible to be corrupt and why people are allowed to be

Insecurity like obi said is not really a problem but a symptom of and underlying problem

Understanding a problem is key once it's done any idiot can't solve the problem
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by Polchiz(m): 5:22pm On Aug 22, 2022
BluntCrazeMan:
As for Peter Obi, he knows a lot about the problems..
Agreed.!!
He knows both the root causes of the problems as well as the resultant effects.
But he is still thinking up the best lasting specific “once-and-for-all” solutions to all these problems, both the causes and the resultant effects.
..
..
As for Atiku Abubakar, he actually has a lot of ideas of all the “trial-and-error” possible solutions that he could apply, so as to see whether the resultant effects which we are currently seeing can at least go down a bit...
He doesn't know what the real problems with Nigeria actually are, neither does he know the causes.
...
..
.
Choose Wisely.!!
If you know anything about Total Productive Management (TPM) methodologies. No organisation will allow you to provide solutions when you have not identified the problem.
It is called Root Cause Failure Analysis (RCFA).
In fact, you ability to identify the problem is rated higher than providing the solution.
Once the problem is known, the solution becomes easy.
Peter Obi on many occasions has given solutions to the problems in addition to identifying them. However, your hatred for him will not allow you to see it.
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by Polchiz(m): 5:25pm On Aug 22, 2022
mrvitalis:
That is a lie understanding a problem is 70% the solution what most people know are symptoms of the problem not the problem


Nigerians are poor is not a problem but symptoms of a problem ... understanding why Nigerians are poor is actually the problem

Nigerian politicians are corrupt is not a problem but symptoms the problem is what makes it possible to be corrupt and why people are allowed to be

Insecurity like obi said is not really a problem but a symptom of and underlying problem

Understanding a problem is key once it's done any idiot can't solve the problem
You are wise.
Doctors don't treat you if proper diagnosis is not carried out. Once that is done, even a chemist can give medication.
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by YourhealthNG2(m):
Nigeria has never been short of plans or solutions. Even if there are no solutions to a particular problem, you can copy from other countries.

However, what is lacking in Nigeria is courage, determination and political will to implement solutions/plans.

Take security for instance, who does not know that state police will help improve security? So why hasn't it been done?

Who does not know that creation of job opportunities will reduce youth restiveness and insecurity? So why hasn't it been done?

Who does not know that cutting cost of running govt will free up huge resources that can be deployed for more human and infrastructural developments? So why hasn't this been done?

Who does not know that giving security agencies full licence to eliminate every bandit, armed Fulani herdsmen, unknown gun men, armed ESN, kidnapper, Boko Haram, Iswap, armed robber, cultists, etc will drastically reduce insecurity? So why is this not being done?

Who does not know that adequate funding that caters for the the welfare and equipment of the police will improve security? So why is this not being done?

Who does not know that supporting agriculture fully, including crop and animal farming, will improve our GDP and economy? So why is this not being done?

Who does not know that supporting micro and small businesses will boost our economy? So why is this not being done?

And so on and so forth..
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by Polchiz(m): 5:27pm On Aug 22, 2022
SmartPolician:
Imagine how boring you will sound when you join an association for the first time and start telling them what to do to make the association better. Meanwhile, these solutions are things they already do or know. Sometimes, I feel like slapping such people. So, for me, you need to really understand the root causes of problems and their effects before drawing action plans that will help you tackle them.

As for the conference, I think that some politicians may not want to share their solutions so that their opponents don't use it against them or implement them despite not winning the election. We know how Buhari criticized Atiku when he mentioned selling NNPC and how he did the same when Jonathan removed PMS subsidy. Politics is complicated and evil.

A friend once told me about selling an idea to Etisalat. After submitting the proposal, he was told to go that the organisation would look into it. Weeks later, he received a regret email from them. Afterwards, the company started implementing the same idea he sold to them. Dude was terribly devastated.
You are wise.
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by femisplash: 5:29pm On Aug 22, 2022
BluntCrazeMan:
Everybody knows what.??
What are the root causes of corruption in Nigeria??
Do you know that.??
Everybody knows corruption is a major problem, the next actionable plan is how to plug the loopholes.
This election is solution-focused. No media interview would major on problems or it root cause, we have identified all that since 1999. No candidate should keep pointing at problems anylonger, it's time for practical solutions.
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by BluntCrazeMan(op): 5:30pm On Aug 22, 2022
YourhealthNG2:
Nigeria has never been short of plans or solutions. Even if there are no solutions to a particular problem, you can copy from other countries.

However, what is lacking in Nigeria is courage and political will to implement solutions/plans.

Take sec
The problem with Nigeria is that we really don't know our exact problems..
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We usually rush to copy solutions from other countries,, but we never checked if their problems are similar to ours.
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by BluntCrazeMan(op): 5:32pm On Aug 22, 2022
femisplash:
Everybody knows corruption is a major problem, the next actionable plan is how to plug the loopholes.
This election is solution-focused. No media interview would major on problems or it root cause, we have identified all that since 1999. No candidate should keep pointing at problems anylonger, it's time for practical solutions.
Corruption is an after-effect..
Something causes Corruption.
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You don't know that.
So,, which loopholes Exactly are you plugging??
(Since you don't know how the holes got there in the first place..)
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Don't tell me that our leaders are so full,, that we discovered our problems since 1999 and never found solutions up till now?
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by Agboriotejoye(m): 5:35pm On Aug 22, 2022
BluntCrazeMan:
Everybody knows what.??
What are the root causes of corruption in Nigeria??
Do you know that.??
The root causes of corruption in Nigeria is nepotism and lack of adherence to the rule of law
People steal because they get in a position they don't merit and thus the next thing is to start thinking of what to benefit from the position
When they steal enough, they become big men who are too big for the arm of the law to reach
In my own experience, it is easier to find the problem than to get a true working solution.
For example, when Obi says Nigeria earned 1.3 trillion and spent 4 trillion, even a primary 3 pupil can see a problem in that of a shortfall of 2.7trillion.
The question is, what is the solution?
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by Prince111111: 5:37pm On Aug 22, 2022
mrvitalis:
That is a lie understanding a problem is 70% the solution what most people know are symptoms of the problem not the problem


Nigerians are poor is not a problem but symptoms of a problem ... understanding why Nigerians are poor is actually the problem

Nigerian politicians are corrupt is not a problem but symptoms the problem is what makes it possible to be corrupt and why people are allowed to be

Insecurity like obi said is not really a problem but a symptom of and underlying problem

Understanding a problem is key once it's done any idiot can't solve the problem
a car owner that has a faulty car could as well know the solution without even taking it to the mechanics because he already know the problem with the car right? What if he is wrong in his own knowledge of his faulty car? Funny you..a lot are wandering on the street knowing fully well about their problems but having issues in getting the solutions.
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by BluntCrazeMan(op): 5:39pm On Aug 22, 2022
YourhealthNG2:
Nigeria has never been short of plans or solutions. Even if there are no solutions to a particular problem, you can copy from other countries.

However, what is lacking in Nigeria is courage, determination and political will to implement solutions/plans.

Take security for instance, who does not know that state police will help improve security? So why hasn't it been done?

Who does not know that creation of job opportunities will reduce youth restiveness and insecurity? So why hasn't it been done?


Who does not know that cutting cost of running govt will free up huge resources that can be deployed for more human and infrastructural developments? So why hasn't this been done?

Who does not know that giving security agencies full licence to eliminate every bandit, armed Fulani herdsmen, unknown gun men, armed ESN, kidnapper, Boko Haram, Iswap, armed robber, cultists, etc will drastically reduce insecurity? So why is this not being done?

And so on and so forth..
The security problem in Nigeria is deeper than State Police..
What would you say about the reason why police and other security men collude and cooperate with these same criminals and bandits??
What causes such leaking of information and intelligence and logistics and weapons to them?? Do you Know?
The problem is deeper than State Police.
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As for the job creation..
Sheey na the type of N-POWER stuffs??
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We have a long way to go in Nigeria.
Nigeria is ready to be cultivated..
But people are there waiting for harvest.
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How can we harvest without cultivating?
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by BluntCrazeMan(op): 5:40pm On Aug 22, 2022
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Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by BluntCrazeMan(op): 5:40pm On Aug 22, 2022
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Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by iamdynamite(m): 5:41pm On Aug 22, 2022
GoooodHardDick:
If you don't know problems to a situation, how can you give the solution?

You have to know the problem First before embarking on the solution and that's exactly what peter Obi is doing.

Peter Obi is the incoming president FRN
so as you are like this,you don’t know the problem deviling this country?
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by femisplash: 5:41pm On Aug 22, 2022
BluntCrazeMan:
Corruption is an after-effect..
Something causes Corruption.
...
You don't know that.
So,, which loopholes Exactly are you plugging??
(Since you don't know how the holes got there in the first place..)
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Don't tell me that our leaders are so full,, that we discovered our problems since 1999 and never found solutions up till now?
You are only being rhetorical. Every one knows the peculiarities of Nigeria. We know the causes of poor Education, out of school children, insecurity etc. These causes have been at the front burner for a long period of time. It's time we provided solutions. We're done talking problems & root causes.
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by Agboriotejoye(m): 5:41pm On Aug 22, 2022
mrvitalis:
That is a lie understanding a problem is 70% the solution what most people know are symptoms of the problem not the problem


Nigerians are poor is not a problem but symptoms of a problem ... understanding why Nigerians are poor is actually the problem

Nigerian politicians are corrupt is not a problem but symptoms the problem is what makes it possible to be corrupt and why people are allowed to be

Insecurity like obi said is not really a problem but a symptom of and underlying problem

Understanding a problem is key once it's done any idiot can't solve the problem
I disagree. With your submission, you're just playing semantics. Politicians are corrupt. You say it's not a problem but we should go looking for what is making them corrupt. In order words, don't blame the politicians for being corrupt. Blame whatever it is that is making them corrupt. That's an ad hominem and a false narrative. Politicians being corrupt is a problem. Politicians don't present themselves to the populace as corrupt when they seek political offices. If they did, no one will vote them. So why get there and become corrupt?!!
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by mrvitalis(m): 5:41pm On Aug 22, 2022
Prince111111:
a car owner that has a faulty car could as well know the solution without even taking it to the mechanics because he already know the problem with the car right? What if he is wrong in his own knowledge of his faulty car? Funny you..a lot are wandering on the street knowing fully well about their problems but having issues in getting the solutions.
You can have an idea of what the problem is ...that's why he takes the car to mechanic not a painter , not a doctor , not and electrician ... someone he feels have the highest possibility of identifying then problem

Anambra was like Nigeria when obi took over ... exactly like Nigeria ...schools on strike , insecurity , unemployment and so forth ...he fixed it

Support who you think have the technical know how , the educational and professional experience , capacity to identify and treat Nigerians problem
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by BluntCrazeMan(op): 5:43pm On Aug 22, 2022
iamdynamite:
so as you are like this,you don’t know the problem deviling this country?
Whatever you're going to list right now as the problem with Nigeria are symptoms.
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If you think I'm telling a lie,, just try and list.
And I'm going to redirect you to a higher-level cause of it
Re: Knowing The Problems First Vs Knowing The Solution First, Which Is Better? by femisplash: 5:43pm On Aug 22, 2022
iamdynamite:
so as you are like this,you don’t know the problem deviling this country?
Maybe they've been living under a cave. Imagine adults with grown balls being ignorant of the problems bedeviling the country, unless these folks are little kids.
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