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emmaodet:
For some time now, things have been happening in my life which i can't really explain.
So many things happening and i am just at a cross-road.
First of all, i can't really say i am a deep Christain even if i am from a strong Christain home.
I have been a nominal Christain all along. I am neither her nor there when it comes to Christianity.
One leg in, one leg out.
During my low time in life, when things were very rough for me 5/6 years ago. My business/investment crumbled, financially at mess, i decided to sort spiritual help by seeking the face of God i so much doesn't really believe in but you know some situations just render you helpless and depressed.
SO i met this prophet in Ph. My concern about this man is that though he sees vision(or whatever it is) but he is too money conscious.
Tbh, he has told me many things about my past, told me many things about my wife and in-laws despits not knowing them nor met or seen them before.
He predicts 90% accurately (how he does that i don't know but he claims it is God)
Told me my FIL once worked as a doctor in saudi, how he came back and became broke.
He predicted i will get a work in saudi and it was true.
Predicted again he saw me working in Angola and it came to pass again. He told me this january this year ( he doesn't predict offpoint like you will work in Africa, No. he will call the country name whole haaaaa waaaa and it will be correct.
He said my former company will call me and give me a lump sum. Never believed him because i already left company 6 months ago and never heard the company do such. My brothers on nairaland, company called me oooo and paid me a lump sum.
Told me sooo many things, i mean so many things. So this is not about him being fake or heard info from somewhere.
It is either he is genuine or using voodoo. It can only be 1 out of these 2 options.
Now the issue is, he is toooo money conscious.
He has literarily turned me to his ATM machine.
First, he forced me to be paying tithe and it has to be his church. How will i be staying in lagos, going to church in lagos but paying tithe in Ph? does it really make any sense?
After so many pressure, i started doing that but i noticed he has graduated to other things.
He will tell me he saw this or this or if i explained some challenges am facing, he will tell me to raise so so so amount to solve it.
He has collected so much from me this year, bought some instruments for his church.
Now he claims i need to raise about 1.5m to pray for me else he sees them sacking me or reducing my salary where i work presently and it has to even be in dollars and not naira.
No be juju be this?
What kind of God ask millions and even requesting dollars to save me? what happens to prayers and fasting again? are those not working again? is tithe not working again?
Abeg, no be juju be this?
The man seems to have been running street on me.
I am not that stupid, i have been observant and keeping records of his request.
The only reason have been keeping him at arms length is just because of his visions but he is becoming a burden and something else to me.
Now requesting millions? to pray and avert only God knows what?
I am not that stupid. It took him a lot to convince me due to his near-accurate visions else i no get that time too for all these pastors.

My question is - how does he do it? how does he predicts nearly accurate events both past and future? it was what made me let down my guards with him

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Whenever i hear a grown man clearly stating all the redflags in a situation but is still confused, i know he has been hooked..

....U will still pay cos he don hook you...

Well I’ll say you’re kind of in a deep trap, some of these men are not dealing with God even though they prophesy accurately. The mistake you made is to ever believe there’s an intermediary between you and God, you can deliver yourself from any bad situation without having to go through any man of God, but the problem is maybe your lifestyle and obedience to the instructions of God. He might have seen and prophesy whatever but it’s all up to you to work and avert the so-called prophesy. People tends to underrate the effect of fasting, but I’m boldly telling you today that fasting does a lot of things to your soul, fast and tell God directly what you want, adjust your lifestyle and stay chaste. Do all these and you’ll get nothing but promotions rather the demotions and sack as predicted by the so-called man of God. If your wife is Christlike she can do wonders as God is very quick to grant the prayers of a wife on her husband. The monikas you mentioned to intervain won’t have anything meaningful to tell you because they are vague spiritually. Be wise to know the right counsel and advise you take.

Well I don't know about you ,but I avoid anything that looks like vision in my life.
I believe and rely only on my abilities.
As for the asking money from you part,you have to learn how to say no to people that want to earn from you for nothing in return.
Vision or no vision,those things would still have happened anyways,He just has psychic abilities and is monetizing it,very common phenomenon.
As for his prayers,they don't do nothing,just scare tactics to extort you.
If his prayers were so powerful,he won't be needing your N1.5m as he can pray his way into having it.
Tell him to go to hell and move on with your life,atleast that's what I would do.
Or better still ,ignore him henceforth.
Read messages and don't reply,ignore calls too,he will get the message.

advanceDNA:
Whenever i hear a grown man clearly stating all the redflags in a situation but is still confused, i know he has been hooked..

....U will still pay cos he don hook you...

The man has trapped him, I pray he gets out of it wisely. He’s vulnerable to the self acclaimed prophet. His greatest weakness so far is Fear.

Rozross:
The man has trapped him, I pray he gets out of it wisely. He’s vulnerable to the self acclaimed prophet. His greatest weakness so far is Fear.

Even if he gets out of it, his problems would still remain and increase and he would still enter another.

Rozross:
Well I’ll say you’re kind of in a deep trap, some of these men are not dealing with God even though they prophesy accurately. The mistake you made is to ever believe there’s an intermediary between you and God, you can deliver yourself from any bad situation without having to go through any man of God, but the problem is maybe your lifestyle and obedience to the instructions of God. He might have seen and prophesy whatever but it’s all up to you to work and avert the so-called prophesy. People tends to underrate the effect of fasting, but I’m boldly telling you today that fasting does a lot of things to your soul, fast and tell God directly what you want, adjust your lifestyle and stay chaste. Do all these and you’ll get nothing but promotions rather the demotions and sack as predicted by the so-called man of God. If your wife is Christlike she can do wonders as God is very quick to grant the prayers of a wife on her husband. The monikas you mentioned to intervain won’t have anything meaningful to tell you because they are vague spiritually. Be wise to know the right counsel and advise you take.

Rozross, i really appreciate your contribution and approach.
Before now, even though i don't believe in tithe or pay it, i have always made it a routine not to spend 10% of my money on myself.
I spend my 10% on the needy, widows, people around me who need help and am satisfied with their prayers and the smile i put on their face but ever since this man forced me to be paying to him, he is always on my neck for money t the extent i hardly help people anymore.
After all, i won't use all my money as giving or to churches. I still have my won church too on my neck yearning for commitment which i am not even doing again unlike before.
Do you know the most annoying thing? do pay my tithe to him. About 300k and within a week, he is back again requesting for money, saying he is broke.
Last month i gave him 300k, 1 wwek later he came and started lamenting about how he is broke. I didn't listen to him until he pressured me to give him 20k. 2 weeks later same story until i was forced t give him 10k.
This month same thing. After giving 300k, 1 week later pressure me to give him 10k and 4 days ago forced me to give him 5k.
I am just looking at him.
Presently i have blocked him because he is becoming a financial burden to me.

Dtruthspeaker:
Even if he gets out of it, his problems would still remain and increase and he would still enter another.

Haaaaa....kilode........ewo wa ni tepe? why will my problem increase?

Rozross:
The man has trapped him, I pray he gets out of it wisely. He’s vulnerable to the self acclaimed prophet. His greatest weakness so far is Fear.

How did you even get to see my thread so quick? because a sure you are not following me neither am i following your moniker

advanceDNA:
Whenever i hear a grown man clearly stating all the redflags in a situation but is still confused, i know he has been hooked..

....U will still pay cos he don hook you...

ROFLMAO!

Bro , that man has successfully created fear in you reason why you're so worried .
You need to first kill that fear to take a bold decision of freedom from fake prophet . Thereafter you can block him from contacting you and go back to God. Though never expect fast miracle while asking from God , it's take lot of patience to receive from God ..Shalom!

emmaodet:
Rozross, i really appreciate your contribution and approach.
Before now, even though i don't believe in tithe or pay it, i have always made it a routine not to spend 10% of my money on myself.
I spend my 10% on the needy, widows, people around me who need help and am satisfied with their prayers and the smile i put on their face but ever since this man forced me to be paying to him, he is always on my neck for money t the extent i hardly help people anymore.
After all, i won't use all my money as giving or to churches. I still have my won church too on my neck yearning for commitment which i am not even doing again unlike before.
Do you know the most annoying thing? do pay my tithe to him. About 300k and within a week, he is back again requesting for money, saying he is broke.
Last month i gave him 300k, 1 wwek later he came and started lamenting about how he is broke. I didn't listen to him until he pressured me to give him 20k. 2 weeks later same story until i was forced t give him 10k.
This month same thing. After giving 300k, 1 week later pressure me to give him 10k and 4 days ago forced me to give him 5k.
I am just looking at him.
Presently i have blocked him because he is becoming a financial burden to me.

Don’t submit to your fears over any prophesy whether true or not, be bold to call his bluff and put him in his rightful place. There’s nothing Godly about him, no true man of God will be so interested in money and milking you dry like he’s doing. You shouldn’t have blocked him outrightly, you should have made him irrelevant and useless by ignoring his messages and requests, he’ll gradually crawl back into his shell and unto his next victim. What you need do now is to totally release yourself from his grip and face your fears (prayers). Since you do all you do in your church and attend to the needy, you need not to entertain any fears.

emmaodet:
How did you even get to see my thread so quick? because a sure you are not following me neither am i following your moniker

� I was in religion section and was surprised to see you post there. You have no barrier between you and God so seek him directly and He’ll grant your requests.

advanceDNA:
Whenever i hear a grown man clearly stating all the redflags in a situation but is still confused, i know he has been hooked..

....U will still pay cos he don hook you...

exactly!!!! in all other areas, with so many redflags you would run to the hills...

emmaodet:
Haaaaa....kilode........ewo wa ni tepe? why will my problem increase?

ah egbô, you have seen it na. Without God problems only increase. And they increase on their own or you yourself would increase it.

You have to start from the beginning of you want to get out of this shits!

And what is the beginning? The Truth!

Which is do you know that no one else in the world can help you and bring you out of all your problems?

And that like a chess piece on the board, it's good or bad progress on the board (world) fully depends on the higher player who plays him, hence the rightness of that statement "we are pencils in the hand of the gods", do you know that is how you are?

These and many more foundational questions are you supposed to have settled so that you would always at least know what is going on.

emmaodet:
Rozross, i really appreciate your contribution and approach.
Before now, even though i don't believe in tithe or pay it, i have always made it a routine not to spend 10% of my money on myself.
I spend my 10% on the needy, widows, people around me who need help and am satisfied with their prayers and the smile i put on their face but ever since this man forced me to be paying to him, he is always on my neck for money t the extent i hardly help people anymore.
After all, i won't use all my money as giving or to churches. I still have my won church too on my neck yearning for commitment which i am not even doing again unlike before.
Do you know the most annoying thing? do pay my tithe to him. About 300k and within a week, he is back again requesting for money, saying he is broke.
Last month i gave him 300k, 1 wwek later he came and started lamenting about how he is broke. I didn't listen to him until he pressured me to give him 20k. 2 weeks later same story until i was forced t give him 10k.
This month same thing. After giving 300k, 1 week later pressure me to give him 10k and 4 days ago forced me to give him 5k.
I am just looking at him.
Presently i have blocked him because he is becoming a financial burden to me.

Error!

Paying tithes would not work!

Why?

He who breaks one of the Commandments BREAKS ALL!

Bostin:
Bro , that man has successfully created fear in you reason why you're so worried .
You need to first kill that fear to take a bold decision of freedom from fake prophet . Thereafter you can block him from contacting you and go back to God. Though never expect fast miracle while asking from God , it's take lot of patience to receive from God ..Shalom!

Thanks very much.
I appreciate.
I am already avoiding him.
I flagged him when i noticed the excessive money request and consciousness.

Dtruthspeaker:
Error!

Paying tithes would not work!

Why?

He who breaks one of the Commandments BREAKS ALL!

You speak in parables............the messages in your comments are hidden and needs more understanding to discern.
Can you shed more light on the bolded? which commandment have i broken?

Dtruthspeaker:
ah egbô, you have seen it na. Without God problems only increase. And they increase on their own or you yourself would increase it.

You have to start from the beginning of you want to get out of this shits!

And what is the beginning? The Truth!

Which is do you know that no one else in the world can help you and bring you out of all your problems?

And that like a chess piece on the board, it's good or bad progress on the board (world) fully depends on the higher player who plays him, hence the rightness of that statement "we are pencils in the hand of the gods", do you know that is how you are?

These and many more foundational questions are you supposed to have settled so that you would always at least know what is going on.

Without God problems only increase. And they increase on their own or you yourself would increase it. - How true is this your
statement?

You have to start from the beginning of you want to get out of this shits!
And what is the beginning? The Truth!
Which is do you know that no one else in the world can help you and bring you out of all your problems? Except who? God or myself?

And that like a chess piece on the board, it's good or bad progress on the board (world) fully depends on the higher player who plays him, hence the rightness of that statement "we are pencils in the hand of the gods", do you know that is how you are? - This is a parable again. Can you shed more light?

These and many more foundational questions are you supposed to have settled so that you would always at least know what is going on.
- I don't know but you sound like someone deep in some kind of esoteric religion.

emmaodet:
Thanks very much.
I appreciate.
I am already avoiding him.
I flagged him when i noticed the excessive money request and consciousness.

Every good things comes from God at the appointed time . Remember many people have being patronizing different spiritual vendors to no avail , if yours works out while seeing a particular prophet it's means is your God right appointed time but was coecidental with the prophet's magics. Start believing everything you are or have today is all from God for his appointed time and thank him always is enough for him .

Bostin:
Every good things comes from God at the appointed time . Remember many people have being patronizing different spiritual vendors to no avail , if yours works out while seeing a particular prophet it's means is your God right appointed time but was coecidental with the prophet's magics. Start believing everything you are or have today is all from God for his appointed time and thank him always is enough for him .

Okay. Thanks brother

With my experience in cases like this, what he has succeeded in doing is getting you hooked to him as he, by means of him helping you spiritually he knows much about you and how much you earn and he will not stop asking for funds and creating fears in you with prophecies that will most likely be false because he already told you the ones that come to past. He will continue manipulating you with the ones that will never happen just to feed on your fears and cash out from you. Tell him the spirit tells you it's time you give your tithe to the church you worship and see his reactions.. He has played his part in your life and its time to let go except you want to extend the olive branch once in a while to him.

emmaodet:
Presently i have blocked him because he is becoming a financial burden to me.

You don solve your problem already.

You also stated that before now, you used to give 10% of your income to the less privileged. I suggest you keep doing that instead of lining the pockets of one lasy MF.

As far as your conscience dey clean, every where go good.

cayorday89:
With my experience in cases like this, what he has succeeded in doing is getting you hooked to him as he, by means of him helping you spiritually he knows much about you and how much you earn and he will not stop asking for funds and creating fears in you with prophecies that will most likely be false because he already told you the ones that come to past. He will continue manipulating you with the ones that will never happen just to feed on your fears and cash out from you. Tell him the spirit tells you it's time you give your tithe to the church you worship and see his reactions.. He has played his part in your life and its time to let go except you want to extend the olive branch once in a while to him.

Exactly Kayode. I feel this particular prophecy is false and he is only banking on me believing him due to past once but there is a solution.
When he first told me about the money, he knew I would be against it. So in other not to look as if he is the one that needs it, he said it is not compulsory I pay it to him that I can use other church and that is exactly what I will do.
Any amount I decide to give out, will look for a poor church, motherless baby homes and spread it among them.
Shishi e no go see and I will watch his reaction

DanieleLorenzo:
You don solve your problem already.

You also stated that before now, you used to give 10% of your income to the less privileged. I suggest you keep doing that instead of lining the pockets of one lasy MF.

As far as your conscience dey clean, every where go good.

Thanks brother for your advice.

emmaodet:
For some time now, things have been happening in my life which i can't really explain.
So many things happening and i am just at a cross-road.
First of all, i can't really say i am a deep Christain even if i am from a strong Christain home.
I have been a nominal Christain all along. I am neither her nor there when it comes to Christianity.
One leg in, one leg out.
During my low time in life, when things were very rough for me 5/6 years ago. My business/investment crumbled, financially at mess, i decided to sort spiritual help by seeking the face of God i so much doesn't really believe in but you know some situations just render you helpless and depressed.
SO i met this prophet in Ph. My concern about this man is that though he sees vision(or whatever it is) but he is too money conscious.
Tbh, he has told me many things about my past, told me many things about my wife and in-laws despits not knowing them nor met or seen them before.
He predicts 90% accurately (how he does that i don't know but he claims it is God)
Told me my FIL once worked as a doctor in saudi, how he came back and became broke.
He predicted i will get a work in saudi and it was true.
Predicted again he saw me working in Angola and it came to pass again. He told me this january this year ( he doesn't predict offpoint like you will work in Africa, No. he will call the country name whole haaaaa waaaa and it will be correct.
He said my former company will call me and give me a lump sum. Never believed him because i already left company 6 months ago and never heard the company do such. My brothers on nairaland, company called me oooo and paid me a lump sum.
Told me sooo many things, i mean so many things. So this is not about him being fake or heard info from somewhere.
It is either he is genuine or using voodoo. It can only be 1 out of these 2 options.
Now the issue is, he is toooo money conscious.
He has literarily turned me to his ATM machine.
First, he forced me to be paying tithe and it has to be his church. How will i be staying in lagos, going to church in lagos but paying tithe in Ph? does it really make any sense?
After so many pressure, i started doing that but i noticed he has graduated to other things.
He will tell me he saw this or this or if i explained some challenges am facing, he will tell me to raise so so so amount to solve it.
He has collected so much from me this year, bought some instruments for his church.
Now he claims i need to raise about 1.5m to pray for me else he sees them sacking me or reducing my salary where i work presently and it has to even be in dollars and not naira.
No be juju be this?
What kind of God ask millions and even requesting dollars to save me? what happens to prayers and fasting again? are those not working again? is tithe not working again?
Abeg, no be juju be this?
The man seems to have been running street on me.
I am not that stupid, i have been observant and keeping records of his request.
The only reason have been keeping him at arms length is just because of his visions but he is becoming a burden and something else to me.
Now requesting millions? to pray and avert only God knows what?
I am not that stupid. It took him a lot to convince me due to his near-accurate visions else i no get that time too for all these pastors.

My question is - how does he do it? how does he predicts nearly accurate events both past and future? it was what made me let down my guards with him

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SeaTrade
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Raalsalghul
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ubunja

Most of them uses voodoo to predict or see the future. The problem is most Nigerians just want a smooth road in the journey of life there by replying on all this prophet of doom. If you are not careful they will ruin your life.

I once had this same encounter with a prophet some years ago. This man even told me I was bearing a name I didn't know about. I had to ask my parents and it was true. He said so many things that messed up with my psych for years. I had to cut him off and face my life head on.

Delete the man's number and block him or change your line. Because if you don't you will forever be his slave and your children will take over from where you stopped.

emmaodet:
] - How true is this your statement?

Just go check all the other options or continue with what you are doing, see if your life would be better.

He is scamming you. Cut off these pastors, they have nothing tangible to offer. Forget about his so-called "prophecies." Don't be afraid of cutting him off and how he will react; his leverage against you is your belief in his authenticity and fear.

Hopefullandlord, check this out. My friend will need your advice. I know you know the tricks of these pastorpreneurs.

emmaodet:
Rozross, i really appreciate your contribution and approach.
Before now, even though i don't believe in tithe or pay it, i have always made it a routine not to spend 10% of my money on myself.
I spend my 10% on the needy, widows, people around me who need help and am satisfied with their prayers and the smile i put on their face but ever since this man forced me to be paying to him, he is always on my neck for money t the extent i hardly help people anymore.
After all, i won't use all my money as giving or to churches. I still have my won church too on my neck yearning for commitment which i am not even doing again unlike before.
Do you know the most annoying thing? do pay my tithe to him. About 300k and within a week, he is back again requesting for money, saying he is broke.
Last month i gave him 300k, 1 wwek later he came and started lamenting about how he is broke. I didn't listen to him until he pressured me to give him 20k. 2 weeks later same story until i was forced t give him 10k.
This month same thing. After giving 300k, 1 week later pressure me to give him 10k and 4 days ago forced me to give him 5k.
I am just looking at him.
Presently i have blocked him because he is becoming a financial burden to me.

The guy is a really cashing out at your expense. Anyway, I became a prophet yesterday after God's holy call; with just 250k, I will fix your spiritual problems. In fact, I have a vision for you now. Wire me now.

Na play I dey play. Just cut him off.

Martinez39s:
The guy is a really cashing out at your expense. Anyway, I became a prophet yesterday after God's holy call; with just 250k, I will fix your spiritual problems. In fact, I have a vision for you now. Wire me now.

Na play I dey play. Just cut him off.

You are not serious.
Yes, have done the needful.

Martinez39s:
He is scamming you. Cut off these pastors, they have nothing tangible to offer. Forget about his so-called "prophecies." Don't be afraid of cutting him off and how he will react; his leverage against you is your belief in his authenticity and fear.

Hopefullandlord, check this out. My friend will need your advice. I know you know the tricks of these pastorpreneurs.

The guy is being manipulated and doesn't know it yet. that pastor actually sees nothing but here's how I can help him prove this man is a fraud....he will pay my road transport to port Harcourt, I'd add Money and take flight instead then I'd know what to do from there to expose him. who am i kidding? he's going to pay that 1.5M because........

“ It's Easier to Fool People Than It Is to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled .”