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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by CondemnBattery(f): 9:36am On Sep 04, 2022
I would have answered everyone that quoted me, but from the replies above, alot of contributors have made justice to the questions the OP asked, and I won't be drawn to baseless arguments.
However, if you think I'm empty, then congratulations to you .
That said, so I won't sound repetitive mentioning Venezuela, Cuba and co.
Do you really think if printing more money was the solution, countries like the United States, Russia, England and even China will be owing?
If you'd taken your studies serious, you would have known more printed money in any economy is catastrophic and detrimental to every society.
Hence I stand by my initial stance, that your question/suggestions of printing more money is not just dumb, but stupid. Happy Sunday
PNomsule:
I know dumb people when I see them. If you read the post and this is only what you could come up with, I say na u dumb pass. Dumbo! grin

Nothing to contribute because u know why, u are empty!!!
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by steveodo(m): 9:39am On Sep 04, 2022
It will interest you to know that the amount paid for production of 1000 note is more than 1000. For instance it may take a country 1100 to print a thousand note of her currency. It's called seigniorage
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Mckandre(m): 9:39am On Sep 04, 2022
jumper524:
the dollar is the highest currency in circulation and its still valuable. There's cash shortage in Nigeria, go to market and see shops overstocked with little or no buyer, inflation can only happen if shops are not overstocked.
don't forget some business men intentionally hoard goods to reduce supply and cause increase in demand, thereby leading to increase in price of goods and services. People somewhere somehow re contributing to the menace.
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Antivirus92(m): 9:40am On Sep 04, 2022
CondemnBattery:
Dumb question
ah swear, the question sounds so dumb though the op has every right to ask questions .
For top countries not to have been doing that should have given him a clue that it is not economically wise.
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by PNomsule(op): 9:41am On Sep 04, 2022
emmaodet:
Let me come from the angle of price control.
Let’s assume you give all citizens 5m each and price control for all goods are activated. It will take like 10,000 Nigerians holding 5m each to buy up most lands in nigeria at the rate of 500k per plot assuming price is controlled.
What happens to the millions of people left? Who have 5m at hand and also wishes to have Atleast a plot?
Corruption sets in. Bribing, lobbying starts which results in more money chasing fewer goods …..inflation.
If it is not bread, it will be car, bags of rice and palm oil, Garri etc
What many don't know is that, excess supply of money does not neccessarily means everyone will go for bread, cars or consumption purposes. Progressive Capitalists will channel more of it to production and that is why a wise wealthy man once said, if you take away all my wealth, I will bounce back. Invariably, if you give people who only think consumption when money is handed them, in no distant time, will return broke.
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by kalvoken(m): 9:41am On Sep 04, 2022
RZArecta:
you're not a financial analyst oga, stop lying and even if you insist you are then you're obviously very terrible at your job and I'll advise every sane person to run away from you
Someone that's veen feeding on agbado, cassava and yam consistently on daily basis, can not reason normal na.
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Mckandre(m): 9:42am On Sep 04, 2022
naijapips04:
Production by importation? What has he ever produced?
don't turn this into a political fracas undecided
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by vertueptime: 9:43am On Sep 04, 2022
PNomsule:
I am really just curious as to "why can't we just print more money and solve the poverty problem in the country?"

Terms like "inflation" and the "devaluing of the naira" are the usual buzz answers to that question. Also, people give the example that if we were to print more money and just give everyone N5,000,000 for example, then everyone would go out and buy things, thus making "THINGS" more scarce and in short supply and hence driving up the prices of things (simple demand/supply economics). But herein lies the catch for me... With TRUE unemployment rate somewhere around 33% in the country, if DEMAND for "THINGS" rose, then I would think that companies would WANT to hire more people and build more processing plants to keep up with demand and raise their profits. So, the influx of cash (printed money) would seem to solve the unemployment problem.

Again, we have agencies that regulates pricing in the economy: PPPRA, Price Control Board (Ministry of Commerce) etc, with those, can't the likely over pricing of commodities (THINGS) be controlled and gazetted to avoid the story of "too much money chasing fewer goods"?

In the final analysis, a robust and health competitive economy would have been created and underemployment issues largely solved.

Economists and Analysts lets discuss?
Even cost of printing is an issue

Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by emmaodet: 9:44am On Sep 04, 2022
PNomsule:
What many don't know is that, excess supply of money does not neccessarily means everyone will go for bread, cars or consumption purposes. Progressive Capitalists will channel more of it to production and that is why a wise wealthy man once said, if you take away all my wealth, I will bounce back. Invariably, if you give people who only think consumption when money is handed them, in no distant time, will return broke.
Of course, consumers will return broke. Unfortunately, most humans are consumers so we will be back to ground zero again and people start calling for printing more money again which would be consumed in the future anyway.
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by PNomsule(op): 9:45am On Sep 04, 2022
grin grin grin grin
steveodo:
It will interest you to know that the amount paid for production of 1000 note is more than 1000. For instance it may take a country 1100 to print a thousand note of her currency. It's called seigniorage
Pardon my laughter but I couldn't just help it. See the meaning of seigniorage again my friend and modify your post please.

And by the way, it has never cost more money to print more Naira notes. In 2020, it cost Nigeria N18 to print N100
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Tobijays: 9:46am On Sep 04, 2022
JoshTim:
You need to be flogged. I swear. Which Russia doesn't follow theory?


I need to use oraimo cord on you
so tell me which one of the theories they used
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by descarado: 9:46am On Sep 04, 2022
PNomsule:
I fancy the points you noted however, from the post I made, how do you see the aspect of Price Control Mechanism as a critical vehicle to combat and stiffle inflation before it rears its ugly head, say on bread for example?
Guy, rest the unnecessary argument.
Even usa that prints anyhow still depend on other countries to mope up the excesses hence they orchestrates war and unrest all over the world. North Korea that's a dictator socialist country don't dare print not to talk of a consumer country like Nigeria.

A consumer country is a dead country. During the first tenure of buhari, they kept on printing and borrowing. Wonder why we have hyperinflation and a dollar equals almost 709 naira in black market. Print more and see dollar become 2k in a twinkle of an eye.
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Tianamen1: 9:47am On Sep 04, 2022
@PNomsule. If there was no international trade, your idea of printing money may not lead to inflation. You’re quite smart and I wish the best for you. Try to leave that country.

Let me explain. If nigeria earns $100 as foreign exchange in a year and the total amount of naira in circulation in that year is 100 naira, the local value of the naira to the dollar will be 1:1. So for every naira, Nigerians will be able to purchase things an American. Can purchase with 1 dollar. Thus the demand for foreign goods will be high. The lower the price of a foreign good the higher the quantity demanded(opposite side of the demand law).

If we increased the amount of naira in circulation to 1000 and we are still only earning 100 dollars, using basic math, each naira will represent 10 dollars. If we fail to raise the price of the dollars, we will runout of dollars because people have more naira than they had before and the amount of dollars the country has is still the same. What this implies is that the Nigerian will now need 10 naira to purchase foreign goods worth 1 dollars, so within Nigeria, foreign goods have become more expensive.

I hope my explanation is understandable. If there is a flaw in my logic, do not fail to mention it. Nice topic and intelligent question.

Ps

In 2008, all major countries , simultaneously increased the amount of money in supply in their local economies. Most countries had a zero net effect on inflation. Only Greece in Europe suffered massively as they hardly produce anything.
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Wrecxman(m): 9:47am On Sep 04, 2022
PNomsule:
My problem is those responding and claiming financial experts are simply regurgitating textbook inflation analysis which I already envisaged in my post.
They respond that way because that is the way they have been programmed to think (taught).

People quickly throw up the Zimbabwe situation as an example to counter your point but the thing is, Zimbabwe has not printed 1/100000 of what the mega money printers (i.e. USA, EU and China) have done.

Fitch ratings alone could wreck an economy in the twinkle of an eye. But who "controls" Fitch?

Closely followed by "inflation" (though invisible to many), is balance of power....
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by descarado: 9:49am On Sep 04, 2022
Mckandre:
don't forget some business men intentionally hoard goods to reduce supply and cause increase in demand, thereby leading to increase in price of goods and services. People somewhere somehow re contributing to the menace.
Nobody is contributing to anything.
Anything happening to Nigerian economy is 100% caused by the hovernment of the day.

A consumer economy is a dead economy.
ECO 101 summation.
Business people flow with the tide.
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Komu1048(m): 9:49am On Sep 04, 2022
RZArecta:
you're not a financial analyst oga, stop lying and even if you insist you are then you're obviously very terrible at your job and I'll advise every sane person to run away from you
Thought u have something meaningful upstairs, just another condemnation and no solution is provided. Let me continue reading and see if I will read someone better than you
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Jaisman26(m): 9:51am On Sep 04, 2022
PNomsule:
I am really just curious as to "why can't we just print more money and solve the poverty problem in the country?"

Terms like "inflation" and the "devaluing of the naira" are the usual buzz answers to that question. Also, people give the example that if we were to print more money and just give everyone N5,000,000 for example, then everyone would go out and buy things, thus making "THINGS" more scarce and in short supply and hence driving up the prices of things (simple demand/supply economics). But herein lies the catch for me... With TRUE unemployment rate somewhere around 33% in the country, if DEMAND for "THINGS" rose, then I would think that companies would WANT to hire more people and build more processing plants to keep up with demand and raise their profits. So, the influx of cash (printed money) would seem to solve the unemployment problem.

Again, we have agencies that regulates pricing in the economy: PPPRA, Price Control Board (Ministry of Commerce) etc, with those, can't the likely over pricing of commodities (THINGS) be controlled and gazetted to avoid the story of "too much money chasing fewer goods"?

In the final analysis, a robust and health competitive economy would have been created and underemployment issues largely solved.

Economists and Analysts lets discuss?
Where is the middle ground on money printing?
Now we have to marry the positives of money printing and “inflation” fears. We live in uncertain times and while the Nigerian government is still recovering from the damaging effects of a pandemic that is still out there, it is prudent to view money printing as “contingency planning.” The government has an obligation to achieve macroeconomic objectives – albeit responsibly.

The only way to clamp down on the potential inflation from money printing is through an increase in economic activity to be commensurate with the amount of money that is created. An increase in output will increase the number of goods in the markets and that would counter the “too much money chasing too few goods” narrative of inflation.

This is where the Federal Government comes in. If the government wants the carte blanche of printing money, there has to be economic activities to bridge the gap of money supply and demand.

To do this, the Government has to find a way of increasing economic activities through policies and schemes to get people working and producing. The ripple effect of this would lead to companies and industries expanding, where tax generation would increase and a more organic way of creating money would spur economic growth.

The Finance Minister, this week reported that the Federal Government has generated 73% of targeted revenue so far from 2021 and in the first 8 months of the year, the Federal Government has spent 74% of revenue servicing debt. Nigeria’s public debts need to be addressed. If public debt increases arithmetically, revenue has to increase exponentially. That is how the country can curb unhealthy debts.

Speaking of debts, states need to pay up the loan created by the Central Bank a few years ago. The N614 billion credit facilities given to states in budget support and bailouts to enable them pay salaries in the past cannot be swept under the carpet. State governments need to do more in internal revenue generation through state-coordinated economic activities.

As long as the money printing option is still open, we should keep an eye on the total debt-to-GDP ratio (currently less than 35%) to see the long-term effects of money supply so as to not risk reducing the value of the domestic currency. Nigeria has to find a “sustainable” fiscal path so that the nation’s debt does not overrun the economy. #Copied
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by bigtt76(f): 9:51am On Sep 04, 2022
If you print more naira, how would you sustain your economy that depends on foreign imports for survival? Your printed naira would be more than available dollars for imports resulting in hyper inflation



PNomsule:
I am really just curious as to "why can't we just print more money and solve the poverty problem in the country?"

Terms like "inflation" and the "devaluing of the naira" are the usual buzz answers to that question. Also, people give the example that if we were to print more money and just give everyone N5,000,000 for example, then everyone would go out and buy things, thus making "THINGS" more scarce and in short supply and hence driving up the prices of things (simple demand/supply economics). But herein lies the catch for me... With TRUE unemployment rate somewhere around 33% in the country, if DEMAND for "THINGS" rose, then I would think that companies would WANT to hire more people and build more processing plants to keep up with demand and raise their profits. So, the influx of cash (printed money) would seem to solve the unemployment problem.

Again, we have agencies that regulates pricing in the economy: PPPRA, Price Control Board (Ministry of Commerce) etc, with those, can't the likely over pricing of commodities (THINGS) be controlled and gazetted to avoid the story of "too much money chasing fewer goods"?

In the final analysis, a robust and health competitive economy would have been created and underemployment issues largely solved.

Economists and Analysts lets discuss?
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by emmaodet: 9:53am On Sep 04, 2022
PNomsule:
It appears the responders I'm getting on this issue are plain textbook analysis and not even addressing the issues from the points I posited, especially that the fears you raised, my post envisaged it already?

Can prices be controlled, if not what then is the usefulness of the Pricing Regulatory & Control bodies we have in the country?

What happens to the urgency of Capitalists to get more people employed as to meet rising demands associated naturally from too much money chasing fewer goods?
How many agencies are functioning and useful in the first place?
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Archworld(m):
PNomsule:
I am really just curious as to "why can't we just print more money and solve the poverty problem in the country?"

Terms like "inflation" and the "devaluing of the naira" are the usual buzz answers to that question. Also, people give the example that if we were to print more money and just give everyone N5,000,000 for example, then everyone would go out and buy things, thus making "THINGS" more scarce and in short supply and hence driving up the prices of things (simple demand/supply economics). But herein lies the catch for me... With TRUE unemployment rate somewhere around 33% in the country, if DEMAND for "THINGS" rose, then I would think that companies would WANT to hire more people and build more processing plants to keep up with demand and raise their profits. So, the influx of cash (printed money) would seem to solve the unemployment problem.

Again, we have agencies that regulates pricing in the economy: PPPRA, Price Control Board (Ministry of Commerce) etc, with those, can't the likely over pricing of commodities (THINGS) be controlled and gazetted to avoid the story of "too much money chasing fewer goods"?

In the final analysis, a robust and health competitive economy would have been created and underemployment issues largely solved.

Economists and Analysts lets discuss?
If you were given #5m and every other poor person or middle-class people were to receive the same or more higher amount, will you still go farm to work? Will the bus conductor or driver still perform his duty? Will the #100 tomatoes seller still sell her goods in market? There shall be no sales girl anymore , janitor, suck-away fixer, baker , tv repairer , Akara seller and so many things/profession. The scarcity of them will further raise their prices and the cost of Labour and before you know it, too much money will be in the circulation chasing akara, tomatoes, pepper , salt cos nobody is ready to go farm and farm it.

And if too much money keeps on chasing the scarce resources, it means very soon , everyone will still become poor when they have spent all their money chasing the little goods/services available. You could pay #5m just to barb your hair . Why? It's because, no barber will want to render services at #150 when he's already a millionaire over night, especially the iliterate millionaire. You have money, he has money too so for him to render you the usual service, you must lure him with better money. Think about the kerosene hawker. Do you think if the hawker receives #5m she will stil hawk kerosene or continue the business? I am an accountant, And very committed in my job . I equally run a business but I tell you the main reason I work is to gather money and expand my business. So if i were to receive #10m now , I wil fire my employer. I would want better life , don't want to settler for the less. Same way every other worker who will suddenly receive such money. They want better life now. And Other meaner jobs will suffer too

Professionally, accountants wouldn't pick job of 70k because house rent or self-contain must have jumped to 800k/annum , same way he needs to take care of other needs . #50 pepper will jump to #50,000.

Have you ever noticed whenever Federal government increase minimum wage , food prices also go up ?
Everything must balance, nobody wants to be cheated whether employed or not. The tomatoes seller would want to collect their own share of the increment from your pocket by slightly increasing the prices of tomatoes
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by PNomsule(op): 9:54am On Sep 04, 2022
emmaodet:
Of course, consumers will return broke. Unfortunately, most humans are consumers so we will be back to ground zero again and people start calling for printing more money again which would be consumed in the future anyway.
In todays world, many are learning from experience. So you would have more people tending towards production capitalism than consumption socialism.

Capitalism again doesn't necessarily mean high margin or returns. Dangote make fractions on the sale of a sachet of salt for example
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Komu1048(m): 9:55am On Sep 04, 2022
Sucre6:
As an economist let me make this as clear as possible in lay man terms

Printing more money will lead to what is called money illusion when huge amount of money is chasing little amount of goods/services.

Printing more money will make the money valueless, which will plunge the country into deep stagflation, which is high unemployment and inflation join together.

Countries that their money has money value than ours would not invest in the economy.

Prices of things will skyrocket like mad, imagine having ten million naira and a price of big loaf of bread is one million naira, u end up spending ten million naira just to feed for 3 days.

With the ridiculous way the value of the money would be the country can't even import anything which will lead to more poverty, even the so call rich men and women would eventually run out of money to spend.

It's a scary situation, during covid 19, tinubu suggested that government should just print more money, I read the news and laughed at his nonchalant statement, which clearly shows that he understands nothing in money generation or managing the resources of the nation, reason why I will vote for Peter obi, not out of sentiment but out of the fact that he understands the uniqueness of Nigeria situation and knows how to economically tackle it.
If you want to debate tinubu regime n Peter Obi as govt. the state of their state when they were governor and what they left behind as at now. I will flaw you mercilessly, don’t compare a dog with a lion. I have stayed in the two state I can tell you how it was n how they left it. Abeg shift
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by jeffoe(m): 9:58am On Sep 04, 2022
Tobijays:
so tell me which one of the theories they used
interest rate increase, capital flow restrictions. Their central banker is one of the finest economist in the world
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Sucre6: 9:59am On Sep 04, 2022
Komu1048:
If you want to debate tinubu regime n Peter Obi as govt. the state of their state when they were governor and what they left behind as at now. I will flaw you mercilessly, don’t compare a dog with a lion. I have stayed in the two state I can tell you how it was n how they left it. Abeg shift
U understand little or nothing about economy and money generation, so I won't banter words with u
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by YourMrBoo: 9:59am On Sep 04, 2022
PNomsule:
So my question remains valid, can we print more money and engage same in "viable agricultural crop & meat production" as to employ more able bodied men & women as to fight unemployment and by extension, poverty?
No
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Albertgr8: 10:00am On Sep 04, 2022
NotBeenPaid:

They've been printing more money in secret which they loot. Remember, sometime ago Obaseki accused CBN of printing monies for private pockets.
We know the truth
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Passionnn: 10:00am On Sep 04, 2022
A305:
Not technically the best option to solve inflation and it would cause more inflation because there would be too much money in circulation chasing fewer goods. This tends to weaken the value of the currency till one loaf of bread could be sold for one million, a text book example of what happened in Zimbabwe some years back.

Zimbabwe kept printing more money to cushion inflation and kept introducing new currency face value until they had one million note face value. It ended in chaos, poverty and protest for a regime change.

So, what you should understand is money management is key factor to stimulating and running the country's economy, when you ruin that by printing more money, you tend to ruin the country itself.

What CBN does to tackle inflation is raise interest rates to discourage banks from lending out the money that creates new money in the system. As every loan in the system creates new money.
Thank you for the concise analysis.
The op is simply trying to validate a hollow and opiumic option suggested by one agbado master

Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Sucre6: 10:02am On Sep 04, 2022
Frezhkid10:
But the USA and other western nations printed cash to sustain their economy but we can’t because they told us it will cause inflation...
I don’t support tinubu ooo..but you see that printing cash idea he brought was the best thing for Nigeria at that time..
Lols, you can't compare consuming nation to a producing nation, other country may trive she they print more currency becusee they are are producing state, the money in circulation ends in production circle, which is mostly they export to other needy nations like Nigeria whom are readily available to consume just anything thrown at them, but a country that produces little and consumes everything came fall on printing more money, it will plung the economy into irredeemable inflation..

Reference Zimbabwe
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by PNomsule(op): 10:02am On Sep 04, 2022
It was for intelligent ideas as this that this tread was created.

Tianamen1:
@PNomsule. If there was no international trade, your idea of printing money may not lead to inflation. You’re quite smart and I wish the best for you. Try to leave that country.

Let me explain. If nigeria earns $100 as foreign exchange in a year and the total amount of naira in circulation in that year is 100 naira, the local value of the naira to the dollar will be 1:1. So for every naira, Nigerians will be able to purchase things an American. Can purchase with 1 dollar. Thus the demand for foreign goods will be high. The lower the price of a foreign good the higher the quantity demanded(opposite side of the demand law).

If we increased the amount of naira in circulation to 1000 and we are still only earning 100 dollars, using basic math, each naira will represent 10 dollars. If we fail to raise the price of the dollars, we will runout of dollars because people have more naira than they had before and the amount of dollars the country has is still the same. What this implies is that the Nigerian will now need 10 naira to purchase foreign goods worth 1 dollars, so within Nigeria, foreign goods have become more expensive.

I hope my explanation is understandable. If there is a flaw in my logic, do not fail to mention it. Nice topic and intelligent question.

Ps

In 2008, all major countries , simultaneously increased the amount of money in supply in their local economies. Most countries had a zero net effect on inflation. Only Greece in Europe suffered massively as they hardly produce anything.
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by chatinent: 10:03am On Sep 04, 2022
Economically, while it sounds like a good ear option, it is actually the worst reality option to do.


If you have printed money, and I have printed money, do you think I'll keep rendering my petty services for peanuts? Now imagine everyone has the money and I still decide to render it, absolutely, if I am the only one doing it, one cup of garri will now be N500k...why? You can't get it anywhere.

People will move from production to consumption: another economy killer.



Our current recession now is that the CBN already prints money for private pockets. That inflow is what killing the country.

And what is more? We use it for consumption!


But here's a truth as a political scientist, all monetary policies promote capitalism....they are meant to keep the poor in their place. Because politically, if everyone gets rich, like printing money and distributing for everyone, omo, the caste system will be destroyed.

Just another school of thought.
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Ofadaman(m): 10:03am On Sep 04, 2022
They already printed more money during the COVID times and in borrowing to the govt ,that's how prices of items are soaring.

Understand that the resources we need are limited, e.g land, food, gas etc., Understand that once an infinite supply item is used to purchase a finite item ,demand will exceed supply,so how do you decide whom go sell what to, you sell to the highest bidder, and because everyone has money (including the guy who is selling you the foodstuff), then what is the incentive for him to sell you his items if he doesn't get more in return because someone else also has free money and will be happy to buy at higher price.

Money needs to be backed by productivity , printing more money hurts people who have saved for years because the moment you print ,you introduce cheap money not backed by any form of work to dilute hardwork of workers and savers.


You can't also print money to settle international debt, know this ,grisham law, if money because too inflated, people will not hold it, instead they'd spend it and keep real money and real money can be anything else, e.f.gold.,silver, food, land etc. If everyone gets 5million today, no one will hold the naira, it will be a rush to convert to tangible assets (other money). Whoever ends up holding the naira will discover it's worthless and no form of control the pppra can do to enforce it if the Public refuse to accept it
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