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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Rich4god(m): 8:36am On Sep 04, 2022
What you don't know is that, off recent, CBN printed more money to pay off some internal debt.... See where our naira is.

Most strong currency is the world have fewer denomination. That also help in stabilizing the currency..
The theory is, the fewer value of your currency circulating helps stabilize the currency.

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Farid24224(m): 8:37am On Sep 04, 2022
CondemnBattery:
Dumb question

Actually it's not..

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Honchoslim16(m): 8:37am On Sep 04, 2022
Youngin get that money, f¥©k the plug...runoff
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Brian47(m): 8:39am On Sep 04, 2022
Ask the president of Zimbabwe

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by emerged01(m): 8:39am On Sep 04, 2022
RZArecta:
you're not a financial analyst oga, stop lying and even if you insist you are then you're obviously very terrible at your job and I'll advise every sane person to run away from you
Bros,we are all here to learn,he can also learn from you. Attacking him is childish and uncalled for. Simply,response to him with your view on the topic.

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Heterodox(m): 8:39am On Sep 04, 2022
Capitalism is what's destroying the world.


The real economics is people taking only what they need to live through the day, at max through the year.


Every other thing will fail

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by GloriousGbola: 8:40am On Sep 04, 2022
google 1920s hyperinflation

also zimbabwe inflation


when you have a limited supply of goods and you increase the supply of money - you get inflation. this is why most of these wage increases being demanded ony lead to increased prices in the long run - because it is more money chasing fewer goods.

it should be noted though, that during covid 19, western govts printed money - but the west has never had a shortage of goods

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by PNomsule: 8:41am On Sep 04, 2022
CondemnBattery:
Dumb question

I know dumb people when I see them. If you read the post and this is only what you could come up with, I say na u dumb pass. Dumbo! grin

Nothing to contribute because u know why, u are empty!!!

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Nobody: 8:42am On Sep 04, 2022
It's an option FG would have considered had it been they don't have to go abroad to print 1k at a cost of 5k . Nigeria has no life of it's own Nigeria life belongs to foreign countries who refines our oil, mint our money and care for our sucks.

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by kamalbob(m): 8:43am On Sep 04, 2022
PNomsule:
I am really just curious as to "why can't we just print more money and solve the poverty problem in the country?"

Terms like "inflation" and the "devaluing of the naira" are the usual buzz answers to that question. Also, people give the example that if we were to print more money and just give everyone N5,000,000 for example, then everyone would go out and buy things, thus making "THINGS" more scarce and in short supply and hence driving up the prices of things (simple demand/supply economics). But herein lies the catch for me... With TRUE unemployment rate somewhere around 33% in the country, if DEMAND for "THINGS" rose, then I would think that companies would WANT to hire more people and build more processing plants to keep up with demand and raise their profits. So, the influx of cash (printed money) would seem to solve the unemployment problem.

Again, we have agencies that regulates pricing in the economy: PPPRA, Price Control Board (Ministry of Commerce) etc, with those, can't the likely over pricing of commodities (THINGS) be controlled and gazetted to avoid the story of "too much money chasing fewer goods"?

In the final analysis, a robust and health competitive economy would have been created and underemployment issues largely solved.

Economists and Analysts lets discuss?

Easy to say if you don't know how money or printing in general works. As an expert in printing (academically) let me wrap it up in a short note. Money are printed on gramage paper which cost a lot, also the security prints on those papers before the actual print is done also cost huge amount of money.

So in a nutshell, you have to spend money to print money. If not because of this obstruction, those greedy politicians will print money like tomorrow no dey I'm telling you

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by PNomsule: 8:43am On Sep 04, 2022
GloriousGbola:
google 1920s hyperinflation

also zimbabwe inflation


when you have a limited supply of goods and you increase the supply of money - you get inflation. this is why most of these wage increases being demanded ony lead to increased prices in the long run - because it is more money chasing fewer goods.

it should be noted though, that during covid 19, western govts printed money - but the west has never had a shortage of goods



Also read the post first ...
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Sergio104(m): 8:45am On Sep 04, 2022
If you don't want this treatment cool

Selling money in market

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by naijapips04: 8:46am On Sep 04, 2022
Sucre6:
As an economist let me make this as clear as possible in lay man terms

Printing more money will lead to what is called money illusion when huge amount of money is chasing little amount of goods/services.

Printing more money will make the money valueless, which will plunge the country into deep stagflation, which is high unemployment and inflation join together.

Countries that their money has money value than ours would not invest in the economy.

Prices of things will skyrocket like mad, imagine having ten million naira and a price of big loaf of bread is one million naira, u end up spending ten million naira just to feed for 3 days.

With the ridiculous way the value of the money would be the country can't even import anything which will lead to more poverty, even the so call rich men and women would eventually run out of money to spend.

It's a scary situation, during covid 19, tinubu suggested that government should just print more money, I read the news and laughed at his nonchalant statement, which clearly shows that he understands nothing in money generation or managing the resources of the nation, reason why I will vote for Peter obi, not out of sentiment but out of the fact that he understands the uniqueness of Nigeria situation and knows how to economically tackle it.

So what was Peter Obis suggestion?

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Spells(m): 8:47am On Sep 04, 2022
This question has always troubled many.
Let me explain in a very simple way.


First things first. It is the Reserve Bank of Nigeria know as the country's central bank, that decides how much notes have to be printed. This decision is a part of CBN monetary policy - the policy that determines the amount of money in the economy.

Now, the very pertinent question - since the country is free to print any number of notes it wants, why doesn't it produce billions of Naira and distribute it among people and end all the poverty in one go?

Let us assume there are only 3 people in a country: Obina, Funke and Musa having a wealth of Naira. 300, 200 and 100 respectively. Also, there is just one commodity in the country that all three of them would buy using up all their wealth.
Therefore, total wealth in the country = #600 (300+200+100)
Total commodity in the country: 60 kgs of rice.
Since they use their entire wealth to buy this commodity only, the price of rice would be = #10 per kg (600/60).
At this rate, Obinna can buy 30kg of rice, Funke buys 20kg and Musa buys 10kg of rice.

One day they get hold of a currency-printing machine. They decided to double their money by simply printing more notes.
Now they have Naira 600, 400 and 200 respectively.
Total wealth now = Naira 1200
But total commodity in the country is still 60kgs of rice.
The new price of rice = 1200/60 = #20 per kg
They go to buy the rice. With 600 bucks, Obinna would still be able to buy the same 30kgs only, Funke 20kg and Musa 10kg! Damn! They realised how futile it was to print those notes.
Merely printing of notes doesn't do good to anyone. If the total money supply is increased disproportionately to the increase of goods (and services) in the country, it only leads to devaluation of the currency. Although their wealth doubled, the value of their currency got halved.
Therefore, to really become rich, they need to increase production of goods (and services as well), in addition to the money supply. Had the supply of rice also doubled along with the doubling of their money, the price of rice would have remain unchanged. With their new increased wealth they would have been able to buy double the amount of rice than they could before. That's what would have made them "wealthier" in the real sense.

You may extend the same concept to the entire country. If the CBN prints billions of Naira and doubles everyone's wealth, the cost of everything in the country would double.
This can also be understood from the simple law of demand and supply. If everybody has got more money out of nowhere, the demand of every goods and service would also increase almost commensurately (since everybody becomes rich, everybody now wants to own a Mercedes, fly in a business class, buy more fruits and chocolates). This would lead to an increase in the price of all the goods and services in the country (inflation).
Therefore to become rich, the country (its people) has to increase its production. That's the reason why countries are crazy about GDP (a measure of production).

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by sencekompis: 8:48am On Sep 04, 2022
INFLATION

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by pipnator00(m): 8:48am On Sep 04, 2022
Not a good idea.
Example. Remember the US printed money in the form of whatever they called it, quantitative easing or so and gave out stimulus checks to their citizens during the corona virus lockdown and the resultant effect is the inflation they are currently facing and the Russia/Conflict added to that.

Another example, some years back.. most Eurpean countries were in serious need of bailout funds. ECB gave out bailout to these nations resulting to inflation in Euro-zone.

When they realised thus and started taking measures to fight the inflation, the measures they took dragged them into deflation.

In my understanding, the best way to print money is:

1: For the govt in power to create favourable and enabling policies that encourages both FDI and local investments. Also, have strong and independent judicial system and well structured institutions.

2. Independence of the CBN and its ability to control interest rates and other monetary policies.

3. Goodwill. For the govt to communicate its policies effectively to the citizens, give HOPE and belief in the system and whatever they (govt) intend to achieve.

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by nedekid: 8:48am On Sep 04, 2022
Lolz, part of the problem apc led gov has brought on Nigeria. Few months ago, one or 2 governors complained cbn was printing money to for fgn to spend, and had been doing that for a while.
Watin you think say de cause inflation? Even crash of naira?
If you like vote apc again in what ever guise. Tinubu don kukuma talk say price of dollar no affect ordinary Nigerians cause them no de travel.

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by emerged01(m): 8:49am On Sep 04, 2022
A305:
In this life; there are some forces you can't control.

Think of: The force of gravity, The speed of light, The doppler effect of soundwave so also, The forces of demand and supply in economics.

Price control mechanism will only work in a socialism or communism economy NOT a capitalist economy where everything is geared towards profit making.

It can also work when a cartel of buyers tends to make it work — this is a scenario whereby the G7 are recently talking about putting price cap on Russia oil but sadly it will never work because Russia will decide not to sell to them and instead move their market to Asia and East Asia.


Why?

The forces of demand and supply can hardly be influenced.

Thank you for your response. I'm seriously learning from this topic.
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Nobody: 8:52am On Sep 04, 2022
PNomsule:
I am really just curious as to "why can't we just print more money and solve the poverty problem in the country?"

Terms like "inflation" and the "devaluing of the naira" are the usual buzz answers to that question. Also, people give the example that if we were to print more money and just give everyone N5,000,000 for example, then everyone would go out and buy things, thus making "THINGS" more scarce and in short supply and hence driving up the prices of things (simple demand/supply economics). But herein lies the catch for me... With TRUE unemployment rate somewhere around 33% in the country, if DEMAND for "THINGS" rose, then I would think that companies would WANT to hire more people and build more processing plants to keep up with demand and raise their profits. So, the influx of cash (printed money) would seem to solve the unemployment problem.

Again, we have agencies that regulates pricing in the economy: PPPRA, Price Control Board (Ministry of Commerce) etc, with those, can't the likely over pricing of commodities (THINGS) be controlled and gazetted to avoid the story of "too much money chasing fewer goods"?

In the final analysis, a robust and health competitive economy would have been created and underemployment issues largely solved.

Economists and Analysts lets discuss?
the question you should ask yourself is why someone who got free 5m for doing nothing would want to be working in a company where he will be getting paid 100k or why a farmer would go to the farm to plant yam from which he cannot even sell 300k when he received free 5m.
People would want to go to the bar to drink. Why would the bartender be there to serve you a drink for which at the end of the month he will be paid 50k when he got 5m?
When people refuse to go to the farm or do those things the ones doing it will hike the price because you will have no choice other than patronising them. That's where you get inflation.
The biggest people causing inflation in the country are drug dealers and yahoo miscreants

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by jeromestarks: 8:53am On Sep 04, 2022
It takes more than #10 to print ten naira note.
The country's international reserve will dry.
Las las, you go eat grass.
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Mckandre(m): 8:53am On Sep 04, 2022
Nigeria literally produces little to non of what consumers needs, no need of more manpower. Majority of consumer products are mostly imported.
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by lilfresh96(m): 8:53am On Sep 04, 2022
In summary what I understood is that

CBN printing more money for FG to spend is like they are taking money right away from our pockets sad angry angry, tongue tongue

My Question goes thus ? (1) So if I want to do long time saving what will the people do to prevent Government from stealing thier money ?

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Taigaban: 8:54am On Sep 04, 2022
PNomsule:
I am really just curious as to "why can't we just print more money and solve the poverty problem in the country?"

Terms like "inflation" and the "devaluing of the naira" are the usual buzz answers to that question. Also, people give the example that if we were to print more money and just give everyone N5,000,000 for example, then everyone would go out and buy things, thus making "THINGS" more scarce and in short supply and hence driving up the prices of things (simple demand/supply economics). But herein lies the catch for me... With TRUE unemployment rate somewhere around 33% in the country, if DEMAND for "THINGS" rose, then I would think that companies would WANT to hire more people and build more processing plants to keep up with demand and raise their profits. So, the influx of cash (printed money) would seem to solve the unemployment problem.

Again, we have agencies that regulates pricing in the economy: PPPRA, Price Control Board (Ministry of Commerce) etc, with those, can't the likely over pricing of commodities (THINGS) be controlled and gazetted to avoid the story of "too much money chasing fewer goods"?

In the final analysis, a robust and health competitive economy would have been created and underemployment issues largely solved.

Economists and Analysts lets discuss?
First, agricultural production is key to unemployment and underemployment. Agriculture is the only sector that can engage 90% of able body men and women. No sane economy will print money to solve economic problems. Rather you invest money in viable sectors to earn revenue. Printing money into an already bad economy is a very stupid idea.

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by PNomsule: 8:55am On Sep 04, 2022
kamalbob:


Easy to say if you don't know how money or printing in general works. As an expert in printing (academically) let me wrap it up in a short note. Money are printed on gramage paper which cost a lot, also the security prints on those papers before the actual print is done also cost huge amount of money.

So in a nutshell, you have to spend money to print money. If not because of this obstruction, those greedy politicians will print money like tomorrow no dey I'm telling you

No na bros, "The Central Bank of Nigeria spent the sum of N58.6 billion to print 2.52 billion Naira notes valued at N1.1 trillion in 2020."

Moreover, if I check your account statement Jan to date, I guarantee that more than 95% of the money that went through it, you no touch the paper sef, na electronic transfer so wetin u dey academic brag for here?

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by waice6571: 8:55am On Sep 04, 2022
PNomsule:
I am really just curious as to "why can't we just print more money and solve the poverty problem in the country?"

Terms like "inflation" and the "devaluing of the naira" are the usual buzz answers to that question. Also, people give the example that if we were to print more money and just give everyone N5,000,000 for example, then everyone would go out and buy things, thus making "THINGS" more scarce and in short supply and hence driving up the prices of things (simple demand/supply economics). But herein lies the catch for me... With TRUE unemployment rate somewhere around 33% in the country, if DEMAND for "THINGS" rose, then I would think that companies would WANT to hire more people and build more processing plants to keep up with demand and raise their profits. So, the influx of cash (printed money) would seem to solve the unemployment problem.

Again, we have agencies that regulates pricing in the economy: PPPRA, Price Control Board (Ministry of Commerce) etc, with those, can't the likely over pricing of commodities (THINGS) be controlled and gazetted to avoid the story of "too much money chasing fewer goods"?

In the final analysis, a robust and health competitive economy would have been created and underemployment issues largely solved.

Economists and Analysts lets discuss?

This is against everything common sense stands for! Money is only useful when you create value for it.
Zimbabwe experimented this option some years back and their currency became a joke without economic value.
They have single note of 1million Zimbabwean dollar that is not enough to buy a wheelbarrow.

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by maste: 8:56am On Sep 04, 2022
Printed money is just paper. The paper must be backed by tangible assets like gold, oil, brains etc. If not the value of the paper you print reduces without tangible backing. These crooks in Government have been printing paper money without creating value and that is why we are where we are today. In enlightened economies the President cannot order printing of more paper unless it is to replace the mutilated ones already in circulation. That is why a dollar that used to exchange for 75 kobo back in those days now exchanges for 700 naira. That's what happens when monkeys take over a car and chase the owner. Who will drive the car?

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by womenareapezz: 8:56am On Sep 04, 2022
PNomsule:
I am really just curious as to "why can't we just print more money and solve the poverty problem in the country?"

Terms like "inflation" and the "devaluing of the naira" are the usual buzz answers to that question. Also, people give the example that if we were to print more money and just give everyone N5,000,000 for example, then everyone would go out and buy things, thus making "THINGS" more scarce and in short supply and hence driving up the prices of things (simple demand/supply economics). But herein lies the catch for me... With TRUE unemployment rate somewhere around 33% in the country, if DEMAND for "THINGS" rose, then I would think that companies would WANT to hire more people and build more processing plants to keep up with demand and raise their profits. So, the influx of cash (printed money) would seem to solve the unemployment problem.

Again, we have agencies that regulates pricing in the economy: PPPRA, Price Control Board (Ministry of Commerce) etc, with those, can't the likely over pricing of commodities (THINGS) be controlled and gazetted to avoid the story of "too much money chasing fewer goods"?

In the final analysis, a robust and health competitive economy would have been created and underemployment issues largely solved.

Economists and Analysts lets discuss?
print more money so that your currency will be like that of Zimbabwe own, whereby you will be buying bread at 1 million naira undecided

Dey use sense sometimes dey think !
At least history for suppose don give you small sense na

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by PNomsule: 8:57am On Sep 04, 2022
Taigaban:
First, agricultural production is key to unemployment and underemployment. Agriculture is the only sector that can engage 90% of able body men and women. No sane economy will print money to solve economic problems. Rather you invest money in viable sectors to earn revenue.

So my question remains valid, can we print more money and engage same in "viable agricultural crop & meat production" as to employ more able bodied men & women as to fight unemployment and by extension, poverty?

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by reccy(m): 8:58am On Sep 04, 2022
Havertz10.... Please come and help us here. I'm lost!
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Halo22: 8:58am On Sep 04, 2022
Nigerians are too theoretical than practical, reason we have numerous professors especially in Economics, yet they offer nothing towards economic development. What the OP asked was simple; the correlation between printing of more money and inflation rate cum price regulation and control. Now practically put, printing/minting more money and distributing it is good, even though it brings about inflation but the question is; who collects the money after printing? What is the aim of printing the money, is it for frivolities or investment to raise more profits? If Nigeria would print some cash and hand them over to good investors who in turn makes more profit for the country, I think it will boost our economic index. On the issue of price regulation and control, we can do it as a country practicing mixed economic system, but the major problem would be corruption and inefficiency of some of our governmental agencies who take up the checkmating responsibility. But then, we have to look into our consumption lifestyle as a country. You can easily checkmate prices when you are locally manufacturing commodities or when you have the necessary raw materials for production within ur reach.

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Nobody: 8:59am On Sep 04, 2022
Sucre6:


You see, it's a vicious cycle, take for example, when more people are employed, they will be paid right, what is the value of working when u know that the money you will be paid won't be enough to buy you food to eat not to talk of clothing and luxury, it gets to a point when the money becomes so valueless that there will be no need to work, a case study is Zimbabwe.

When there is stagflation, prices can't be controlled because an individual could monopolies the market take for example, when dangote refinery is ready, he would be a sole producer of oil in Nigeria, when when stagflation sets in, you can't control or regulate how he sales his product because the whole country is dependent on him for survival, it's will be wild like going back to stone ages.
Now this is a practical example

Take for instance if our normal exchange rate is maybe #1,000 to 1$ dollar and a crude of oil is sold at #100,000 these foreign countries would have to exchange $10 dollars just to acquire one barrel of oil, but when stagflation sets in, exchange rate would be crazy, say N100,000 for $1 dollar and a barrel of oil is sold at 100,000 to foreign export for example, when stagflation sets in and the naira looses it value, you could buy 10 barrels of oil for $1 dollar

These illustration above means, the value of money that the foreign countries pays for 1 barrel of oil when the economy was good, same amount of money would buy 10 barrels of oil when the economy becomes bad thereby plunging the economy into deeper hyper inflation, most countries wont even buy from Nigeria then, to avoid importing inflation to their country, yes a country could be plunge into inflation by importation from inflation Country.


The solution to solving these, The CBN introduces monetary and fiscal policy

Which include Open Market operation, sales of bonds and securities and so on, they do this to rake in excess money in circulation, and when this is continued the money in the economy would be just fine to run the economy. The extreme measures is devaluation of the face value of the currency,

So that's it, hope it's clearer now?

I agreed with your point but the crude oil price you used for the analysis is very wrong. You should have used other exported good whose valued is tied to Naira.

Crude oil is sold at international price benchmark. At anytime, the price of Bonnylight sold in dollar cannot depreciate because of hyperinflation in Nigeria. $1 dollar of crude will still be $1 even if =N=10,000 is equal to $1.

Church activities may not allow some us go deep in the analysis for now. I am against the printing of more naira for now, especially when election is coming. During 1983 election as we were told, at Ibadan, during Akinloye's birthday, Naira was thrown about like paper.

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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by SeaTrade(m): 8:59am On Sep 04, 2022
PNomsule:


I fancy the points you noted however, from the post I made, how do you see the aspect of Price Control Mechanism as a critical vehicle to combat and stiffle inflation before it rears its ugly head, say on bread for example?
You cannot stiffle price because some components of production are imported by the corporations you want to stiffle their prices and you've got no control over what's going on out of your borders.
Also,as with the issue of corps hiring more people out of too much demand to solve unemployment,
It can't work because to start establishing new plants to satisfy that surging demand takes time,in which before then(materialisation of plants) ,the currency must have depreciated so bad that to import equipments to put in those plants will become impossible.
And no corporation will want to make longterm investments like establishing plants in that kind of economy where depreciation will he happening everyday,
What you will see mostly in such periods is capital flight grin

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