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Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by 18wheeler: 10:54am On Sep 04, 2022 |
One of the basic characteristics of money is SCARCITY. If it loses that, it loses value. That is why there are institutions like the CBN in Nigeria, the Federal Reserve in the US & their equivalents in other economies to control the flow of money. You cannot just create money without it being used to pay for an economic activity. By the time each Nigerian is given 5,000,000 I bet you in less than a month 60% would go broke because they would have spent on luxury goods imported. The economic value of money goes to the country that creates the goods/service and not the one that consumes. Modified: the government should rather print the money or better still borrow it and spend on capital goods that will be used in production activities. This production will create employment and when ripple are employed they will earn. When they earn they will spend on goods. The providers of such goods will then earn from peoples spending and put it in another production cycle. All these exchanges will involve money. That’s when the regulator of money flow will print paper money if there’s need. Money flow should go with the production level of an economy else it’s doom won’t be too far from the day money is printed just for it to be in the hands of citizens. |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by boyfrank: 10:58am On Sep 04, 2022 |
naijapips04:His suggestion is that Nigeria should be productive and generate revenue not printing valueless naira notes. 1 Like |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by alphaNomega: 10:59am On Sep 04, 2022 |
Sucre6: This is exactly the same buzz answer OP was worried about. |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Timekeeper452: 11:01am On Sep 04, 2022 |
Corea4king:borrowing doesn’t solve anything, the money you hear being borrowed is just the government giving itself money in the name of other countries. You and I pay back these loans, simply put because nigeria doesn’t produce enough to to grow its economy and fund projects, they borrow money meant for us from us, in hopes that we will pay it. So if you were meant to be receiving 50,000 naira as monthly payment for your production, the government pays you 50,000, it taxes you for that payment and tax you from other sources, so the same money they give you, you give back to them a little which they use to device the Loans they borrowed. That’s why you see the country using debts to service its budgets, we are the ones paying these debts. You and I, we aren’t paid what we are supposed to be paid, prices of things keep on increasing because the money they generate from us to service this debt isn’t even enough, or rather put are being stolen by same government. 1 Like |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by alphaNomega: 11:02am On Sep 04, 2022 |
Sucre6:You are still giving another textbook analysis. Let's say the price regulatory agencies maintain the cost of goods and services despite giving every Nigerian N5m naira. That's one of the points OP pointed out |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by alphaNomega: 11:03am On Sep 04, 2022 |
PNomsule:Bro, I feel your pain and it is frustrating. 1 Like |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Alawode01(m): 11:06am On Sep 04, 2022 |
So why can’t the Nigerian government just print money to solve her problems? The general response to this question is “inflation.” Historically, when countries have simply printed money it leads to periods of rising prices and often, this means everyday goods become unaffordable inary citizens as the wages they earn quickly become worthless. Businesses will respond to demand by lifting prices and this is why we do not have money printers in our closets. This scenario can appear catastrophic without context. But context is everything. The case of the government printing money is never simple or clean cut. In cases of serious recession, demand falls so much that it is possible to increase the money supply without creating inflationary pressure. Let’s consider the quantity theory of money MV=PT. So where V, the Velocity of circulation falls in a recession, we may need to increase money supply just to avoid deflation. Usually, printing money causes inflation. But, in periods of falling velocity of circulation (the number of times money changes hands), printing money doesn’t necessarily cause inflation. The pandemic has caused a fall in the velocity of circulation. ” 1 Like |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by studentofTruth: 11:07am On Sep 04, 2022 |
PNomsule: I can see that you bought into the "Capital is the key to economic growth" scam. It's a pure scam from the west to keep Africa poor. Productivity is the only route to sustainable economic growth, not the sham growth from influx of capital. China grew from being productive, not flooding everywhere with cash. Even in the Western model that uses monetary rates to drive growth during recessions, they tighten their belts during periods of inflation by raising rates to reduce the money in circulation, which would in turn bring down inflation. Flooding the market with money leads to excessive inflation and a bubble, which would eventually burst and you end up with a recession or even a depression. The current rising inflation globally is a result of the excess cash floated to tackle COVID-19. The excess cash caused a bubble, so much so that people started paying hundreds of thousands and even millions of dollars for jpegs (NFTs) and shitcoins were doing 100x and more. Well, the bubble has bursted as the Fed started applying breaks (raising interest rates). Despite the threat of recession, the Fed isn't removing their leg from the break anything soon (maybe 2023/2024) because it's better to tackle inflation than end up with stagflation. You talk about price control mechanism. Experience has shown that you can't forcefully control the market, it always backfires. The best is for the market to control itself through competition. Printing money, especially during periods of inflation is calling for a bubble. When the bubble bursts, it's always catastrophic. |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Sucre6: 11:07am On Sep 04, 2022 |
alphaNomega: How can regulatory agency maintain price of goods and services when there is massive monopoly? Practically not possible, I pointed it out that when there is stagflation, regulatory agencies can't do nothing, as it stands now regulatory agencies can't even regulate the market when there is perfect competitive market, how can they regulate it when it is monopolized, ??not possible |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by alphaNomega: 11:08am On Sep 04, 2022 |
Timekeeper452: Textbook people...think outside the box. Now in this your example, what happens when the price of beans does not change no matter how much money is pumped in? |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Natajo2021: 11:08am On Sep 04, 2022 |
[quote author=PNomsule post=116334119]I am really just curious as to "why can't we just print more money and solve the poverty problem in the country?" Terms like "inflation" and the "devaluing of the naira" are the usual buzz answers to that question. Also, people give the example that if we were to print more money and just give everyone N5,000,000 for example, then everyone would go out and buy things, thus making "THINGS" more scarce and in short supply and hence driving up the prices of things (simple demand/supply economics). But herein lies the catch for me... With TRUE unemployment rate somewhere around 33% in the country, if DEMAND for "THINGS" rose, then I would think that companies would WANT to hire more people and build more processing plants to keep up with demand and raise their profits. So, the influx of cash (printed money) would seem to solve the unemployment problem. Again, we have agencies that regulates pricing in the economy: PPPRA, Price Control Board (Ministry of Commerce) etc, with those, can't the likely over pricing of commodities (THINGS) be controlled and gazetted to avoid the story of "too much money chasing fewer goods"? In the final analysis, a robust and health competitive economy would have been created and underemployment issues largely solved. Economists and Analysts lets discuss?[/quote @op, Who told you that the cbn has not been minting money for Buhari and the caliphate? The official money printed by @Emefiele in Buhari 7 years plus of destructive fiscal and economic policies has exceeded N500 Trillion Naira, the unofficial minted monet that is being distributed to the Northern Oligarchs exceed N200 Trillion Naira. However, the money is being channelled secretly to Niger Republic, Chad, Mali, CAR, Guinea-Bissau and Guinea-Conakry. This is in preparation for the final Jihad prophesied by Late Othman Dan fodiyo, accepted by Late Sardauna of Sokoto and being Implemented by Buhari the destroyer of Nigeria. So, there is no way the Money can get to the indigenous people of Nigeria. |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by kologba: 11:13am On Sep 04, 2022 |
Knowledge of sound economics it's ur problem |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Sucre6: 11:14am On Sep 04, 2022 |
alphaNomega: Am a practical economist bro Same reason why fertilizer prices don't change or make prices of food items lower when government subsidies it because there are other factors to be considered, what good does it make pumping money to produce and subsidies beans production when the cost of transporting it to the market is too high, which will make the farmer factor in cost of input to determine how much he put as asking price. This is just one out of many reasons. 1 Like |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Doorlarss(m): 11:17am On Sep 04, 2022 |
True talk bro just print more money to solve naija inflation & stagflation |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Nobody: 11:20am On Sep 04, 2022 |
Nonsense analysis iam reading here.. it's pathetic.. the fact is the cost of printing the money itself is greater than the value.do you even know what it takes to mint? 1 Like |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by vickydevoka(m): 11:23am On Sep 04, 2022 |
PNomsule:Ask yourself when last did you hear UK printed money |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by NEUDUDE: 11:24am On Sep 04, 2022 |
Tinubunomics LOL ![]() |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by studentofTruth: 11:24am On Sep 04, 2022 |
alphaNomega: You make me laugh. Who produces those goods? Who offers the services? The person with free #5m? control price? never sustainable in any market. If I produce at #10, you can't force me to sell at #10; I must add my markup. |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by studentofTruth: 11:30am On Sep 04, 2022 |
alphaNomega: The more you call people giving you genuine reasons textbook people, the more you make me laugh. You still see money as the paper used for exchange. The real money is the goods and services, not the printed paper. Once you understand this, you will stop your argument. |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by tunde4top(m): 11:34am On Sep 04, 2022 |
I am not a certified economic analyst but let me help to address your points. 1. Your points did not acknowledge the fact that the world is a global village... A country's currency is as good as its competitive power with other international currencies because no country is self sufficient... 2. Let's assume that the CBN prints more money as you dreamed of and dash Nigerians 5 million Naira each. Let's also assume that the Price regulating body fought hard to arrest price increment of goods as you imagined. Below lies the problem: a. Our dollar reserve will be more pressured and our Dollar Spending bill will drastically increase : Because good percentage of this new money in circulation will want to exchange to dollar to buy goods and services... Some Nigerians will want to go into import business... Some will want to travel out (japa). Some will want to buy luxury things from abroad... Where would the CBN get all this new dollar demand from when they can't print dollars? Remember that the lower the external reserve, the more new investors are frightened to bring new dollar into Nigeria for investment because their chances of getting back their $ would be very low when they decide to quit from the country... Foreign Investors in the country already would also start planning their exits before the reserve finally gets too low for them to exit. So the only way the CBN can prevent the above economic situation/trouble from happening is to allow more Naira to exchange for a dollar which is called devaluation of Naira... Devaluation of Naira then leads to an Inflation because we import most of the things we use in this country... When a trader spends more Naira for $ for import of goods...Then the only way to make profit is to increase the local pricing and pass the increment value to the consumers. b. Inflation is bad because it takes some value away from a currency since a currency is as good as its purchasing power/value (and not number)... Rich men like Dangote will have their international rating number go higher because their general worth in $ will now reduce as a result of the inflation... Some of these Rich men will now start loosing interest in this country and start transfering their investments to other countries with more stabilized economy that can protect their worth.. Many more negative domino events would also take off... 1 Like |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Larryton(m): 11:34am On Sep 04, 2022 |
RZArecta: If you have answer to the question, shed more light on it sir. |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by deebrownneymar: 11:35am On Sep 04, 2022 |
PNomsule: Sleepy Joe Biden did this recently and the inflation worsened in America 1 Like |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by studentofTruth: 11:39am On Sep 04, 2022 |
naijapips04:Productivity! Moving from consumption to production! That's the only route to sustainable economic growth! |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by LienwaltAbel(m): 11:40am On Sep 04, 2022 |
Farid24224:What rubbish! |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Mckandre(m): 11:44am On Sep 04, 2022 |
descarado:even security issues and bandit attacks are not from individual menace, right? |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Farid24224(m): 11:45am On Sep 04, 2022 |
LienwaltAbel: That's rubbish to you because you lack the capacity to think.. |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by A305: 11:57am On Sep 04, 2022 |
jumper524:This is myopic of you, the dollars can't loose value overnight because it's the petro dollar of the world. It's backed by oil trade. 1 Like |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Nobody: 12:00pm On Sep 04, 2022 |
PNomsule:socialism is a theory/proposition presently on paper as no state in its real sense is practicing it. And as such price control won't work. The best practical way to control the price of goods and services is to ensure that lesser money is in circulation. So ur proposition won't stand the test of time. You don't espect the price of biscuit produced in Aba to sell at same price in Lagos, you must factor in the cost of logistics. This makes it nearly impossible to sell goods at same prices everywhr. So how does price control work here? If you print more money, you make the money available to people more than the goods available, this in turn creates inflation as prices of goods will go up since the buyer has more money to let go for a good. Printing more money only makes sense when the volume of money in circulation is small. That's why the primary responsibility of CBN is to ensure the volume of money out there is not too small or too large for the economy. |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by gentlegenius(m): 12:03pm On Sep 04, 2022 |
PNomsule:Here is a good answer to your question... Price control doesn't work in all situations. For example, If government print money and share 5million to each person, then start controlling the prices of goods in the market, they'll fail woefully because they can't control people doing menial jobs. I mean, nobody will have 5 million in his account and will agree to offload cement for you except you'll pay him like 10k per bag. So if the government regulates the price of cement at 7k per bag, how about the 10k per bag that you pay for loading/offloading? Will you not add that to the price? There are certain things the government can't force people to do. If you can't pay what they charge you, they are free to walk away. If every one in this country are rich, nobody will want to work, except you'll pay them ridiculously high salary. With 5 million in your account, you won't afford to buy a piece of land anywhere. Even if you already have a land, you can't build a house because the brick layers you hire will demand ridiculous pay or walk away; the carpenters will demand so much money from you or walk away because he's already rich. Since you cant do everything yourself, you'll stop the project or pay them high amounts and contribute to inflation. This is why printing more money to make everyone rich will bring serious inflation that CANNOT BE CONTROLLED. 1 Like |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by Gabbriell: 12:05pm On Sep 04, 2022 |
One of the reasons is because it cost more to print the money at certain volume (in the case of Nigeria). This might not make sense but it's true for Nigeria. In other to counter people printing fake currencies, most countries uses very unique and expensive tools in printing their currencies, thus making it impossible for criminals to copy. One of the solution to money problem in Nigeria is to "start circulating money". This mean using them in day to day activities in large volume. There are alot of corrupt practices in Nigeria that has seen many of our leaders stockpiling our money. Money that should have been in circulation through trade and what not. The money are being kept in one place without using it. Nigeria has alot of printed currency...but majority of it are being stockpiled by greedy politician. If we can solve this problem, we will not need to be printing more money. Even if we keep printing more now... corrupt politicians will still hijack it and prevent it from circulating. Nigerians whole problem can be summed up in one word "CORRUPTION". |
Re: Why Can't The CBN Just Print More Money? by djon78(m): 12:13pm On Sep 04, 2022 |
PNomsule: All the financial transactions in the world revolves around the US dollars. Before the second world war gold was the the Central underlying hedge for every monetary value but after the war the US took control of everything global about money That's why countries foreign reserves are in the dollars Countries cannot print money not covered by their foreign reserve. Inflation, drop in currency values will batter the country in questions CBN already printed 20trillion and flooded the country. That's why inflation and rapid devaluation of Naira has occurred What Nigeria needed was firstly improvement of critical infrastructures especially power, roads etc Power alone will help Nigeria a lot to industrialize Industrlization will help Nigeria move from import dependent country to at least produce what we use before exporting. Ordinary crude oil we don't produce here. And many other critical issues Changing Nigeriyas economic outlook is not a rocket science but we have had non truthful leaders that don't want change They want status quo to remain the same, because change will render many of them useless. That's why Nigeria's economic policy is still dated back to the 1980s. Effective Leadership must be put in place because a point will come Nigeria will be irredeemable. Other nations are rapidly progressing and advancing. While Nigeria is still stuck in retrogression The only positives are only the hardworking attitude of ordinary citizens from music to nollywood to few serious organizations, including the youths 1 Like |
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