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Michelle70:
now let me tell u something little boy.

Ijaws never had problem with igbos, infact Ijaws could be considered igbo only ally even as far back as 2015.

The problem started when u start annexing Rivers state to igbos state, even some Ikwerre had issues with igbos cos of this. Wike also came out to throw some jab yet u didnt learn

Ijaws were vocal and has actually stopped this ur annexing, now u have tried to claim opobo.

even some prominent people from SS has distanced themselves from this biafran.
Ur problem is that u dont feel like respecting people.

paramakina202 cc

That's a big lie and for the record, Ikwerre is just an Igbo sub group, no Igbo had ever claimed Ogoni and the likes, you can't come to Obigbo, Etche, etc. And say they are not Igbo, Wike can't say that Ikweere is not Igbo when Amechi the most successful Ikwerre ever says otherwise

EndsarsReloaded:
I hope Nigeria survives with the renaissance Obi is bringing forth. Otherwise, if it collapses it's going to be bloody. The Ijaws like violence but it will only lead to their extinction if they ever challenge Igbos. They will be completely outnumbered and routed. While Igbos can raise an army of 5 million at short notice and they would be United in one accord, Ijaws doesn't have any centralized union and worse still they have relatively small population.

Kalahari, nembe, Bonny, and the other clans in bayelsa will be busy fighting over who controls which section similar to what Tompolo and Asari are doing today.

The Ijaws also lack the kind of intelligentia and technology at the disposal of Igbos. With just Yenegoa as the only standard city in their domain, straffing it by air is enough to put the rest of their country in disarray.

Nobody wants to join a losing side, the moment Opobo and Bonny people realize that Ijaw nation has been reduced to pockets of clans ruled by warlords, they would either decide to join Igbos to enjoy stability and progress or opt to be independent island states. Either way, Ijaw nation will be forever screwed.

It will be a similar situation to the South Sudan situation where they've been fighting themselves since gaining independence.

Unfortunately, Ijaws lack the vital ingredients to successfully run a country. They lack a central authority, no middle class, no unifying language, little or no diaspora that can mount pressure on the government, and lastly a disjointed territory that can breed warlords.

When I see some ignorant Ijaws asking for independence, I just shake my head. Without a big ethnic group to act as a stabilizing force, ijaws will descend to anarchy.

Meanwhile, let's pray that Nigeria succeeds and progresses else there will be doom.

This Is The Satanic Mindset Most Of You Have. You Hypocritically Think You Can Analyze Another Man's tribe More Than Yours. Don't Worry, Just Pray Nigeria Gets It Right Under Obi, Otherwise The Evil You Wish Others Will Consume You Eternally And That's For Sure. Your Biafra Is Only For Yourselves, No South South Tribe, Even Delta Igbo's Will Never Be Crazy To Be Part of Biafra. Your Type Will Not Even Have The Opportunity To Receive Sense At All.

AlexBells:
That's a big lie and for the record, Ikwerre is just an Igbo sub group, no Igbo had ever claimed Ogoni and the likes, you can't come to Obigbo, Etche, etc. And say they are not Igbo, Wike can't say that Ikweere is not Igbo when Amechi the most successful Ikwerre ever says otherwise

ur problem is that u feel lost.
dragging who is igbo and who is not.
Drawing map and landmarks.

Are u guys goint extinct?

Kagd10:
You're the liar here. Where's the evidence?

Na them dey rush to say they're Yoruba sef. They and their Kwara brothers. Yoruba don't deny them either, as long as their root is Yoruba.

Lol. I taught there and lived there for months.

Michelle70:
ur problem is that u feel lost.
dragging who is igbo and who is not.
Drawing map and landmarks.

Are u guys goint extinct?

You don't understand Nationhood and the pride of sovereignty, go ask Russia if they are lost or have less land when they fighting for Ethnic Russians in Ukraine lol

Why is China Fighting to reunite with Taiwan also are they lost ?

AlexBells:
You don't understand Nationhood and the pride of sovereignty, go ask Russia if they are lost or have less land when they fighting for Ethnic Russians in Ukraine lol

Why is China Fighting to reunite with Taiwan also are they lost ?

calm down bro.
Nobody is dragging ur landlocked states with u.
Ndi dot

2elliot:
Lol. I taught there and lived there for months.

Post the news where Yoruba was claiming them? Na them dey claim Yoruba pass sef.

Michelle70:
calm down bro.
Nobody is dragging ur landlocked states with u.
Ndi dot

Nobody is even being our territorial or inland water into the questions, first we are discussing our brothers and sisters, God who put us in the Geography we are in knows that we have everything we need to survive however we are not living any of our people behind if for any reason Nigeria divides but if Nigeria remains one, we shall all be happy here with our people by the grace of God

AlexBells:
Forget what you are saying, you people are very big problem of the Igbo nation, if Zik acted like you want me to act you would say he's a unionist, if he acted like protecting Igbo interest all time, you would say another, we have issues with Ijaw, if they don't want amicably settling fvck them, if you want me to pretend until according to you the time is right, fvck you too

It is better to draw the line, their people are working against our interest becuase of meager pipeline contract, they working against Obi in the majority what are you even saying

My friend focus on Peter Obi winning next year election that is what we all should focus on.
Antagonizing our neighbours at this time is wrong.
Watch this Nnaa Menh tv a young man from Imo state that visited natives of Opobo to get first hand information about their tribal identity and also to promote friendship and brotherhood with those Igbo towns outside southeast zone.
There time for everything be smart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_BCF4IckX8

Michelle70:
now let me tell u something little boy.

Ijaws never had problem with igbos, infact Ijaws could be considered igbo only ally even as far back as 2015.

The problem started when u start annexing Rivers state to igbos state, even some Ikwerre had issues with igbos cos of this. Wike also came out to throw some jab yet u didnt learn

Ijaws were vocal and has actually stopped this ur annexing, now u have tried to claim opobo.

even some prominent people from SS has distanced themselves from this biafran.
Ur problem is that u dont feel like respecting people.

paramakina202 cc

Even in SE all the state government and most people do not believe in the Biafra agitation of today.

GeneralPula:
People go dey on dia own in peace, Flatinoz go dey find dia trouble..

This is exactly how them Ojukwu started..

Imagine Ojukwu trying to Annex Benin Warri Ore and Lagos to Biafra

What effrontery

Ojukwu only went to Oxford
but gained no Wisdom there
Not even Common Sense

Alex Bells take a good look at the
Atlantic Ocean and remember that your
People are renowned for their fear of Water not to talk of Fighting the Ijaws that were born Swimming on the Atlantic ocean


You already know how it would end
Even if only Ijaw Women and Children turn up to fight you would still loose very Calamitously
Nigeria doesn't need another 60 years of
Wailing from your side
Be contented with what God Almighty has given you and don't look for Trouble

christistruth01:
Imagine Ojukwu trying to Annex Benin Warri Ore and Lagos to Biafra

What effrontery

Ojukwu only went to Oxford
but gained no Wisdom there
Not even Common Sense

Alex Bells take a good look at the
Atlantic Ocean and remember that your
People are renowned for their fear of Water not to talk of Fighting the Ijaws that were born Swimming on the Atlantic ocean


You already know how it would end
Even if only Ijaw Women and Children decide to fight you would still loose very Calamitously
Nigeria doesn't need another 60 years of
Wailing from your side
Be contented with what God Almighty has given you

Ojukwu never tried to annex those places, be only tried to match to Lagos wgich was a flawed move by him

AlexBells:
Ojukwu never tried to annex those places, be only tried to match to Lagos wgich was a flawed move by him

Read Ojukwu's letter to Banjo

Ojukwu wanted Political and Military Control of all Yorubaland

I agree it was a bad move

paramakina202:
My friend focus on Peter Obi winning next year election that is what we all should focus on.
Antagonizing our neighbours at this time is wrong.
Watch this Nnaa Menh tv a young man from Imo state that visited natives of Opobo to get first hand information about their tribal identity and also to promote friendship and brotherhood with those Igbo towns outside southeast zone.
There time for everything be smart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_BCF4IckX8

I honestly don't want to argue with you in this regards, I honestly don't want to, top ranking Ijaws are attacking Obi, yes I understand that there are Ijaws and even Yorubas supporting Obi but we understand that in the current dispensation, Yorubas in their majority are not going to support him, imagine the table was turned and there is justification to vote Tinubu over Obi but I don't see the justification, we had engaged in different fight between us and urchins, there are over 300 tribes in Nigeria if you have issues with one or two you tell them,

They can't make you lose or win especially when you are being sincere, people can see through every pretence, we supported Jonathan but Ijaws are not reciprocating, we almost went to political irrelevance, today we are experiencing mini terrorism in Igboland becuase we supported Jonathan and when Buhari won it felt like heaven was falling and we resorted to badly adviced self defence that has turned to terror, even if other Easterners attack us, it is not supposed to be Ijaws and they are not changing, working with them or anticipating any thing with us would end badly, they fought us during the war and today they are fighting even our interest

christistruth01:
Read Ojukwu's letter to Banjo

Ojukwu wanted Political and Military Control of all Yorubaland

I agree it was a bad move

As much as I know that Ojukwu was not an astute military commander, lets be sincere with people who are no longer here, in Aburi Ojukwu did point out that Gowon was occupying Lagos by force of conquest so, unless you are not being genuine, Ojukwu only move to Lagos was to get Gowon and in his thinking liberate the West from such force of conquest but Ojukwu wasn't an efficient military strategist,

What do you expect from a lawyer turned soldier, he ought to know that elongating the campaigns through a distant geography makes his force susceptible to counter attack

AlexBells:
I honestly don't want to argue with you in this regards, I honestly don't want to, top ranking Ijaws are attacking Obi, yes I understand that there are Ijaws and even Yorubas supporting Obi but we understand that in the current dispensation, Yorubas in their majority are not going to support him, imagine the table was turned and there is justification to vote Tinubu over Obi but I don't see the justification, we had engaged in different fight between us and urchins, there are over 300 tribes in Nigeria if you have issues with one or two you tell them,

They can't make you lose or win especially when you are being sincere, people can see through every pretence, we supported Jonathan but Ijaws are not reciprocating, we almost went to political irrelevance, today we are experiencing mini terrorism in Igboland becuase we supported Jonathan and when Buhari won it felt like heaven was falling and we resorted to badly adviced self defence that has turned to terror, even if other Easterners attack us, it is not supposed to be Ijaws and they are not changing, working with them or anticipating any thing with us would end badly, they fought us during the war and today they are fighting even our interest

Let us give the Ijaws that benefit of doubt and our other Niger delta neighbours too.

paramakina202:
Let us give the Ijaws that benefit of doubt and our other Niger delta neighbours too.

If you have watched for months I have not made post attacking Ijaws, I'd rather make slight comic post about the sour relationship between Tinubu and the North, I don't even attack Tinubu directly becuase I understand everyone has their own justification for acting the way they do, I have many Yoruba friends, I tell them I understand if you support Tinubu, many of them have told me they know Tinubu is not the best but they have to stand by their own, I say okay, I understand.

If I'm not dumb enough to attack Tinubu when there are every part of him to attack from why do I attack Ijaws because here there's an impending danger. Many Yorubas attack other Igbos but they hardly attack me, even several other people get banned here but I don't thats because I respect others, for months you don't see any of us attacking the Ijaws but they go about attacking us here on nairaland.

I don't believe in Biafra, I'm a unionist, I'm a Zikist who idolise Major Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu Igbos here knows me, and they just let me be who I want however I don't like that of all the people attacking Nnamdi Kanu the biggest ones are from Niger Delta, you don't see Sunday Igboho insulting Nnamdi Kanu, you don't even see Sheikh Gumi insulting Kanu becuase they understand that somehow there could be some elements of reasons but you see Asari doing everything including setting up a counter militia threatening that he's expert in killing,

These sort of things makes me observe these set of people differently and I don't know why they do so, for Yorubas I understand our issues with them is more about rivalry and sometimes it is deeper but for Ijaws I can't point out the exact thing, but if you say let's leave the issue for now it is okay but they won't stop cause they will be making inciting comments and posts against us.

AlexBells:
As much as I know that Ojukwu was not an astute military commander, lets be sincere with people who are no longer here, in Aburi Ojukwu did point out that Gowon was occupying Lagos by force of conquest so, unless you are not being genuine, Ojukwu only move to Lagos was to get Gowon and in his thinking liberate the West from such force of conquest but Ojukwu wasn't an efficient military strategist,

What do you expect from a lawyer turned soldier, he ought to know that elongating the campaigns through a distant geography makes his force susceptible to counter attack

Nope

Ojukwu wanted to Conquer all Southern Nigeria
Col David Ejoor and Awolowo had already warned us after they had tried to Persuade Ojukwu to give up War but failed

Ojukwu is very insincere Ironsi also occupied Lagos and the West by force of Arms and Ojukwu had no problem with that

He should have told Ironsi to give Power back to the Civilians because Ironsi's takeover was completely unconstitutional

To be honest with you Ojukwu wanted to do an Afonja when he invaded Ore but it backfired badly

christistruth01:
Nope

Ojukwu wanted to Conquer all Southern Nigeria
Col David Ejoor and Awolowo had already warned us after they had tried to Persuade Ojukwu to give up War but failed

Ojukwu is very insincere Ironsi also occupied Lagos and the West by force of Arms and Ojukwu had no problem with that

He should have told Ironsi to give Power back to the Civilians because Ironsi's takeover was completely unconstitutional

To be honest with you Ojukwu wanted to do an Afonja when he invaded Ore but it backfired badly

Ironsi did not occupy Lagos by the force of arm per say, technically he wasn't part of the coup, after the first coup, the supreme military council was there, if anything in Aburi was to be held true then Ironsi was only the head of the supreme Military council which took decisions yet in Aburi which was the last time Ojukwu met with the rest of the Nigeria, Ironsi and Fajuyi's way about was still unkown, so Gowon apointed an acting Military governor for western region while making himself the supreme commander.

Now most of us are conversant with the w want that followed, the creation of states and more, since Gowon appointed an acting head of state for the West it meant that Ojukwu was fighting with Lagos since Gowon is based in Lagos as Biafra fought with Nigeria it was only common sense for Biafra to match towards Lagos, however Biafra could have played defence and not attack at first and repelled until the Nigerian side is demoralised, even at that there was no need matching out of Biafran territory for at least 6 months into the war

It wasn't an attack targeted on the west it Midwest but since the head of state was in Lagos, it was common sense to match towards it

AlexBells:
That's what you think that the Igbos and North are enemies, without the Niger they have no other sea access and Niger descended into the delta from Igboland so North has no other sea alternative they must bow to us becuase we can offer them more than you can offer them, war is about interest, haven't you seen that 2023 election is bringing back Igbo/Northern Alliance,

So the North up to Niger is more likely to work with us, or they would not get imports and exports to the sea because they have no other alternative, we shall protect North interest and they shall join us to obliterate you

As for the creeks, you are not more creek friendly than Igbos, we shall just station in Opobo and Bonny and deal with you

God forbid we join hands with nyamuri.

2elliot:
Lol. I taught there and lived there for months.

Hello bro. Ijumu people are yorubas. As a matter of fact, we are under the sovereignty of the Ooni of Ife. The highest Kabiyesi of the whole yoruba land as Olujumu of Ijumu land still bows to him.

There are just some slight differences in our culture due to dilution of the culture, as expected. That doesn't change our ancestry and heritage from being purely yoruba.

Take this from an indigene. Peace.

Nova1988:
God forbid we join hands with nyamuri.

Who are you, Ahmedu Belo? Lol, North and East are traditional allies, when the North wanted to secede Zik told them, they risk being landlocked if they do unless they would have to rely on the East for the use of the Niger, the North changed their mind afterwards, forget about present day situations, who have looked out for the North like the East have done.

When the North rejected independence becuase they were not ready, the Northern ministers where booed in Lagos, Zik assured them that the North shall be fine, well let's say it gets to that when we can't work together after Nigeria's division then the destiny of Northern Nigeria shall be very similar to Niger and Chad, poor, landlocked and threatened by desertification. Working with the Yorubas woulb be more costly becuase the distance between the North and the sea from the west is bigger than the distant between the North and sea from the East side apart from that, the north won't benefit from the Niger if you chose to work with the west becuase river niger did not touch any part of the west.

Above all, the west won't buy your food becuase they are grounded in agriculture and they can build their own ranch so likely they won't buy your cow thereby your economy would be dead so if you hope the Igbos would buy your food and livestock that means you have to work with us otherwise we work with the west and other East and leave you behind to suffer by yourself

christistruth01:
Read Ojukwu's letter to Banjo

Ojukwu wanted Political and Military Control of all Yorubaland

I agree it was a bad move

Really?

AlexBells:
Ironsi did not occupy Lagos by the force of arm per say, technically he wasn't part of the coup, after the first coup, the supreme military council was there, if anything in Aburi was to be held true then Ironsi was only the head of the supreme Military council which took decisions yet in Aburi which was the last time Ojukwu met with the rest of the Nigeria, Ironsi and Fajuyi's way about was still unkown, so Gowon apointed an acting Military governor for western region while making himself the supreme commander.

Now most of us are conversant with the w want that followed, the creation of states and more, since Gowon appointed an acting head of state for the West it meant that Ojukwu was fighting with Lagos since Gowon is based in Lagos as Biafra fought with Nigeria it was only common sense for Biafra to match towards Lagos, however Biafra could have played defence and not attack at first and repelled until the Nigerian side is demoralised, even at that there was no need matching out of Biafran territory for at least 6 months into the war

It wasn't an attack targeted on the west it Midwest but since the head of state was in Lagos, it was common sense to match towards it

Gen Ironsi occupied Lagos by force of Arms
Ironsi's takeover of Power was Completely unconstitutional
He was supposed to help Dipcherima that the rump Cabinet had selected as Acting Prime Minister on the Advice of the Attorney General Elias

An attack on Ore was an Attack against the West and the Biafrans Slaughtered Civilians there too

Ojukwu said his People were Slaughtered in the North not in West


Ojukwu's Biafran Army had no right to be Slaughtering Yorubas at Ore

christistruth01:
Gen Ironsi occupied Lagos by force of Arms
Ironsi's takeover of Power was Completely unconstitutional
He was supposed to help Dipcherima that the rump Cabinet had selected as Acting Prime Minister on the Advice of the Attorney General Elias

An attack on Ore was an Attack against the West and the Biafrans Slaughtered Civilians there too

Ojukwu said his People were Slaughtered in the North not in West


Ojukwu's Biafran Army had no right to be Slaughtering Yorubas at Ore

No matter how much we tried, we can not heal the brutality of an army on the move, even the most elite army in the world once they are in the move lots of carnage comes along.

We can say what we want today as people who were not in the eyes of the storm, whatever happens, the wars and those era had come and gone, however I appreciate that the regional/parliament governments was removed I also appreciate the war it came with a cost but it made a statement

funshint:
You're a slowpoke....the Ijaws and ND combined will finish you. You wan go fight wetin pass you. Abi only you can face MEND, Tompolo, Ayiri Emami and the other warlords with standby army. There's more to life than chestbeating. Is it your ESN that is giving you liver abi....you better don't wish for wetin pass you. This OP is both a kid and a clown combined.

Lol.. what do you mean by the ND combined.
You mean Akwa/Cross, then Urhobo and Benin lol keep living in delusionbro.
There's nothing like Niger Delta.

Michelle70:
i have always tried to avoid any banter with a fellow ijaw so i wont grant u the fight u seek.

Now go and ask which tribe first marginalized the southern minorities when we are all part of the eastern region.

Also try to find out why the SS region was created

You no get sense. You all wanted quota system and not competence. Nobody marginalized you, you all wanted free food and shouting awa oyel

2elliot:
You no get sense. You all wanted quota system and not competence. Nobody marginalized you, you all wanted free food and shouting awa oyel

u are still on my issue.

u are inconsequential upon zeroness and emptiness.

EndsarsReloaded:
I hope Nigeria survives with the renaissance Obi is bringing forth. Otherwise, if it collapses it's going to be bloody. The Ijaws like violence but it will only lead to their extinction if they ever challenge Igbos. They will be completely outnumbered and routed. While Igbos can raise an army of 5 million at short notice and they would be United in one accord, Ijaws doesn't have any centralized union and worse still they have relatively small population.

Kalahari, nembe, Bonny, and the other clans in bayelsa will be busy fighting over who controls which section similar to what Tompolo and Asari are doing today.

The Ijaws also lack the kind of intelligentia and technology at the disposal of Igbos. With just Yenegoa as the only standard city in their domain, straffing it by air is enough to put the rest of their country in disarray.

Nobody wants to join a losing side, the moment Opobo and Bonny people realize that Ijaw nation has been reduced to pockets of clans ruled by warlords, they would either decide to join Igbos to enjoy stability and progress or opt to be independent island states. Either way, Ijaw nation will be forever screwed.

It will be a similar situation to the South Sudan situation where they've been fighting themselves since gaining independence.

Unfortunately, Ijaws lack the vital ingredients to successfully run a country. They lack a central authority, no middle class, no unifying language, little or no diaspora that can mount pressure on the government, and lastly a disjointed territory that can breed warlords.

When I see some ignorant Ijaws asking for independence, I just shake my head. Without a big ethnic group to act as a stabilizing force, ijaws will descend to anarchy.

Meanwhile, let's pray that Nigeria succeeds and progresses else there will be doom.

look at the mirror and see your unorganized ibo of ipob vs autopilot,,,,,,,ipob vs massaob,,,,,ipob vs ebube agu,,,, autopilot vs ebube agu... You don't look mirror before you talk.. because all this your write-ups are just case of reverse.. all these your people I mentioned killing themselves but Ijaws me never one another..... Asari and tompolo will settled as usual..they have already settled.

if ibo men warriors or soldiers want to fight we Ijaws,,,what we will do is just to send our female warriors to go and withstand them...because it is not fair for Ijaw men to go for such fight, as it will be total genocidal for Ibos..............Ijaw men only fight a lion fight not a dog fight..

even Ijaw female warriors will be too hot for ibo soldiers to cope with,,,,what can balanced Ijaw vs ibo war, is ibo strongest male soldiers vs under12 years Ijaw warriors...

How can mortal being and immortal being fight? Population cannot saved mortals from such heavy fight..

AlexBells:
Nobody is even being our territorial or inland water into the questions, first we are discussing our brothers and sisters, God who put us in the Geography we are in knows that we have everything we need to survive however we are not living any of our people behind if for any reason Nigeria divides but if Nigeria remains one, we shall all be happy here with our people by the grace of God

come close to Opobo and die

AdakaBoro8:
come close to Opobo and die

It is your right to use your power of threat which I really appreciate but you got to threaten a mortal with something more consequential than death, cause it a price we all owe and the lucky ones pay with reason, it is honour to die for something

AlexBells:
It is your right to use your power of threat which I really appreciate but you got to threaten a mortal with something more consequential than death, cause it a price we all owe and the lucky ones pay with reason, it is honour to die for something

don't just come o