Office of President, tribe and religion have become the biggest dividing factors in Nigeria, and will be so for a long time to come. No divided house stands for long

Nigeria should be run as confederation, a situation where the three largest ethnic groups, Yorubas, Igbos and Hausa/Fulani have their own autonomous Regions, control their resources, internsl security

The minority ethic groups can then talk to themselves about creating their own Regions, or joining either of the three large ethnic groups, depending on who wants to be with who

With a weak centre and high autonomy for the confederating Regions, Presidency, tribe and religion wont matter, as development will be driven by the Regions, not the government at the centre

Nigeria should be a confederation, this unitary system that gives all powers to the government at the centre, willeke Nigeria no where

I can pick a few holes here, the centre can never be weak, let the big tribes go figure out themselves, if you make the center weaker, strong tribes can exploit it to seize the rest NO the center remains strong, unitary and ready to confront the majority, let the majority go and figure out themselves under the constitutions of Nigeria.

Nigeria have over 350 ethnic groups everyone can not dance to the wish of Igbo, Hausa/Fulani and Yoruba, if you are a true majority build your national government without looking to weaken the center, Nigeria can only be a unitary confederation not a pure confederation.

Any majority that gets tired of the union can leave in but first should try their hands on the federal military. Every responsible country especially one with ambitious nationalities like Nigeria needs a strong center, what you can argue for is the allowance of self determination of every people that's without threatening the center, which means you can build a university not a military base, you can build a rocket not a missile once you understand these things and also get a copy of the Nigerian constitution you would be glad you did.

Nothing is wrong with Nigeria, Nigerians are just yet to understand how to run a country, once we understand some of the things are not worth fighting for, just do your thing to prosper your nation in the right way and we can all progress

You are right 24hrs and twice on Tuesday. They can continue pretending while those with capacity are taking their families elsewhere.

gidgiddy:
Office of President, tribe and religion have become the biggest dividing factors in Nigeria, and will be so for a long time to come. No divided house stands for long

Nigeria should be run as confederation, a situation where the three largest ethnic groups, Yorubas, Igbos and Hausa/Fulani have their own autonomous Regions, control their resources, internsl security

The minority ethic groups can then talk to themselves about creating their own Regions, or joining either of the three large ethnic groups, depending on who wants to be with who

With a weak centre and high autonomy for the confederating Regions, Presidency, tribe and religion wont matter, as development will be driven by the Regions, not the government at the centre

Nigeria should be a confederation, this unitary system that gives all powers to the government at the centre, willeke Nigeria no where

Minorities will remain where they are. There are six geopolitical zones.

gidgiddy:
Office of President, tribe and religion have become the biggest dividing factors in Nigeria, and will be so for a long time to come. No divided house stands for long

Nigeria should be run as confederation, a situation where the three largest ethnic groups, Yorubas, Igbos and Hausa/Fulani have their own autonomous Regions, control their resources, internsl security

The minority ethic groups can then talk to themselves about creating their own Regions, or joining either of the three large ethnic groups, depending on who wants to be with who

With a weak centre and high autonomy for the confederating Regions, Presidency, tribe and religion wont matter, as development will be driven by the Regions, not the government at the centre

Nigeria should be a confederation, this unitary system that gives all powers to the government at the centre, willeke Nigeria no where

Remind your audience about the tribe that dismantled our confederation and instituted unitary system of government.

Ijaw is as large as Igbo.Reason Ijaw asked for its own Region during the days of Regions.

Cyberterror:


Remind your audience about the tribe that dismantled our confederation and instituted unitary system of government.

We dismantled it and shall dismantle it again if it ever repeats, it was a regional/parliamentary government that run on fraudulent Artificial lines of East, west, north and midwest that does not represent any west African identity or people

666Advocate:
Ijaw is as large as Igbo.Reason Ijaw asked for its own Region during the days of Regions.

Your population your problem, now get lost

Cyberterror:


Remind your audience about the tribe that dismantled our confederation and instituted unitary system of government.

Gowon did that with decree 14 where he abolished the 4 Regions of the time and created 12 states to replce it

AlexBells:
I can pick a few holes here, the centre can never be weak, let the big tribes go figure out themselves, if you make the center weaker, strong tribes can exploit it to seize the rest NO the center remains strong, unitary and ready to confront the majority, let the majority go and figure out themselves under the constitutions of Nigeria.

Nigeria have over 350 ethnic groups everyone can not dance to the wish of Igbo, Hausa/Fulani and Yoruba, if you are a true majority build your national government without looking to weaken the center, Nigeria can only be a unitary confederation not a pure confederation.

Any majority that gets tired of the union can leave in but first should try their hands on the federal military. Every responsible country especially one with ambitious nationalities like Nigeria needs a strong center, what you can argue for is the allowance of self determination of every people that's without threatening the center, which means you can build a university not a military base, you can build a rocket not a missile once you understand these things and also get a copy of the Nigerian constitution you would be glad you did.

Nothing is wrong with Nigeria, Nigerians are just yet to understand how to run a country, once we understand some of the things are not worth fighting for, just do your thing to prosper your nation in the right way and we can all progress

I advocate for more state creation, then after states creation 50% should go to states, 20 percent to the regional capital then 30% to the center... Concentrating power and recourse in Abuja makes development very slow ....


Devolution of powers will bring more healthy competition among the three regions..


Example I want East where we have from southern Kaduna, Taraba, Benue, Plateau Nasara,Eastern Kogi, the whole of SE and SS to be in one region carving southern part of Benue and northern part of Ebonyi as a capital of the region... Doing it this way will reduce the killing of Christians by Muslim because Eastern region is a region dominated by Christians hence making Eastern region to be in charge of their security...



Then in the West they should include Niger state, kwara state, western Part of Kogi and entire SW states as western region then having the capital of western region in Ilorin or Osun state.


The rest should be nothern region making Kano capital of nothern region.. Each region will have an elected regional head.

Then Abuja remains the capital territory ...


If this idea is implemented development will come faster than you expect..

Militants wont be bursting pipelines again because it would bounce back on then since whatever they are doing in their state will only affect their people in their states..

Boko boys will vanish because those sponsoring them wont have access to our Nat purse again.. Infact notherners would stand up and start fighting against boko because because they cant afford to be wasting their recourse that should be used to develop their region on boko haram

Gidgiddy

gidgiddy:
Office of President, tribe and religion have become the biggest dividing factors in Nigeria, and will be so for a long time to come. No divided house stands for long

Nigeria should be run as confederation, a situation where the three largest ethnic groups, Yorubas, Igbos and Hausa/Fulani have their own autonomous Regions, control their resources, internsl security

The minority ethic groups can then talk to themselves about creating their own Regions, or joining either of the three large ethnic groups, depending on who wants to be with who

With a weak centre and high autonomy for the confederating Regions, Presidency, tribe and religion wont matter, as development will be driven by the Regions, not the government at the centre

Nigeria should be a confederation, this unitary system that gives all powers to the government at the centre, willeke Nigeria no where

Now you're talking !!! So you have this type of sense in your head yet you are supporting IPOB fruitless thuggery, chaos and anarchy?

Let SE, SS and Middle belt leaders join SW leaders in agitating for what is shown below and it will be delivered.

After that no one will need the Presidency again. The North that is obsessed with it can even keep it forever so far as power has been devolved away from the centre towards States and regions of Nigeria.

pinkPUSSY:


I advocate for more state creation, then after states creation 50% should go to states, 20 percent to the regional capital then 30% to the center... Concentrating power and recourse in Abuja makes development very slow ....


Devolution of powers will bring more healthy competition among the three regions..


Example I want East where we have from southern Kaduna, Taraba, Benue, Plateau Nasara,Eastern Kogi, the whole of SE and SS to be in one region having Benue as capital of the region... Doing it this way will reduce the killing of Christians by Muslim because Eastern region is a region dominated by Christians hence making Eastern region to be in charge of their security...



Then in the West then should include Niger state, kwara state, western Part of Kogi and entire SW states and western region then having the capital of western region in Ilorin..


The rest should be nothern region making Kano capital of nothern region.. Each region will have an elected regional head.

Then Abuja remains the capital territory ...


If this idea is implemented development will come faster than you expect..

Militants wont be bursting pipelines again because it would bounce back on then since whatever they are doing in their state will only affect their people in their states..

Boko boys will vanish because those sponsoring them wont have access to our Nat purse again.. Infact notherners would stand up and start fighting against boko because because they cant afford to be wasting their recourse that should be used to develop their region on boko haram

Gidgiddy

That kind of arrangement would no longer work, it leads to the disappeared of nationalities. We don't want East, we want AlaIgbo first add that title to whatever arrangements you want with the Igbo nation, Nigeria can as well have 350 states, representing every district people with their heads, Igbo would be one state and Yoruba one state, Hausa/Fulani one state, Igala one state, Benin Kindgom one state that's where electoral college comes in, otherwise the current 36 states and capital is great, every people will figure out themselves within time and they can adapt to the current Nigeria.

States are only restricted from mining some class of resources, I bet each state control over 50% of their true resources, when was the last time you took a fraction of your farm products to the central government, the FG sef is near useless as they are only using oil and gas, what happens to tourism, what happens to technology and services, look nearly everyone is failing the country that's the bigger problem no one has responsibility.

If you add Benue, Southern kaduna and what have you to Biafra, how does that solve the problem of an Idoma man, the Idoma needs their own government, the Office of the Attah of Igala needs to step up, what happens if Igala buikd a university, would the attah die? How many cars are in his convoy, isn't that enough to build a world class hospital or secondary school please people chose to fail at all level then entirely blame the center, what stops the Oba of Benin from auctioning out 3 of th cars in his convoy and using it to build a small university of Benin kinddom

pinkPUSSY:


I advocate for more state creation, then after states creation 50% should go to states, 20 percent to the regional capital then 30% to the center... Concentrating power and recourse in Abuja makes development very slow ....


Devolution of powers will bring more healthy competition among the three regions..


Example I want East where we have from southern Kaduna, Taraba, Benue, Plateau Nasara,Eastern Kogi, the whole of SE and SS to be in one region having Benue as capital of the region... Doing it this way will reduce the killing of Christians by Muslim because Eastern region is a region dominated by Christians hence making Eastern region to be in charge of their security...



Then in the West then should include Niger state, kwara state, western Part of Kogi and entire SW states and western region then having the capital of western region in Ilorin..


The rest should be nothern region making Kano capital of nothern region.. Each region will have an elected regional head.

Then Abuja remains the capital territory ...


If this idea is implemented development will come faster than you expect..

Militants wont be bursting pipelines again because it would bounce back on then since whatever they are doing in their state will only affect their people in their states..

Boko boys will vanish because those sponsoring them wont have access to our Nat purse again.. Infact notherners would stand up and start fighting against boko because because they cant afford to be wasting their recourse that should be used to develop their region on boko haram

Gidgiddy

There's so much sense in this post, I had to give it a like. I have always wanted a practical solution to curb the unwarranted keelings of nothern christians.. this here is a good one, but then, we need to start from somewhere which is POs presidency.

We can still make this country work again.

candidtalk:


Now you're talking !!! So you have this type of sense in your head yet you are supporting IPOB fruitless thuggery, chaos and anarchy?

Let SE, SS and Middle belt leaders join SW leaders in agitating for what is shown below and it will be delivered.

After that no one will need the Presidency again. The North that is obsessed with it can even keep it forever so far as power has been devolved away from the centre towards States and regions of Nigeria.

I said that is how Nigeria should be run but I already know Nigeria will never be run that way, the North will never allow Nigeria to be restructured into s true federation or a confederation. And that we Igbos should keep agitating for independence from the failed state of Nigeria

What is even your stake in IPOB? You are neither Igbo nor resident in Igbo land. Why carry IPOB matter on your head like basket of Cassava?

AlexBells:

That kind of arrangement would no longer work, it leads to the disappeared of nationalities. We don't want East, we want AlaIgbo first add that title to whatever arrangements you want with the Igbo nation, Nigeria can as well have 350 states, representing every district people with their heads, Igbo would be one state and Yoruba one state, Hausa/Fulani one state, Igala one state, Benin Kindgom one state that's where electoral college comes in, otherwise the current 36 states and capital is great, every people will figure out themselves within time and they can adapt to the current Nigeria.

States are only restricted from mining some class of resources, I bet each state control over 50% of their true resources, when was the last time you took a fraction of your farm products to the central government, the FG sef is near useless as they are only using oil and gas, what happens to tourism, what happens to technology and services, look nearly everyone is failing the country that's the bigger problem no one has responsibility.

If you add Benue, Southern kaduna and what have you to Biafra, how does that solve the problem of an Idoma man, the Idoma needs their own government, the Office of the Attah of Igala needs to step up, what happens if Igala buikd a university, would the attah die? How many cars are in his convoy, isn't that enough to build a world class hospital or secondary school please people chose to fail at all level then entirely blame the center, what stops the Oba of Benin from auctioning out 3 of th cars in his convoy and using it to build a small university of Benin kinddom

I am not talking about Biafra, I am talking about regionalism...

There is too much power on the centre.. States are restricted by fed government from performing some important functions

pinkPUSSY:


I am not talking about Biafra, I am talking about regionalism...

There is too much power on the centre.. States are restricted by fed government from performing some important functions

Sorry the Biafra was an error, I mean to the East.

The power in the center is okay, Nigeria is a complex country and if the center is not strong Enough, the majority like the Igbo, Hausa/Fulani or Yoruba can wake up one day and seize the whole country.

Just don't worry, Nigeria will restructure on its own accord naturally, Nigeria is not ready for state police yet and licensing states to more resource exploration could trigger environmental degradation.

Everything is going well as much as I'm concerned, if you give states such resource control, you will see Enugu start mining coal, this one start mining that one and before you know it unregulated mining takes place, Gas can be mined from Imo but if there's the kind of resource control we want, Enugu will mine gas, Imo will mine, Anambra will mine, Abia will mone, then crude every state start monning, then all of oil producing states would be like PH and Ogoni cleanup would be a lesser concern.

Let's take things easy and grow as a nation. And as much as I'm concern, AlaIgbo would not enter any regional union if Igboland would not be a single union as a standalone union.

Don't join us with anybody so that we can do our thing without anyone shouting Igbo dominion

AlexBells:

Sorry the Biafra was an error, I mean to the East.

The power in the center is okay, Nigeria is a complex country and if the center is not strong Enough, the majority like the Igbo, Hausa/Fulani or Yoruba can wake up one day and seize the whole country.

Just don't worry, Nigeria will restructure on its own accord naturally, Nigeria is not ready for state police yet and licensing states to more resource exploration could trigger environmental degradation.

Everything is going well as much as I'm concerned, if you give states such resource control, you will see Enugu start mining coal, this one start mining that one and before you know it unregulated mining takes place, Gas can be mined from Imo but if there's the kind of resource control we want, Enugu will mine gas, Imo will mine, Anambra will mine, Abia will mone, then crude every state start monning, then all of oil producing states would be like PH and Ogoni cleanup would be a lesser concern.

Let's take things easy and grow as a nation. And as much as I'm concern, AlaIgbo would not enter any regional union if Igboland would not be a single union as a standalone union.

Don't join us with anybody so that we can do our thing without anyone shouting Igbo dominion

You are missing it... If it's all about secession I would like Igbos to be on their own, but if it's about regionalism within Nigeria for faster development then my point about is what I think is an alternative..


Just look at the people you gained an independence with, where are you and where are they today ?

gidgiddy:


I said that is how Nigeria should be run but I already know Nigeria will never be run that way, the North will never allow Nigeria to be restructured into s true federation or a confederation. And that we Igbos should keep agitating for independence from the failed state of Nigeria

What is even your stake in IPOB? You are neither Igbo nor resident in Igbo land. Why carry IPOB matter on your head like basket of Cassava?

I have no stake in IPOB and would even ordinarily wish them well were it not for the vile hate preaching and toxicity of IPOB leaders against the Yorubas you or any Igbo cannot deny.

Kanu was even at it during #EndSARS when he demanded the destruction of Lagos. If IPOB was not founded on a bedrock of hateful ideologies, no one can deny is directed at Yorubas, then I would never be bothered about the group.

Kanu and IPOB never localised their hate. They directed it at Yorubas but I know a dishonest individual like you will deny that reality.

socialjustice93:


There's so much sense in this post, I had to give it a like. I have always wanted a practical solution to curb the unwarranted keelings of nothern christians.. this here is a good one, but then, we need to start from somewhere which is POs presidency.

We can still make this country work again.

Sometimes I fantasize about it, but I don't knw how to go about it ...

The destruction of lives and properties are getting too much and Islamic fulani fanatics want to overrun this country with their killings ...

Nobody is going to the farm again due to killings and prices of food is skyrocketing...

For how long shall we continue like this ?

pinkPUSSY:


You are missing it... If it's all about secession I would like Igbos to be on their own, but if it's about regionalism within Nigeria for faster development then my point about is what I think is an alternative..


Just look at the people you gained an independence with, where are you and where are they today ?

Both for the point of secession and autonomy, AlaIgbo should be distinct. AlaIgbo should include all of Igbo territories in South East, South South and North Central.

We don't want a revert to regional/parliament government, we went through a war, recovered and right now performing well, once AlaIgbo is unified you would then understand how far we have gone, For a starter, AlaIgbo have 7 state capitals (Enugu, Owerri, Umuahia, PH, Asaba, Awka, Abakiliki) that's the part that can stay with us in a nutshell then Delta Igbos, Rivers Igbos, Benue Igbos, Igbanke, and Igbos in Cross River and Akwaibom that's all we need whether as a region or independent country.

As a confederation we shall enter such Nigerian Confederate arrangements as AlaIgbo or Igbo Region or Igbo Province however you want to put it but we are not going to be lumped with other people anyone let's everyone answer their name let us cooperate where we can and differentiate where we should

AlexBells:

Both for the point of secession and autonomy, AlaIgbo should be distinct. AlaIgbo should include all of Igbo territories in South East, South South and North Central.

We don't want a revert to regional/parliament government, we went through a war, recovered and right now performing well, once AlaIgbo is unified you would then understand how far we have gone, For a starter, AlaIgbo have 7 state capitals (Enugu, Owerri, Umuahia, PH, Asaba, Awka, Abakiliki) that's the part that can stay with us in a nutshell then Delta Igbos, Rivers Igbos, Benue Igbos, Igbanke, and Igbos in Cross River and Akwaibom that's all we need whether as a region or independent country.

As a confederation we shall enter such Nigerian Confederate arrangements as AlaIgbo or Igbo Region or Igbo Province however you want to put it but we are not going to be lumped with other people anyone let's everyone answer their name let us cooperate where we can and differentiate where we should

Ur point is cool too

AlexBells:

Sorry the Biafra was an error, I mean to the East.

The power in the center is okay, Nigeria is a complex country and if the center is not strong Enough, the majority like the Igbo, Hausa/Fulani or Yoruba can wake up one day and seize the whole country.

Just don't worry, Nigeria will restructure on its own accord naturally, Nigeria is not ready for state police yet and licensing states to more resource exploration could trigger environmental degradation.

Everything is going well as much as I'm concerned, if you give states such resource control, you will see Enugu start mining coal, this one start mining that one and before you know it unregulated mining takes place, Gas can be mined from Imo but if there's the kind of resource control we want, Enugu will mine gas, Imo will mine, Anambra will mine, Abia will mone, then crude every state start monning, then all of oil producing states would be like PH and Ogoni cleanup would be a lesser concern.

Let's take things easy and grow as a nation. And as much as I'm concern, AlaIgbo would not enter any regional union if Igboland would not be a single union as a standalone union.

Don't join us with anybody so that we can do our thing without anyone shouting Igbo dominion

Rubbish. We are using the same governance structure as the USA yet we refuse to adopt the essential bedrock policies that has made the USA the greatest and most productive democracy in the world while our own fake and contrived democracy continue to be mired in the mud of ethnic, religious and sectional bigotry anchored on the potentials for gross abuse of power by anyone controlling the centre.

The USA has State policing and States have their own constitution with good latitude and autonomy to adopt socio-economic policies best for them. You've always been a very confused individual, and a Daniel Kanu sort of Igbo man, but this your talk here is just incredibly senseless given what we are facing today.

Even if you want to argue the case against State policing, can you dismiss regional policing? Which region of Nigeria cannot convene and maintain her own police force?

The black man's potentials for abusing ultimate power is monumental with Africa bearing testimony to this by being the home of dictatorship till today.

Only a fool or a dishonest person will not understand that Nigeria has exemplified this with even Buhari's Presidency being a current and poignant example of this reality.

To ever make progress, we must start ensuring we move away from investing so much power and authority in one man and one office especially because the consideration of checks and balances, meant to prevent abuse of power, is almost totally absent in Nigeria.

Because of who and what we Niherians are, the over-powerful centre will always be abused. Regional governance, putting people who share ethnic and regional affinity in charge of their own affairs, is the only way out for us all.

pinkPUSSY:


Sometimes I fantasize about it, but I don't knw how to go about it ...

The destruction of lives and properties are getting too much and Islamic fulani fanatics want to overrun this country with their killings ...

Nobody is going to the farm again due to killings and prices of food is skyrocketing...

For how long shall we continue like this ?

Fulanis are the problem of this country. It pains me how southerners keep fighting themselves when its obvious fulanis are our common enemy.

Only POs presidency can put a stop to their evil menaces, not the thieving emilokan or mikano criminal..

candidtalk:


I have no stake in IPOB and would even ordinarily wish them well were it not for the vile hate preaching and toxicity of IPOB leaders against the Yorubas you or any Igbo cannot deny.

Kanu was even at it during #EndSARS when he demanded the destruction of Lagos. If IPOB was not founded on a bedrock of hateful ideologies, no one can deny is directed at Yorubas, then I would never be bothered about the group.

Lol

So your problem is the vile hate IPOB has against Yorubas? Did you expect everyone to love Yorubas? Hate is a natural human emotion, and if you feel that IPOB hates Yorubas, all the more reason to support them to go their way as a seperate country

Instead, you are more concerned about insecurity in the South East you dont belong to. You are concerned about Nnamdi Kanu, who only wants to get his people out of Nigeria

And to show that you are a fraud, you dont show this level of concern when Fulani herdsmen are slaughtering people in the South West in places like Molege in Ondo, Imekon-Afon in Ogun, Ibarapa in Oyo

But someones problem is hate speech? Some Yorubas make me laugh. They are being slaughtered in their own land yet their problem is IPOB and Nnamdi Kanu

candidtalk:


Rubbish. We are using the same governance structure as the USA yet we refuse to adopt the essential bedrock policies that has made the USA the greatest and most productive democracy in the world while our own fake and contrived democracy continue to be mired in the mud of ethnic, religious and sectional bigotry anchored on the potentials for gross abuse of power by anyone controlling the centre.

The USA has State policing and States have their own constitution with good latitude and autonomy to adopt socio-economic policies best for them. You've always been a very confused individual, and a Daniel Kanu sort of Igbo man, but this your talk here is just incredibly senseless given what we are facing today.

Even if you want to argue the case against a state policing, can you dismiss regional policing? Which region of Nigeria cannot convene and maintain her own police force?

The black man's potentials for abusing ultimate power is monumental and only a fool will not understand that Nigeria has exemplified this with even Buhari's Presidency being a current and poignant example of this reality.

To ever make progress, we must start ensuring we move away from investing so much power and authority in one man and one office especially because the consideration of checks and balances, meant to prevent abuse of power, is almost totally absent in Nigeria.

Because of who and what we are, the over-powerful centre will always be abused. Regional governance, putting people who share ethnic and regional affinity in charge of their own affairs, is the only way out for us all.

We are here to discuss not to insult then let me attend to you, you can't practice the exact American thing in Nigeria because Nigeria is way more sophisticated, in America the people of Maryland is a distinct people whereas in Nigeria the people of Enugu, Ebonyi, Anambra etc are all Igbo people, do you know the concept of electoral collage and why it is used in thr US, if we practice the American system, AlaIgbo shall be one state with more slot in the electoral college while Isoko would also be one state with very little slot in the electoral collage.

You just don't pay attention to details and thats the problem, Nigeris is very dangerously tribal and Enugu state police would constitute mainly Igbos what do you think would be the fate of Fulanis or Yorubas in the face of such ethnic policing. It is bigger than you think. If you say state mine your resources no one would debate that but currently all lands belong to the states by Nigerian constitution what does that show you? We are yet to learn how to run a country that's the major problem

gidgiddy:


Lol

So your problem is the vile hate IPOB has against Yorubas? Did you expect everyone to love Yorubas? Hate is a natural human emotion, and if you feel that IPOB hates Yorubas, all the more reason to support them to go their way as a seperate country

Instead, you are more concerned about insecurity in the South East you dont belong to. You are concerned about Nnamdi Kanu, who only wants to get his people out of Nigeria

And to show that you are a fraud, you dont show this level of concern when Fulani herdsmen are slaughtering people in the South West in places like Molege in Ondo, Imekon-Afon in Ogun, Ibarapa in Oyo

But someones problem is hate speech? Some Yorubas make me laugh. They are being slaughtered in their own land yet their problem is IPOB and Nnamdi Kanu

You're the fraud not me. Refer to my posts to note what I think of Buhari and why I am a vociferous fan of State/regional policing and a return to regional governance that will allow the SW protect lives and property optimally plus grant the freedom to craft socio-economic policies that will accelerate progress and free the region from.the lunacy of 'one Nigeria'.

I am very consistent with my views unlike you who is IPOB yet became a staunch backer of Obi and strong critic of Tinubu recently and after 'Him Tu Lie' became Labour Presidential candidate.

gidgiddy:


Gowon did that with decree 14 where he abolished the 4 Regions of the time and created 12 states to replce it

@CYBERTERROR,..now you know.

AlexBells:

We are here to discuss not to insult then let me attend to you, you can't practice the exact American thing in Nigeria because Nigeria is way more sophisticated, in America the people of Maryland is a distinct people whereas in Nigeria the people of Enugu, Ebonyi, Anambra etc are all Igbo people, do you know the concept of electoral collage and why it is used in thr US, if we practice the American system, AlaIgbo shall be one state with more slot in the electoral college while Isoko would also be one state with very little slot in the electoral collage.

You just don't pay attention to details and thats the problem, Nigeris is very dangerously tribal and Enugu state police would constitute mainly Igbos what do you think would be the fate of Fulanis or Yorubas in the face of such ethnic policing. It is bigger than you think. If you say state mine your resources no one would debate that but currently all lands belong to the states by Nigerian constitution what does that show you? We are yet to learn how to run a country that's the major problem

You make me laugh. You're myopic and cannot understand how changes can embed positive evolutionary trends.

State or regional Policing will have teething problems but it will grow long-term into the most effective system of policing for ending insecurity in Nigeria.

The Metropolitan police force, I.e London Police, was institutionally racist even as recently as 25-30 years ago.

Yet it has evolved to become a force hosting minority police officers all dedicated to preventing and arresting crime in London.

The Nigerian police force fails because of the political bias and abuse of power directing the actions of its personnel that delivers the unfair and ethno-fascist policing we see today in Southern Nigeria.

You must have been on Mars when Amotekun officers complain bitterly that Fulani offenders they apprehend and hand over to the police are always released without charge based on "orders from above".

How will certain crime, especially those that involve loss of lives and heighten the risk of ethnic strife, ever end if political abuse of power ensures certain perpetrators cannot be prosecuted aggressively and robustly because of their ethnic origin?

Do you know better than many Southern leaders, who are in officers and dealing with the reality of insecurity, now vociferously demanding State policing?

candidtalk:


You make me laugh. You're myopic and cannot understand how changes can embed positive evolutionary trends.

State or regional Policing will have teething problems but it will grow long-term into the most effective system of policing for ending insecurity in Nigeria.

The Metropolitan police force, I.e London Police, was institutional racist even as recently as 25-30 years ago.

Yet it has evolved to become a force hosting minority police officers all dedicated to preventing and arresting crime in London.

The Nigerian police force fails because of the political bias and abuse of power directing the actions of its personnel that delivers the unfair and ethno-fascist policing we see today in Southern Nigeria.

You must have been on Mars when Amotekun officers complain bitterly that Fulani offenders they apprehend and hand over to the police are always released without charge based on "orders from above".

How will certain crime, especially those that involve loss of lives and heighten the risk of ethnic strife, ever end if political abuse of power ensures certain perpetrators cannot be prosecuted aggressively and robustly because of their ethnic origin?

Do you know better than many Southern leaders, who are in officers and dealing with the reality of insecurity, now vociferously demanding State policing?

Let them go and Gazette their own state security apparatus, the federal police stays. This thing is simple Nigeria is not currently ripe for state security apparatus to be allowed some kind of weapons in the United States, there's the FBI, Homeland, CIA, and the each state has their own police, does it mean Nigerian state has no security apparatus?

To the best of my knowledge, there's state security apparatus though not with the nomenclature of police, my major worries is the kind of weapons available to them and how often they could be abused.

Even in US there's cases of police indiscriminately killing blacks and you think Nigeria with deep tribalism would not see police targeting perceived enemy ethnicity.

State security bodies should be licensed with snipers not assault rifles, they can acquire helicopters and drones if they have the money. Most police abroad don't even weild gun if threats are not perceived and for those who use guns, mostly not an assault rifle unless on special ground most police use smaller to medium range firearms.

Every reasonable person should be concerned about armed proliferation and terrorism and giving regional police could be an easy way to arm terrorists let's not create more problem trying to solve problems. I'm not against state security however there should be Consideration on some kind of arms license they are given. Helicopters, Drones, moderate gas, low grade bio weapons yes assault rifles, grenades, rocket propelled grenades (RPG), bombs HELL NO, for now no state police please.

You can buy helicopters, drones, snipers and some mild gas for Amorekun or any other state security apparatus but police should stay Federal for now and such state security MUST be under the federal police for now

These are the kind of conversations we should be having, different ideas as to how to move this country forward. Obviously, things are not workable the way Nigeria is structured. Its like building a house on a very poor foundation. It is not sustainable.

candidtalk:


You're the fraud not me. Refer to my posts to note what I think of Buhari and why I am a vociferous fan of State/regional policing and a return to regional governance that will allow the SW protect lives and property optimally plus grant the freedom to craft socio-economic policies that will accelerate progress and free the region from.the lunacy of 'one Nigeria'.

I am very consistent with my views unlike you who is IPOB yet became a staunch backer of Obi and strong critic of Tinubu recently and after 'Him Tu Lie' became Labour Presidential candidate.

This is all about the natural hate you people have for Igbos.

Thats why you cannot talk about Fulani herdsmen slaughtering people in Ondo, Oyo, Ogun and Osun, but you will be on any thread about insecurity in the South East

Talking about IPOB when the IPOB is all about leaving Nigeria

I dont know how people can hate Igbos so much, but still be against Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB that only want Igbos to go their way

Read below what you wrote about Igbos