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| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by OJEEMAH(m): 2:41pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
ThierryJay: ![]() We’ve always told them how ordinary Ronaldo can be without scoring goals but them no dey gree. He’s not scoring instead of facing fact, most of them go say him don old…… Last season, even when Messi wasn’t scoring, he was playmaking and assisting as usual. Do you think Ten Hag would bench Messi in this present United set up? No because if Messi is not useful upfront, he can be very useful as a playmaker and that’s the difference we have tried to make them understand all these years. |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by ThierryJay: 3:06pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
OJEEMAH:Yeah. You know it's hard swallowing a bitter pill and conceding defeat when you've been arguing strong-headedly for years. So some of them now just argue for face-saving sake. Ronaldo's abandonment of his supportive abilities long ago is now coming back to haunt him. At least if he still knew how to move ball and distribute key passes, he wouldn't be chopping bench anyhow for club and country now. In Messi's worst season, he still recorded 25 direct goal involvements. If he was only a scorer, he'd have been relegated to bench since. Anyway, Pendu has truly tried at 37 plus and should ordinarily retire and enjoy his life but the fear of Messi no go let am rest. Messi wey no send am. Reminds me of the proverb: the wicked runneth about when no man pursueth them ![]() |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by Beverlyjean(f): 5:00pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
OJEEMAH:U cant judge players without also considering the team... if its by players performance then Ronaldo yet again will top cos he has been his teams best player since 2005/ 2006 season till date .... Now, the only reason Messi and Barcelona did so well from 2009 to 2015, was because of iniesta and xavi , that was the same period Spain won the world cup , sandwiched in between 2 Euros ... the Spanish national team ruled the world and it reflected on barca .... but when iniesta and xavi started to wear off due to age , the Spanish national team started to struggle, so as barca ... and at that same period, Argentina were nothing to right home about ...if messi was that spectacular, y dint Argentina win one title.... but look at Ronaldo, at his peak was from 2010 to 2017 ... Portugal that had never won a tea cup in their history won the Euros , Portugal that had only played in 2 World cups , started qualifying for every world cup, Portugal that had never played in a final , played their first ever final in 2004 when Ronaldo first joined the national team I said Ronaldo bossed the UCL from 2014 thru to 2018... the difference between his performance and messis is that Messi was the reason the got knocked out against Chelsea in 2012 missed a crucial penalty and cudnt score in both games , against inter in 2010 , he was just like a mere spectator while Sneijner bossed both games, he dint score a single goal in both games... in 2015 , Madrid lost 2.1 in Turin and played 2.2 in Madrid with Ronaldo scoring all goals for Madrid, now that's the difference I will pin madrids success at that time to Ronaldo cos his achievements for Madrid was 10 times better than whatever Messi did for barca ... when iniesta and xavi left , Messi cudnt see finals again ... as I earlier said barca were at their peak from 2009 through to 2015 ... Madrid peaked from 2014 thru to 2018 ... so Ronaldo at barca wud hv destroyed the UCL better during their peak days... if messi was at Madrid between 2009 and 2013... he wudnt hv won shishi... So it was ozil , mourinho, di Maria , Bale , modric that made his win it at Manchester utd ... Bale modric di Maria and ozil that sud be thankful to Ronaldo for helping them see their first champions league ..had they ever won champions league b4 ?? Messi should be the one thanking iniesta ronaldinho , eto and xavi for making him win his champions league titles... Eto still won it at inter ... since they all left, barca became a flop and a disgrace I the UCL , until now that it seems they are back ... Another lie by messi fans ... messi dint score against Madrid in Ronaldo’s final season ... that 3.2 win , came in 2017 and he dint score a brace , he scored the winner.. in 2017/ 2018 season , Ronaldo scored the winner against barca in the super cup as he came in as a sub and fired a screamer ... he also scored on the league game that season when they also defeated barca .... that winner by messi in that 3.2 win was messis last goal for Barcelona against Madrid Now mention messis moment of brilliance in that game ?? I told u that Ronaldo’s brilliance won them 2 penalties and u are here saying what brilliance did he show ?? Miles ahead and he collected 3 goals and was just wasting his chances just cos Ronaldo was scoring while he was failing ... mention one thing he did that day... |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by OJEEMAH(m): 9:00am On Sep 27, 2022*. Modified: 9:22am On Sep 27, 2022 |
Beverlyjean:Did you say 05/06? Please when did Van Nistelrooy leave Man United? You nailed yourself….. since you can’t judge a player without considering his team, why was Juventus drowning with Ronaldo’s goals? Why did Man U struggle last season despite the fact that Ronaldo scored 24goals in all competition? Now, the only reason Messi and Barcelona did so well from 2009 to 2015, was because of iniesta and xavi , that was the same period Spain won the world cup , sandwiched in between 2 Euros ... the Spanish national team ruled the world and it reflected on barcaAnother effort to discredit Messi as usual but it’s okay. Did Iniesta & Xavi play for Argentina in 2014 World Cup or the series of finals he led Argentina to but lost due to luck? Messi has always done well with Argentina. He has just been unfortunate with his National Team….. losing 4 Copa America and 1 Wold Cup finals. Alittle bit of luck would have won atleast 3 Copa America for Argentina. Playing back to back finals shows consistency. Argentina struggled to qualify for 2018 World Cup until Messi came out of retirement to bang a hattrick against Ecuador? Wow! Since Xavi & Iniesta are solely responsible for Barcelona’s success because they won the “World Cup and sandwiched in between 2 Euros.” Then it’s safe to say Rooney, Scholes, Giggs, Modric, Kroos, Marcelo & Benzema were all responsible for Ronaldo’s success because between 2018-2022, they’ve won the UCL and 2 La liga titles without Ronaldo and every football fan knows Ronaldo has not seen UCL semis or even competed for UCL Top scorer since he joined and left Juventus. but when iniesta and xavi started to wear off due to age , the Spanish national team started to struggle, so as barca ... and at that same period, Argentina were nothing to right home about ...if messi was that spectacular, y dint Argentina win one title.Atleast without Xavi & Iniesta, he led to another Barcelona la liga title, Copa Del Rey & UCL semis. Without Iniesta & Xavi, he still won European Golden Boot, UCL Top Scorer, highest goals & assists in la liga year in, year out. Without Iniesta & Xavi, he finished as Copa America Best Player, Top Scorer & Provided the highest assist in the tournament. Now, what has Ronaldo achieved after he left Modric, Kroos, Marcelo & Benzema? but look at Ronaldo, at his peak was from 2010 to 2017 ... Portugal that had never won a tea cup in their history won the Euros , Portugal that had only played in 2 World cups , started qualifying for every world cup, Portugal that had never played in a final , played their first ever final in 2004 when Ronaldo first joined the national teamIf France had beaten them in 2016 finals, I am very sure you would have said it’s because Ronaldo didn’t play. Portugal didn’t win because of Ronaldo. It was their time just like it happened to Greece in Euro 2004 and Chelsea in 2012 & may be 2021 in UCL….. Seasons when Chelsea played well, they keep knocking them out but in 2012 when everyone had written them off with their poor form and inexperience coach, they surprised everyone from the Napoli, Benfica, Barcelona & even Bayern in their own turf. It happens once in a while in football……if Ronaldo had played in Figo’s era, he probably would have won nothing with the national team as well. Everyone could see the luck that accompanied Portugal to the final…..they struggled in 3group games against tournament minors and also qualified as best losers…… omo, it had nothing to do with Ronaldo’s effort cos they still won without him in the final. I said Ronaldo bossed the UCL from 2014 thru to 2018... the difference between his performance and messis is that Messi was the reason the got knocked out against Chelsea in 2012 missed a crucial penalty and cudnt score in both games , against inter in 2010 , he was just like a mere spectator while Sneijner bossed both games, he dint score a single goal in both games... in 2015 , Madrid lost 2.1 in Turin and played 2.2 in Madrid with Ronaldo scoring all goals for Madrid, now that's the differenceYou analogy is flawed for a player who finished top scorer in the UCL 5 out of 7times and also won 3 UCL titles within the same period. Apart from Bayern, Inter, Chelsea & ATM were all solid with their defensive work because that was the only way to stop Barcelona at the time. The Iniesta & Xavi you so love to praise couldn’t break down ATM, Chelsea & Inter like they did to other teams. Teams do not really defend for Real Madrid like they do to Barcelona Teams focus more on stopping Messi unlike Ronaldo We have constantly witnessed Messi been surrounded by 3 players especially when he’s up against defensive teams and that’s the reason Madrid and most English teams suffered except Chelsea cos they always defend against Barcelona. Apart from ATM, Ronaldo did not play any solid defensive team during their UCL run. Don’t mention Juventus cos they rarely defend And in 2014 UCL final against ATM, he scored 4th goal and its not from open play……. It was a penalty. In 2015 UCL quarter final against ATM, no goal home and away. In 2016 finals against ATM, he still didn’t score and it’s because they defend to superior teams It was only in 2017 semis, he scored in the first leg. I will pin madrids success at that time to Ronaldo cos his achievements for Madrid was 10 times better than whatever Messi did for barca ... when iniesta and xavi left , Messi cudnt see finals again ... as I earlier said barca were at their peak from 2009 through to 2015 ... Madrid peaked from 2014 thru to 2018 ... so Ronaldo at barca wud hv destroyed the UCL better during their peak days... if messi was at Madrid between 2009 and 2013... he wudnt hv won shishi...Poor recruitment by Bartomeu led to their downfall not Iniesta & Xavi’s exit…… Is it Messi fault that Bartomeu invested heavily on underperforming Coutinho & Greizman? Or Messi is responsible for Dembele’s injury crisis? So it was ozil , mourinho, di Maria , Bale , modric that made his win it at Manchester utd ... Bale modric di Maria and ozil that sud be thankful to Ronaldo for helping them see their first champions league ..had they ever won champions league b4 ?? Messi should be the one thanking iniesta ronaldinho , eto and xavi for making him win his champions league titles... Eto still won it at inter ... since they all left, barca became a flop and a disgrace I the UCL , until now that it seems they are back ...Okay. Messi is thankful Is Ronaldo thankful to Giggs, Scholes & Neville for helping him win his first UCL? cos we both know he never won it before he joined Man United too. Another lie by messi fans ... messi dint score against Madrid in Ronaldo’s final season ... that 3.2 win , came in 2017 and he dint score a brace , he scored the winner.. in 2017/ 2018 season , Ronaldo scored the winner against barca in the super cup as he came in as a sub and fired a screamer ... he also scored on the league game that season when they also defeated barca .... that winner by messi in that 3.2 win was messis last goal for Barcelona against MadridMessi scored in Ronaldo’s last 2 Classico game….. Real Madrid lost 0-3 at Bernabeu then played 2-2 at camp Nou….. Messi scored in both games. Check the screenshots and look at the dates Now mention messis moment of brilliance in that game ?? I told u that Ronaldo’s brilliance won them 2 penalties and u are here saying what brilliance did he show ?? Miles aheadNot true……he won the first but played both. Scoring 2 penalties is your definition of Ronaldo’s brilliance Messi does not need goals or maybe score 2 penalties to be on the spotlight His general gameplay speaks volume If not for the penalties, nobody would even notice Ronaldo in that game but his fans will blow his trumpet as if he did something spectacular
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| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by OJEEMAH(m): 9:03am On Sep 27, 2022 |
ThierryJay: ![]() He desperately wants his goal scoring record intact cos that’s the only way history will continue to remember him or maybe compare him with other greats. |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by ugwuadudave(m): 9:18am On Sep 27, 2022 |
Una still dey fight on top this matter. Na wa o |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by ugwuadudave(m): 9:31am On Sep 27, 2022 |
''You can't judge a player without considering his team" But if we call juve or man u, story go change. This kind double standards sha |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by OJEEMAH(m): 2:51pm On Sep 27, 2022 |
ugwuadudave:exactly my point |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by Alphastudent(m): 3:16pm On Sep 27, 2022 |
Una get strength to argueoo someone said messi would have been empty handed without dimaria on international level ![]() As if ronaldo scored in euro 16 or UNL finals Ronaldo wasn't best player or top scorer in any of the tournaments that he won At Copa america 21 messi was both top scorer,top assist and best player..but na dimaria give am trophy LOL..Na Eder give Cr7 international trophy abi? Lets not forget that ronaldo lost 2004 euro at home ![]() Dont argue ronaldo vs messi with females,they just like who they would rather fvck..forgetting than fine boi or Instagram followers is not the si unit of football |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by Alphastudent(m): 3:18pm On Sep 27, 2022 |
Beverlyjean:The same way eder won international trophy for Cr7 abi...when eder was not there in euro 2004 final in Lisbon..he was no where to be found and lost to greece ![]() |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by Alphastudent(m): 3:33pm On Sep 27, 2022 |
Beverlyjean:Fake stat sissy And if you looking for people that have travel around the globe like Christopher Columbus ..which is nothing special btw thenSuarez was top scorer in epl,laliga and eredivisie(where among europe top 5 league at the time) Zlatan is The only player to have scored at least a goal in De Klassieker in Netherlands, Derby della Madonnina and Derby d'Italia in Italy, El Clásico and Derbi barceloní in Spain, Le Classique in France, Manchester Derby and North-West Derby in England, El Tráfico and California Clásico in United States. Zlatan even did it in america ![]() |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by Beverlyjean(f): 4:18pm On Sep 27, 2022 |
Alphastudent:At no time was the Dutch league among the top 5 when suarez was there ... infact it just improved now... Premiership La liga Serie A Bundesliga Ligue 1 Portuguese league Eredivisie |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by Alphastudent(m): 5:06pm On Sep 27, 2022 |
Beverlyjean:Do your research Ozil,dimaria,midric and kroos also carried ronaldo because since left them,no UCL..But madrid has won it..now they have agreed to carry benzema and benzema will win the ballon d'or Fact is that NO PLAYER can single handedly carry a team to UCL glory..you can onky contribute the highest quota If maguire was in madrid i can bet my balls that even if ronaldo scored 25 Ucl goals in one season he wouldnt have been successful.Why did he try to force a move in the break? Why didn't he carry the team alone to UCL Players compliment each other so your UCL this UCL that is a hoax...player around can make you very successful or terrible |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by Beverlyjean(f): 6:32pm On Sep 27, 2022 |
Alphastudent:Ozil modric bale di Maria benzema never won the champions league b4 Ronaldo... Ronaldo won the champions league without them in Manchester and that was the reason real madrid signed him... |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by Alphastudent(m): 6:40pm On Sep 27, 2022 |
Beverlyjean:Ok so xavi and iniesta and neymar did? You just keep shooting yourself in the foot. But you do know alot about football for a female kudos |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by Beverlyjean(f): 7:06pm On Sep 27, 2022 |
Alphastudent:Xavi , iniesta had won it with Ronaldinho and eto... xavi and iniesta won world cup and European cup titles... they retired and messi cudnt see final again |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by Alphastudent(m): 8:40pm On Sep 27, 2022 |
Beverlyjean:They signed him in 2009 but he couldn't win it for 5years ..i guess he had to wait for them b4 winning it ![]() |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by Alphastudent(m): 8:42pm On Sep 27, 2022 |
Beverlyjean:Messi was there in 2006 when they first won it so i guess they couldn't win it before messi joined them |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by Beverlyjean(f): 8:45pm On Sep 27, 2022 |
Alphastudent:Messi that dint play knock out... even hazard winning it with Madrid was more deserving... messi that dint play more than 3 games... and it was in he group... he won it just because he was registered |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by Beverlyjean(f): 8:47pm On Sep 27, 2022 |
Alphastudent:Y cant u think properly ... he was signed to win them the CL ..and he did it in 2014...breaking the scoring record with 17 goals... when he was signed , Madrid were in shambles..it was a process , a rebuild ...and he won it 4 times out of his last 5 seasons |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by Alphastudent(m): 9:41pm On Sep 27, 2022 |
Beverlyjean:And where was he tonight in lisbon? ![]() Parte after parte ![]() |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by Beverlyjean(f): 10:10pm On Sep 27, 2022 |
Alphastudent:Was he the only one that played?? Whr was Messi from 2006 thru to 2020 ...a whole 14 yrs for Argentina...the fraud stealing di Marias shine... he is begging di Maria not to retire cis without di Maria, he is useless |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by ugwuadudave(m): 10:11pm On Sep 27, 2022 |
OJEEMAH:It's tiresome arguing with a ronaldo fanatic sometimes. Them go just release one point today when e favour them, change mouth tomorrow if e no favour them again eg balon d'or, the above statement from our aunty and so on. |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by maxwell530(m): 10:14pm On Sep 27, 2022 |
Alphastudent:you get a lot of time on your hands to be replying that troll. She must've been waiting anxiously to see her goat get on the scoresheet tonight so as to come here and feast, unfortunately her goat ghosted while Spain advanced to the finals ![]() Someone said Messi is stealing Di Maria's shine and you still take her serious? Wahala ![]() |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by ugwuadudave(m): 10:24pm On Sep 27, 2022 |
maxwell530:Are they out of the nations league? |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by maxwell530(m): 10:54pm On Sep 27, 2022 |
ugwuadudave:Only the leader of each group will proceed to the next round, Spain won the group with the win over Portugal. |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by OJEEMAH(m): 10:58pm On Sep 27, 2022 |
ugwuadudave:changing the narrative to suit their argument but e dey always backfire |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by Alphastudent(m): 9:04am On Sep 28, 2022 |
Beverlyjean:Ok so now he is not the only one to blame or the only one on the pitch abi? But if he had scored now it would have been ronaldo this,ronaldo that, ronaldo carried Portugal,without ronaldo Portugal is finished una sabi change mouth aswrCr7 is finished, deal with it ![]() |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by Beverlyjean(f): 10:02am On Sep 28, 2022 |
Alphastudent:Deal with ur finished life first.. look at u that might even be begging for food this morning is calling someone that can fully take care of ur generation and whole village even after he has left the world... |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by Alphastudent(m): 10:40am On Sep 28, 2022 |
Beverlyjean:Eyah because he is finished You don change am to feed my village and generation ![]() I knew you where going to say that..thats how pathetic and petty sore losers talk Well messi can feed yours and i can too ![]() |
| Re: Barça Get Down To Work With Messi by Peacecore: 11:28am On Sep 29, 2022 |
Beverlyjean:What's the problem with you, Wasiuu's fans sef. Because Suarez scored 40 goals means that Lewy will scire 100 with d same players? Haha! Have u asked yasef , out of d 40 goals, how many was assist from Messi? Do u want now to talk about qualities of players; didn't Ronaldo play with one of the best squads in history of football? So a team that had Modric, Kroos, Marcelo,Casemiro, Benzema, Isco, Bale,Khedira, Di Maria etc is an average team. Wake up and stop hating! |
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