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US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by bn365: 10:13am On Sep 28, 2022
European countries are investigating three mystery leaks in two major gas pipelines between Russia and Europe. The cause of the damage to Nord Stream 1 and 2 is unclear.
Seismologists reported underwater blasts before the leaks emerged.

"There is no doubt that these were explosions," said Bjorn Lund of Sweden's National Seismology Centre, as quoted by local media.
Denmark's Defence Command has released footage of the leaks which shows bubbles at the surface of the Baltic Sea near the island.

Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by GardenOfGod(m): 10:15am On Sep 28, 2022
It's politics... Dirty game indeed and Putin falls into the snare big time.

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Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by bn365: 10:17am On Sep 28, 2022
Keep Russia out, Bring the US in, Put Germany down

GardenOfGod:
It's politics

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Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by BloomingDale(f): 10:23am On Sep 28, 2022
Now most of the manufacturing companies from Europe will be moving to the US. Europe just got played by America.

I made a prediction sometime last year that NATO will team up with Russia and China to fight America, some people thought I was joking.

Let's be watching as America keeps playing them. Pounds and Euros getting weaker while the dollar keeps getting stronger

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Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by bn365: 11:39am On Sep 28, 2022
Usually, when the US commits a false flag, they come out right away - ''Russia did it, Asad did it, Saddam did it''
Something is off, I'm thinking some EU members didn't get the memo ahead of time or are probably not happy


BloomingDale:
Now most of the manufacturing companies from Europe will be moving to the US. Europe just got played by America.

I made a prediction sometime last year that NATO will team up with Russia and China to fight America, some people thought I was joking.

Let's be watching as America keeps playing them. Pounds and Euros getting weaker while the dollar keeps getting stronger

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Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by gambojimeta: 1:59pm On Sep 28, 2022
BloomingDale:
Now most of the manufacturing companies from Europe will be moving to the US. Europe just got played by America.

I made a prediction sometime last year that NATO will team up with Russia and China to fight America, some people thought I was joking.

Let's be watching as America keeps playing them. Pounds and Euros getting weaker while the dollar keeps getting stronger
Confused.com

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Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by rottennaija(m): 2:39pm On Sep 28, 2022
GardenOfGod:
It's politics... Dirty game indeed and Putin falls into the snare big time.

It was a situation of damn if you do and damn if you don't. He had a choice to make. Stop Ukraine Nazis from killing ethic Russians, stop NATO incursion into Ukraine and lose his EU markets
or
allow NATO into Ukraine (with less than 2mins of missile response time to Moscow), allow the genocide of ethic Russians in Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson, Kharkov.

But in any case, even if he had allowed the second option (which would make him weak and certainly will lose support from Russians), he would still lose the EU markets and all the investments because the US is after the dismemberment of Russia.

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Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by rottennaija(m): 2:46pm On Sep 28, 2022
BloomingDale:
Now most of the manufacturing companies from Europe will be moving to the US. Europe just got played by America.

I made a prediction sometime last year that NATO will team up with Russia and China to fight America, some people thought I was joking.

Let's be watching as America keeps playing them. Pounds and Euros getting weaker while the dollar keeps getting stronger

They wouldn't. Cost of manufacturing in US is very high. It's never going to be profitable. I see most coming to Africa and Asian

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Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by caye(m): 2:49pm On Sep 28, 2022
rottennaija:


It was a situation of damn if you do and damn if you don't. He had a choice to make. Stop Ukraine Nazis from killing ethic Russians, stop NATO incursion into Ukraine and lose his EU markets
or
allow NATO into Ukraine (with less than 2mins of missile response time to Moscow), allow the genocide of ethic Russians in Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson, Kharkov.

But in any case, even if he had allowed the second option (which would make him wick and certainly will lose support from Russians), he would still lose the EU markets and all the investments because the US is after the dismemberment of Russia.


Since they are now bombing critical infrastructure, let the Europeans start reading 19th century Boy's Scout books :
-how to make a fire
- how to use wood and charcoal
- how to use horse and carriage


They are all in for a very rough ride this year.

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Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by caye(m): 2:50pm On Sep 28, 2022
rottennaija:


They wouldn't. Cost of manufacturing in US is very high. It's never going to be profitable. I see most coming to Africa and Asian

What about Latin America and Southern America in general?
Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by rottennaija(m): 2:51pm On Sep 28, 2022
caye:



Since they are now bombing critical infrastructure, let the Europeans start reading 19th century Boy's Scout books :
-how to make a fire
- how to use wood and charcoal
- how to use horse and carriage


They are all in for a very rough ride this year.

The next 3 years is going to be very difficult in EU
Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by rottennaija(m): 2:52pm On Sep 28, 2022
caye:


What about Latin America and Southern America in general?
Possible but infrastructure like electricity, roads and rails is crucial
Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by DannyFX2638: 3:37pm On Sep 28, 2022
caye:


What about Latin America and Southern America in general?
Americans don't want it's neighbors to grow!!..
Anything that would make Mexico big and mighty , They might one day come back for Texas and California

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Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by ken6488(m): 4:02pm On Sep 28, 2022
DannyFX2638:
Americans don't want it's neighbors to grow!!..
Anything that would make Mexico big and mighty , They might one day come back for Texas and California
Exactly

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Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by BloomingDale(f): 4:58pm On Sep 28, 2022
rottennaija:


They wouldn't. Cost of manufacturing in US is very high. It's never going to be profitable. I see most coming to Africa and Asian

The west will never bring their manufacturing to Africa. Maybe Asia. Africa will be their last option. They want Africa underdeveloped so they can exploit us for our resources.

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Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by bn365: 5:16pm On Sep 28, 2022
Very condescending comment from Biden about investing in Africa.


BloomingDale:


The west will never bring their manufacturing to Africa. Maybe Asia. Africa will be their last option. They want Africa underdeveloped so they can exploit us for our resources.

Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by rottennaija(m): 5:58pm On Sep 28, 2022
BloomingDale:


The west will never bring their manufacturing to Africa. Maybe Asia. Africa will be their last option. They want Africa underdeveloped so they can exploit us for our resources.
Absolutely
Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by Nobody: 8:20am On Sep 29, 2022
Nord stream was definitely blown up!

Europe will be forced to seek alternatives!

At this point, No amendments or negotiation can go through. Nord is dead!

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Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by joyandfaith: 8:47am On Sep 29, 2022
BloomingDale:
Now most of the manufacturing companies from Europe will be moving to the US. Europe just got played by America.

I made a prediction sometime last year that NATO[b] will team up with Russia and China t[/b]o fight America, some people thought I was joking.

Let's be watching as America keeps playing them. Pounds and Euros getting weaker while the dollar keeps getting stronger

Hahaha. What is NATO? Anti-Americans are slowpoke
Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by BloomingDale(f): 8:49am On Sep 29, 2022
joyandfaith:


Hahaha. What is NATO? Anti-Americans are slowpoke

NATO without America. tongue tongue
Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by seunny4lif(m): 8:51am On Sep 29, 2022
CoronaVirusRelo:
Nord stream was definitely blown up!

Europe will be forced to seek alternatives!

At this point, No amendments or negotiation can go through. Nord is dead!

NS1 and 2 will be fix by German because now it shows that EU especially Germany, Austria and France need those Russia gas.
Unless they want unrest in Germany.
Even so called pro Ukraine are blaming USA, Poland and Ukraine for the damage.
German manufacturing industries need cheap Russia gas and that’s the reason the 2 former Schroder and Merkel travelled and get a deal from Putin to build both pipelines.
Yesterday, Russia stop gas flow through Ukraine because Ukraine refused to pay for the agreement they had with Russia.
Spain, Finland are now the of the biggest importer of Russia LNG.

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Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by joyandfaith: 8:54am On Sep 29, 2022
BloomingDale:


The west will never bring their manufacturing to Africa. Maybe Asia. Africa will be their last option. They want Africa underdeveloped so they can exploit us for our resources.

If Africa wakes up, investment can come to Africa. Our leaders are confused. They would burrow from west, Russia and China. They would strike deal deals with all sorts of global partners. No political ideas. No goals. We have to properly align to a side. We have to sort out issue of corruption. Paris club wouldn't cancel our debts if we keep burrowing from their enemies.
We are not ready for development.
Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by joyandfaith: 8:55am On Sep 29, 2022
BloomingDale:


NATO without America. tongue tongue

No NATO without USA.
Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by seunny4lif(m): 9:14am On Sep 29, 2022
joyandfaith:


If Africa wakes up, investment can come to Africa. Our leaders are confused. They would burrow from west, Russia and China. They would strike deal deals with all sorts of global partners. No political ideas. No goals. We have to properly align to a side. We have to sort out issue of corruption. Paris club wouldn't cancel our debts if we keep burrowing from their enemies.
We are not ready for development.
Madam, you are wicked oooh grin

How can you put development and Africa Black leaders together, Haba grin
I have never see a full developed black Africans nation, the only good Africa nations are the one developed by either white or Arab Africans
I remembered when some of our lecturers said they did their PhD in Russia, USA and UK etc and talked about how good those countries system worked blabla, but yet same lectures were treating us like shit.
They told us, how you can walk to the lecturers over there and talk to them, at anytime.
We black people are generally wicked, we like to oppress the poor and mass

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Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by bn365: 9:14am On Sep 29, 2022
I want to share your sentiment about Germany et al doing a u-turn BUT!
You are more reasonable than these so-called leaders
These people in power don't care about their people. Right now, protesters are demanding Nordstream 2
AND, the US will make sure they[EU] never return back to doing business with Russia
CHECK out how the US took over soccer from the back door, buying up football clubs and getting nations to put rainbow flags on jerseys etc


seunny4lif:

NS1 and 2 will be fix by German because now it shows that EU especially Germany, Austria and France need those Russia gas.
Unless they want unrest in Germany.
Even so called pro Ukraine are blaming USA, Poland and Ukraine for the damage.
German manufacturing industries need cheap Russia gas and that’s the reason the 2 former Schroder and Merkel travelled and get a deal from Putin to build both pipelines.
Yesterday, Russia stop gas flow through Ukraine because Ukraine refused to pay for the agreement they had with Russia.
Spain, Finland are now the of the biggest importer of Russia LNG.
Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by Nobody: 9:16am On Sep 29, 2022
seunny4lif:

NS1 and 2 will be fix by German because now it shows that EU especially Germany, Austria and France need those Russia gas.
Unless they want unrest in Germany.
Even so called pro Ukraine are blaming USA, Poland and Ukraine for the damage.
German manufacturing industries need cheap Russia gas and that’s the reason the 2 former Schroder and Merkel travelled and get a deal from Putin to build both pipelines.
Yesterday, Russia stop gas flow through Ukraine because Ukraine refused to pay for the agreement they had with Russia.
Spain, Finland are now the of the biggest importer of Russia LNG.


So you feel the US individually blew up that pipeline? It definitely would have consulted with NATO.

Europe is already seeking for alternatives in multiple nations and would not bank on Russia anymore to avoid future occurrence, and even if Nord stream will be fixed, it won’t be by Germany or any nation in Europe. They buy and can always take their money anywhere.

It’s a norm that initiation of alternatives can be difficult and bring pains, it will gradually normalize over time.

Russia is not a Nation Europe can bank on. LNG is abundant all over the world and best logistics can get them the gas they need.

Even Nigeria can power Europe if the logistics are in place.
Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by joyandfaith: 9:18am On Sep 29, 2022
seunny4lif:

Madam Sir, you are wicked oooh grin

How can you put development and Africa Black leaders together, Haba grin
I have never see a full developed black Africans nation, the only good Africa nations are the one developed by either white or Arab Africans
I remembered when some of our lecturers said they did their PhD in Russia, USA and UK etc and talked about how good those countries system worked blabla, but yet same lectures were treating us like shit.
They told us, how you can walk to the lecturers over there and talk to them, at anytime.
We black people are generally wicked, we like to oppress the poor and mass
Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by bn365: 9:20am On Sep 29, 2022
You're the ''slowpoke'' here
Everybody can see the dastard acts of the US and aren't afraid to call it out but to you, that's ''anti-Americans''
It's going to take you forever to catch up.




joyandfaith:


Hahaha. What is NATO? Anti-Americans are slowpoke
Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by joyandfaith: 9:29am On Sep 29, 2022
bn365:
You're the ''slowpoke'' here
Everybody can see the dastard acts of the US and aren't afraid to call it out but to you, that's ''anti-Americans''
It's going to take you forever to catch up.





Are u ok? What is meaning of NATO and Russia with China shouid fight USA?. Block head!!!!

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Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by seunny4lif(m): 9:36am On Sep 29, 2022
When did USA started considering other NATO members maybe apart from UK for consultation grin
USA bugged their nato allies leaders phones.
USA doesn’t care about anyone apart from USA.
NATO members are vassal states of USA just like any world power nations behave from British empire to Russia empire to now USA empire.


I bet you, know the meaning of cheap because as a Nigerian, it will be a crime not to know the meaning of that word no matter who you are.
Yes, there are gases everywhere but the word cheap made Russia gas and oil stand out, that even UAE and Saudi, which are one of the world biggest producers and suppliers are buying Russia oil and LNG to refined and sell to EU at X5.
Hungary PM, Slovakia and even Bulgaria already said it.
For example, Azeri and Turkey have massive good relationship for Turkey to replace Russia gas but it’s expensive even when Azeri gave Turkey at massive discount, Turkey president still have to travelled to Russia because Russia gas and oil are the cheapest in the world to get.
It takes Russia from production to export around €20 for oil compare to next cheapest producer Saudi which produces at €10 but to export costed around €55 to €70
CoronaVirusRelo:



So you feel the US individually blew up that pipeline? It definitely would have consulted with NATO.

Europe is already seeking for alternatives in multiple nations and would not bank on Russia anymore to avoid future occurrence, and even if Nord stream will be fixed, it won’t be by Germany or any nation in Europe. They buy and can always take their money anywhere.

It’s a norm that initiation of alternatives can be difficult and bring pains, it will gradually normalize over time.

Russia is not a Nation Europe can bank on. LNG is abundant all over the world and best logistics can get them the gas they need.

Even Nigeria can power Europe if the logistics are in place.

Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by gambojimeta: 10:43am On Sep 29, 2022
CoronaVirusRelo:



So you feel the US individually blew up that pipeline? It definitely would have consulted with NATO.

Europe is already seeking for alternatives in multiple nations and would not bank on Russia anymore to avoid future occurrence, and even if Nord stream will be fixed, it won’t be by Germany or any nation in Europe. They buy and can always take their money anywhere.

It’s a norm that initiation of alternatives can be difficult and bring pains, it will gradually normalize over time.

Russia is not a Nation Europe can bank on. LNG is abundant all over the world and best logistics can get them the gas they need.

Even Nigeria can power Europe if the logistics are in place.


Recent events have significantly damaged the overall prospects of the gas trade. Once the conflict is over, Russia will still be able to offer gas at very low prices, but Europe, in all likelihood, will not only not want to buy it then; it will simply not be able to. Russia has lost the European market.

Shutting the NS1 even before the sabotage marks the point of no return.

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Re: US Accused Of Sabotaging Nordstream 1 And 2 - by Nobody: 10:27pm On Sep 29, 2022
seunny4lif:
When did USA started considering other NATO members maybe apart from UK for consultation grin
USA bugged their nato allies leaders phones.
USA doesn’t care about anyone apart from USA.
NATO members are vassal states of USA just like any world power nations behave from British empire to Russia empire to now USA empire.


I bet you, know the meaning of cheap because as a Nigerian, it will be a crime not to know the meaning of that word no matter who you are.
Yes, there are gases everywhere but the word cheap made Russia gas and oil stand out, that even UAE and Saudi, which are one of the world biggest producers and suppliers are buying Russia oil and LNG to refined and sell to EU at X5.
Hungary PM, Slovakia and even Bulgaria already said it.
For example, Azeri and Turkey have massive good relationship for Turkey to replace Russia gas but it’s expensive even when Azeri gave Turkey at massive discount, Turkey president still have to travelled to Russia because Russia gas and oil are the cheapest in the world to get.
It takes Russia from production to export around €20 for oil compare to next cheapest producer Saudi which produces at €10 but to export costed around €55 to €70


Their are always alternatives. Russia does not have monopoly to gas. Good trade deals can also come up that will favour both consumers and producers. With the whole cheap gas you talking about, Nigeria still exports to Europe.

Many options are on the table to bypass Russian Gas. Europe would be so smart enough to know that decency on Russian gas is not safe and instances can always re-occur.

If the war ends, Europe will still continue to seek and enhance alternatives

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