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johnjunior39:
My guy did not tag me chai but I will drop my 2 cent.

I will go with Tierney. Zin is a lot more adventurous and not too disciplined . watch the Man U match again.

Tierney is better for a big game and is well disciplined

Wow you will blame zinny against man u

Jodera:
Tierney or Zinchenko for NLD?

With both fit to play against Spurs, who do you guys prefer to start.

My Opinion: I'll prefer Tierney to start over Zinchenko. Tierney is a good defender and a better defender than Zinchenko. He's not also bad going forward have we've seen couple of times against big teams. Moreover, Spurs are always deadly on the counter and most of their games this season doesn't involve Midfield play, so Zinchenko wouldn't be so needed to give us that Midfield advantage.
Son, Kane and kuluveski/Richarlison are known for pace, counter and getting in behind. Who better to stop any of those 3 than for Tierney on the left flank?

So what's your take guys, who would you prefer?
Blueraydick, Iamoyindamola, Roland17, Spy360, Mostob, ObaIgwe1, DaveP, Akinbahm, Jencejyde.

For me, it would depend on the mentality employed by Arteta going into the game. Conte is very very discipline, rigid and very rarely changes his tactics. He favors the back 3 and relies heavily on physical football and the counter. This is why he is fielding physical specimens like Kulu, Perisic, Richalison, Hoijberg and Kane all at the same time.

If Arteta is looking for us to attack and stay on top of Spuds then Zinny because he technically superior with the ball, has better passing including range and is able to invert into the middle to add more numbers.

However, if Arteta is going into the game with a cautious mentality; allowing Spuds to dictate play, then Tierney. Tierney has better positioning, discipline and recovery.

daveP:
Guy, no ifs here, make we tok true. Yasu should start imo. It will even amplify Saka threat better. We need Saka firing till he gets subbed off or match ends. Conte is not coming to joke, make we tok true. If he sees any weakness, he will exploit it faster than Arteta can.

Lol, one thing you should notice with Arteta is that "if it's not broken, don't fix it"

Almost everyone prefers Tomi to White but since Arteta Is using White over Tomi and White have been bringing up decent performances, then it'll be long before we'll see Tomi except injury happens

daveP:
That was actually a blocked shot. He saw the path to him already blocked so he had only a shot to take and he still delayed at that. Whatever he wants to do, he should just do it quicker. That's my issue. I believe we'll enjoy the game sha

Lol, well I believe he'll learn from that.

Amongst all our forwards, he's the one I believe have the best decision making

johnjunior39:
My guy did not tag me chai but I will drop my 2 cent.

I will go with Tierney. Zin is a lot more adventurous and not too disciplined . watch the Man U match again.

Tierney is better for a big game and is well disciplined

Chai... No vex boss, I been forget your moniker. No vex abegg


As for the bolded, it's exactly my thoughts. Tierney for big games and sharp attackers while Zinchenko for midtable to small teams where we can easily subdue them

Roland17:
For me, it would depend on the mentality employed by Arteta going into the game. Conte is very very discipline, rigid and very rarely changes his tactics. He favors the back 3 and relies heavily on physical football and the counter. This is why he is fielding physical specimens like Kulu, Perisic, Richalison, Hoijberg and Kane all at the same time.

If Arteta is looking for us to attack and stay on top of Spuds then Zinny because he technically superior with the ball, has better passing including range and is able to invert into the middle to add more numbers.

However, if Arteta is going into the game with a cautious mentality; allowing Spuds to dictate play, then Tierney. Tierney has better positioning, discipline and recovery.

I don't think Arteta will go with a cautious mentality sha or even allow spuds to dictate play. Well, it's good we've good headache like this

Jodera:
Hmmm...
Well, I'll start watching more closely then

While he's not a bad defender, I feel more secure and comfortable with Tierney than Zinchenko whenever opposition attacks us.

Tierney performance during Aston Villa and Brentford was outstanding. And his usual cross spamming have reduced this season

Same here too. I'm more comfortable with Tierney than Zinchenko. Tierney is faster and better defensively but his ball holding is poor.

Jodera:
Tierney or Zinchenko for NLD?

With both fit to play against Spurs, who do you guys prefer to start.

My Opinion: I'll prefer Tierney to start over Zinchenko. Tierney is a good defender and a better defender than Zinchenko. He's not also bad going forward have we've seen couple of times against big teams. Moreover, Spurs are always deadly on the counter and most of their games this season doesn't involve Midfield play, so Zinchenko wouldn't be so needed to give us that Midfield advantage.
Son, Kane and kuluveski/Richarlison are known for pace, counter and getting in behind. Who better to stop any of those 3 than for Tierney on the left flank?

So what's your take guys, who would you prefer?
Blueraydick, Iamoyindamola, Roland17, Spy360, Mostob, ObaIgwe1, DaveP, Akinbahm, Jencejyde.

I'd go with Zinchenko even though Tierney seems better defensively. Spurs is a counter attack team and I think they look susceptible when chasing the ball so we need to hold the ball. Zinchenko will also be a plus during our build up.

Jodera:
Lol, if White can hold Zaha, I believe it's a done deal for Arteta to start White to hold Son

I also prefer Tomi. Apart from both being Asian, White might be too aggressive for Son which may earn him unnecessary yellow card(s) and fks. Tomi understand Saka better and helps more in build up.

I know it might look strange but I will start Vieira ahead of Ode on Saturday if I were Arteta.

iamoyindamola:
Wow you will blame zinny against man u

maybe he meant Leceister match.

mostob:
Same here too. I'm more comfortable with Tierney than Zinchenko. Tierney is faster and better defensively but his ball holding is poor.

To be honest, I don't think he's poor the way we're making it sound. Granted, Zinchenko is more technical than him but Tierney isn't poor in ball holding. I'll just say he's a different variety to Zinchenko

mostob:
I'd go with Zinchenko even though Tierney seems better defensively. Spurs is a counter attack team and I think they look susceptible when chasing the ball so we need to hold the ball. Zinchenko will also be a plus during our build up.

Hmmm... Very well then

Jodera:
Tierney or Zinchenko for NLD?

With both fit to play against Spurs, who do you guys prefer to start.

My Opinion: I'll prefer Tierney to start over Zinchenko. Tierney is a good defender and a better defender than Zinchenko. He's not also bad going forward have we've seen couple of times against big teams. Moreover, Spurs are always deadly on the counter and most of their games this season doesn't involve Midfield play, so Zinchenko wouldn't be so needed to give us that Midfield advantage.
Son, Kane and kuluveski/Richarlison are known for pace, counter and getting in behind. Who better to stop any of those 3 than for Tierney on the left flank?

So what's your take guys, who would you prefer?
Blueraydick, Iamoyindamola, Roland17, Spy360, Mostob, ObaIgwe1, DaveP, Akinbahm, Jencejyde.

I would rather Zinchenko starts. They are both good defenders in their own right, but I prefer Zinchenko cos of the attack threat he poses to the opposition defence when we go forward.....

The man utd game that some fans might want to hold against Zinchenko, it was our entire defence line that was caught sleeping and not just Zinchenko alone..... Even our new found love ; Saliba was caught sleeping on the bicycle.

The last match Tierney played, he was so predictable going forward; he just wants to spam cross into the box and quickly track back if the opposition gains the ball.

I hope we will have Martinelli tracking back when we are not with the ball; that way we can see the best in Zinchenko and not blame him for what is not his fault ( Martinelli not tracking Anthony was the reason we conceded the first goal vs Man utd). I will gladly choose Zinchenko's ball playing ability to Tierney's spamming crosses jare

mostob:
I also prefer Tomi. Apart from both being Asian, White might be too aggressive for Son which may earn him unnecessary yellow card(s) and fks. Tomi understand Saka better and helps more in build up.

Nah, White isn't aggressive like that. I think defensively, White is good but his going forward isn't that elite like Tomi. I will prefer Tomi to him 24/7 but it's more for his attacking input than defensive cos White is very good defensively too like Tomi

BlueRayDick:
I would rather Zinchenko starts. They are both good defenders in their own right, but I prefer Zinchenko cos of the attack threat he poses to the opposition defence when we go forward.....

The man utd game that some fans might want to hold against Zinchenko, it was our entire defence line that was caught sleeping and not just Zinchenko alone..... Even our new found love ; Saliba was caught sleeping on the bicycle.

The last match Tierney played, he was so predictable going forward; he just wants to spam cross into the box and quickly track back if the opposition gains the ball.

I hope we will have Martinelli tracking back when we are not with the ball; that way we can see the best in Zinchenko and not blame him for what is not his fault ( Martinelli not tracking Anthony was the reason we conceded the first goal vs Man utd). I will gladly choose Zinchenko's ball playing ability to Tierney's spamming crosses jare

Very well said.
Hopefully, we'll be more compact on Saturday and also I'm sure the defence will be more secure with Partey screening them

But the bolded, did he really spam any cross into the box against Brentford? I don't remember him doing any cross tho and he was more technical than normal

Jodera:
Very well said.
Hopefully, we'll be more compact on Saturday and also I'm sure the defence will be more secure with Partey screening them

But the bolded, did he really spam any cross into the box against Brentford? I don't remember him doing any cross tho and he was more technical than normal

He wanted to, but always ends up passing back to midfield when he noticed they've blocked his passing route. We need him to be unpredictable; they should know he's capable of dribbling past them or delivering a good cross, they shouldn't already figure him out before he even gets the ball at his feet.

BlueRayDick:
He wanted to, but always ends up passing back to midfield when he noticed they've blocked his passing route. We need him to be unpredictable; they should know he's capable of dribbling past them or delivering a good cross, they shouldn't already figure him out before he even gets the ball at his feet.

Okay... I understand

mostob:
I know it might look strange but I will start Vieira ahead of Ode on Saturday if I were Arteta.

Lol, it's really strange like you said

Jodera:
Lol, hopefully you no go run sha

Of course, I won’t

iamoyindamola:
Wow you will blame zinny against man u

Blame?


Not talking about blame here but you know how too attacking minded he is

Jodera:
Lol, it's really strange like you said

One, Ode doesn't really perform in big stages.
Two, Vieira is kinder sharper and more instinctive. His shots might come handy too.

Just saying

Jodera:
To be honest, I don't think he's poor the way we're making it sound. Granted, Zinchenko is more technical than him but Tierney isn't poor in ball holding. I'll just say he's a different variety to Zinchenko

I agree.
But by being poor all Tierney does is backpass or Sprint to the byeline and deliver his trademark cross
At least, look front, look side too....

mostob:
One, Ode doesn't really perform in big stages.
Two, Vieira is kinder sharper and more instinctive. His shots might come handy too.

Just saying

I understand but we need to look at the human aspects too and that's what I feel you're neglecting.

Let's assume you're Arteta,

1..What justification do you have to drop your captain?
2.. If you can't trust your captain to start one of the club's biggest match, why make him captain of your team?

mostob:
I agree.
But by being poor all Tierney does is backpass or Sprint to the byeline and deliver his trademark cross
At least, look front, look side too....

Lol, the good news is that we have two good LBs. I'll be glad with anyone of the two that steps feet on Saturday

Jodera:
Tierney or Zinchenko for NLD?

With both fit to play against Spurs, who do you guys prefer to start.

My Opinion: I'll prefer Tierney to start over Zinchenko. Tierney is a good defender and a better defender than Zinchenko. He's not also bad going forward have we've seen couple of times against big teams. Moreover, Spurs are always deadly on the counter and most of their games this season doesn't involve Midfield play, so Zinchenko wouldn't be so needed to give us that Midfield advantage.
Son, Kane and kuluveski/Richarlison are known for pace, counter and getting in behind. Who better to stop any of those 3 than for Tierney on the left flank?

So what's your take guys, who would you prefer?
Blueraydick, Iamoyindamola, Roland17, Spy360, Mostob, ObaIgwe1, DaveP, Akinbahm, Jencejyde.

Ordinarily I would have preferred Tierney when facing the big teams, like others wrote, he is more disciplined and will help the defense more... but with Partey fit and available I won't worry too much about our back. The best way to win this Spurs team is to dominate the match and press higher. And this is why I will go with Zinchenko.

If we can press higher up and play most of the match in Spurs half, we stand better chance of winning. If we play like we did against Brentford, we will shut down most of of Spurs front 3 threats and Zinchenko will do a better job on that. When we are 2 goals up in 60mins, Tierney can come in to close the Match.

BlueRayDick:
I would rather Zinchenko starts. They are both good defenders in their own right, but I prefer Zinchenko cos of the attack threat he poses to the opposition defence when we go forward.....

The man utd game that some fans might want to hold against Zinchenko, it was our entire defence line that was caught sleeping and not just Zinchenko alone..... Even our new found love ; Saliba was caught sleeping on the bicycle.

The last match Tierney played, he was so predictable going forward; he just wants to spam cross into the box and quickly track back if the opposition gains the ball.

I hope we will have Martinelli tracking back when we are not with the ball; that way we can see the best in Zinchenko and not blame him for what is not his fault ( Martinelli not tracking Anthony was the reason we conceded the first goal vs Man utd). I will gladly choose Zinchenko's ball playing ability to Tierney's spamming crosses jare

Why are you guys afraid of blaming gabu the main culprit of that goal instead of pinning blame around
He failed to hold his line and went to tackle which he still failed to get
Like obaigwe posted gabu is our weak link in that defense

iamoyindamola:
Why are you guys afraid of blaming gabu the main culprit of that goal instead of pinning blame around
He failed to hold his line and went to tackle which he still failed to get
Like obaigwe posted gabu is our weak link in that defense

How else do u want me to spell it out again?I said the whole defense was caught sleeping, is Gabriel not part of the defense?

I only mentioned Saliba because we've somehow believed with his introduction we are well covered at the back forgetting that one is take can do us serious damage like the second and third goal against man utd. I'm sure everyone has learnt their lessons including the coach from that man utd match and that unnecessary high line that led to those counter attack goals won't happen going forward

BlueRayDick:
How else do u want me to spell it out again?I said the whole defense was caught sleeping, is Gabriel not part of the defense?

I only mentioned Saliba because we've somehow believed with his introduction we are well covered at the back forgetting that one is take can do us serious damage like the second and third goal against man utd. I'm sure everyone has learnt their lessons including the coach from that man utd match and that unnecessary high line that led to those counter attack goals won't happen going forward

Bros wé are talking about the first goal
It's entirely on gabu and manganese(ABI what's that his surname)
He went for tackle he couldn't win thereby exposing the defence line
If he had stayed Bruno will pass to the wing or take his chances with outside shot
I hope we are counting the number of errors he's making and anytime he do mistake we are quick to call it on entire defense

Arteta should show the boys our last match against spuds as that was the reason we didn't go for UCL IMO
He should use that as motivation for them cos tomorrow look somehow to me

Jodera:
Tierney or Zinchenko for NLD?

With both fit to play against Spurs, who do you guys prefer to start.

My Opinion: I'll prefer Tierney to start over Zinchenko. Tierney is a good defender and a better defender than Zinchenko. He's not also bad going forward have we've seen couple of times against big teams. Moreover, Spurs are always deadly on the counter and most of their games this season doesn't involve Midfield play, so Zinchenko wouldn't be so needed to give us that Midfield advantage.
Son, Kane and kuluveski/Richarlison are known for pace, counter and getting in behind. Who better to stop any of those 3 than for Tierney on the left flank?

So what's your take guys, who would you prefer?
Blueraydick, Iamoyindamola, Roland17, Spy360, Mostob, ObaIgwe1, DaveP, Akinbahm, Jencejyde.

There's a reason why Arteta signed Zinchenko and it's for games like this. Zinny is more technical and tactically flexible than Tierney which means more and better options during different phases of transitions.

Especially with Partey available, we can easily dominate the midfield with both of them while Xhaka pushes up. This will allow the other defenders forming a back three to focus on defending.

Zinny's presence in the trio during attacking phase will also allow Partey to be more creative...

........... Odegaard...........
Xhaka Zinchenko Partey

Martinelli also prefers Zinchenko as we have seen this season. Marti needs space to isolate his man one on one. Tierney wants to run accross the opponent's backline for a cut back whereas Martinelli should be doing that with Xhaka anchoring for him.

The defensive attribute you spoke of for Tierney is just a minute difference. In a back three it's Gabriel who will be doing the defensive work not Zinchenko. Also during defending phase, Xhaka or Martinelli falls back to assist him. So it's very negligible difference in terms of what it adds to the team.

Zinchenko all the way.

iamoyindamola:
Arteta should show the boys our last match against spuds as that was the reason we didn't go for UCL IMO
He should use that as motivation for them cos tomorrow look somehow to me

I believe he'll use that has motivation. Coupled with the fact that it's our home.

Also, Spuds will want to be deadly seeing that we would come for revenge. Only God knows what's going on in Conte's mind.

Tomorrow will be a very very good matchup!!