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Vladimir Putin’s 20-Year March To War In Ukraine And How The West Mishandled It / Russia-Ukraine Crisis: "Putin Cannot Remain In Power" - President Biden / Marina Ovsyannikova, Russian Anti-War Protester Interrupts News On State TV (2) (3) (4)

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Re: Gov. by Uprightness100(m): 4:12pm On Sep 30, 2022
TASS news agency quotes Zelensky as saying that Kiev is ready to return to the negotiating table - but not with Vladimir Putin, but with another Russian president
Re: Gov. by baralatie(m): 4:13pm On Sep 30, 2022
gambojimeta:

You keep contradicting yourself. I guess Germany is not part of NATO.
grin
Re: Gov. by baralatie(m): 4:13pm On Sep 30, 2022
Uprightness100:
TASS news agency quotes Zelensky as saying that Kiev is ready to return to the negotiating table - but not with Vladimir Putin, but with another Russian president
Zelensky dey maent
Re: Gov. by gambojimeta: 4:14pm On Sep 30, 2022
feedthenation:


---Putin is not happy---and currently playing the script to annex old regions (now independently nations) back into Russia to recreate the old USSR---

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/03/03/putin-says-he-wishes-he-could-change-the-collapse-of-the-soviet-union-many-russians-agree/

Exactly. I am just watching the speech and not even read reports yet. He did mention he is not interested in getting the USSR back but his speech says otherwise.

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Re: Gov. by RepoMan007: 4:14pm On Sep 30, 2022
Uprightness100:
Putin:
"We will remember all those who died for the sake of speaking their native language."
Native language he says but his assl1ckers here says they are doing NATO and Kosovo.

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Re: Gov. by Uprightness100(m): 4:15pm On Sep 30, 2022
Reports just coming in says Israel-Lebanon maritime border dispute agreement has been reached

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Re: Gov. by RepoMan007: 4:18pm On Sep 30, 2022
Uprightness100:
Putin:
[b]Many people consider themselves part of Russia - even in their language. After all, for so many years, they lived in one administration
The mad man still ranting about language. Since when has language overridden sovereignty of nations?
This man has been blinded by something so dark I cannot fully explain.

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Re: Gov. by timay1: 4:19pm On Sep 30, 2022
baralatie:

Because Germany under Hitler lead the WW2

And they lost, which was good. But at some point, US will have to let off the chokehold on both Germany and Japan, because morally, it's wrong.

99.9% of people that fought that war in Hitler's generation are long dead and buried.

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Re: Gov. by BentizilL: 4:19pm On Sep 30, 2022
Russia will achieve it aim, it's left for the West to see the reality on ground... tongue

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Re: Gov. by RepoMan007: 4:20pm On Sep 30, 2022
Uprightness100:
Putin:
We call on the government in Kyiv to immediately stop the fire and all combat operations. The war that it waged back in 2014 and return to the negotiating table. We are ready for this - we have said this several times. But we will not talk about the choice of Lugansk, Donetsk, Zaporozhye and Kherson The choice has already been made, and Russia will not betray them."
I thought the mad man said the govt in kyiv was illegitimate one. Idiot.
Re: Gov. by baralatie(m): 4:20pm On Sep 30, 2022
timay1:


And they lost, which was good. But at some point, US will have to let off the chokehold on both Germany and Japan, because morally, it's wrong.

99.9% of people that fought that war in Hitler's generation are long dead and buried.

But the ideology is still here
Re: Gov. by timay1: 4:21pm On Sep 30, 2022
RepoMan007:
Native language he says but his assl1ckers here says they are doing NATO and Kosovo.

Motive might be different, but method is the same. That is, NATO with Kosovo and Russia with Donbass.

But the common factor was that both were wrong and violated international laws to achieve their motives and objectives.

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Re: Gov. by RepoMan007: 4:21pm On Sep 30, 2022
baralatie:

He shouldn't have used this as part of his speech
undecided
His mental issues are deep. He is so used to imposing his opinions as Russia's that he forgot to seek public opinion before speaking. Animal he is.

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Re: Gov. by feedthenation(m): 4:23pm On Sep 30, 2022
---Joe Biden's statement---

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Re: Gov. by baralatie(m): 4:24pm On Sep 30, 2022
So zelensky application to NATO is dead on arrival again
Re: Gov. by RepoMan007: 4:24pm On Sep 30, 2022
Uprightness100:
Contrary to estimates, Putin does not threaten to escalate the fighting against Kyiv, but calls for an end to "the war that Ukraine started in 2014". He calls for a return to the negotiating table, but makes it clear that the four annexed territories will remain Russia's forever.

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The idiot has only nukes and gas. Asides these, he is cornered. He would have loved to take the whole of Ukraine..

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Re: Gov. by timay1: 4:25pm On Sep 30, 2022
baralatie:

But the ideology is still here

Which ideology if I may ask.?

The ideology of world domination, which USA is currently on the path?

The difference between WW2 Germany and this new generation USA is just the methodology in achieving the goal. Germany wanted fast result, and that can only be achieved by military brute force, USA is doing it systematically , which takes longer and doesn't involve mass murdering on a larger scale over a short period, but there's is over a longer period grin

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Re: Gov. by baralatie(m): 4:28pm On Sep 30, 2022
timay1:


Which ideology if I may ask.?

The ideology of world domination, which USA is currently on the path?

The difference between WW2 Germany and this new generation USA is just the methodology in achieving the goal. Germany wanted fast result, and that can only be achieved by military brute force, USA is doing it systematically , which takes longer and doesn't involve mass murdering on a larger scale over a short period, but there's is over a longer period grin
The NAZi members are still there and is they are barred in Germany from getting into elections(I am not sure).
When there members were caught in the west they have a goal to get back into politics and then restoration of Nazi glory!
Just like for soviets soldiers want restoration of the ussR
Re: Gov. by RepoMan007: 4:32pm On Sep 30, 2022
baralatie:

That is what I am trying to see
Annexation by Russia does not say it has stopped the hostilities against ukraine
Ukraine has not said it has stopped hostilities against the 4 regions now under Russia federation!

So if Ukraine should strike what happens
War!
What happens next?


Ukraine should have stuck with minsk2 agreement
Putin is blinded by personal bias he commits error often.
He declared the annexed regions are part of Russia forever and ever. If he isn't the one controlling their opinion, how can he possible tell another generation in those areas will like to leave Russia same way one allegedly prefer to be part of it?

He made too many silly mistakes from 2014 till today's annexation announcement.

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Re: Gov. by saxywale2: 4:35pm On Sep 30, 2022
RepoMan007:
Putin is blinded by personal bias he commits error often.
He declared the annexed regions are part of Russia forever and ever. If he isn't the one controlling their opinion, how can he possible tell another generation in those areas will like to leave Russia same way one allegedly prefer to be part of it?

He made too many silly mistakes from 2014 till today's annexation announcement.
The man is a clown. A new government could always return those regions back to Ukraine. They are disputed regions and the disputes won't be going away anytime soon.

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Re: Gov. by Ibrahimcoomsie2: 4:36pm On Sep 30, 2022
Finland shuts border for Russian tourists.

The decision cuts off the last easily accessible route for Russians with Schengen tourist visas into Europe. Earlier this month, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, and Poland imposed entry restrictions for Russian citizens.

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Re: Gov. by RepoMan007: 4:37pm On Sep 30, 2022
Looking at the whole annexation announcement speech, I see a cornered and drowning fool with nukes and gas too proud to retreat, and may make a lot of innocent souls suffer for it.

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Re: Gov. by RepoMan007: 4:41pm On Sep 30, 2022
saxywale2:

The man is a clown. A new government could always return those regions back to Ukraine. They are disputed regions and the disputes won't be going away anytime soon.
Exactly. He is forming a cult of nations or should I say a nation of cults?
Telling the world those Ukrainian regions can come into Russia but cannot leave for any reason. That sounds like the occult. The door only opens from outside and no one leaves when it opens.

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Re: Gov. by emperorshaokahn(m): 4:45pm On Sep 30, 2022
RepoMan007:
Exactly. He is forming a cult of nations or should I say a nation of cults?
Telling the world those Ukrainian regions can come into Russia but cannot leave for any reason. That sounds like the occult. The door only opens from outside and no one leaves when it opens.
lol.the donbass is gone,forever. Anyway zelenski has thrown up a challange to nato, lets see if they accept it or chicken out as usual.

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Re: Gov. by RepoMan007: 4:53pm On Sep 30, 2022
emperorshaokahn:
lol.the donbass is gone,forever. Anyway zelenski has thrown up a challange to nato, lets see if they accept it or chicken out as usual.
Gone where? To a man who is about to die or a nation being deserted so fast, only top stooge too afraid of assassins stay behind?

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Re: Gov. by stanluiz(m): 4:59pm On Sep 30, 2022
Uprightness100:
JUST IN

U.S. announces "severe" new sanctions on hundreds of Russian officials and their family members.
lol. Sanctions cheesy

Sanctions don't work on Russia anymore cheesy

The west should try again!

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Re: Gov. by saxywale2: 5:02pm On Sep 30, 2022
Ibrahimcoomasie:
Ukrainian troops have likely nearly completed the encirclement of the Russian grouping in Lyman and cut critical ground lines of communication (GLOCS) that support Russian troops (estimated to be around 1000+) in the Drobysheve-Lyman area.

Video of some Russian soldiers captured in Lyman area two days ago
https://twitter.com/CaptainBlackSe1/status/1574778741875695618?t=Z2KWZoOudxhdYiG7RT_Dmg&s=19
This region is under DPR and fighting is still ongoing even after the ceremony to annex the DPR and co.

In other words, Ukraine is now attacking Russia according to Putin, but all he (Putin) can do is still to send those new recruits to the front.
Re: Gov. by saxywale2: 5:04pm On Sep 30, 2022
gambojimeta:
An unpopular opinion for peace to reign:

Let Russia have those regions. Any one who doesn't want to be part of the 4 regions should be allowed to return to Ukraine.

Accepts Ukraine's NATO application and EU application.

I am just watching the playback of the speech. In my opinion, It's mostly all about restoring the old glory of USSR. Putin's still angry Soviet broke into several pieces.

Ukraine's application is not going to be accepted. They are currently at war with another country.

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Re: Gov. by Uprightness100(m): 5:08pm On Sep 30, 2022
IDF commanders in the West Bank have been given the green light to use armed drones to carry out targeted killings of Palestinian terrorists, with the approval of Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Aviv Kohavi.
Re: Gov. by BentizilL: 5:15pm On Sep 30, 2022
Is NATO scared, I thought they'll come to Ukraine aid quickly.. grin
Na person wey no witness Syria go think say Russia dey joke.. tongue

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Re: Gov. by Ibrahimcoomsie2: 5:16pm On Sep 30, 2022
Russians called up to fight in Ukraine are buying up everything from camping gear to body armor, worried that President Putin's undersupplied army won’t be able to provide them with even the basics.
Re: Gov. by okeysoninv: 5:19pm On Sep 30, 2022
Russia will have to ask Ukraine to allow troops out of “Lyman cauldron” - advisor to Zelensky's office chief. demilitarization of Donbass just begin.

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