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atmy1:
Honestly, we can admit that Russia is losing grounds in Ukraine even though there is exxergeration on the western side. However, I am yet to determine whether these withdrawals are strategic moves or just plain mistakes because they are not consistent with Russia's current capabilities.

It is a good thing they withdrew their forces instead of risking losing them. But the big question is, will Russia be able to take back those lost territories?

The President of Russia signed Executive Order On Simplified Procedure for Granting Russian Citizenship to Foreign Nationals Who Have Signed a Contract to Serve in the Russian Armed Forces

According to the Executive Order, foreigners who have signed a contract for service in the Russian Armed Forces, other troops or military formations for at least one year, as well as those who are participating (participated) in combat operations in such units for at least six months and who have suffered an injury in the process that resulted in their discharge from military service, are entitled to apply for Russian citizenship under a simplified procedure.

Spouses, children and parents of these persons and close relatives of those who have died in combat are eligible for the simplified procedure for obtaining citizenship.

haaryobhami:
america run out of weapon? Which America . Same america that plans to send 16 HIMARS and plan to sponsor ukraine with )1.5billion per month. You people can keep lieing to urself

This is Bloomberg. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-28/us-is-sending-more-artillery-to-ukraine-but-it-won-t-arrive-for-years

The 18 they plan to send will have to be manufactured by Lockheed. According to the Pentagon, it will take years to build them.

-Lord

Uprightness100:
CONFUSION IN A CONFUSED LEADERSHIP:

Kamala Harris: "The United States shares a very important relationship, which is an alliance with the Republic of North Korea."

Shortly after her remarks North Korea fired 2 more short-range ballistic missiles off east coast today.

How is the United States allied with North Korea?

Mad people everywhere.

Uprightness100:
NUCLEAR STRIKE :
facts about why the Russian Federation will not be able to SUPRISE Ukraine with a nuclear strike.

1. Satellites will record the preparation even at the stage of transportation, the criteria for storing nuclear warheads are very strict.

2. The NATO states put the Russian Federation before the fact that the alliance could destroy the convoy with nuclear weapons even on the way to the starting position.

(GLOBAL Telegram)

Ignorance of that website is bliss. Russia already deployed the Topol-M missile chassis close to Ukraine.

Watcharena:
NATO is becoming funny this days ,can't Russia lunch nuclear weapons from their submarines

What else do you expect from clowns.

timay1:
Are you minding that guy.

Russia is literarily copying NATO's style of Annexation in Yugoslavia (Now Serbia) for the creation of Kosovo.

What people don't know is that Russia copied NATO style word for word.

Let me list the similarities between NATO's Yugoslavia campaign and Russia's Ukraine Campaign

Firstly, NATO accused Yugoslavia of ethnic cleansing and crimes against some ethinc minorites in part of Yugoslavia, the part that now became Kosovo.
Russia use the same template in Ukraine by accusing Ukraine of ethnic cleansing and Shelling of ethinc Russian minorities in Eastern Ukraine (Donbass)


Secondly, NATO sent in troops for Military operation, just like Russia did in Ukraine, and both did not technically declare war on both countries.
NATO was just bombing military assets in Yugoslavia indiscriminately, destroying see Civilian assets and innocent civilians along the way, Belgrade was bombed indiscriminately, even Chinese embassy in Belgrade got bombed accidentally then, that caused serious diplomatic issues with China.
Russia did the same in the first month of the war in Ukraine, bombing Kiev and everywhere allover the country, claiming they were targeting Military assets and installation.

After the whole Iraqi style shock and awe bombing, they then sent in troops to secure the part under dispute and eventually the war shifted to the are, which is now called Kosovo, after they've bombed Yugoslavia and weakend their military to at least reduce resistance a little bit.
Russia did the same and sent in some troops, although they first tried their luck by starting with Kiev, because they thought the Ukrainian govt will flee the country, leaving a vacuum, just like what US did to Iraq where it govt collapsed immediately after they sent in troops but eventually pulled back to Donbass after a month, when that didn't happen

Lastly, after some time of fighting, NATO conducted referendum in Kosovo, with Kosovo later declaring independence. Russia has now done the same with the Donbass.

In conclusion, you can now see the similarities between the two military campaign.

NATO set that shit precedent with Yugoslavia but it won't make the news because they have the western media under their thumb.

That's serving them back with their own plate.

Ibime:
Why didn't Africans settle in Libya than risking their life in the Mediterranean then?

Not after your darling west turned it into a desolate place.

Appleyard:
Not after your darling west turned it into a desolate place.

So they were settling there before 2011?

I wonder why I was meeting guys in Europe as far back as 2001 that nearly lost their lives and sanity on the Libya crossing.

atmy1:

Orban is so right. A dwarf sanctioning a giant. How logical.

atmy1:
Honestly, we can admit that Russia is losing grounds in Ukraine even though there is exxergeration on the western side. However, I am yet to determine whether these withdrawals are strategic moves or just plain mistakes because they are not consistent with Russia's current capabilities.

There are not enough troops. That is the long and short of it.

It's hard to find accurate numbers but total Ukrainian forces including territorial defenses are more than 700,000. They've had 6 mobilizations since the start of the War. And even if Russia kills 500 per day, it'll take 3 months to kill 90,000. They'll just organize another mobilization and replace them in 2 weeks. Also, the war is concentrated in the South and East. They can just keep pouring troops from the rear, Soviet-style.

In contrast, Russia aggregated 120K-180K (depending on who you believe) for the SMO that it rotates. No more than 60-80K at a time. Amongst these are National Guard units. And these are contract soldiers on 6 month contracts. The rest are LDPR militias and Wagner.

The Kremlin should have started mobilization after Ukraine backed out of negotiations in May. By now, they would have had at least 500K troops ready to go. The primary argument for the delay is that they needed support from China before escalation, but Putin could have simply shown Xi evidence of Ukraine amassing troops and materiel before the Summer. Ukraine did not hide their plans. They said they'd launch a Summer counteroffensive.

Russia has a standing military with 1.9 million personnel. But that's split between the different branches and Russia has 11 time zones. And is second only to the US in overseas engagement. From Syria to Armenia to Mali (with Wagner forces).

Putin expected a Georgia redux. Walk in. Smash the military. They capitulate. You leave. It worked for Medvedev in 2008. Because NATO just watched from afar. They barely sent anything. The country has like only 3 million people.

In Ukraine though, the script flipped. They've been waiting for 8 years. NATO had been arming them. They had a pre-war population of 44 million. Putin walked in. Smashed the military. They didn't capitulate. And now he's bogged down. NATO did not spectate this time. They've replaced everything lost. Given Ukraine more than they had at the start of the War. And even established bases in Poland, UK, Germany is next and elsewhere to train elite, combat-capable forces.

I refuse to believe the General Staff did not game this. There is no first-rate military top brass that wouldn't have. I trust the Nigerian Defense HQ to identify such a possibility, and we're barely a regional power. It's hard to pinpoint one reason to explain why they didn't make hay, but that is quintessential Russia. Do the right thing, only after exhausting all other alternatives.

Eventually, Russia will move from an SMO to a full-scale War with millions of combatants. It's inevitable. Or Putin will be deposed. And Shoigu will be lucky if he's not murdered. Russians tolerated Yeltsin's terrible economy, but not the stupefying defeat in the First Chechen War.

At the end of the day, he'll have to decide if he likes his neck or not. As no one would listen to any shalaye about why he had 3000+ aircrafts, inherited Soviet capability to turn New York into a parking lot with an indefensible hypersonic missile, and refused to cut electricity in all of Ukraine right on his border. The "Save Civilians" line wouldn't fly. Grozny was flattened and that was inside Russia. And he was the one who did it. You cannot treat Ukrainians who kill Russians better than an unruly Chechen.

All of that said, I think from a political POV, his restraint has been masterful. MI6 warned Zelensky that Putin will take out energy installations this month. If he had done that at the start of the SMO, it'll have been called brutal, excessive, and unnecessary. Right now, Russians will simply be asking, "What took you so long?" and "What is next on the menu, as that is not enough."

Anything punitive Putin does now, with the odd exception of the use of chemical and nuclear weapons, will not cause as much uproar as it would have earlier in the SMO. Most observers would be like: Finally, this is the Russia we know and dread.

-Lord

timay1:
The only silver-lining here, If Zelensky gets his wishes, is that Eastern Europe will become the new Middle east, with Ukraine being the epicenter.

At least Arab people will for once rest from incensant wars when US and its European allies shift away attention from them

NATO does not accept new members engaged in wars.

gambojimeta:
All those houses and mansions the oligarchs have bought in London and other western countries. How will the girlfriends, spouses and children travel there now

You sound like a spoilt child.

Appleyard:
You sound like a spoilt child.

The truth is not pleasant to taste

olugabbie:
It is a good thing they withdrew their forces instead of risking losing them. But the big question is, will Russia be able to take back those lost territories?

Yes. Why won't they?

At the start of the Civil War, Ukraine actually pummeled the LDPR forces almost to the Russian border, before fresh inflow of weapons and "unofficial" forces (Wagner PMC and Russian forces wearing LDPR fatigue) helped turn the tide. Which led to the Minsk Agreement.

Ukraine started this War with 44m people. 12m people left. Total mobilization pool is 5m at this time. The entire NATO is funneling weapons and money.

Russia has 120m. Less than 1m left. Total mobilization pool in excess of 30m. China has not even started testing their microphone. Only Iran is sending loitering drones.

China sent 1.4m soldiers to Korea when it looked like North Korea could fall and they'd lose their buffer with US forces. They sent soldiers to Vietnam too when it looked like it could fall and they'd lose their buffer with US forces.

Anyone thinking the Russian and Chinese people will let a bunch of Nazi thugs--who claim they want to help the US destabilize Russia and by extension China--run rampant are sniffing sawdust. It is not a coincidence that after the Samarkand summit, Putin hurriedly signed mobilization orders. He will funnel as many Russians to kill as many Ukrainians and take as much territory to cripple Ukraine. And if that fails, China will augment and tap from its 1.3 billion people.

If Ukraine really intends to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian. It'll happen.

-Lord

Fash20:
How is syria under western sphere of influence

Question for the gods.

LordAdam16:
Dude I am done with the topic. You've made your admission.

When anybody kills thousands of American civilians over 8 years, you can say it is not genocide. That's your own prerogative. But if you kill ethnic Russians over 8 years through continuous shelling, that qualifies as genocide to the Russians.

That is their point. That is my point.

400K civilians died in Iraq. 2 million civilians died in Vietnam. But the US does not target civilians. How do you mistakenly kill 400,000 and 2,000,000 unarmed people in two separate conflicts?

-Lord

The west never kills civilians...only the damn Russians do. courtesy of the Lamestream media.

Ibime:
So they were settling there before 2011?

I wonder why I was meeting guys in Europe as far back as 2001 that nearly lost their lives and sanity on the Libya crossing.

Yeah. All the Africans you met in Europe got in from Libya because that's the only route the continent had.

Petraeus: "We would respond by leading a Nato effort that would take out every Russian conventional force that we can see and identify on the battlefield in Ukraine and also in Crimea and every ship in the Black Sea”

Whobedatte:
Petraeus: "We would respond by leading a Nato effort that would take out every Russian conventional force that we can see and identify on the battlefield in Ukraine and also in Crimea and every ship in the Black Sea”

This is if mad man Putin uses nukes on Ukraine ! Russia will not have a functional military

Whobedatte:
Petraeus: "We would respond by leading a Nato effort that would take out every Russian conventional force that we can see and identify on the battlefield in Ukraine and also in Crimea and every ship in the Black Sea”

this is why pootin won’t dare use nuclear weapon

haaryobhami:
this is why pootin won’t dare use nuclear weapon

Russia will only use nukes when NATO officially joins the fight with Ukrainians..

But if Ukraine should attack the annexed territory.. then Russia will declare a full blown out war and will unleash each and every of her deadliest armory

seankafor:
Russia will only use nukes when NATO officially joins the fight with Ukrainians..

But if Ukraine should attack the annexed territory.. then Russia will declare a full blown out war and will unleash each and every of her deadliest armory

After the annexation, Russian soldiers fled from Lyman which is in the DPR. The UA are also pushing ahead in Kherson as I type this post. Kreminna in Luhansk oblast is also under attack.

Sometimes I think Putin's restraint is a political trap to win his allies(China, India, probably Brazil and South Africa) and sow divisions within Europe, which is finally happening. While the real territorial gain in Ukraine has been too slow, Russia's increased influence on the global stage is not in doubt. Look what's happening in Mali and Burkina Faso. Seems Germany is also gradually becoming anti-American which will be a big win. In the end it will be a sweeter victory to isolate America politically. I still think it's wishful thinking and at some point his patience will be exhausted but at least both Russians and other would understand he has tried his best.

LordAdam16:
There are not enough troops. That is the long and short of it.

It's hard to find accurate numbers but total Ukrainian forces including territorial defenses are more than 700,000. They've had 6 mobilizations since the start of the War. And even if Russia kills 500 per day, it'll take 3 months to kill 90,000. They'll just organize another mobilization and replace them in 2 weeks. Also, the war is concentrated in the South and East. They can just keep pouring troops from the rear, Soviet-style.

In contrast, Russia aggregated 120K-180K (depending on who you believe) for the SMO that it rotates. No more than 60-80K at a time. Amongst these are National Guard units. And these are contract soldiers on 6 month contracts. The rest are LDPR militias and Wagner.

The Kremlin should have started mobilization after Ukraine backed out of negotiations in May. By now, they would have had at least 500K troops ready to go. The primary argument for the delay is that they needed support from China before escalation, but Putin could have simply shown Xi evidence of Ukraine amassing troops and materiel before the Summer. Ukraine did not hide their plans. They said they'd launch a Summer counteroffensive.

Russia has a standing military with 1.9 million personnel. But that's split between the different branches and Russia has 11 time zones. And is second only to the US in overseas engagement. From Syria to Armenia to Mali (with Wagner forces).

Putin expected a Georgia redux. Walk in. Smash the military. They capitulate. You leave. It worked for Medvedev in 2008. Because NATO just watched from afar. They barely sent anything. The country has like only 3 million people.

In Ukraine though, the script flipped. They've been waiting for 8 years. NATO had been arming them. They had a pre-war population of 44 million. Putin walked in. Smashed the military. They didn't capitulate. And now he's bogged down. NATO did not spectate this time. They've replaced everything lost. Given Ukraine more than they had at the start of the War. And even established bases in Poland, UK, Germany is next and elsewhere to train elite, combat-capable forces.

I refuse to believe the General Staff did not game this. There is no first-rate military top brass that wouldn't have. I trust the Nigerian Defense HQ to identify such a possibility, and we're barely a regional power. It's hard to pinpoint one reason to explain why they didn't make hay, but that is quintessential Russia. Do the right thing, only after exhausting all other alternatives.

Eventually, Russia will move from an SMO to a full-scale War with millions of combatants. It's inevitable. Or Putin will be deposed. And Shoigu will be lucky if he's not murdered. Russians tolerated Yeltsin's terrible economy, but not the stupefying defeat in the First Chechen War.

At the end of the day, he'll have to decide if he likes his neck or not. As no one would listen to any shalaye about why he had 3000+ aircrafts, inherited Soviet capability to turn New York into a parking lot with an indefensible hypersonic missile, and refused to cut electricity in all of Ukraine right on his border. The "Save Civilians" line wouldn't fly. Grozny was flattened and that was inside Russia. And he was the one who did it. You cannot treat Ukrainians who kill Russians better than an unruly Chechen.

All of that said, I think from a political POV, his restraint has been masterful. MI6 warned Zelensky that Putin will take out energy installations this month. If he had done that at the start of the SMO, it'll have been called brutal, excessive, and unnecessary. Right now, Russians will simply be asking, "What took you so long?" and "What is next on the menu, as that is not enough."

Anything punitive Putin does now, with the odd exception of the use of chemical and nuclear weapons, will not cause as much uproar as it would have earlier in the SMO. Most observers would be like: Finally, this is the Russia we know and dread.

-Lord

Enugurangers:
After the annexation, Russian soldiers fled from Lyman which is in the DPR. The UA are also pushing ahead in Kherson as I type this post. Kreminna in Luhansk oblast is also under attack.

Did I hear you say Kherson, a well defended area that is well staffed?
Each time Ukraine tried to march on Kherson, they had to retreat with massive loses ... Their counter offensive there massively failed....

Whobedatte:
This is if mad man Putin uses nukes on Ukraine ! Russia will not have a functional military

Firstly, the decision to carry out this kind of attack lies with the president.

Secondly, taking out the entire Russian troops in Ukraine is impossible. They can be defeated not destroyed entirely.

Lastly, if a single Russian ship is destroyed by NATO or the US, Russia will definitely respond.

In concluding, he is bluffing.

It is highly likely that Russia will use nuclear weapon if it's forces are defeated in Ukraine. Russia will follow it's Constitution about the use of Nuclear weapon to the later. Although nobody dares respond militarily to this kind of action. But the West will put pressure on China, India & Turkey to cut ties with Russia, which can bring down Russian entire.

Just40:
Did I hear you say Kherson, a well defended area that is well staffed?
Each time Ukraine tried to march on Kherson, they had to retreat with massive loses ... Their counter offensive there massively failed....

Russia currently don't have enough forces in Ukraine. Their priority for now is Kherson. In fact they withdrew forces from Lugansk, Donestsk and Kharkiv to boost the Kherson defence. The reason is simple. If Kherson falls, Crimea will be next. The Ukrainian troops that took Kharkiv are now mounting pressure on both Lugansk and Donestsk. The Russians are hoping that their troops currently in Donbas will hold the line till winter, probably loosing few ground to the Ukrainians.

The 300k troops will not be ready until next year.

If Russia withdraw and lose this war, then it is over. Satanic Imperialist US and NATO will show the world pepper.

Baba Putin, Abeg no fall my hand.