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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 12:20pm On Oct 10, 2022
kopell:
YES Ooo my brother, the Engineer will spell out everything needed in contract including paint Buckets including line's. They are all yours when they finish. One thing that always leads to argument in contracting job out is inflate the materials needed, even after bringing the materials to your site when the job is done many of them will claim the reaming materials are theirs and will like to take them when they are done. I don't understand that ooo. I think we should have a debate on this issue in order to have better understanding.

As a client, my boundary stops at providing materials needed, while the artisan provides the machinery and tools he needs.
Except there's a special agreement between us.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 12:23pm On Oct 10, 2022
omobenz7:
Please house I am trying to do a wood work of a four bedroom apartment and 2 shop at the front of the house. I don't know how to go about it I want to do metpopo design roofing
Contact @ Imran roofing, right here.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Gallybounce: 12:39pm On Oct 10, 2022
RockOfAgesAlumi:

Casement window with burglary and net..12mm rod
...Price for each window
[1]900 x 1400--53k
[2]1200 x 1200--53k
[3]1500 x 1200--63k
[4]700 x 700--32k
[5]700 x 1200--40k
[6]1000 x 700--40k
[7]750 x 1000--40k
Thanks

Location sir.

may I see your designs ?

God bless you .
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Gallybounce: 12:45pm On Oct 10, 2022
michlins:
Omo this welding jobs are expensive in some areas. Can you show picture of the door
chai, I didn’t take the pics of the door. But trust me it’s very thick and heavy and doesn’t make sound. . I will branch when next I pass his place . Do u have idea of imported doors?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Gallybounce: 12:49pm On Oct 10, 2022
Joniww:
go for local. Make sure the welder knows how to do a nice work
trust me it’s very very sturdy.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 12:53pm On Oct 10, 2022
bobkezel:


As a client, my boundary stops at providing materials needed, while the artisan provides the machinery and tools he needs.
Except there's a special agreement between us.
i get your point.. pop is a little different

you ask a guy to do 54sqm at 1k per labour...

you still expect him to buy casting board 13500
range from 4k he will need 4 or so thats 16k
thats almost halve of the labour cost....

hope you understand now..

as electrician you dont need to provide me any tools. pay my labour and get your work done. pop is lil different

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by RockOfAgesAlumi(m): 1:10pm On Oct 10, 2022
Gallybounce:


Location sir.

may I see your designs ?

God bless you .
Mowe Ogun State

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by waley007(m): 1:46pm On Oct 10, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 2:09pm On Oct 10, 2022
twinskenny:

i get your point.. pop is a little different

you ask a guy to do 54sqm at 1k per labour...

you still expect him to buy casting board 13500
range from 4k he will need 4 or so thats 16k
thats almost halve of the labour cost....

hope you understand now..

as electrician you dont need to provide me any tools. pay my labour and get your work done. pop is lil different

Is casting board a component of the pop ceiling or is it a working tool of the pop worker?
If it is a component then the client should buy it, but if it is working tool then the pop guy should have it standby.

As electrician, if I decide to buy the wiring materials will you include your working tools (meter, screw drivers, testers etc) in the list of things I should buy?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinola98: 2:16pm On Oct 10, 2022
Rotecch is FRAUDULENT; INCOMPETENT AND A BIG LIAR

If u check my previous posts, I give positive review to contractors/artisan/sellers here and I also expose the fraudulent/incompetent ones especially after recurrent private discussion

This thread ought to have been opened weeks ago when an incompetency in one aspects of the work he did for me showed up …… but he begged me not to go online that he would fix which he did partially but I finished it privately myself without complaining further

Now, another issue about the roofing of the house he built has been a major and recurrent issue since the roof was installed 3 months ago despite paying him millions for this

The roof leaked recurrently, I had called his attention to it several times , his roofer has been to site more than 5 times to fix this roof but it kept leaking at different sites

I got an independent review on this roof job and I was told he did not use a good roof materials and enough wood to support the roof despite paying him several millions for roofing . One of his roofing staff carelessly confirmed the cause of this recurrent roof leakages in the presence of my supervisor, in one of their various visits to fix the roof .

I drew Rotecch attention to the root of this recurrent roof leakages …initially he argued as usual but later sent his roofer to go inspect and rectify issue . Rotecch also bought additional 2 by 2 wood to support the roof ( because my POP man on NL also confirmed lack of wood support to even hold POP)

Rotecch now went on, to proffer a solution, after recurrent roof leakages, that I should tell my tiler to lay tiles around the edges (parapet) of the roof area ( hidden roof) so that water will not leak/soak at the edges or spread to the middle of roof

I told him it is better for him to get his tiler to do that and I will pay them adequately because the roof already had issues and I do not want him to start passing blame unto my tiler afterwards. Rotecch refused saying his tiler were not in town and it will be months before they are back to town so I had no other choice to use mine ….. I couldn’t wait for months because it was raining and First floor roof POP
needed to start too

Now the roof edge ( Parapet) tiling is done as advised by Rotecch; the POP has started on the first floor . Rain fell and this same roof is still leaking in multiple places …. The roof that had been fixed by ROTECCH more than 5 times …. He collected over 2 million naira for this roof

My site supervisor notified him about this immediately, he said he would send his roofer to inspect in 3 days time. I , personally, notified Rotecch and plead that 3 days time in a rainy season is too long, that this rainwater is damaging the underlying POP … he did not care… at least he has collected his money

Now, after 3days, his roofer came there, inspected the roof, took some pictures/video and left the site .. As expected, Rotecch said damage was done by both tiler and POP installation…. I said how ?? …. He showed me a pic that looks like a damage in the middle of the roof FAR from the edges ( parapet) where the tiler worked, he said tiler stepped there . I said no, tiler NEVER went there… all there work was at parapet place ..

How did POP people cause leaking roof ?? Rotecch said the design I chose for that underlying room was too heavy thereby causing a damage on the roof …. Hmmm, thinking am an idiot or first time landlord… Note it is same POP man ( on NL) that I have been using since and he never said anything about heavy. Still cannot connect the leakage of ROOF and POP

Rotecch, I know u don’t care if my POP get damaged or roof leaked but I will be using your balance to rectify all the damages caused by your INCOMPETENCY …… and if u want us to discuss other fraud, malpractices and incompetency on my site here ranging from electricals…. Structural etc U can start it . I will expose u all

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 3:01pm On Oct 10, 2022
It’s very good as you are here now.
I will reply fully when amless busy
People will now see who is a father of fraud star btw me and you.

I have all my pics, chart, vedio evidence to back up all my point.

You think you can say bad thing against me bcs am just trying to take things easy with you since all this while.
Mr Akinola

This time around am ready for you fully and exposed your fraudulent act.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinola98: 3:53pm On Oct 10, 2022
rotecch77:
It’s very good as you are here now.
I will reply fully when amless busy
People will now see who is a father of fraud star btw me and you.

I have all my pics, chart, vedio evidence to back up all my point.

You think you can say bad thing against me bcs am just trying to take things easy with you since all this while.
Mr Akinola

This time around am ready for you fully and exposed your fraudulent act.


SHOW YOUR EVIDENCES THIEF! , OLE!! … and GLORIFIED BRICKLAYER forming civil engineer/builder!!!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 3:58pm On Oct 10, 2022
akinola98:



SHOW YOUR EVIDENCES THIEF! , OLE!! … and GLORIFIED BRICKLAYER forming civil engineer/builder!!!

d name as you used to say on our chart I will not go that line with you.. you know why?
Elders and wise people will understand.

People will see the evidence soon.

I know you have it but bcs of bad mind to label me bad person here will not allow you to post it.

But you have called for it and people shall see it here.

Am a little busy now

Fraud star claiming doctor in Uk
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MrDraey(m): 4:06pm On Oct 10, 2022
He said casting board and range are his responsibility.

Bought ABS pop for 8k today
hamtabfawaz:



Very Good quotation: ✓
quickly give that person the job, before vendors increase the price of Pop!

PS: He didn't add casting board & Range, does he wants to cast on the floor! Ask him. (Perhaps he'd rent those & still ask you for money).

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 4:09pm On Oct 10, 2022
MrDraey:
He said casting board and range are his responsibility.

Bought ABS pop for 8k today
very good of him
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinola98: 4:18pm On Oct 10, 2022
rotecch77:


d name as you used to say on our chart I will not go that line with you.. you know why?
Elders and wise people will understand.

People will see the evidence soon.

I know you have it but bcs of bad mind to label me bad person here will not allow you to post it.

But you have called for it and people shall see it here.

Am a little busy now

Fraud star claiming doctor in Uk

Who is labelling you bad name
I am saying it the way it is …. SHIOOR!!
U think u are a big boss here so no one will believe me

Am I the first person on NL that is calling u out for your incompetency, lying or fraudulent act

Instead of u to defend the allegations against u …. U are calling a client that paid u over 30million for shitty job a fraud in the UK … �…., A lot of people know me on NL, who has worked with me and still working my project presently …. And we are cool

Be focus ……Defend the allegations against u … and let d police catch me if indeed am fraudulent…. At least u too collected part of the money … OLE!!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 4:25pm On Oct 10, 2022
akinola98:


Who is labelling you bad name
I am saying it the way it is …. SHIOOR!!
U think u are a big boss here so no one will believe me

Am I the first person on NL that is calling u out for your incompetency, lying or fraudulent act

Instead of u to defend the allegations against u …. U are calling a client that paid u over 30million for shitty job a fraud in the UK … �…., A lot of people know me on NL, who has worked with me and still working my project presently …. And we are cool

Be focus ……Defend the allegations against u … and let d police catch me if indeed am fraudulent…. At least u too collected part of the money … OLE!!


You called me many bad names, do you think I will be happy with you.
Am not joking with you.. you have pushed me to wall and I have turned back to hot you back.
If you are truly doctor I believed you should be attending to patient by now… Uk time.

But For the sake of good client I will just pause to call you names for now ( unless you don’t stop to call me bad names) so that good and well cool headed cleint will not see me as arrogant fellow

As I said pics coming soon to back up my claim … when my head is cool.

You get it.

Not only you get bad mouth ooo my friend.

I have sent series of the pics to some members here who called me to know what really happened. And they were wow….

For the sake of well manner and good cleint here pls don’t be offended I talked this way… but when you are pushed to wall you need to react at times

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 4:28pm On Oct 10, 2022
MrDraey:
He said casting board and range are his responsibility.

Bought ABS pop for 8k today

Just Imagine!

I still fear further increase tho.✓
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinola98: 4:36pm On Oct 10, 2022
rotecch77:



You called me many bad names, do you think I will be happy with you.
Am not joking with you.. you have pushed me to wall and I have turned back to hot you back.
If you are truly doctor I believed you should be attending to patient by now… Uk time.

But For the sake of good client I will just pause to call you names for now ( unless you don’t stop to call me bad names) so that good and well cool headed cleint will not see me as arrogant fellow

As I said pics coming soon to back up my claim … when my head is cool.

You get it.

Not only you get bad mouth ooo my friend.

I have sent series of the pics to some members here who called me to know what really happened. And they were wow….

For the sake of well manner and good cleint here pls don’t be offended I talked this way… but when you are pushed to wall you need to react at times

I called u who u are ….. and am not retracting that

U acted Fraudulent, incompetent and a big liar

U can be wow by your private disciples or worshippers … I don’t care …. I met u on this forum and I will register my dissatisfaction for all PUBLICLY TO SEE

BE FOCUS …. Defend the allegations against u !!!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 4:54pm On Oct 10, 2022
bolu1986:
very good of him
That's how it ought be, there's nothing to praise him about over it.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 4:57pm On Oct 10, 2022
MrDraey:
He said casting board and range are his responsibility.

Bought ABS pop for 8k today
@twinskenny hope you see it now.....
Like I said before, you know the truth....
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aforxzy(f): 5:01pm On Oct 10, 2022
Sorry but I don't understand what your engineer said he's going to do so I can't comment on it.

I believe you are building terrace apartments and would love that they have the same features. Since your engineer has confirmed that the problem isn't structural, here's what I'll do.

I will break off the circled portion completely, straighten the rebars and put the formwork back with an additional stiffener at Y. Make sure the props are sufficient enough to support the load then recast.


3strikes:


@aforxzy and Diordaves, I also dont think this is structural related....What is the way forward based on his explanation? What are your thoughts on the solution @hajivince suggested?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 5:07pm On Oct 10, 2022
MrDraey:
Good afternoon everyone

Please help review this quotation for a 54.54sqm POP job.

Pop cement 22bags @7,000 = 154,000

Filas 17kg @2,500 = 42,500

Binding wires 1roll = 11,000

Concrete nails 2pkts = 1600

G-nut oil 2bottles = 2,000

Joy Soap 2rolls = 2,500

Total cost of material= N213,600

Labour N1,000 sq meter = 54,540


Total = N268,140

How much to pay carpenter for scaffolding? This carpenter is requesting 4500 and he said that he will do 7 scaffolds for 3 rooms... Basically he wants to charge 31,500. Bolu1986 and hamtabfawaz is there no way to create scaffolds that can be moveable?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by coldcandy: 5:07pm On Oct 10, 2022
rotecch77:



You called me many bad names, do you think I will be happy with you.
Am not joking with you.. you have pushed me to wall and I have turned back to hot you back.
If you are truly doctor I believed you should be attending to patient by now… Uk time.

But For the sake of good client I will just pause to call you names for now ( unless you don’t stop to call me bad names) so that good and well cool headed cleint will not see me as arrogant fellow

As I said pics coming soon to back up my claim … when my head is cool.

You get it.

Not only you get bad mouth ooo my friend.

I have sent series of the pics to some members
here who called me to know what really happened. And they were wow….

For the sake of well manner and good cleint here pls don’t be offended I talked this way… but when you are pushed to wall you need to react at times

Oga post the pictures here let's all see. You claim you are busy and head is hot but you are sending pictures to some individuals

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinola98: 5:20pm On Oct 10, 2022
rotecch77:



You called me many bad names, do you think I will be happy with you.
Am not joking with you.. you have pushed me to wall and I have turned back to hot you back.
If you are truly doctor I believed you should be attending to patient by now… Uk time.

But For the sake of good client I will just pause to call you names for now ( unless you don’t stop to call me bad names) so that good and well cool headed cleint will not see me as arrogant fellow

As I said pics coming soon to back up my claim … when my head is cool.

You get it.

Not only you get bad mouth ooo my friend.

I have sent series of the pics to some members here who called me to know what really happened. And they were wow….

For the sake of well manner and good cleint here pls don’t be offended I talked this way… but when you are pushed to wall you need to react at times


Be focus! Defend the allegations against u

My profession is not in question here

It is your FRAUDULENT ACT; INCOMPETENCY AND LYING that is in question

I am not one of your disciples/worshippers here …. I was your client that is VERY DISSATISFIED and I will say it out the way it is

PEOPLE, DON’T BE DECEIVED BY THE HOUSES HE POST HERE ….he goes back begging the CLIENT not to expose him after his ACTS ….. based on my experience with him

…. At least, you not the only person I have worked with on NAIRALAND…. in fact, all my workers/subcontractors presently are from nairaland and no issue with them

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 5:23pm On Oct 10, 2022
oduncojamaica:


Sorry who is to provide casting board and the range?. House owner or P.O.P Guys.
I believe it's your property, I mean your working tools and while should I provide you your working tools. Is like buying set of spanner for Mechanic.
"My perspective "

We should, If we're buying all the materials & other necessary items! Vice versa.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by oduncojamaica(m): 5:24pm On Oct 10, 2022
bolu1986:


...if you give out the job as contract say 6k per square meter then i will be the one to provide all the tools and those accessories mentioned up there but if you are buying materials by yourself then you will be responsible for those stuff
My brother as for me ,they are your responsibility because it's your working tools. Q.E.D
God bless our handiwork.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 5:32pm On Oct 10, 2022
bobkezel:

In other words, if I hire a bricklayer for a job, after buying materials (cement, sand, water, stones), I will still buy/provide headpan, shovel, trowel, rope, tape, gauge....

I provided these...and now my POP guy insisted I provide range, board and scaffold which I have provided except the scaffold because carpenter wants to cut my neck...
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Prudency045: 5:36pm On Oct 10, 2022
This is not the first or second-time clients will call you out here. When more than 3 people come here to complain about your work, they can't be wrong.

Search yourself and do the right thing. Don't become complacent.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MrDraey(m): 5:37pm On Oct 10, 2022
We agreed for 10k everything (2bed, kitchen, sitting room n dinning - he was the guy that did my roofing)
redgem:


How much to pay carpenter for scaffolding? This carpenter is requesting 4500 and he said that he will do 7 scaffolds for 3 rooms... Basically he wants to charge 31,500. Bolu1986 and hamtabfawaz is there no way to create scaffolds that can be moveable?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Philipok: 5:38pm On Oct 10, 2022
Quality and affordable art work available, contact me for immediate delivery.09058432795

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MrDraey(m): 5:38pm On Oct 10, 2022
He said there will be increment in coming days, he blamed the rise mostly on the flood. Star gips was 7,800 last
hamtabfawaz:


Just Imagine!

I still fear further increase tho.✓

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