₦airaland Forum

dyera:
The Chaos and destruction in Lagos occurred after the Lekki massacre incident. The perpetrators were venting their anger on Tinubu because they believed he was the one that ordered the massacre. That's why when they got to Oriental hotel and saw a banner saying that Tinubu is not the owner of the hotel, they turned back.

Let us forget about politics. Can Tinubu order army to shoot in a state where there is governor? Oyingbo Teerminal with Brt buses were burned down. Is Tinubu the owner of the terminal? Let us just be sincere. Anger should be vent on Sanwoolu or Buahri not Tinubu who is not part of Govt.

Abdul05:
You are Right sir,

he is just an open minded person ,he was not trying to deceive or hide or play politics as obi does

I wish he could be the one to be elected as our president..

Northern man promoting Northern agenda.

THE BIG QUESTION??WHO ARE THE OTHER BETTER CANDIDATES? THE TRUTH IS, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED.

othermen:
It’s genuine to ask how Obi can navigate the nation without a structure. It’s also genuine to feel that Obi is part of the lot. He was only selling us an Atiku and PDP less than a year ago. Now, Endsars appears political, when the core of the issue has gone beyond what motivated it, but that the government response was wicked and callous.

That should be the priority in any discussion of that terrible episode, to guarantee Nigerians an unrepentant pursuit of Justice for those killed on that day.


To be clear, Atiku would never earn my vote; the decision is a function of his antecedents. Tinubu would also not earn my vote; he has channeled Lagos wealth to his own private coffers, but much worse is his health status, his age -all of which indicate he would likely only be a liability to the nation and perhaps intensify the nations descent into dreadful.

While, the above is my direction; it does not indicate my destination as I am yet to make a decision; however, it does not help my making a decision, the irritating buzz that comes from wanting to know more about Obi or know more about his acclaimed antecedents. What I know about him, which is true, does not support the premise upon which he aspires or is not sufficient for any right minded individual to pronounce him as some messiah of sort.

I know he is a remarkable story teller; and that being a remarkable story teller can gain you recognition or awards; but being a remarkable story teller can in itself, for a right minded person - be a red flag, especially when there are conscious effort such as bullying towards those hoping for some substantiation. To hope that his many claims are collaborated and substantiated is ‘just’ rather than the callous calumny campaign towards those hoping to collaborate or substantiate his candidacy in proper context. Such campaign is intended to detract our reason from more important questions about him and while it may propel him to many more than it diminishes him with fewer more; it hurts to see us all foolishly led and manipulatively mishandled.

The justification for such a callous act has been that the other two foremost candidates are in whatever disguise a much more worse lot for us as a country. I think one of the two candidates already have a political base that is impervious to reason; and even a powerful base at that, which is more attuned to ethnic and religious affiliations than to rescue themselves from poverty and insecurity afflictions they are so sustained. The candidate that now has this advantage with such a base had Obi as a deputy in the last election. The other candidate is not so fortunate with such a base, but the character of his perspective is equally gloomy. This has been the justification, that however the inadequacies in Obi, it’s a raindrop to the other candidate oceans of inadequacies. However how quickly can many raindrop turn to a flood, an hurricane, a ruin.

Are there other candidates more deserving of our propelling than an Obi without any luggage indicating their journey is further down? I believe, we should consider or else Obi repent of his current outlook and take on in many debates of genuine question about his aspiration to show truly why he is not the least worse of the lots, but actually good for Nigeria as a country and engage in this conversations, not politically but genuinely. His visitation and pursuit of endorsements by those who have ruined the nation only indicate that his direction might not be so much different.

Are there other candidates to examine?? Perhaps. However, they don’t have the momentum, Obi could sustain by being forthcoming and clear about his condemnations of the sources of the troubles of our country. It’s no longer, unmistakable, that Obi feeds into our emotional senses, and we applaud him, where we should question him and his nonexistent plan for the redemption of our country.

usecondom:
Own goal

Comprehension is key, you can’t understand, because Una no smart

emerged01:
Let us forget about politics. Can Tinubu order army to shoot in a state where there is governor? Oyingbo Teerminal with Brt buses were burned down. Is Tinubu the owner of the terminal? Let us just be sincere. Anger should be vent on Sanwoolu or Buahri not Tinubu who is not part of Govt.

The people at that time were angry, some persons argued that Tinubu is the real owner of Lekki tollgate and instigated the people to vent their anger on Tinubu.

Nigeria is too big and complex than you and your oga..make onwa rest and support PDP for better NigeriaNigeria is too big and complex than you and your oga..make onwa rest and support PDP for better Nigeria...

If this was shetima or any apc spokesman everywhr go dey on fire by now

Melezenawii:
This man is not on the same page with obidients. He is not a man that swim with lies. The guy is proving to be a researcher, asking questions and not taking sides

Because obidients are Ipob ESN

There is nothing like SARs brutality in Northern Nigeria and as such they can't understand it hence it will remain a political issue to them. Datti Ahmed was right from his perspective.

nkemoma:
You call your fellow humans.. Pigs!!!

The creator will be so proud of you Leo.. So proud Ore mi.

Shut up, you worthless pig.
No be your papa be this?

nkemoma:
Ogun kee you there... Afonja Slave...
Keep kissing Fulani blokos till your children disown you.
Afonja

rhymesnoni:
I was not and would never be an advocate for end SAR, No regret at all! SARS might have it lapses, the society is more vulnerable to crimes, without SARS.

I no be criminal, nothing to fear from SARS.

You don't get still.

No one said End Police.

It was End Police brutality which SARS typified.

othermen:
It’s genuine to ask how Obi can navigate the nation without a structure. It’s also genuine to feel that Obi is part of the lot. He was only selling us an Atiku and PDP less than a year ago. Now, Endsars appears political, when the core of the issue has gone beyond what motivated it, but that the government response was wicked and callous.

That should be the priority in any discussion of that terrible episode, to guarantee Nigerians an unrepentant pursuit of Justice for those killed on that day.


To be clear, Atiku would never earn my vote; the decision is a function of his antecedents. Tinubu would also not earn my vote; he has channeled Lagos wealth to his own private coffers, but much worse is his health status, his age -all of which indicate he would likely only be a liability to the nation and perhaps intensify the nations descent into dreadful.

While, the above is my direction; it does not indicate my destination as I am yet to make a decision; however, it does not help my making a decision, the irritating buzz that comes from wanting to know more about Obi or know more about his acclaimed antecedents. What I know about him, which is true, does not support the premise upon which he aspires or is not sufficient for any right minded individual to pronounce him as some messiah of sort.

I know he is a remarkable story teller; and that being a remarkable story teller can gain you recognition or awards; but being a remarkable story teller can in itself, for a right minded person - be a red flag, especially when there are conscious effort such as bullying towards those hoping for some substantiation. To hope that his many claims are collaborated and substantiated is ‘just’ rather than the callous calumny campaign towards those hoping to collaborate or substantiate his candidacy in proper context. Such campaign is intended to detract our reason from more important questions about him and while it may propel him to many more than it diminishes him with fewer more; it hurts to see us all foolishly led and manipulatively mishandled.

The justification for such a callous act has been that the other two foremost candidates are in whatever disguise a much more worse lot for us as a country. I think one of the two candidates already have a political base that is impervious to reason; and even a powerful base at that, which is more attuned to ethnic and religious affiliations than to rescue themselves from poverty and insecurity afflictions they are so sustained. The candidate that now has this advantage with such a base had Obi as a deputy in the last election. The other candidate is not so fortunate with such a base, but the character of his perspective is equally gloomy. This has been the justification, that however the inadequacies in Obi, it’s a raindrop to the other candidate oceans of inadequacies. However how quickly can many raindrop turn to a flood, an hurricane, a ruin.

Are there other candidates more deserving of our propelling than an Obi without any luggage indicating their journey is further down? I believe, we should consider or else Obi repent of his current outlook and take on in many debates of genuine question about his aspiration to show truly why he is not the least worse of the lots, but actually good for Nigeria as a country and engage in this conversations, not politically but genuinely. His visitation and pursuit of endorsements by those who have ruined the nation only indicate that his direction might not be so much different.

Are there other candidates to examine?? Perhaps. However, they don’t have the momentum, Obi could sustain by being forthcoming and clear about his condemnations of the sources of the troubles of our country. It’s no longer, unmistakable, that Obi feeds into our emotional senses, and we applaud him, where we should question him and his nonexistent plan for the redemption of our country.

I totally agree with you my brother. I may have been clamoring for his candidacy because I knew him and what he brought to the table as Anambra governor but sometimes I have to put myself in the shoes of others who were either not from his region or followed him as a governor. The glaring truth is that we don't have a perfect human let alone a perfect politician. Obi won't solve all of our problems but I am sure he will solve a lot of our problems. To clearly give you a perspective of what to expect from his presidency if he wins, Obi would rather have all the health centers in different communities working than to have just one record breaking giant hospital. Not a flamboyant politician. All in all, his candidacy has been a game changer for our democracy. For me personally, my yardstick to guessing how a person's presidency would look like is to check if he has both character and intelligence. You must have both to govern well. No matter how intelligent you are, if you don't have the right character (discipline) you won't govern well. Finally, the only way to know candidates is through rigorous media process and to be fair with him, he has done well by subjecting himself to this process and attempting even uncomfortable questions.

Curious345:
Hnmm..

In trying to appease his northern brothers , he has to sound conspiratory ..
Most hausa-fulani believe the #endsars was directed against their power and religion .
The northerners killed #Endsars protesters in Abuja ,(if you remember).


So we understand sir .. just do your job

Sweet Answer!

Whiteshield:
Shut up, you worthless pig.
No be your papa be this?

we don't need people like you on nairaland .. you're a black stain to this platform

Moh247:
Let's all be honest , the endsars jamboree makes no damn sense and it's far more political

Some parts of the country, they used it to burn down police stations and loot their ammunition.
It gave room for such atrocities by criminals

dayoscape:
I don't think it's political

It's literally Nigerians asking for a better government

No. It was mainly young Nigerians agitating for SARS harassment and extortion to stop. Nothing to do with agitation for good governance.

If that was the case then protestors, as some of us demanded, should have laid seige on NASS premises in Abuja, and not Lekki tollgate or Lagos Oba palace, to demand restructuring, State policing, resource control etc,etc.

For those who can reason critically, it is obvious #EndSARS was politically hijacked by those who wanted to discredit the PMB Government and Lagos APC.

Buhari made concessions early by disbanding SARS and showing a readiness to listen to conditions youth committees present. Yet leaders of the protest showed no interest in productive negotiations confirming the revelation that many of them were being paid by politicians to forment trouble for the ruling government.

Some of the youth leaders of the protest had large and suspicious payments into their accounts leading DSS to temporarily suspend their accounts. #EndSARS was hijacked by political mischief 100%.

North and South have no business to be one. Bigot Datti

dyera:
The Chaos and destruction in Lagos occurred after the Lekki massacre incident. The perpetrators were venting their anger on Tinubu because they believed he was the one that ordered the massacre. That's why when they got to Oriental hotel and saw a banner saying that Tinubu is not the owner of the hotel, they turned back.

You can keep lying to yourself Nigeria youths are wake up youths who did a lots of research everything that happened in lekki tollgate that night was connected to Tinubu.

First let me make it clear to you that Lekki Tollgate is controlled by Tinubu’s son name of company is Lekki Concession company, now the following questions which every reasonable Nigerians should be asking is that who ordered the removal of CCTV’s from the Tollgate and switch off the lights?
Who ordered military presence in that place to shoot at protesters?

If you’re not asking this questions then you’re not a patriotic Nigerian, it could happen to anyone and you won’t still get justice such abnormalities should be checked

Luambo89:
Typical Nigerian Muslim. Find reasons to support your own. Even if Obi says the same thing, he wouldn't impress you. Nonsense.

You can imagine even one of the masterminder of the massacred are saying another thing now.
Ask General Enenche

No Northerner will understand Police Brutality. It is not existing in North. No road blocks and SARS never operated in North. Soo don't expect any Northerner to understand Endsars.

Melezenawii:
We don't Know the Motives and Political Underpinning Behind Endsars- LP VP CANDIDATE, Yusuf Datti Baba Ahmed


Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVtHWWP_ulU

I really want to know what happened during #EndSARS. There could have been #EndGovernance, #EndCorruption. SARS was an aspect. - Yusuf Datti Baba-Ahmed, Labour Party VP Candidate#PoliticsToday#CTVTweets pic.twitter.com/vNpBhjdhcQ

— Channels Television (@channelstv) October 20, 2022

But this man was spot on! Mikano boys and Agbado urchins all have dead brains that's y they can't understand simple statement and the logic behind what he just said. Police brutality was just a subset of bad governance. In Nigeria, most people don't understand the full meaning of the word politics. In this context, Datti was not referring to what you call " playing politics". Datti was referring to understanding the political aim of the protesters. "Was it only because of police brutality or was it because of bad governance?? " that's the politics behind the event. He wants to understand that politics.
For me however, if the protest was only on police brutality, then it wasn't worth it. But if it was for bad governance, that'd have been better.

[quote author=Melezenawii post=117740119]We don't Know the Motives and Political Underpinning Behind Endsars- LP VP CANDIDATE, Yusuf Datti Baba Ahmed


Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVtHWWP_ulU

I really want to know what happened during #EndSARS. There could have been #EndGovernance, #EndCorruption. SARS was an aspect. - Yusuf Datti Baba-Ahmed, Labour Party VP Candidate#PoliticsToday#CTVTweets pic.twitter.com/vNpBhjdhcQ

— Channels Television (@channelstv) October 20, 2022

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To know what really happened there I think Channels Television have to interview General Enenche, Obi and Swore pls. Nigerians deserve to know many things there oo, Walahi even Buhari didn't what happened.

Social media have becomes something now, lie lie everywhere

When will they interview tinubu about endsars ?

This man is more straightforward than his principal.

Bigchristo:
You can keep lying to yourself Nigeria youths are wake up youths who did a lots of research everything that happened in lekki tollgate that night was connected to Tinubu.

First let me make it clear to you that Lekki Tollgate is controlled by Tinubu’s son name of company is Lekki Concession company, now the following questions which every reasonable Nigerians should be asking is that who ordered the removal of CCTV’s from the Tollgate and switch off the lights?
Who ordered military presence in that place to shoot at protesters?

If you’re not asking this questions then you’re not a patriotic Nigerian, it could happen to anyone and you won’t still get justice such abnormalities should be checked

The Question also should be why were those at the LEKKI TOLL GATE still hell bent on remaining therewhen a curfew had been lawfully declared by the Authority? Or they didn't know it is an offense to disobey a curfew order?

dayoscape:
I don't think it's political

It's literally Nigerians asking for a better government

What was their end game? How would they be convinced that governance had improved? They asked for end sars to be disbanded and it was, thy asked for inclusion and they were invited to join the committee probing end sars personnel. They kept on moving the gola points. At one stage, they were chanting "end buhari"

This was not about better governance it was about changing government.

A great moment for national renewal and the catalyzation of a new movement was blown because end sars leaders had no end game or off ramp. Many of their leaders are the children of my friends. Today, they are quiet. None of them was at the "memorial" they were at work.

Whiteshield:
Shut up, you worthless pig.
No be your papa be this?

Afonja Slave remains an Afonja Slave... Humans are slave..

Humans ain't pigs... And even if I am wrong.. 2 wrongs don't make a right.

You don't like my candidate no matter how much Christ like he may seem, you don't like him and that would never change. I don't like your candidate as well, maybe more or just as much as you detest mine but I don't like him and funny enough there are people who stand to hate both your candidate and mine and also those who don't even care about them.
So I suggest that you and I could just stop embarrassing ourselves, go to the polling and vote, shutting up all the way.

Liar! The killing of policemen, burning off stations, looting of malls, robbery, burning of BRT on the 19th of October, made the Govt declare curfew on the 20th. After dispersing those that decided to remain at the toll gate on the night of 20th, everywhere automatically became calm from 21st. All people were posting was lamentation on social media and jokes about wanting to travel abroad. Soldiers were on the streets, nobody protested anymore.
Stop trying to twist history. Its just 2years, everything is still fresh with video evidence

dyera:
The Chaos and destruction in Lagos occurred after the Lekki massacre incident. The perpetrators were venting their anger on Tinubu because they believed he was the one that ordered the massacre. That's why when they got to Oriental hotel and saw a banner saying that Tinubu is not the owner of the hotel, they turned back.

hero2000:
You don't get still.

No one said End Police.

It was End Police brutality which SARS typified.

But SARS was disbanded and the leaders of the moment was invited to join the probe of end sars officers that had abused their position and to make recommendations that would ensure an end to police brutality.

They did not join. Were they really interested ib ending police brutality. Those of them that joined the probe are being vilified till today.

Every movement must have an off ramp. End sars had none. This isn't surprising because the alliance that supported it was a mixture of odd bed fellows and contradictory positions.

FreeStuffsNG:
We remember the victims of the lekkilies and coirdinated arson terrorist attack on Lagos by ipob terrorist group on 20:10:2020.
The victims deserve justice

I could remember that arson started on the 19th Oct,2020 hence the reason for declaring curfew on the 20th from 7pm.
The crisis escalated the moment the protesters defied the curfew.Orile police station was burnt on the 19th October while Olosan police station Mushin was burnt on the 20th afternoon.

Jogs1900:
I could remember that arson started on the 19th Oct,2020 hence the reason for declaring curfew on the 20th from 7pm.
The crisis escalated the moment the protesters defied the curfew.Orile police station was burnt on the 19th October while Olosan police station Mushin was burnt on the 20th afternoon.

This is on the orders of the ipob terrorist group leader.

In AUTHENTIC audio below are Nnamdi kanu's orders to ipob on live Radio during Endsars Protests




1hr 35Mins
Destroy every bridge and kill all Police

1hr 46 mins
burn down Tinubu’s hotel

1 hr 42 min
Burn down Nitel building and all Govt buildings in lagos, burn down Muritala Mohammed Airport

1hr 39 min kanu orders IPOB to Kill Army Officers and manufacture Weapons

1hr 47 min Tinubu must go down

1hr 52 min
kanu Confirmed information that Cele and Orile police Stations In lagos are on fire and Is delighted

Orders ipob to use green white green and blood as the Nigerian flag.

Tells ipob to target Tinubu and Sanwo Olu and their Children

1 hr 56 min
block every road kill Sabotuers


2hr.00 min
Destroy everything holding the Economy of Nigeria. Burn all pipelines

2.hr09 min
Kill the Army in Lekki [/b]Claims 15 people were killed in Lekki.,Set Dangote Trucks on Fire.

2.hr 15 min
[b] Burn down Every Federal Govt Building attack Police.

2hr 18 mins
Describes again how to make Molotov Cocktail bombs

2hr20min kanu asks where are the ipob People with Double barrel guns in Abuja?

2 hr 22 min
ipob will make an example of Ikpeazu and Sanwo Olu all Tinubu’s nvestments should be destroyed

2hr 24min build bombs and lay them by the roadside

2 hr 32 min kill any Governor that declares Curfew


2hr 56min
kanu says Tinubu’s hotel is on fire on his orders

3 hr 09 mins
burn everything Tinubu owns and Dangote Trucks the war has started

Every Police Station must go down


destroy all Federal Government Property burn down Lekki Toll Gate destroy Dangote refinery burn every Pastors Church that supports one Nigeria







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktk4uXmlOLs