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Kobojunkie:
Impossible!

▪︎Jesus Christ warned His followers never to set themselves up as the Gentile rulers - politicians - over any of the others - Matthew 20 vs 20 - 28 & Mark 10 vs 42 - 45 & Luke 22 vs 25 - 27

▪︎ Jesus Christ also indicated that those who are His followers are no longer to work for food that perishes but rather for food that endures to eternity which only He can give to them, and the work He calls on all of His followers to do is to believe in the one who sent Him - John 6 vs 25 - 35

▪︎ Jesus Christ also warned His followers that they can't serve two masters in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 6 vs 24

Basically, you cannot serve the world(its politics included) and serve God at the same time.

Anakazo22:
What do you mean by impossible, was Daniel not a politician..how about Joseph, David just to mention a few Bible men...pls stop taking scriptures out of context to misled people

naijaclass:
The political docility of Christians of the early church could be traced to the fact that Israel and some gentile nations were under the colonial rule of the Roman Empire and Christians were taught to be in subjection to the authorities that be at best, they were to pray for those in power and could not participate in the politics of their time.
This might have been responsible for why Christians hesitate to be actively involved in the politics of our days, whereas, the God we believe and serve is interested in the way the world is governed (Romans 13: 1, 1Timothy 2: 1-2, Genesis 1: 28).

cornelboy:
I often hear people say 'politics is a dirty game' and i have experienced it in my school, local government and even in my church.

Irrespective of your religion, you'll always get dirty.

Kobojunkie:
Impossible!

▪︎Jesus Christ warned His followers never to set themselves up as the Gentile rulers - politicians - over any of the others - Matthew 20 vs 20 - 28 & Mark 10 vs 42 - 45 & Luke 22 vs 25 - 27

▪︎ Jesus Christ also indicated that those who are His followers are no longer to work for food that perishes but rather for food that endures to eternity which only He can give to them, and the work He calls on all of His followers to do is to believe in the one who sent Him - John 6 vs 25 - 35

▪︎ Jesus Christ also warned His followers that they can't serve two masters in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 6 vs 24

Basically, you cannot serve the world(its politics included) and serve God at the same time.

Bigsecret:
Hmmm
How do we influence if we allow unbelievers rule us?

membranus:
You are making the same mistake that Prophet Samuel made of Jesse's children, when he looked at the stature and countenance of Jesse's first born and concluded that he must be the anointed king, whereas he was wrong.

So just by looking at Osibanjo, you assumed that he can't be corrupt? Bro, you may be surprised that if he is put under detailed scrutiny, he may come up as dirty as the rest.

Kobojunkie:
How many of those you have listed above were indicated as disciples/followers of Jesus Christ in scripture?

I suggest you take your own advice then and learn to consider that which is written in scripture in the context that it is presented so you do not continue to ignorantly mislead even your own self there.

TAYO124:
If you cannot be political and Christian then why are you human at all?

Bigsecret:
Hmmm
How do we influence if we allow unbelievers rule us?

Anakazo22:
1. You are really daft about the Bible, so it's only the words of Jesus that is in the Bible...that means the old testament is of no important from what you are saying... Romans 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

TAYO124:
If you cannot be political and Christian then why are you human at all?

Getsaved:
Either by appointment or election different people were, haas been and will be. E.g in the bible : Joseph was, Daaniel was with three emperors, e.t.c the politician who beg for the body of Jesus for burial was a disciple. many early amerian senators and presidents we're geniune christians , go to south korea and see many members of Paul youngishow church are top politicians and geniunely christians.

That politics in Nigeria is very corrupt does not mean politics is sin. many geniune christins in nigera are very docile, afriad , steorotipic, myopic. Manny of the top pastors make them see politics as sin,

I have alot to say on this that I can't write

Kobojunkie:
A Christian is called to live, not according to the world and its politics but according to the Kingdom of God and God's Law and Truth. So, to hold on to politics of this world is to claim dual citizenship, and as Jesus Christ explained, you cannot serve two Masters/Kingdoms/Laws as a citizen of the Kingdom of God.

Kobojunkie:
1. Well, you are told that God is True and that Jesus Christ is the Truth - John 14 vs 6 -, the very Word out of God's mouth - Matthew 4 vs 4. So it follows that Jesus Christ is the standard as far as God's Truth is concerned.

The Word out of God's mouth was revealed to men through God's prophets so it follows that God's Truth was spoken even in your Old Covenant. You need to carefully analyze these things to understand what is revealed.

Scripture, however, is a compendium of the thoughts of men, of demons and even Satan himself, lies, and also of the Word of God. Meaning everything should be validated against that which was revealed by God to realize Truth from lies. So essentially, it is wrong to claim that Scripture is Truth.

Think carefully about these things to realize what what in fact spoken to you.

Anakazo22:
1. There are people who by destiny are called to serve in government and advance God's kingdom in such sectors...not everyone are called to the five fold ministry. So when Christians run away from politics automatically they are giving the people of the world to take advantage of them and this is what has been happening for a long time. comments like yours are erroneous because a genuine believer can be a politician and not corrupt if that's is what he or she is called to do.
2. As corrupt as Babylon, Daniel stood out in his days and there are still politicians today we may not know who are still full of integrity and do their job with the fear of God.
We shouldn't discouraged believers from going into politics just as you won't discouraged a believer from going into the academic world to fulfill his purpose.

Kobojunkie:
1. I am afraid there are no such people. In the Kingdom of God, all are called to become more like Jesus Christ and not like any other. And since Jesus Christ did not occupy any political offices in thus world, it makes no sense to assume that those called by Him would. Also, He gave strict rules ruling out such ideas to begin with in His Law and Gospel.

2. Daniel was part of God's Old Covenant Law of Moses, an agreement which applied to the children of Israel in the Land of Canaan- Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. That agreement allows the people of Israel to engage in politics of this world according to the standard set by that Law. However, you on the other hand are called to the agreement that is Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ made it abundantly clear in His Law that none of His own are to engage in the politics of this world , nor serve two masters /laws/Kingdoms as they are all of them of the Kingdom of God and not of this world.

Anakazo22:
Na wa oo, you have been mislead that's all I can say

Kobojunkie:
Don't tell me I am misled. Show me exactly how I have been by showing via scripture that Jesus Christ in fact allows you to work as a politician in His name.

Anakazo22:
1..Your problem is that you read only the synoptic gospel and use it to interpret everything, is it only the words of Jesus that is in the Bible,

2. what about the Epistles of the apostles, are they not relevant... infact if you follow only what is in the synoptic gospel you will be shortchange and I think that's what is happening to you....
3. I don't have time to come and expound scriptures in this forum and you sound like a Jehovah witness because I know they don't involve in politics

Andytyx:
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Andytyx:
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