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Beverlyjean:
All time goal scorer , scoring minors... 60% of his goals are from friendly games...while 18% of Ronaldo’s goals are from friendlies

BeverlyJean your arguments are devoid of logic and inconsistent, so it is pointless going back and forth with you.

For example in one case up there, you said Messi did not have any real input in 2014 world cup cos he did not have G/A in the knockout stages (even though he actually had an assist in the second round), in your next point you said assists have no value that bossing the midfield like Xavi and Modric is more valuable (which Messi does a lot).

Again, on what you put up there, Ronaldo has scored more goals against the likes of Estonia, Faroe Island, Lithuania, Andorra, Luxembourg etc, than Messi has against Honduras, Jamaica et al. The absolute fact out there is that Ronaldo has benefited more from playing unrated national teams than Messi, yet you still bring it up to slander Messi. It's like Femi-Fani Kayode accusing Peter Obi of party disloyalty.

Can you now see how very unintelligent you sound in many of your posts? It's almost like engaging with a challenged kid. And it seems you don't care whether what you say is coherent, so long as it's targeted at pulling down Messi, even if it's mumbo jumbo it's fine.

I know you will put up yet another brain-cringing response to my comment but I sincerely do hope you don't express poor judgement like this in real life.

Cc: Sagamite Ojeemah Jokerman Bouncing2

ThierryJay:
BeverlyJean your arguments are devoid of logic and inconsistent, so it is pointless going back and forth with you.

For example in one case up there, you said Messi did not have any real input in 2014 world cup cos he did not have G/A in the knockout stages (even though he actually had an assist in the second round), in your next point you said assists have no value that bossing the midfield like Xavi and Modric is more valuable (which Messi does a lot).

Again, on what you put up there, Ronaldo has scored more goals against the likes of Estonia, Faroe Island, Lithuania, Andorra, Luxembourg etc, than Messi has against Honduras, Jamaica et al. The absolute fact out there is that Ronaldo has benefited more from playing unrated national teams than Messi, yet you still bring it up to slander Messi. It's like Femi-Fani Kayode accusing Peter Obi of party disloyalty.

Can you now see how very unintelligent you sound in many ;Dof your posts? It's almost like engaging with a challenged kid. And it seems you don't care whether what you say is coherent, so long as it's targeted at pulling down Messi, even if it's mumbo jumbo it's fine.

I know you will put up yet another brain-cringing response to my comment but I sincerely do hope you don't express poor judgement like this in real life.

Cc: Sagamite Ojeemah Jokerman Bouncing2

The bolded

It’s like you missed the part where he said, Fabregas has more assist in EPL when record shows Fabregas is behind Giggs in all time assist in EPL. Fabregas is also behind Henry in highest assists recorded per season. Henry did 20. Fab and Ozil did 18 & 19 until recently that KDB equalled the record after many attempts but bros say na fabregas get the record

Na laugh full my belle as I dey read comments today.

OJEEMAH:
The bolded

It’s like you missed the part where he said, Fabregas has more assist in EPL when record shows Fabregas is behind Giggs in all time assist in EPL. Fabregas is also behind Henry in highest assists recorded per season. Henry did 20. Fab and Ozil did 18 & 19 until recently that KDB equalled the record after many attempts but bros say na fabregas get the record

Na laugh full my belle as I dey read comments today.

E be like say d guy dey take too much Cappuchino cos his cappings are on another level. It's pointless trying to make him see reason and I was just laughing at the energy Sagamite was using to engage him cos it's like he's not aware of his antecedents here.

OJEEMAH:
The bolded

It’s like you missed the part where he said, Fabregas has more assist in EPL when record shows Fabregas is behind Giggs in all time assist in EPL. Fabregas is also behind Henry in highest assists recorded per season. Henry did 20. Fab and Ozil did 18 & 19 until recently that KDB equalled the record after many attempts but bros say na fabregas get the record

Na laugh full my belle as I dey read comments today.

U keep on posting trash .... where did i ever say Fabregas has the EPL all time record.... I said a season record ... just like salah has the record for goals but shearer has the all time record

Beverlyjean:
U keep on posting trash .... where did i ever say Fabregas has the EPL all time record.... I said a season record ... just like salah has the record for goals but shearer has the all time record

Biko, don’t mistake me for the Person you had that argument with on this thread.

You are still wrong…… Fabregas never crossed 18 assists in a season.

Henry did 20 in 2003/2004 and that’s the highest in EPL history.

Like I said before, the highest Fabregas did was 18.

Ozil did 19

KDB equalled Henry’s record of 20 assists in a season last year.

You stat is wrong

ThierryJay:
E be like say d guy dey take too much Cappuchino cos his cappings are on another level. It's pointless trying to make him see reason and I was just laughing at the energy Sagamite was using to engage him cos it's like he's not aware of his antecedents here.

How work bro?

OJEEMAH:


How work bro?

I'm in the middle of it brother and it's going fine. How's ur side holding up too?

OJEEMAH:
The bolded

It’s like you missed the part where he said, Fabregas has more assist in EPL when record shows Fabregas is behind Giggs in all time assist in EPL. Fabregas is also behind Henry in highest assists recorded per season. Henry did 20. Fab and Ozil did 18 & 19 until recently that KDB equalled the record after many attempts but bros say na fabregas get the record

Na laugh full my belle as I dey read comments today.

@ThierryJay

Here is a picture of inaugurations of Obama and Trump:

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/01/20/us/politics/trump-inauguration-crowd-1484943564224/trump-inauguration-crowd-1484943564224-videoSixteenByNineJumbo1600.jpg

It is obviously clear from the pictures that more people attended Obama's inauguration than attended Trump's, right?

But when Trump supporters were shown these two pictures and asked which one had more people, you will be surprised that 15% of Trump supporters said the Trump picture had more people than the Obama picture.

See the report of that survey here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/01/25/we-asked-people-which-inauguration-crowd-was-bigger-heres-what-they-said/

They had all the excuses in the world why the picture with less people actually has more people despite seeing the pictures side by side (i.e Juxtaposed).

These 15% mooooronic, deluded and die-hard Trump supporters are sick in the head and exactly like crreeetinous fuuuckards like Beverlyjean, Dreynox and co in their deluded support for Penaldo despite all the stats in their front.

They are all sick in the head!!!

Sagamite:
@ThierryJay

Here is a picture of inaugurations of Obama and Trump:

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/01/20/us/politics/trump-inauguration-crowd-1484943564224/trump-inauguration-crowd-1484943564224-videoSixteenByNineJumbo1600.jpg

It is obviously clear from the pictures that more people attended Obama's inauguration than attended Trump's, right?

But when Trump supporters were shown these two pictures and asked which one had more people, you will be surprised that 15% of Trump supporters said the Trump picture had more people than the Obama picture.

See the report of that survey here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/01/25/we-asked-people-which-inauguration-crowd-was-bigger-heres-what-they-said/

They had all the excuses in the world why the picture with less people actually has more people despite seeing the pictures side by side (i.e Juxtaposed).

These 15% mooooronic, deluded and die-hard Trump supporters are sick in the head and exactly like crreeetinous fuuuckards like Beverlyjean, Dreynox and co in their deluded support for Penaldo despite all the stats in their front.

They are all sick in the head!!!

U are a bloody fool. U child of a wh0re.

Sagamite:
@ThierryJay

Here is a picture of inaugurations of Obama and Trump:

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/01/20/us/politics/trump-inauguration-crowd-1484943564224/trump-inauguration-crowd-1484943564224-videoSixteenByNineJumbo1600.jpg

It is obviously clear from the pictures that more people attended Obama's inauguration than attended Trump's, right?

But when Trump supporters were shown these two pictures and asked which one had more people, you will be surprised that 15% of Trump supporters said the Trump picture had more people than the Obama picture.

See the report of that survey here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/01/25/we-asked-people-which-inauguration-crowd-was-bigger-heres-what-they-said/

They had all the excuses in the world why the picture with less people actually has more people despite seeing the pictures side by side (i.e Juxtaposed).

These 15% mooooronic, deluded and die-hard Trump supporters are sick in the head and exactly like crreeetinous fuuuckards like Beverlyjean, Dreynox and co in their deluded support for Penaldo despite all the stats in their front.

They are all sick in the head!!!

Lol, I just went through the link and can clearly see similarities between fanatical Trump supporters and those Pendubious cret1ns . Deliberate misrepresentation of the obvious is the common factor.

Sagamite:
Stop talking crap!!!

Messi is the greatest scorer of his generation!

Look at goals per game, not just goals. Messi will win.

Then if you decide to remove penalties, Penaldo would even be worse off in his rate.

Penaldo's gra-gra to take penalties and yet he does not score at the same rate as Messi.

We are not yet even talking about subjective things like the quality and beauty of the goals.

Oga is your problem that you can't read or you don't understand what you read. Read my arguments ans you will find that my opinions are pro messi. The title of greatest Scorer of all time is objective, based on number of goals. However football in all attributes, Messi is the best ever.

Beverlyjean:
Bruno had more assist thst KDB.... u still don't get it...thats y we say assist is crap...just pass an easy ball and ur team mate scores and its recorded as assist... commanding the midfield like modric , KDB, Zidane , Scholes, Vieira is what we are talking about... modric hardly assists , but he commands the midfield .... xavi and iniesta commanded the midfield for club and Country.... fabregas has the highest assist in a season in the EPL ...but we he as good as Gerrard?? ...I dont know how u guys watch football... top assists usually goes to forwards ...and that's y the top 5 higest assists are forwards....messi , Suarez, Ronaldo ,muller and Ibrahimovic ( i think), thats cos they are usually in the box... the only reason Messi is number one in assist is cos he played corner kicks and long freekicks ...something others don't do... penalties are way more valuable than assists

This is you just trying to argue on one of the many qualities Messi has. I didn't only mention assists. I also mentioned playmaking, dribbles. But you chose to try and discredit the assists he does. Wether you like it or not, assists are part of the stats, they're part of what makes a footballer important. Perez was known for his assists, fabrigas also was known for that. If a player can do so many things, that player should be known as a complete player and not just a complete striker

ThierryJay:
I'm in the middle of it brother and it's going fine. How's ur side holding up too?

it’s going well bro

OSESUNATE:
This is you just trying to argue on one of the many qualities Messi has. I didn't only mention assists. I also mentioned playmaking, dribbles. But you chose to try and discredit the assists he does. Wether you like it or not, assists are part of the stats, they're part of what makes a footballer important. Perez was known for his assists, fabrigas also was known for that. If a player can do so many things, that player should be known as a complete player and not just a complete striker

Assists have no real value.... no one ever cared about it until Messi grand started selling it like gala... the funny thing is that Ronaldo has the highest assist in champions league history, despite not playing long freekicks or corner kicks... but we don't care about that ...what matters is goals . How can u say assists is more valuable than penalties... assists don't guarantee goals ... so to be honest, wud u prefer an assist or a penalty ??

OMNIVIRUS:
Oga is your problem that you can't read or you don't understand what you read. Read my arguments ans you will find that my opinions are pro messi. The title of greatest Scorer of all time is objective, based on number of goals. However football in all attributes, Messi is the best ever.

I know and knew your opinion was Pro-Messi. I was just castigating your for not getting your facts 100% right and allocating prop to the wrong place.

Don't be dashing things to people wrongly; not even to appease their mumus.

Messi is a superior goalscorer to CR7.

The only things CR7 is better at are:

- Taking penalties
- Scoring with headers
- Scoring with national team
- Shot power
- Pace
- Motivating teammates
- Celebrating a goal and denge-posing!

Those are all nit-picking!

When it comes to real things of assessing a player, Messi is better in almost everything including goalscoring.

Beverlyjean:
U are a bloody fool. U child of a wh0re.

You are a creeetinous fuuucktard!

You see the way I dey humliate you?

No be son of wh0res that will not be able to do their homework and talk crap instead?

They present you with the following facts:

Goalscoring
Player A has superior goalscoring rate than Player B (even if you include penalties).

Player A scores more beautiful goals than player B.

Player A has won 6 European Golden Shoes; Player B has won 4 European Golden Shoes.


Technique and Dribbling
Player A has better technique and control of the ball than Player B.

Player A continuously dribbles 3 to 6 players at one go; Player B can only dribble 1 to 3 players at one go.


Playmaking and Vision
Player A can control the game better than Player B.

Player A has more assist rate than Player B.


Set Pieces
Player A is better at freekicks than Player B.

Player B is better at penalties than Player A.


Pace
Player B is faster than Player A.


Individual Achievements
Player A has won 7 Ballon D'Ors; Player B has won 5 Ballon D'Ors.

Player A has been named Player of the Tournament at 1 WC and 2 Continental tournaments (additional 2 more if you add youth tournaments); Player B has never been named Player of the Tournament at any tournaments he has played in.

Player A has been named Man of the Match 20 times in WC and Continental tournaments; Player B has been named Man of the Match only 11 times in WC and Continental tournaments.

Player A has been named Man of the Match 306 times in his club playing career; Player B has been named Man of the Match only 168 times in his club playing career.

When they were playing in the same league, Player A won 'La Liga Best Player' 5 times. Player B only won 'La Liga Best Player' 1 time (if the award had not been discontinued, Player A would have won 2 more in the final 2 years they played in the same league).



Now, even to that stupid habit of listing Cups that TEAMS win and foolishly allocating it as individual achievements:

Team Achievements
Player A has been part of a team that won 1 Continental Cup, 1 Olympic Gold and 1 U-20 WC; Player B has been part of a team that won 1 Continental Cup and 1 Continental League Cup. (Lets ignore Player A has been to WC final).

Player B has been part of a team that won 5 UCLs; Player A has been part of a team that won 4 UCLs.




And then ask a mooooronic, deluded crreetin like you "Beverlyjean, who is the Greatest Player between A and B?"

Creeetin Beverlyjean will say "Player B! Trump won the election; the results were rigged"

Beverlyjean:
Assists have no real value.... no one ever cared about it until Messi grand started selling it like gala... the funny thing is that Ronaldo has the highest assist in champions league history, despite not playing long freekicks or corner kicks... but we don't care about that ...what matters is goals . How can u say assists is more valuable than penalties... assists don't guarantee goals ... so to be honest, wud u prefer an assist or a penalty ??

I never knew champions league is d only league.

Ronaldo was relegated to the bench becos the only thing he had to offer he was flopping in it. Ask yourself why Messi was never benched as Ronaldo during his goal drought last season with psg... You talk of a complete player.

Player making
Dribbles
Assists
Goals are all part of the game and only one man gat all, BEAT THAT!!!

OSESUNATE:
I never knew champions league is d only league.

Ronaldo was relegated to the bench becos the only thing he had to offer he was flopping in it. Ask yourself why Messi was never benched as Ronaldo during his goal drought last season with psg... You talk of a complete player.

Player making
Dribbles
Assists
Goals are all part of the game and only one man gat all, BEAT THAT!!!

Always posting crap...go and play with toddlers...that's where u supposed to b

Beverlyjean:
All time goal scorer , scoring minors... 60% of his goals are from friendly games...while 18% of Ronaldo’s goals are from friendlies

na now I know say na ode I dey follow talk...
even Ronaldo fans know say Ronaldo dey discover new countries like Christopher Columbus every international break.
Andorra
begistan
Atakistan
Macedonia
Malta
kikisteria

even countries wey just get independent 1week ago.
go and sit down.

Sagamite:
You are a creeetinous fuuucktard!

You see the way I dey humliate you?

No be son of wh0res that will not be able to do their homework and talk crap instead?

They present you with the following facts:

Goalscoring
Player A has superior goalscoring rate than Player B (even if you include penalties).

Player A scores more beautiful goals than player B.

Player A has won 6 European Golden Shoes; Player B has won 4 European Golden Shoes.


Technique and Dribbling
Player A has better technique and control of the ball than Player B.

Player A continuously dribbles 3 to 6 players at one go; Player B can only dribble 1 to 3 players at one go.


Playmaking and Vision
Player A can control the game better than Player B.

Player A has more assist rate than Player B.


Set Pieces
Player A is better at freekicks than Player B.

Player B is better at penalties than Player A.


Pace
Player B is faster than Player A.


Individual Achievements
Player A has won 7 Ballon D'Ors; Player B has won 5 Ballon D'Ors.

Player A has been named Player of the Tournament at 1 WC and 2 Continental tournaments (additional 2 more if you add youth tournaments); Player B has never been named Player of the Tournament at any tournaments he has played in.

Player A has been named Man of the Match 20 times in WC and Continental tournaments; Player B has been named Man of the Match only 11 times in WC and Continental tournaments.

Player A has been named Man of the Match 306 times in his club playing career; Player B has been named Man of the Match only 168 times in his club playing career.

When they were playing in the same league, Player A won 'La Liga Best Player' 5 times. Player B only won 'La Liga Best Player' 1 time (if the award had not been discontinued, Player A would have won 2 more in the final 2 years they played in the same league).



Now, even to that stupid habit of listing Cups that TEAMS win and foolishly allocating it as individual achievements:

Team Achievements
Player A has been part of a team that won 1 Continental Cup, 1 Olympic Gold and 1 U-20 WC; Player B has been part of a team that won 1 Continental Cup and 1 Continental League Cup. (Lets ignore Player A has been to WC final).

Player B has been part of a team that won 5 UCLs; Player A has been part of a team that won 4 UCLs.




And then ask a mooooronic, deluded crreetin like you "Beverlyjean, who is the Greatest Player between A and B?"

Creeetin Beverlyjean will say "Player B! Trump won the election; the results were rigged"

Hmmm, this is orgasmic! Baba you brought a nuclear weapon to a sword fight lol

Alabo7978:
True.
I rate your IQ level by which side you weigh on in the Messi and CR7 debate.

if you say Messi, I know you're intelligent and your sense of reasoning is 3D
If you say CR7 ..lol.

True.

Panda7:
comparing a whole continent of europeans whose major occupation is in sport with two people who went away in search of greener pastures? even secondary school students are easily more talented than most first team players just that not everyone have the luxury of moving abroad

Africans and their over bloated ego!!!!.

Only Africans students are talented?

ThierryJay:
Hmmm, this is orgasmic! Baba you brought a nuclear weapon to a sword fight lol

That is my nature.

I tell am say I go mince am.

I lied.

I neutralised am.

Godwin5766:
eeediot

Again,
Seun Mynd44 Dominique justwise.
Rule 2

FireKing:
You are a mumu man.

Seun Mynd44 Dominique justwise
Rule 2

[quote author=Beverlyjean post=117841202]Can no longer argue with facts again?

blueAgent:
Africans and their over bloated ego!!!!.
Only Africans students are talented?

do europeans have secondary school students?

[quote author=OSESUNATE post=117848773][/quote]Argue with a dummy like u... arguing with u is no different from arguing with a toddler... u keep on posting trash ..make up trash from ur head and post...onlyba fool argues with a lunatic...go work on ur IQ first...I have better things to do, that waste my time with a dummy

Panda7:
do europeans have secondary school students?

See you.

Yes they have.

So you mean they go to university from primary school?

blueAgent:
See you.

Yes they have.

So you mean they go to university from primary school?

no they don't,
they sign football contracts at 12years that is after their primary school. they are fairly educated that's why they are war mongers and racist. most of them are poorly educated unlike americans who have the three tiers of education. you can see on tv stadia is where they stalk most often. they don't have basic education to secondary school reason you don't see them in science, art or commercial courses, they rarely forward their education to the university level unless migrants there and they mostly are only interested in public housing and estates.

Panda7:
no they don't,
they sign football contracts at 12years that is after their primary school. they are fairly educated that's why they are war mongers and racist. most of them are poorly educated unlike americans who have the three tiers of education. you can see on tv stadia is where they stalk most often. they don't have basic education to secondary school reason you don't see them in science, art or commercial courses, they rarely forward their education to the university level unless migrants there and they mostly are only interested in public housing and estates.

You are really naive and ignorant.

Just use Google instead exposing yourself.

David Beckham is a chemical engineer as well as a professional footballer.