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Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by Wuppdex: 12:54pm On Nov 07, 2022
Afghanistan comes to mind shocked

Daniel058:
Finally , They are about to leave you behind, Zelensky Be Wise.
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by Sagamite(m): 12:55pm On Nov 07, 2022
texazzpete:
Cant be as bad as Putin. Threw his country into a senseless war that has killed and wounded well over a hundred thousand Russian troops, weakened their economy and permanently damaged relations with their European neighbors.

An incompetent, delusional dictator.
Amsorry!

What options did Putin have?

Sit down and let Ukraine join NATO?
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by Wuppdex: 12:58pm On Nov 07, 2022
Crazy demo = democracy = demonstration of craze = democracy = dem all crazy, choose one Mr Westerner propagating Visa for massa tufiaka !

obedience4:
I am not surprised that you were the goat that posted this, keep dreaming, democracy will and still remains the most popular and best system of government,
Don't give up, them go give you visa last last,
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by Wuppdex: 1:01pm On Nov 07, 2022
Maximum pain i see

NwaMamaIwota:
shatap stop talking nonsense
what do you know
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by brandmix: 1:01pm On Nov 07, 2022
Sagamite:
So what were you expecting Biden to do, that he did not do?

Note: Try and make sense; for your own benefits.
Dude
As impossible as it sounds, this world would have been a safer place with Trump.

Trump walked on the brink of war with North Korea, and the man managed cut a deal.

This war would never have happened and global inflation never had happened if Trump was in power.

NICCUR WOULD HAVE CUT A DEAL BETWEEN RUSSIA & Ukraine

Europe would not be freezing if Biden had not goaded the clown Zelinksy to war in the first place.


#fact
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by Wuppdex: 1:04pm On Nov 07, 2022
That's always their ways, after millions have died and livelihood destroyed, they'll come to the table to negotiate with bottles of champagne and declared it as an historical achievement. Politics is rotten.

fablani:
You see this America, after they pushed him to suicide mission by fighting Russia. Now they have turned around to the way of negotiation.
Why then is the war in the first place when they know they will seek for negotiation after all this monumental loss.

Is always good to use your sense and advise yourself instead of relying on people advice.
Now, is a lose-lose for Ukrainian citizens
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by Sagamite(m): 1:04pm On Nov 07, 2022
brandmix:
Dude
As impossible as it sounds, this world would have been a safer place with Trump.

Trump walked on the brink of war with North Korea, and the man managed cut a deal.

This war would never have happened and global inflation never had happened if Trump was in power.

NICCUR WOULD HAVE CUT A DEAL BETWEEN RUSSIA & Ukraine

Europe would not be freezing if Biden had not goaded the clown Zelinksy to war in the first place.


#fact
What deal did Trump cut with North Korea?
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by Wuppdex: 1:10pm On Nov 07, 2022
Senseless war caused by NATO, Putin only protecting Russia territorial integrity by not wanting NATO in it's backyard, and moreover we the EU are suffering more from the sanctions than Russia. Maybe Cuba or Mexico should allow Russia military base with nuclear weapon on their territories and we'll see how democratic and liberal the USA would applaud such.

texazzpete:
Cant be as bad as Putin. Threw his country into a senseless war that has killed and wounded well over a hundred thousand Russian troops, weakened their economy and permanently damaged relations with their European neighbors.

An incompetent, delusional dictator.
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by engrchykae(m): 1:11pm On Nov 07, 2022
Teaser4:
Most Eastern European countries are poor compared to the West, it’s a no brainer
because the western Europeans are thieves stealing from Africa and the Americas.
Russia didn't involve in robbery which was nicknamed colonialism.
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by Mickykarim: 1:11pm On Nov 07, 2022
Sagamite:
So what were you expecting Biden to do, that he did not do?

Note: Try and make sense; for your own benefits.
Maybe when you tell the world about your own benefit shall I educate you more about the slowpoke you all rigged into the oval office and the mess he made of the office, already.
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by Mickykarim: 1:13pm On Nov 07, 2022
texazzpete:
Cant be as bad as Putin. Threw his country into a senseless war that has killed and wounded well over a hundred thousand Russian troops, weakened their economy and permanently damaged relations with their European neighbors.

An incompetent, delusional dictator.
That is a different ball game, and you can go pick your grouse with the Putin Russia, if you would.

THE SUBJECT MATTER HERE IS THE slowpoke YOU ALL RIGGED INTO THE OVAL OFFICE, WHO HAS MADE A HUGE MESS OF THE THE POWERFUL OFFICE ON THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH.
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by Zane2point4(m): 1:18pm On Nov 07, 2022
Ireportlive:
cool


Only $17 billion dollars wey America donate Bidden don dey complain and seek peace


.
Thats how u know what trump is talking abt all these while and America have realized it,that biden is a weakling,is this how he’s supposed to support taiwan against china? Just 6months war he is tired!!

Na how we kno usless men be this!
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by Sagamite(m): 1:19pm On Nov 07, 2022
Mickykarim:
Maybe when you tell the world about your own benefit shall I educate you more about the slowpoke you all rigged into the oval office and the mess he made of the office, already.
This omugor cannot even type in English.

Wetin you write?

Won o ko ni grammar ni skulu ni? (Dem no teach you grammar for school?)
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by Sagamite(m): 1:20pm On Nov 07, 2022
Mickykarim:
That is a different ball game, and you can go pick your grouse with the Putin Russia, if you would.

THE SUBJECT MATTER HERE IS THE slowpoke YOU ALL RIGGED INTO THE OVAL OFFICE, WHO HAS MADE A HUGE MESS OF THE THE POWERFUL OFFICE ON THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH.
Rigged?

This one na Trump moooron then! grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by RestructureNig1: 1:27pm On Nov 07, 2022
Sirchiboy:
It's better to be a Coward and stay alive than to die trying to be a hero.
Yoruba adage
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by pansophist(m): 1:28pm On Nov 07, 2022
US and Ukraine fail to accept that this is an existential war for Russia. Not the expansionism or imperialism and empire nonsense they yap about. Russia wants a neutral Ukraine, the same way the US enforces the Monroe doctrine in all the western hemisphere and will never tolerate any neighboring countries to be an ally to another superpower such as Russia and China.

For the Russians, it is either all of us are safe, or we are all in trouble. The idea that Russia must withdraw from Ukraine before Zelensky begins negotiation will never happen. Because it would mean the Russians have no leverage that will guarantee that their needs will be met. I suspect that Odesa city is the last pie that would be taken and after that, Ukraine will be a landlocked country and have no value whatsoever to the west, and like Afghanistan, they will dump Ukraine and even hang him as they did with their ally Osama.

The US desperately needs to surround Russia with its bases via the black sea, and the Russians know this well. They will never allow it to happen. Hell will freeze before Russia allow the US to station bases in its backyard, and the Russians will never forgive Putin. Stupid Elensky fails to see that he has no leverage here. If not for the west standing behind him, Ukraine would have lost long ago. He is lucky Putin is not Stalin, I can only imagine what would have become of Ukraine.
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by pansophist(m): 1:39pm On Nov 07, 2022
fablani:
You see this America, after they pushed him to suicide mission by fighting Russia. Now they have turned around to the way of negotiation.
Why then is the war in the first place when they know they will seek for negotiation after all this monumental loss.

Is always good to use your sense and advise yourself instead of relying on people advice.
Now, is a lose-lose for Ukrainian citizens
The war is the confirmation that the west needs to test Russia's backbone. As they say, talk is cheap. Russia has been warning not to let Ukraine into western alliances and is ready for genuine negotiation, but like manipulators, they need to see if you are just barking, or can actually bite. So yes, this is politics for you. They could have just skipped the savagery straight to negotiation, instead of bombings, sanctions, death, and destruction, and still end up at the negotiating table.
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by pansophist(m): 1:49pm On Nov 07, 2022
iamgprince:
I am still asking this same question, why are soldiers throwing away their lives for some useless people who don't care about them all in the name of war.
Because a huge chunk of the global population are idiots that must be led, and can't think for themselves. If I ever become a soldier, I will resign the very day my oga wants me to go fight for a useless cause, even flee the country if necessary. I don't mind dying, but dying as a fool is a tragedy.
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by pansophist(m): 1:54pm On Nov 07, 2022
texazzpete:
Cant be as bad as Putin. Threw his country into a senseless war that has killed and wounded well over a hundred thousand Russian troops, weakened their economy and permanently damaged relations with their European neighbors.

An incompetent, delusional dictator.
100,000 Russian troops dead? you must be high on m.kpuru mmiri.

How can the Russian economy be weakened when the ruble has appreciated impressively after the war? Gaining new territories, forging and strengthening alliances, and guaranteeing that Ukraine will never join nato?

And who cares about a useless neighbor that wants my downfall? A hundred evil doesn't make a right. A hundred evil neighbors don't make for one good neighbor. And just in case you don't know, it is in the interest of the EU to be at peace with Russia. The whole EU combined is less than 30% of Russian territory, The EU is a tiny place. Russia is a giant.
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by pansophist(m): 1:58pm On Nov 07, 2022
porka:
Overrunning Ukraine in days was not a claim made by the Russians themselves. It was the imagination turned mainstream assertion of the western media. They assumed it was going to be the type of American wars in Syria and Afghanistan where Obama ordered the bombing of schools and hospitals.

You would agree that Russia has shown restraint in this conflict; mainly targeting the military, routinely announcing withdrawal from heavy civilian areas and such other measures.

If they had done what Obama did and what the western media expected them to do by cowardly bombing school girls just to claim superpower, the human toll would have been enormous.
Well said. It is not hard to spot someone with a brain well-oiled. Unlike so many western zombies on this platform that will defend the US destroy their village because it makes them feel cool. grin
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by Mickykarim: 2:00pm On Nov 07, 2022
Sagamite:
Rigged?

This one na Trump moooron then! grin grin grin grin grin
I KNEW YOU WILL BRING OUT YOUR DOG NATURE SOONEST. NOT IN ANYWAY DISAPPOINTED, THOUGH.
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by Mickykarim: 2:01pm On Nov 07, 2022
Sagamite:
This omugor cannot even type in English.

Wetin you write?

Won o ko ni grammar ni skulu ni? (Dem no teach you grammar for school?)
WHEN YOU HAVE NOTHING TO PRESENT. WE KNOW YOU GOATS USUALLY RESORT TO PERSONAL ATTACKS

You are damn too empty.
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by Sagamite(m): 2:11pm On Nov 07, 2022
Mickykarim:
WHEN YOU HAVE NOTHING TO PRESENT. WE KNOW YOU GOATS USUALLY RESORT TO PERSONAL ATTACKS

You are damn too empty.
It was a very simple question:

So what were you expecting Biden to do, that he did not do?

And you could not answer.

And you are the one that had something to present and is not empty? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

I asked texazzpete a question because me and him have an old history of debating on NL back in the day. He is a well known name back then.

But you, out of the people here, I specifically picked on you. You know why?

Because I am talented in spotting people with low IQ.

Do a search of my username on NL and go through my history. That is what I am known for. Or even ask texazzpete himself.

I saw your post and I knew you would not be able to defend the cretinous nonsense you wrote. That is why I added to my question "Try and make sense; for your own benefits".

Take it from God himself: Your IQ is low!
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by juman(m): 2:18pm On Nov 07, 2022
American politicians are the worst kind of politicians in first world.

Trump the perennial liar is their boss.
Trump controls thugs like politicians of developing world.

I can mention more than one thousand Nigerian politicians that are better than American politicians.
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by Asj001: 2:21pm On Nov 07, 2022
Abeg, there is no countryin Europe that has 100 million plus populationand only Germany has over 70 million.
uniquetechng:
There is no country in Europe with 70m population that is poor let alone Russia's 160m population.

Do well to mention a country in Europe with over 100m population thats poor, I am waiting.
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by texazzpete(m): 2:22pm On Nov 07, 2022
Sagamite:
Amsorry!

What options did Putin have?

Sit down and let Ukraine join NATO?
Sagamite!

Where have you been? grin cheesy


Back on topic, Ukraine was not going to join NATO. NATO was never going to let them join.
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by Munzy14(m): 2:34pm On Nov 07, 2022
After pushing him to war, you are pushing him to make peace.. grin smh.

Trust America at your own peril..Use and dump moves. lipsrsealed
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by texazzpete(m): 2:38pm On Nov 07, 2022
brandmix:
Ha!

Baba which settlementhuh?
Please name one settlement that was given to Putin and they rejected

Please name just one condition that he rejected!

FYI , my analogy of Zelinksy with Aturo in money heist is very accurate. The man is delusional

Zelinksy started this war by believing he had a chance in hell of joining NATO. Russia’s only demand was guarantee of this not happening. Did Russia demand that Zelinksy step down?

By falling into the trap of US (by Biden not ruling out the possibility of joining) he foolishly expected the world to lunch WW3 because of Ukraine

What manner of arrogance is that?

I bet you, if for any reason Ukraine had joined nato before this war, they would have tried to reclaim Crimea without blinking, knowing fully well that retaliation from Russia would trigger WW3.

Lastly, I just finished a Teams meaning with a colleague in Sweden brov, she is at office and she is using a freaking Blanket because energy levels are being rationed!!!!
You mean like this?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60901024

Zelensky was pushing for a settlement that would guarantee lasting peace for Ukraine and was willing to put neutrality on the table.

Not only did the Russians not listen, they actually went after the TV stations that aired that interview in Russia. And the Russian official position was that Ukraine would have to disband their military and change their leadership. Essentially accept perpetual Russian subjugation. Obviously terms Ukraine could not accept.


This war was started for Putin's greed
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by Sagamite(m): 2:40pm On Nov 07, 2022
texazzpete:
Sagamite!

Where have you been? grin cheesy


Back on topic, Ukraine was not going to join NATO. NATO was never going to let them join.
I have been good, man. Hope you are too. grin

I could respond in two ways:

1) EXACTLY! That makes the leaders of Ukraine iidiots for flirting with it.

2) Then why are they flirting with NATO? Their leaders are iidiots.


Both roads lead to the foolishness of the Ukrianian political class. They let America use them as pawns. Won ti fi aiye won taa Kalo Kalo! (They have used their lives to play gamble!)

They should never have even considered joining NATO.
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by MDK777: 2:45pm On Nov 07, 2022
grin grin grin you see this is what I'm telling this is what I'm saying after USA decided to push the useless Ukraine to fight someone that is more than them now they want to back off nonsense thank you Lord puttin puttin the great man puttin the game changer well done
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by RestructureNig1: 2:59pm On Nov 07, 2022
dreamxhaser:
You define this mumus
Check well the Christians in Nigeria are the most useless people, but always claiming know it all and woke because of the western media that has brainwashed them.

In world politics Muslim are more logical, they put religion aside and go for what benefits them. That's why you would see some Muslim countries supporting US while others don't.
Both Russia and the USA are Christian countries, countries all over the world fight for their interest, whether Christian or Muslim countries, you don't compare individuals to countries.

Muslim individuals around the world also support Muslim countries just because of Islam.
Can you show one Christian country that supports USA against their own interests?

Nigeria is not yet an independent country that's our people are brainwashed by the western media.
Re: Biden ‘Asks Zelensky To Show Willingness For Talks With Putin’ by RestructureNig1: 3:12pm On Nov 07, 2022
Wuppdex:
That's always their ways, after millions have died and livelihood destroyed, they'll come to the table to negotiate with bottles of champagne and declared it as an historical achievement. Politics is rotten.
Just like Ethiopia did
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