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sihamey:
I can see the level of hatred you have for your country called Nigeria in as much as some of the things you said make sense

You are lucky to be in America if you are in UK or other country that you eat from hand to mouth fall of racism will you have mouth to talk all this

I only write FACTS and good thing you're conceding you can't dispute those facts. There's nothing Nigeria is doing for me to elicit hatred.....FACTS FACTS FACTS, that's all I have to give.

I've visited the UK multiple times and all my friends and relatives there are doing fabulously well. Again that's FACTS. One of my young relatives just moved to UK a few months ago, I bet you he will achieve more there in the next decade than his mates will achieve in Nigeria.

Oh and President Buhari thinks UK is better than Nigeria. That's why he lives there

Years ago one of my cousins went missing. We thought he was kidnapped and killed. One day years later he sent us a message he was in an internment camp for illegal immigrants in Germany. Guess what? He's doing fine now, has his papers, is working and is married with kids. Even non-Anglo Germany is not so bad.

Stop spreading LIES.

How can someone now earn pounds while in Nigeria?

IbeOkehie:
I only write FACTS and good thing you're conceding you can't dispute those facts. There's nothing Nigeria is doing for me to elicit hatred.....FACTS FACTS FACTS, that's all I have to give.

I've visited the UK multiple times and all my friends and relatives there are doing fabulously well. Again that's FACTS. One of my young relatives just moved to UK a few months ago, I bet you he will achieve more there in the next decade than his mates will achieve in Nigeria.

Oh and President Buhari thinks UK is better than Nigeria. That's why he lives there

Years ago one of my cousins went missing. We thought he was kidnapped and killed. One day years later he sent us a message he was in an internment camp for illegal immigrants in Germany. Guess what? He's doing fine now, has his papers, is working and is married with kids. Even non-Anglo Germany is not so bad.

Stop spreading LIES.

Stop feeding us with lies here some of us are smarter than you
- In conclusion in what you said is that all your family members are weak who runaway in time of challenges. Allow us to face our fear to conquer Nigeria challenge.

sihamey:
Stop feeding us with lies here some of us are smarter than you
- In conclusion in what you said is that all your family members are weak who runaway in time of challenges. Allow us to face our fear to conquer Nigeria challenge.

Well I've gone out of my way to try and be open. Can you tell us your real name and what you do for a living? Let's measure this strength. I've gotten 6 people out of Nigeria, in the process of doing 4 more, translate that to plane ticket cost alone and tell me who is weak and strong.

I lived in USA for over 15 years before taking my fate in my hands and moving back to Nigeria and creating a business and creating jobs. I was listening to people like you, I was once an enthusiastic fan of Nigeria believe it or not. Now I've LIVED THE REALITY as a rich Nigerian and I know what you're writing here is FALSE.

Only 0.4% of Nigerians earn ₦200K per month, 99.7% of all bank accounts contain less than ₦500K. This means basically ALL Nigerians are "weak" and my stand is they deserve a better life in a more decent society. These statistics also mean there's a VERY HIGH PROBABILITY that you yourself are not earning much in Nigeria. You're among the "weak" and like a typical Nigerian you want to keep everyone down at your level.

Wait till APC wins the next election, Nigeria will be like Somalia, Venezuela and Lebanon. Your CHALLENGE will be even bigger. Good Luck.

IbeOkehie:
Well I've gone out of my way to try and be open. Can you tell us your real name and what you do for a living? Let's measure this strength. I've gotten 6 people out of Nigeria, in the process of doing 4 more, translate that to plane ticket cost alone and tell me who is weak and strong.

I lived in USA for over 15 years before taking my fate in my hands and moving back to Nigeria and creating a business and creating jobs. I was listening to people like you, I was once an enthusiastic fan of Nigeria believe it or not. Now I've LIVED THE REALITY as a rich Nigerian and I know what you're writing here is FALSE.

Only 0.4% of Nigerians earn ₦200K per month, 99.7% of all bank accounts contain less than ₦500K. This means basically ALL Nigerians are "weak" and my stand is they deserve a better life in a more decent society. These statistics also mean there's a VERY HIGH PROBABILITY that you yourself are not earning much in Nigeria. You're among the "weak" and like a typical Nigerian you want to keep everyone down at your level.

Wait till APC wins the next election, Nigeria will be like Somalia, Venezuela and Lebanon. Your CHALLENGE will be even bigger. Good Luck.

yea well, there is also a survey that concluded most Americans do not have up to $1000 in savings...it doesn't make it absolute. You have made your decision and that's great. Let's leave it at that k. You need to stop wishing negative things for people. My own challenge will not be bigger IJN. I'll keep thriving by the Lord's grace.

Treadway:
yea well, there is also a survey that concluded most Americans do not have up to $1000 in savings...it doesn't make it absolute. You have made your decision and that's great. Let's leave it at that k.

But that's 56% right...so over 50% have over $1000 in savings.

Over 95% have clean piped water, 24 hrs electricity and phone with internet, access to decent schools with FREE transport, computers and books and so on. If you can't pay your utilities government will help.

Food that government will even provide for free. There's churches where FAMILIES are fed for free. The public bus transport in my own city....Raleigh NC...is FREE. I actually use it from time to time.

So what exactly does anyone need savings for in the USA?

NEPA don take light today? Is the neighborhood borehole working? I read there's fuel scarcity too.

Enjoy your Nigeria.

IbeOkehie:
But that's 56% right...so over 50% have over $1000 in savings.

Over 95% have clean piped water, 24 hrs electricity and phone with internet, access to decent schools with FREE transport, computers and books and so on. If you can't pay your utilities government will help.

Food that government will even provide for free. There's churches where FAMILIES are fed for free. The public bus transport in my own city....Raleigh NC...is FREE. I actually use it from time to time.

So what exactly does anyone need savings for in the USA?

NEPA don take light today? Is the neighborhood borehole working? I read there's fuel scarcity too.

Enjoy your Nigeria.

44% to be exact.100-56 = 44.
Basic math

IbeOkehie:
You are 100% correct about the Igbo role in the unmaking of Nigeria and our relegation to 2nd Class citizenship and how it happened. As you can tell from my comments, I deal in FACTS. There's nothing shameful about the truth, it only makes you stronger and opens the mind.

Given that REALITY most Igbo are better off in US or Western Europe. I know I'm better off than 99.999% Nigerians of ANY tribe who live in Nigeria.

Thanks.

well i can respect your honesty. you are a honorable man for admitting the truth. And you may be right that most igbo are better off in the US or western europe. i mean you guys are hardworkers and only hardworkers can make it in the west. the hausa man is not known for being a hardworker and neither is the yoruba man ( yorubaman just likes reading and getting degrees ) and so yeah maybe the igboman is more suited to the rigors of the west

Very funny giving false opinion on where you haven't been to .

Gipre:
How can someone now earn pounds while in Nigeria?

many ways. the easiest being open a youtube chanel and find a niche and get monetized. i follow two igbo guys on youtube. one does pranks and the other covers crimes all over africa. those guys make at least 1000 dollars a month from their youtube channels. some youtubers like this girl called maraji make up to 2000 dollars a month and people like brodashaggi those ones may be like 10,000 dollars a month. this is just one way. also remote work etc etc

Treadway:
yea well, there is also a survey that concluded most Americans do not have up to $1000 in savings...it doesn't make it absolute. You have made your decision and that's great. Let's leave it at that k. You need to stop wishing negative things for people. My own challenge will not be bigger IJN. I'll keep thriving by the Lord's grace.

its true. i was having the conversation with a bunch of white people and i expressed shock as to why that can be in the supposed richest country on earth and they explained why it happened to me. very shocking statistics

sukkot:
ignorant ass nigga obviously you dont know what you tambout. alright lets do earnings to car insurance ratio. so they want 4000 a year from me as insurance. this is 80 pounds a week. the average wage in uk is like 400 a week. so at 80 pounds you want a fifth of my salary just for insurance alone. i never pay rent ooooo and my other 20 bills. now here in naija the average wage is like 300 thousand a month ( average not minimum because i used average for uk too ). so the insurance at 5000 a year is 10 naira a week. wage at 300 thousand is 75000 a week. so out of 75000 naira a week they only want 10 naira a week for insurance. thats less than one percent of my wage whereas in uk they want 20 percent of my wages in auto insurance. hope you have been schooled ignant nigga

I doubt you've ever left your village.

Tell me what vehicle you're insuring for 4000k. Folks drive a 2020 SUV with less than 3yrs on their licence and pay less than £500 pa for comprehensive insurance.
Regarding salaries, try and leave your village. There is only so much you can get from hearsay

jedisco:
I doubt you've ever left your village.

Tell me what vehicle you're insuring for 4000k. Folks drive a 2020 SUV with less than 3yrs on their licence and pay less than £500 pa for comprehensive insurance.
Regarding salaries, try and leave your village. There is only so much you can get from hearsay

experience talking here. but you wouldnt know. you google everything

if the average is that low according to the statistics then imagine that the rich ones are the ones taking it to that level so that tells you many earn way below what you posted. but you are not smart enough to know that

sukkot:
freedom, peace of mind, not being heavily taxed to death, you are beside the food you love to eat, no second class citizeshipp based on your skin color, not too many bills, not feeling like an out of place alien, not feeling like a unwanted visitor etc etc. thats what we mean by sweetness

Freedom, peace of mind? Lol.... even Buhari will laugh at you.

Taxes- western societies are structured in a way that the government needs folks to work so they don't have to depend on benefits. In Nigeria, you need to work so you don't die. When you understand that, you'd see why even your leaders will rather pay high tax in a western nation than zero tax in Nigeria. I would rather pay high taxes if that's the cost of development than pay zero and be an undeveloped nation.

Food- If you're foodie, leaving Nigeria would open your senses. Then you'd know that eating Ethiopian, Japanese, spanish, Jamaican menu e.t.c can be a weakly routine. If i want Nigerian food, I know the best is supplied to the west

Bills- expatiatiate... most bills paid are voluntary for good services rendered

Discrimination? Lol... the highest discrimination I've witnessed was as a Nigerian in Nigeria. Below is a picture I took of Nigerians slaughtered in their home state. There were more bodies packed in trucks waiting to be offloaded. Their own governor denied the killing. The shocking thing is that this picture happened in peacetime. I don't want to tell you what is going on there now.

Again, what is the enjoyment you refer to?

sukkot:
experience talking here. but you wouldnt know. you google everything

if the average is that low according to the statistics then imagine that the rich ones are the ones taking it to that level so that tells you many earn way below what you posted. but you are not smart enough to know that

I remember schooling you on another thread where you were spreading bogus claims. At the end of the day, you gave me good gratitude.

I ask, where did you get your £400 average weekly pay from?

jedisco:
Freedom, peace of mind? Lol.... even Buhari will laugh at you.

Taxes- western societies are structured in a way that the government needs folks to work so they don't have to depend on benefits. In Nigeria, you need to work so you don't die. When you understand that, you'd see why even your leaders will rather pay high tax in a western nation than zero tax in Nigeria. I would rather pay high taxes if that's the cost of development than pay zero and be an undeveloped nation.

Food- If you're foodie, leaving Nigeria would open your senses. Then you'd know that eating Ethiopian, Japanese, spanish, Jamaican menu e.t.c can be a weakly routine. If i want Nigerian food, I know the best is supplied to the west

Bills- expatiatiate... most bills paid are voluntary for good services rendered

Discrimination? Lol... the highest discrimination I've witnessed was as a Nigerian in Nigeria. Below is a picture I took of Nigerians slaughtered in their home state. There were more bodies packed in trucks waiting to be offloaded. Their own governor denied the killing. The shocking thing is that this picture happened in peacetime. I don't want to tell you what is going on there now.

Again, what is the enjoyment you refer to?

i already told you what i am enjoying. i know its hard for a brokeass like you to imagine you can live a good life in naija. dangote and adeunga and otedola still live in nigeria. your problem is poverty not nigeria. you just need some money

IbeOkehie:
I don't CLAIM to live in the USA. I'm posting with my real name so no CLAIM there. And you are trying to discourage potential migrants.

Nigeria today is a terrible country to live or visit. That's for the vast majority of people, including the very rich. That's not gullibility
it's reality. I know people in the oil & gas industry in Nigeria earning THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS PER DAY and many have pulled up and left Nigeria and more are planning to do so right now. That's the facts.

There's nothing to argue about. I moved back to Nigeria after many years abroad. I owned a business, I lived well, a luxurious life amid terrible poverty. Riding in my SUV and seeing dead bodies lying on the road for WEEKS. People always begging and badgering me for money. Passing through Airport VIP Lounges with dirty, flooded toilets. Live in a big house where the servants and personal staff are a constant threat because of the sheer income disparity that provokes envy. That's not a country, that's hell.

Statistics is reality. Add up all the gun violence in the USA and I still feel safer here than in Nigeria. I've lived in Baltimore - one of the most violent cities in the USA - and I felt safer there than in Magodo Estate Lagos. This translates to my life expectancy, I'm likely to live longer in the USA than in Nigeria.

Anyway I always tell people that every bad thing that happens in Nigeria also happens in the USA or UK, the difference is the response of the government and civil society. That's the more important aspect of the whole thing. The PUBLIC or GOVERNMENT RESPONSE to adverse events is what instills confidence and that is where Nigeria fails totally. Today in the USA you find police still arresting murderers 30 years after the crime was committed! Get killed or robbed in Nigeria and NOTHING is done. Give it a month and it's forgotten, the bereaved are left to cope with the agony of justice denied in what is supposed to be a country with laws and government.

I repeat - most Nigerians, rich or poor, will have a better standard of living in Anglo Western countries than in Nigeria. I started from ZERO with an illegal job and I made it to the middle class and ANYONE even illegal immigrants are still doing it today. Compared to Nigeria TODAY, for the average person yes the Anglo West is and has always been close to paradise.

My message to Nigerians is to get out of that country if you can. Think about it, President Buhari in 1984 was preaching to Nigerians not to migrate abroad and AT THE SAME TIME all his children were living in Spain and the UK. That is the summary of the situation, don't be a MUGU, your President and his family have lived their lives in the UK and yet he tells you to be proud of Nigeria.

When President Biden moves to Nigeria that will be a signal that things are getting bad here. Until then I'm enjoying my 4th Class citizenship in this heaven. Life is too short abeg, to each his own.

Have a good day!

So make everybody comot for naija abi?
That is be heavy

Western country na your papa land

Itsrm:
Lmao, numbskull.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/10/just-in-99-4-of-bank-accounts-contain-less-than-n500000-ndic/amp/

Maybe these people earning 300k a month keep the money on your bald head

Media’s are liars

IbeOkehie:
Well I've gone out of my way to try and be open. Can you tell us your real name and what you do for a living? Let's measure this strength. I've gotten 6 people out of Nigeria, in the process of doing 4 more, translate that to plane ticket cost alone and tell me who is weak and strong.

I lived in USA for over 15 years before taking my fate in my hands and moving back to Nigeria and creating a business and creating jobs. I was listening to people like you, I was once an enthusiastic fan of Nigeria believe it or not. Now I've LIVED THE REALITY as a rich Nigerian and I know what you're writing here is FALSE.

Only 0.4% of Nigerians earn ₦200K per month, 99.7% of all bank accounts contain less than ₦500K. This means basically ALL Nigerians are "weak" and my stand is they deserve a better life in a more decent society. These statistics also mean there's a VERY HIGH PROBABILITY that you yourself are not earning much in Nigeria. You're among the "weak" and like a typical Nigerian you want to keep everyone down at your level.

Wait till APC wins the next election, Nigeria will be like Somalia, Venezuela and Lebanon Your CHALLENGE will be even bigger. Good Luck.

At bolded so Nigeria better pass some countries already keep deceiving yourself and your family members
Meanwhile, what do you understand by weakness? Person wey Jakpa to abroad and person who visit abroad and come back who is the weak one ? You are calculating flight tickets you spend to Jakpa maybe your last kobo and I spend same flight tickets to visit the same country as I wish who spend pass ?
The truth is that everyone in Nigeria will not Jakpa and I have no right to stop or condemn people who choose to Jakpa but you can not condemned Nigeria in totality and tell all of us to Jakpa with you, sorry I’m not weak
Hope your family members are not among the migrants I saw hustling cigarets at the train stations in Europe or those living homeless In US among the zombies zone
I understand your problem is Buhari you keep mentioning him, you can not stay abroad and choose the right leader for Nigeria. I have my PVC I know my Pooling unit and I MUST VOTE.

Possible1805:
Media’s are liars

I'm sure you've conducted your own independent research. Share the result with us

Ask the noisemaking lout above where he got £400 from... he begins to scurry, digging himself further into a hole.

The thread where I delivered basic education to him (wouldn't surprise if he goes on an editing spree). Not everyone would end up a deportee stuck in the mud

https://www.nairaland.com/7141606/should-leave-job-japa-uk/13

sukkot:
after tax fool. thats the problem with stupid people. you dont think comprehensively . you are here to massage your ego . inferiority complex is worrying you lol. I REMEMBER SCHOOLING YOU <<<< how people with small dick talk. small dick syndrome

Don’t do this in this section, you can argue without name calling

justwise:
Don’t do this in this section, you can argue without name calling

alright bro .no more name calling. how are ya ? its been a while brother. hey brother push this to frontpage na. i owe you one

Make I reach there first

1Sharon:
If they have that much money they may aswell start a business in Nigeria instead of hustling and being out of place in a foreign land.

Talk another story

Thanks for the advice.

sukkot:
There used to be a time wheN the UK was very sweet. i would not even lie to you and that era was the pre- internet days. you see the beauty of the UK back theN was that

1 The world was not yet commercialized. it was strictly about culture and fun aNd having a great time. nobody was worried about money or making lots of it because everything was cheap. and also back in those days you could find like five of us naija guys sharing a flat and it was just fun and party all throughout and like all of us were british citizens back then ( yeah those who used to come pre-internet were mostly british citizens ) so we used to get all kinds of benefits so we didnt really have bills lol. just party life

2 Also what made the UK sweet back then was because there was no internet to tell you what it looked like, so you enjoyed it so much more because its like you are stepping into a world that you have never experienced before. there were no pictures of what to expect and so it wasnt cheapened ( no see finish ). it was all a mystery. now everything is on the internet

3 The caliber of naijas in the uk back then was quality guys and girls. now na every tom dick and harry oooo lol

4 Also the fact that the nigerian market was not open back then and so there was no uk goods in naija and so when we went to naija with our uk clothes everyone looked at us like celebrities. like peoppple would be admiring your uk baffs. of course today there is even no need to go to the uk because everything in the uk can be bought in nigeria now so that aspect of it has also being cheapened. like there are levis and nikes and every shop in the uk in any mall in naija now. like you can be in naija and baff better than someone in the uk now. and so there is no need to go to the uk again. Just buy your baffs in naija and flex

5 Like i said earlier the uk was not commercialized heavily back then but now its all about money. now they can even tax you for the air you breath if they can get away with it. its like the fun has been sucked out of the country and it is now all about survival

6 It has become overpopulated by immigrants from all over the world. its like that unique britishness has being lost.

AND SO BROTHER THE UK WAS ONCE A SWEET PLACE BUT ITS NOW A SHITTY PLACE. LOL. I NEED TO TURN THIS INTO A THREAD LOL AND SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BRO THERE IS NO POINT IN BEING IN THE UK AGAIN IF YOU CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO LIVE WELL IN NAIJA BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS IN NAIJA. EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THE UK IS IN NAIJA EVEN KFC AND DOMINOS AND NIKE AND APPLE AND POSCHE AND SKETCHERS ETC ETC ETC . SO IF YOU CAN DEVISE A WAY TO EARN POUNDS IN NAIJA, ITS THE PLACE TO BE

Onye kwuru that thing??

Shutupthere:
They do and most even leave with 20M and leave jobs that pay 500k plus for the UK . If they are focused they will be better off in 5 years there than they will be in Nigeria. If you have ever invested in a personal biz in naija you will know what it means to play Russian roulette with your hard earned savings

Lol you couldn’t have said that right.