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[quote author=Advocate500 post=118388466][/quote]Which institution?
It is Obi that has abused APGA who made him Governor for 8 years on platter of gold

Shetemi12:
Peter obi knows he won't win that's why he didn't bring up his manifesto til now

Manifesto that has been long released, if you give me your number i'll gladly send it to you. You'll love what is there

MikeofAfrica:
The problem of the igbos is lack of political strategy. Soludo has deliver the bitter truth that I have been pointing out on nairaland.
Peter Obi is better than Atiku and Tinubu but he cannot win 2023 election.
The NE/ NW regions have the highest voters and will determine the winner of the election. Obi cannot win a single state in the two regions hence anyone voting for him should be to encourage him for future elections.

you guys are quick to jump into narrative that suits your opinion, the same soludo that won sympathy votes. oga what Peter is doing is not wrong,I might not be on the same page with him,but I support him with my whole hearts,obi is giving the so called Igbos sense of belonging,he must not win, but the outcome of 2023 will reposition igboman political ideaology.


Any igboman criticizing Peter obi should be seen as enemy of igboland,lack of political participation by the Igbos gave birth to ipob , wether you believe it or not, igboman have been playing second fiddle and political correctness with no results.

iwaeda:
https://www.thecable.ng/breaking-peter-obi-knows-that-he-cant-and-wont-win-says-soludo/

Igbo are not united at all Igbo man getting angry with his own brother.

Continue to dwell in fool's paradise

PrinceOfLagos:
Soludo is in opposition party so we understand his loyalty will be to his party but come 2023, Soludo will bow his head and congratulate his Excellency, Mr Peter Obi on his Election victory

christistruth01:
Wisdom is not the strongest Virtue of those who were jumping for Joy and Celebrating wildly everywhere after one Nut Case Cannibal after eating Akpu and Seasoned Human Heads Egusi Soup washed down with Mkpuru Miri soaked Water, informed them that President Buhari had died in London and Jubril El Sudan was now ruling over them

You are dumb as f**k, it’s a consistent feature of all you who speak against Peter Obi
You all are the product of a poor educational system, people like you were given poor learning and understanding skills so fools like Atiku and Tinubu can continue ruling

That's serious.

Prof Soludo we are not voting Peter Obi because we know he will win. We are voting for the best candidate among others regardless of the outcome of the election. Let the "so called winners" get their votes from other people not people like us.

And soludo knows even in not winning Peter Obi has attain a height that soludo will never ever try. Why the hatred? That's how Buhari came on board and start telling us how bad Goodluck was but at the end he is worse.

christistruth01:
No wonder deranged Cannibals after eating Akpu and Seasoned Human flesh Egusi Soup washed down with Mkpuru MIRI soaked Water have set your Region ablaze

You hate those that give you fatherly advice and love Fraudsters that deceive you

There's no hope of Nigeria bouncing back if we don't get it right this time around. [b][/b]

But Anambra people support themselves, these comments are disturbing. After all Obi is not contesting for Anambra governorship.

PrinceOfLagos:
Soludo is in opposition party so we understand his loyalty will be to his party but come 2023, Soludo will bow his head and congratulate his Excellency, Mr Peter Obi on his Election victory

all of you wey dey deceive this man, giving him presidential hope,I swear all of you needs to be jailed for deceit

Roboto11:
He won the votes.

Abi people no vote?

No be there we see this man?

He won votes like sanwolu won votes in lagos. they were both handpicked governors.

Quite long: about 8-10min reading

I read the actual text of Soludo. There were many problems with his piece but people are bashing him for the wrong reasons. They are misreading the main thrust of his write-up, one in which I—and, incidentally, Peter Obi— wholly agree with. Nevertheless, I'll first address issues with the piece, while showing where it is correct.

Despite claiming that he acknowledged the achievements of all his predecessors he did not try, in his write up, to present any sort of balance on Obi. Rather, he appeared to unearth all possible disagreements with his legacy that he could claim while failing to state any positives.

Particularly worrying would be his claim to certain statistics that directly run counter to what is known Obi achieved. For example, it is well documented that Obi improved the economic and educational metrics of the state such that, as even judged at the time by the economic teams of rival governors, he was voted the best. Thus, if things were really X bad with Obi, they were sort of X² bad with others.

He even presented his efforts (looking out also for corrections and advice to improve) in their then organised forum for accountability and better governance: the first to do so. No other governor agreed to present afterwards, thus, such laudable ongoing series was forced to die.

The metrics of education, power supply (eg, provided transformers widely among other efforts), health ( eg, water supply to primary health centres) and, overall, what was palpably experienced on the ground was clearly better at the end of his tenure than at Obiano's end. Even Obiano's signature projects —eg, the Awka flyovers he engraved with his name and the airport— were started by Obi and funded by Obi's savings: as expected, since Obi's tenure was during a more buoyant oil revenue period.

The insistence of saddling Obi with the moniker of someone who was only interested in hoarding funds is very untrue and beginning to seem a deliberate effort (particularly by an economist). Obi actually spent more on state needs from his revenue than his predecessors and successor. Had he stayed a 3rd term, the airport he had just relocated to northern Anambra would have been constructed by him and those flyovers in Awka (he had already redone Onitsha's roads and the notorious Upper Iweka: all much more than anything Obiano did road-wise). His uniqueness was in trying to conserve where expenditure (especially in cost of governance) was deemed not necessary, with an eye for investment in the future of the children of the state.

In doing so he made some mistakes. I agree with Soludo that a number of the roads Obi built for rural towns and villages were not as durable as those made by Ngige. He seems to have chosen road options that would bear light vehicles transporting farm produce from such places to towns for sale. The breakdown of the major federal roads made most heavy traffic divert to such new and good roads so they degraded faster than planned. Despite this, they lasted 7-10 years.

Someone once told me that the most important issue in building a structure is committing oneself to the maintenance one's initial choice for the structure would demand. Just as he first built those roads out of virtually no roads, he would have been very well capable of maintaining them as due. Unfortunately, the time for their maintenance started occuring largely in the middle of Obiano's time, who simply neglected them to completely fall apart. Despite it being possible that a better option could have been reached, the most important thing here is that Obi had a plan and executed it fairly, a plan that did not deprive his people of their resources in any way. Moreover, his humility helps him learn from substandard situations.

Similarly, I am befuddled by what metric is Soludo claiming the jump in poverty under Obi and a significant shrinking by Obiano's end? I am not an economist but it is only the opposite I experienced in my wide interactions within my state. This could be one of those situations where one users an unnatural metric to extrapolate: "Lies, damned lies, and statistics" is a phrase describing the persuasive power of statistics to bolster weak arguments, "one of the best, and best-known" critiques of applied statistics (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics). A present-day one is that from the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS), which says Nigeria's real Gross Domestic Product (GDP) at basic prices grew by 3.11 per cent in quarter one of 2022 on a year-on-year basis. Does this seems to indicate that we are 3.11% better than last year? Is this what is actually being felt on the ground? Why people are running out of the country faster now than ever before? Bear in mind that even the "almighty" NNPC has not been remitting anything to the states.

The problems with Soludo's piece are why many consider this saga to simply be yet another step the political elite are taking to crush the groundswell threatening to disturb their "business as usual". This is also the main reason Obi keeps travelling around to speak with them: to ensure they, at best, be neutral instead of working assiduously against him. He will need all hands on deck (one way or another) to help reverse the sinking ship that is Nigeria.

Let us not forget that the only reason Obi became governor is the personal conviction of Ojukwu in his person. Ojukwu, after interacting with him, declared him as the man to lead our people forward. I remember him begging Ndi Anambra that he was an old man soon to pass on but that they should do this for him, that one time, because they were really doing it for themselves and their children. Despite all that, it was Ngige's falling out with the PDP godfather, and refusing Abuja's directive to make up with him that enabled Obi to prevail at court. Obi was then impeached by the elite (but saved, again, by the courts) when they could not resurrect their business as usual.

Good arguments, some already given by Soludo, can be given for it being better for Obi to have stayed put in that one party: APGA. However, other good arguments can be made for the opposite, especially for someone hoping to do good at Aso Rock. Why should someone —a real businessman— persist in a venture that had no hope of success, simply because it is an Igbo party, a success that is not supposed to be for the Igbo people alone? In fact, for simply being APGA, most in other parts of the country would not have voted it. Labour is clearly tribe agnostic (for now). It also lacks the bad history of PDP. So, if APGA can only win in Anambra —a state that Soludo even agrees Obi in Labour is likely to win it's presidential votes— contesting on the APGA's platform will be a minus nationwide where it lacks Labour's clean slate. The only place APGA has formidable structure is Anambra. Moreover, Labour connects an aspirant with all public workers and Labour activists nationwide who, with the aggrieved youth, give one a much more credible 3rd way than APGA ever could. Obi then buttressed it all by explicitly telling people not to vote for him if it is simply because he is Igbo.

I also agree, in a large part, with Soludo's assessment of the quest for Igbo presidency and the lack of long-term strategy by Ndi Igbo. This is borne out of the understandable desire to have some from the SE rule in turn with others: very difficult due to not being enshrined by law and low overall voting clout. Unfortunately, we all now have a culture of turn-by-turn chopping or turn-by-turn development through one's town's man at the top. For example, this is how Enugu State now runs. However, as said earlier, saddling Obi with merely a realisation of Igbo rule —however laudable one's as may be— is myopic, stunting and not what he presently stands for. So all that assessment is irrelevant.

I agree with Soludo's knock on Obi's investment of state funds in a business of which he was a member of its board. It raises ethical questions. However, remember who we are talking about and you see its consistency with his erstwhile actions. He is a trader who deals with what he knows, even when trying to act selflessly. He returned to Missionary systems for previously missionary schools because he knew them to run well when they had them. He, seeing some surpluses in state funds, wanted to invest them in structures he had personally experienced and believed were on an upward trajectory, so much so that if the state ended up losing money, he too will lose money because his money was there too. In fact, their value only started to dip following the overall distress businesses were experiencing (more businesses failing) during Obiano's latter years. It first proves that there was more poverty during Obiano and, secondly that Obiano's economic team should have been monitoring the investments to know when to sell them and buy other upwardly mobile shares. Nothing stays permanent.

All the above not withstanding, many Obi supporters are acting like the present day Western "progressives" who do not allow others to have a point of view different from theirs without trying to bury them. That is wrong. Live and let live. Engage their points and, if you both remain with your initial convictions, simply agree to disagree. Even inconceivably worse are those who try to harm Soludo (or anyone else) who simply disagrees that Obi is the right option.

Now to be clear, this is not in any way the fault of Obi. It is a groundswell of frustrations of people seeing their future evaporate and, thus flailing and grasping out for a support. It is well known that one has to be very careful (and, better, trained!) before trying to rescue a drowning man. His desperation may sink you too. See the widespread protest in Iran. Their corruption is no where near ours but see the reactions. If there was even a modicum of opposition leader there, would it not have been false to saddle him with the responsibility of violent protests, simply because he is seen as an alternative to the rulers?

Obi himself has announced to his supporters the need for moderation and respect multiple times (as is well evident in his person). In fact, there is absolutely no evidence anyone can present that shows Obi egging anyone on. So, how can he, in good conscience, be saddled with the responsibility of the actions of drowning men, men being drowned by the effects of successive PDP and APC leaders?

In any case, please let us be civil. Thank you for the patience to read this very long piece.

Phraences:
I also believe he will not win but i prefer to waste my vote on him. Soludo should focus on Anambra and let us see his own achievements after his tenure. The rest of the candidates that are not popular why don’t they step down since they will not win. Why doesn’t Kwakwanso step down since APC and PDP are the major party? Soludo is talking off point.

I will also waste my vote on Peter Obi but the issue is that many people are investing their emotions on Peter Obi particularly in SE.

Due to Obi popularity on social media, they believe he will surely win the election. The danger here is that when Obi losses the election these people will burn down the SE since no one will be able to convince them that the election is free and fair .

We saw these in NW in 2011 after Buhari lost. Soludo might have been rude with some of his comments but he is trying to wake our people to reality to prevent maximum damages in SE after the election.

Advocate500:
you guys are quick to jump into narrative that suits your opinion, the same soludo that won sympathy votes. oga what Peter is doing is not wrong,I might not be on the same page with him,but I support him with my whole hearts,obi is giving the so called Igbos sense of belonging,he must not win, but the outcome of 2023 will reposition igboman political ideaology.


Any igboman criticizing Peter obi should be seen as enemy of igboland,lack of political participation by the Igbos gave birth to ipob , wether you believe it or not, igboman have been playing second fiddle and political correctness with no results.

Peter Obi took the right step by contesting for the President. That is not the issue. The problem is that his approach, the approach of Igbo elites and the approach of his supporters have not been the best.

Before anyone can contest for the Nigeria presidency successfully, he needs to build a political base. Tinubu has done this in SW. Kwankwaso has a strong base in Kano. He almost unseat an incumbent Governor last election. Atiku does not have a strong base in NE but he has network of allies and loyalists across the nation.

Obi tried building a base in Anambra but failed in last two election. The best strategy should have been for him to return to APGA that already has a base in Anambra and is very popular in Imo and Abia.
This will enable him to comfortably win the SE , have APGA Governors across the SE and use this to negogite for the presidency in future elections.

With the Labour party, he is presently floating politically with no Governor sponsoring his campaign while APC has 22 Governors sponsoring her campaign.
The strategy of making the youths the base of his campaign will not work.
The youths can not sponsor his campaign. Moreover, the youths behind Obi are the few educated ones. Majority of the youths particularly in the north do not even know who is Peter Obi! They will still vote either APC or PDP.

MikeofAfrica:
Peter Obi took the right step by contesting for the President. That is not the issue. The problem is that his approach, the approach of Igbo elites and the approach of his supporters have not been the best.

Before anyone can contest for the Nigeria presidency successfully, he needs to build a political base. Tinubu has done this in SW. Kwankwaso has a strong base in Kano. He almost unseat an incumbent Governor last election. Atiku does not have a strong base in NE but he has network of allies and loyalists across the nation.

Obi tried building a base in Anambra but failed in last two election. The best strategy should have been for him to return to APGA that already has a base in Anambra and is very popular in Imo and Abia.
This will enable him to comfortably win the SE , have APGA Governors across the SE and use this to negogite for the presidency in future elections.

With the Labour party, he is presently floating politically with no Governor sponsoring his campaign while APC has 22 Governors sponsoring her campaign.
The strategy of making the youths the base of his campaign will not work.
The youths can not sponsor his campaign. Moreover, the youths behind Obi are the few educated ones. Majority of the youths particularly in the north do not even know who is Peter Obi! They will still vote either APC or PDP.

to start with,I support Peter obi with my full chest,if you understand the game soludo is playing,you won't take him serious,soludo and the apga political is afraid of losing election in anambra state,they are trouble by obi popularity and confused what this might bring to apga in anambra, reason why they have been begging obi to return to apga in order to cage him to their advantage.

Soludo is not interested on Igbo presidency,he is only worried on what will be the faith of apga with the level of acceptance Peter and labour is receiving within anambra and beyond,this are soludo genuine concern not Igbo interest.

Igbo interest is a word used by all politician to deceive the gullible. If I were to be soludo I will concern myself with delivering the devidend of governance to the people of anambra, that is the only thing that can return him to power,not the onye aghala nwanne nonsense mantra.

Advocate500:
to start with,I support Peter obi with my full chest,if you understand the game soludo is playing,you won't take him serious,soludo and the apga political is afraid of losing election in anambra state,they are trouble by obi popularity and confused what this might bring to apga in anambra, reason why they have been begging obi to return to apga in order to cage him to their advantage.

Soludo is not interested on Igbo presidency,he is only worried on what will be the faith of apga with the level of acceptance Peter and labour is receiving within anambra and beyond,this are soludo genuine concern not Igbo interest.

Igbo interest is a word used by all politician to deceive the gullible. If I were to be soludo I will concern myself with delivering the devidend of governance to the people of anambra, that is the only thing that can return him to power,not the onye aghala nwanne nonsense mantra.

I agree with you that some of Soludo comments were made out of jealousy and fear of his political future.

However in every nonsence there must be a sense. I see alot of senses in what he says. If we ignore them because they are coming from an envious man, it will be to the advantage of those that hate the igbo people.

Many of our people are investing alot of emotions into the Peter Obi project. If we fail to make these people realise that Peter Obi is not the favorite to win 2023 election , there will be mayhem in the SE after the election since they will believe that the election was rig against Obi.

That is the first point I extracted from Soludo's long letter. Secondly, Soludo rightly pointed out that Igbo leaders should be presently negotiating with Tinubu and Atiku.

If we fail to negotiate with both men and put all our eggs into the Peter Obi presidency that will require a miracle to happen, we will cry of marginalization in the next four years.

As our Son, We should ensure Peter Obi win the 5 SE states. However we should also try to convince our people to give both Atiku and Tinubu 25% in these states so that we can have rights to make demands if any of them win the election.

Attacking the supporters of Tinubu and Atiku in SE is an act of political foolishness.
Those are some of the wisdoms in Soludo letter which we must not ignore because he is envious of Peter Obi.

MikeofAfrica:
I agree with you that some of Soludo comments were made out of jealousy and fear of his political future.

However in every nonsence there must be a sense. I see alot of senses in what he says. If we ignore them because they are coming from an envious man, it will be to the advantage of those that hate the igbo people.

Many of our people are investing alot of emotions into the Peter Obi project. If we fail to make these people realise that Peter Obi is not the favorite to win 2023 election , there will be mayhem in the SE after the election since they will believe that the election was rig against Obi.

That is the first point I extracted from Soludo's long letter. Secondly, Soludo rightly pointed out that Igbo leaders should be presently negotiating with Tinubu and Atiku.

If we fail to negotiate with both men and put all our eggs into the Peter Obi presidency that will require a miracle to happen, we will cry of marginalization in the next four years.

As our Son, We should ensure Peter Obi win the 5 SE states. However we should also try to convince our people to give both Atiku and Tinubu 25% in these states so that we can have rights to make demands if any of them win the election.

Attacking the supporters of Tinubu and Atiku in SE is an act of political foolishness.
Those are some of the wisdoms in Soludo letter which we must not ignore because he is envious of Peter Obi.

As much as I understand what you are saying,I want you understand that igboman will not succumb to blackmail to support any candidate, in all our years of political correctness and alliance what have we benefited? politics is about negotiation and I believe obi is already doing it better than we have done it since 1999 wether you believe it or not,obi political acceptance has nothing to do with the Igbo people,is burn out of his personal character and endearing personality to the rest of the country.


You and soludo complain about alliance should be channel to our governor's who are elected in different political parties, what are their efforts in ensuring that the Igbos are represented in main stream politics?

Obi started on a neutral platform, APC and PDP are the main stream parties and the Igbos are well represented in those parties.blaming obi or his supporters for the rascality of what our leaders have failed to do including the so called soludo is very funny.

Well,,.....,....

0monnak0da:
Well,,.....,....

Soludo was accurate.