₦airaland Forum

MissLAP:
Nice observations!
But nature has a way of pointing someone to where his wealth was stolen and taken to, life is directed spiritually so please withdraw the statement stating that toms and dicks are migrating the UK.

sukkot:
well i can respect your honesty. you are a honorable man for admitting the truth. And you may be right that most igbo are better off in the US or western europe. i mean you guys are hardworkers and only hardworkers can make it in the west. the hausa man is not known for being a hardworker and neither is the yoruba man ( yorubaman just likes reading and getting degrees ) and so yeah maybe the igboman is more suited to the rigors of the west

sihamey:
They have that much and the borrow POF to Japa thinking they will HAMMER as soon as they arrive UK

IbeOkehie:
The essence of this thread is something I've noticed among the upper class in Nigeria - they don't want other Nigerians to make it out to the UK, USA or other developed countries or they generally don't want other Nigerians to be prosperous.

Talking to some of them, you can tell they would prohibit Nigerians from migrating if they could.
God bless your soul

The UK of today is as enjoyable as any other era. I know a few fresh doctors and nurses and also students and lower class workers who have made a higher standard of living for themselves than they would ever have in Nigeria. Some of them even work illegally.

Warren Buffett has said it plenty times and I know by experience, there's nothing that a rich man can enjoy in the West that a poor man can't get except private jet.

So this is what it has come to. � No wonder Nigeria is the way it is.

IbeOkehie:
The essence of this thread is something I've noticed among the upper class in Nigeria - they don't want other Nigerians to make it out to the UK, USA or other developed countries or they generally don't want other Nigerians to be prosperous.

Talking to some of them, you can tell they would prohibit Nigerians from migrating if they could.


The UK of today is as enjoyable as any other era. I know a few fresh doctors and nurses and also students and lower class workers who have made a higher standard of living for themselves than they would ever have in Nigeria. Some of them even work illegally.

Warren Buffett has said it plenty times and I know by experience, there's nothing that a rich man can enjoy in the West that a poor man can't get except private jet.

So this is what it has come to. � No wonder Nigeria is the way it is.

tommy589:
You are wrong about the Hausa. Laborious work don't make someone rich but using it as a start up to other life improving ventures is what is missing.
The hardest workers I have encountered are the Hausa people

Fearyourcreator:
People no dey die abroad?

Gerrard59:
So, why have you not returned to Nigeria or relocated to a black-dominated country? Na this hypocrisy dey vex me. Person go siddon for abroad dey say "no place like home", "being around blacks is better", "don't come to the abroad", "abroad is lonely" yen yen yen. OK, return back to Nigeria or even Namibia? Mbanu! If you were in, say Botswana, one would say he is practising what he preaches but nooooooooo. You are in Europe!!!!!!!!! Were you not the one complaining that Namibia is too poor for your business to thrive? Don't you want to be around people who look like you?

BTW, have you not seen the level of tribalism being displayed by the so-called people who look like you? Check the front page and TwitterNG to see the love and light shared amongst people who look like you . Also, this racism you people whine about is tiring at this point, considering you are in a prosperous place, whereas your so-called home is the world's poverty capital! The worst form of discrimination is when people who look like tell you to go back to your state whereas both persons are citizens of the country with the highest number of poor people in the world! I would rather have the Mayor of Tokyo tell me to leave Tokyo and return to Nigeria than stay in Lagos and have Obafemi Hamzat tell me to return to my state. Let someone who is rich tell me to leave his place than a fellow poor person do the same.

Until most of you in this section understand that simple economics dictate people's moves, you will keep creating mumbo-jumbo threads upandown. I recall a thread a black Brit lady did on Twitter whining about racism in the UK and looking for countries where blacks are not racially discriminated. Almost all of the suggestions were white dominated countries! No black person mentioned a black-dominated country for this lady and others who might be interested in moving to. Those who suggested African countries were white men obviously mocking blacks for not having a functioning and prosperous country to call theirs. So you see?! People would always put their economic interests FIRST when making a decision.

Again, if the abroad don tire una, book the next available flight to anywhere that is black-dominated, and while at that, let go of your Canadian/British/American/European citizenship.

planetx:
The person have not been following the news with the massive excess deaths now being experienced in the West, some conspiracy theorists are blaming it on the covid vaccine. Whatever it's the real reason it's undeniable people are dropping dead in Western countries massively over the last two years.

femmoy:
There are some things you should keep private,that's not necessary.

jedisco:
To each his own.. there's no almighty formula in life.

But if you're single, bright with good skills, a legal means of migration can open your horizon much larger than you imagine now.
Except your business is likely to grow rapidly, 10-15 years, proper migration abroad might just be the pedestal you need to drive your dreams back home.
350k is good money in naija but after migrating, you'd look at it differently. I was earning more than that before leaving. Looking back, migrating is almost the best decision I made in my life. My monthly savings (after bills) abroad quickly superceded my annual savings in naija. When I wanted to invest back home, things I thought as big before became conquerable.

sukkot:
There used to be a time wheN the UK was very sweet. i would not even lie to you and that era was the pre- internet days. you see the beauty of the UK back theN was that

1 The world was not yet commercialized. it was strictly about culture and fun aNd having a great time. nobody was worried about money or making lots of it because everything was cheap. and also back in those days you could find like five of us naija guys sharing a flat and it was just fun and party all throughout and like all of us were british citizens back then ( yeah those who used to come pre-internet were mostly british citizens ) so we used to get all kinds of benefits so we didnt really have bills lol. just party life

2 Also what made the UK sweet back then was because there was no internet to tell you what it looked like, so you enjoyed it so much more because its like you are stepping into a world that you have never experienced before. there were no pictures of what to expect and so it wasnt cheapened ( no see finish ). it was all a mystery. now everything is on the internet

3 The caliber of naijas in the uk back then was quality guys and girls. now na every tom dick and harry oooo lol

4 Also the fact that the nigerian market was not open back then and so there was no uk goods in naija and so when we went to naija with our uk clothes everyone looked at us like celebrities. like peoppple would be admiring your uk baffs. of course today there is even no need to go to the uk because everything in the uk can be bought in nigeria now so that aspect of it has also being cheapened. like there are levis and nikes and every shop in the uk in any mall in naija now. like you can be in naija and baff better than someone in the uk now. and so there is no need to go to the uk again. Just buy your baffs in naija and flex

5 Like i said earlier the uk was not commercialized heavily back then but now its all about money. now they can even tax you for the air you breath if they can get away with it. its like the fun has been sucked out of the country and it is now all about survival

6 It has become overpopulated by immigrants from all over the world. its like that unique britishness has being lost.

AND SO BROTHER THE UK WAS ONCE A SWEET PLACE BUT ITS NOW A SHITTY PLACE. LOL. I NEED TO TURN THIS INTO A THREAD LOL AND SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BRO THERE IS NO POINT IN BEING IN THE UK AGAIN IF YOU CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO LIVE WELL IN NAIJA BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS IN NAIJA. EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THE UK IS IN NAIJA EVEN KFC AND DOMINOS AND NIKE AND APPLE AND POSCHE AND SKETCHERS ETC ETC ETC . SO IF YOU CAN DEVISE A WAY TO EARN POUNDS IN NAIJA, ITS THE PLACE TO BE

Solofresh2:
please are you heaven4444

sukkot:
no sir

IbeOkehie:
You are 100% correct about the Igbo role in the unmaking of Nigeria and our relegation to 2nd Class citizenship and how it happened. As you can tell from my comments, I deal in FACTS. There's nothing shameful about the truth, it only makes you stronger and opens the mind.

Given that REALITY most Igbo are better off in US or Western Europe. I know I'm better off than 99.999% Nigerians of ANY tribe who live in Nigeria.

Thanks.

Solofresh2:
Your posts looks familiar and I noticed he hasn't posted for a long time
So I want to confirm

sukkot:
i dont even remember the name of my other id

NNTR:
My brother from another mother sukkot, wasnt being balanced in the factual info he succinctly presented.

The country was severely and systematically getting damaged by corruption at alarming and varying levels, and so Nzeogwu & Co, based on Awo's track record and his evident series of first achievements, wanted to turn round the fate and destiny of the country by carrying out the purge and have Awo as Head of State. Unfortunately, all didnt work out perfectly as planned and the rest is history

It wasnt a selfish ambition, rather it was planned for a common good of the country as whole and one that would put in good stead for progress that would allow the country to stand and take its place among committee of other countries

Yeah Ndigbo, have since then be paying for the sins and misadventure

Another thing sukkot, isnt letting on is that, if you fail to planning before coming abroad, as in making sure that all your t(s) are crossed and all your i(s) are dotted, then means, that you plan fail, which essentially, in just a matter of time, is whats going to happen, when things go belly up and pear shaped, as that's how quite a lot end up sleeping rough on park benches, bus shelters, on night buses et cetera.

Gone are the days, where without really regularising yourself, you can disappear into the black economy and still survive. The loopholes that often were exploited each day are blocked and put an end to.

Bottom line, here, really is plan right on to the end and beyond. Everything needs to done above board. No magogo. Abroad is all about systems, institutions, law and order, and talking of working systems and institutions.

There are a thousand and one ways to kerching and legitimately break through. Recent case in point, Deji versus Mayweather. What of Gogglebox Babatunde Aleshe. Tobi Amusan?

Coming broad is not everyone's cup of tea, so on that basis there shouldn't be any dissuasions or discouraging other not to travel. Every one just needs to find their level. Some can hack Naiyja and its craziness, some just want to experience a sane place, where you can wake up 2am in the morning and pop out without cause of fear or favour.

You dont even need to owe a personal car, as cars boku to hire at hourly rates and you even can self drive them. Buses dey repete. Trains and underground linking you to various places dey there. You pinch the wall, and as if like film, Genesis 1:3-4 things happen, as in meaning, literally "Let there be light, and there was light. And God saw there was light and it was good" No generator noise pollution, no diesel fumes. Life expectancy compared to when or if back home is appreciably much better.

If anyone has the opportunity to come to the UK, please do, and if you dont like the place. If its not up to your standards, if not to your expectations, then kindly feel free to return back where you came from

One man's trash, is another man's treasure.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

sukkot:
i dont even remember the name of my other id

NNTR:
Yeah, me too dont. Racking my brain, try to recall what it was

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Solofresh2:
The thing is the guy deal with migration topics like you and what caught my attention more is when you mentioned karma and affliction.
The guy is also an astrologist and I haven't seen him on Nairaland for long now so I wanted to confirm if he opened another Nairaland Id.

Spanishmilf:
It only those without papers who are scared of the police siren that will discourage you about the Uk. Sane way theh tell us canada/usa is not heaven
Yet they won’t want come back home.

NNTR:
Yeah, me too dont remember what the name of your other id is. Racking my brain, try to recall what it was

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

sukkot:
There used to be a time wheN the UK was very sweet. i would not even lie to you and that era was the pre- internet days. you see the beauty of the UK back theN was that

1 The world was not yet commercialized. it was strictly about culture and fun aNd having a great time. nobody was worried about money or making lots of it because everything was cheap. and also back in those days you could find like five of us naija guys sharing a flat and it was just fun and party all throughout and like all of us were british citizens back then ( yeah those who used to come pre-internet were mostly british citizens ) so we used to get all kinds of benefits so we didnt really have bills lol. just party life

2 Also what made the UK sweet back then was because there was no internet to tell you what it looked like, so you enjoyed it so much more because its like you are stepping into a world that you have never experienced before. there were no pictures of what to expect and so it wasnt cheapened ( no see finish ). it was all a mystery. now everything is on the internet

3 The caliber of naijas in the uk back then was quality guys and girls. now na every tom dick and harry oooo lol

4 Also the fact that the nigerian market was not open back then and so there was no uk goods in naija and so when we went to naija with our uk clothes everyone looked at us like celebrities. like peoppple would be admiring your uk baffs. of course today there is even no need to go to the uk because everything in the uk can be bought in nigeria now so that aspect of it has also being cheapened. like there are levis and nikes and every shop in the uk in any mall in naija now. like you can be in naija and baff better than someone in the uk now. and so there is no need to go to the uk again. Just buy your baffs in naija and flex

5 Like i said earlier the uk was not commercialized heavily back then but now its all about money. now they can even tax you for the air you breath if they can get away with it. its like the fun has been sucked out of the country and it is now all about survival

6 It has become overpopulated by immigrants from all over the world. its like that unique britishness has being lost.

AND SO BROTHER THE UK WAS ONCE A SWEET PLACE BUT ITS NOW A SHITTY PLACE. LOL. I NEED TO TURN THIS INTO A THREAD LOL AND SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BRO THERE IS NO POINT IN BEING IN THE UK AGAIN IF YOU CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO LIVE WELL IN NAIJA BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS IN NAIJA. EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THE UK IS IN NAIJA EVEN KFC AND DOMINOS AND NIKE AND APPLE AND POSCHE AND SKETCHERS ETC ETC ETC . SO IF YOU CAN DEVISE A WAY TO EARN POUNDS IN NAIJA, ITS THE PLACE TO BE

vickydevoka:
Just de 5 year run care and support work . Share apartment, use students transportation ( whether I be student or not ) , save as much as u can like your life depends on it. Give yourselve target of 200 million naira above. After 5 years come back. Most Nigeria artist de UK hustle

sukkot:
200 million naira is like 250 thousand pounds. brother that your 5 year plan go turn to 20 year plan

vickydevoka:
That's what Nigerians do. Because you can't save anything with family. Especially in London. UK no be where to say for ever abeg

SugarGirl44:
It may as well be a 9th world country for all I care, in fact more people from all the countries colonized by them should move there.
Ko kanye.

sukkot:
UK no be where to stay forever but also UK no be place where you go save 250 thousand pounds in 5 years. thats 50 thousand pounds saved in a year. unless na drugs you dey do successfully for there

sokeril:
Nurses wages are so damn low.
Majority are on band 5 and collect just 1600 after tax per month...average of just 20k-24k per year post tax.
Like I was just reading the lamentations of UK Nurses on Twitter and just shaking my head.