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advocatejare:
You forgot to add that he is coming as a just ruler to put an end to the evil muhammad left on earth and to also abolish the evil Jizya tax that the one made victorious in terror (Muhammad) imposed on the Jews and the Christians!

Sahih al-Bukhari 2476
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "The Hour will not be established until the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you as a just ruler, he will break the cross, kill the pigs, and abolish the Jizya tax. Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it (as charitable gifts).

ANTIlSLAM:
AntiChristian kilode, you look away nii? you don't like that hadith abi

advocatejare:
Lukuluku69 and AntiChristian are hypocrites of cherry picking

Lukuluku69:
Lukuluku69 and his entire generation are moroun

advocatejare:
Lukuluku69 and AntiChristian are hypocrites of cherry picking

ANTIlSLAM:
I love as you are exposing them all

Lukuluku69:
Editor in chief keep editing my posts. I am not surprised na so una Jewish Lord's dey take edit God's Word to their damnation.

Kwantinue.

Lukuluku69:
And the simple asnwer is despite working for me, he is still my son! He will never be my servant.

sonmvayina:
Nobody died ...

Read 10-12

AntiChristian:
So you've seen that you're mistaken right?

Yeah! We believe in all Prophets and the respective revelations given to them for their people. However, none of the previous scriptures was preserved. Only the Qur'an is Preserved!

So where is in the Bible did Jesus called himself a servant of God?

sonmvayina:
God said over and over that he hates human sacrifice. In Isaiah 53, nobody died and there is no resurrection anywhere...
"He shall see his offspring

He shall prolong his days...the will of the lord shall prosper in his hands..

I told you to read it in context, you keep isolating text...

The suffering servant is Israel/jacob

Lukuluku69:
Padre, apart from the Ten Commandments, there are other Laws God gave thru Moses to the Israelites. These. laws bothers on Commerce, inehritance, conflict resolutions, Marriage, in fact all facets of Life and livings. Laws befitting a people God chooses as a beacon for other Nations to see and aspire to be like.

For space, I won't be able to enumerate them here but you are a Christian, find time and read the Old Testament and see for yourself.

Aside these Laws, their are Prophecies by Israelites Prophets about what the future holds. Their backsliding into idolatry and changing the Laws to favour a sections of the society and the likes.

Remember Jesus railing about Traditions of Men? They left what was ordained and follow what their elders says. That in itself is idolatry.

If you really want to know how messed up the Jewish hierarchy was, read Jeremiah and Isaiah.

They did not stopped at changing the Laws, they also tampered with Prophecies. They change names, change places just to make the Prophecies obscure and unintelligent to sincere seeker after God's Kingdom.

Jesus Christ also gave a parable about the Dog in the Manger. Who won't eat the Hays but will prevent the Sheep and cows from accessing the hays. That was the Jewish hierarchy at best.

So, coming back to the Book of Isaiah, I can show you where they changed names, where they changed places just to make Prophecies obscure for people. To really know this, that depends on your level of knowledge and how close or open minded you are.

As for your refrain about who is that Servant that Isaiah talked about, it is not Jesus. You guys claimed he is God and so he can't be his own servant. Also, that isaiah (53) I think is not made up of just one verse. Why not let us look at it together?

Steep:
what has all these got to do with Isaiah prophecy?
How did you know that the book of Isaiah is corrupted explain?

Lukuluku69:
Padre, do have a nice life.

Adios!

Steep:
finally ran away.

Steep:
Where in the bible did Jesus call himself son of Mary?

Steep:
How come in Isaiah 53 the suffering servants is described as a sacrifice for the Jewish nation?

Lukuluku69:
From you?

You are having a laugh.

Lol.

There is no Christian alive that will make me run when we talk about the Bible. None.

But I will run if we go round and round in circles. That I guarantee you. When we are not making any headway and instead kept repeating the same thing over and over. Yeah I will leave.

Do you remember how many time you gat me posting that attachment/quoting Jeremiah Chapter 8 Vs 8/9? More than 6 times. I don't have such Patience.

So, Padre, Adios

AntiChristian:
Of what importance is that to the "Jesus is servant of God" Discussion we have?

So where is in the Bible did Jesus called himself a servant of God?

Steep:
If you can answer me then I will also answer you.
Where in the bible did Jesus call himself son of Mary?

sonmvayina:
It is not for the Jewish nation..

He was suffering from what was done to him...

You need to check their history and see their suffering..

AntiChristian:
I am not a Bible reader! Jesus never wrote one verse of the Bible. Most of the Bible verses were written by some third person!

Steep:
Since you are not a bible reader why saying what you have no knowledge of?

There Jessus does not need to say everything because there were prophets who wrote things concerning him.

Steep:
You are going round in circles because you are avoiding questions.
So because Jeremiah described the pen of the scribes as lying pens means they corrupted the scriptures?
Do you even know what is context?
Even if they corrupted the Torah, are you aware that other godly people had copies of the Torah eg Daniel

Also Do you also know that the book of Isaiah is not part of the Torah?

You jumped to a different topic entirely from the book of Isaiah you jumped to the Torah.

That verse does not mean they corrupted the Torah rather they began to write their own which is not part of both the books of the prophets and the Torah.

AntiChristian:
That means Jesus never called himself a servant of God in the Bible, so you are a liar!

Steep:
Did you even read the passage?
Who are the people of God, is it not Israel?

Isaiah 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

You can see that it is because of God's people, Israel that the suffering servant was was stricken.


Israel suffered because of their sins but the suffering servants suffered because of the sins of others, therefore the suffering servant is not Israel.

Steep:
Where did I essay Jesus called himself a servant of God? Moses never called himself a servant of God also.

AntiChristian:
You said Jesus is the servant of God Isaiah was talking about but Jesus was not called servant throughout his biblical life!

sonmvayina:
Read a better translation.

Steep:
translation again confirms that the suffering servant was a sacrifice for sin.
You have no excuse.

Steep:
Yes Jesus was a servant of God, I didn't tell you Jesus said he was a servant of God.
@ bold but Jesus was called a prophet was he not? And is a prophet not a servant of God?