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pansophist:
Don't forget that the number one military strategy book written thousand of years ago was written by the Chinese themselves.

A quote from the book "the art of war" Where Sun Tzu wrote that "if you know your enemy and you know yourself, you don't have to fear the result of a thousand war".

I follow China closely, and I can beat my chest with full confidence that the rubbish the West tried with Russia, they will never try it with China. China is a different animal. China understands the West even more than they understand themselves.

The era they could destroy China has passed, and it was between 1949 to the 1980's where they implement a complete blockade and embargo on China. China was not even recognized as a country then by UN.

China lost over thirty millions of their citizens due to starvation, and even borrow from countries like Pakistan, but China persevered and built their systems completely outside western dependence. China is the true embodiment of the saying that if life throw you lemons, you make a lemonade.


The reason why the US seized Russia asset is because few US companies have money and business in Russia. If they try it in China, they will crumble. US companies depends on China for profit (eg Tesla, apple), and their investment in China is in the trillions. China will just seize it.

China has the largest internal market in the world. The whole West combined are not up to a billion people, but China is closely 1.5B people. Only an idiot business man will offend the ccp and get expelled from the world largest market.

Also, China in 2025 will be independent in most crucial tech, and sanctioning them will water off a ducks back. Bro just chill and relax. This decade will be an interesting one.


As for Taiwan, China only has two red lines that must not be crossed, which are building lf foreign military bases and declaration of independence. As far the status quo remains, China will not invade and will prefer peaceful reunification.

Okay ooo.

Let’s see how everything goes

seunny4lif:
Clearly you don’t know anything about Syria war, cos if you do then you will know that Gulf nations supported and financed the regime change in Syria just like they did in Libya but this time around it failed in Syria due to Russia and Iran.
Qatar alone spend billions training and arming Syria rebels.

Just do research

But your recent post you said Saudi is supporting Syria

pansophist:
Too much ignorance and arrogance in one post, a deadly combination. Democracy is also the source of colonialism, imperialism, slavery, military industrial complex, atomic bombs, porn, only fans, so what's your point?

You can't exalt democracy, while ignoring it's evils. Most importantly, democracy has been propped up by putting other systems down, so it's inaccurate to say with full chest that it's the best system.

Democracy is like that thief that is a pastor, telling everyone that pastoral jobs is the best meanwhile all your wealth is stolen from your members in form of tithes, offerings, testimony etc.

As for the best systems for Nigeria, well, I won't put out any, because I recognize the limitations of my knowledge in that subject, but for you to say that is only democracy makes me wants to invoke amadioha.

And oh, the largest economy right now (China)is not democracy. And most importantly for all human history (except the last three hundred years), the largest economies and centre of the globe was not the West. It's India and China.

So judging the present as a true representation of human civilisation is wrong.

You write like a kid, so those Vice's you wrote, porn ,imperialism, slavery,etc so they are only peculiar to countries practicing democracy abi??
So China that doesn't practice democracy, they ain't colonialism, please checks out how XI is trying to curtain China Muslim minority.when over a million Uighur Chinese Muslim are forced into concentration camps, I guess democracy cause it right.
Or is it' the North Korea regime, or the repressive regime in Saudi Arabia, or the in Iran, or Cuba, or in Belarus, or in Thailand.. The atrocities cause in this countries on citizens can not be overemphasized.
So funny you said that India and China were the center of the world ;which year here was China admitted into the WTO, in the year 1947 that the British partition its British India colony and created the India state and the Pakistan State..I wonder were your statement is coming from that India and China bar the last 300 year's were the center of the world.

The USA still remains the largest economy by GDP

So my brother, democracy is Still the best system of government..

emmaodet:
Either regional government or full military rule.

Give me example of countries practicing regional government and military rule that are doing good

obedience4:
But your recent post you said Saudi is supporting Syria

Can’t you read again
Saudi raised up Syria government flag, after the regime changed failed.
Who is the leader of gulf nations?
Pls, try to read and understand, comments before jumping to your own conclusion

seunny4lif:
Can’t you read again
Saudi raised up Syria government flag, after the regime changed failed.
Who is the leader of gulf nations?
Pls, try to read and understand, comments before jumping to your own conclusion

Lol, show us when the Saudi arise the flag with proofs.
Please the Saudi kingdom and it neighbours were never interested in a regime changed in Syria
They never intervened, the only time they intervene was in the Yemen,

obedience4:
You write like a kid, so those Vice's you wrote, porn ,imperialism, slavery,etc so they are only peculiar to countries practicing democracy abi?? So China that doesn't practice democracy, they ain't colonialism, please checks out how XI is trying to curtain China Muslim minority.when over a million Uighur Chinese Muslim are forced into concentration camps, I guess democracy cause it right. Or is it' the North Korea regime, or the repressive regime in Saudi Arabia, or the in Iran, or Cuba, or in Belarus, or in Thailand.. The atrocities cause in this countries on citizens can not be overemphasized.

And you write like a brainwashed zombie. There are no differences between you and other western sheep. No originality in thoughts whatsoever, same brainwashing in different bodies. Regurgitating the same nonsense over and over again. I can replace you with Mr. Dumbo (aka Karnice600 ) and he would still sound like you. Having said that, let me address your point.

I am not saying other systems are perfect. I am only saying that democracy is not the unicorn that you are painting it to be. So since you exalt democracy so high, then all any critic can do is punch holes in your arguments, which I did. About the Uighur concentration camp thing, that is nonsense as well, and that proves your brainwashing even more. It is the same lie the US lied when they said Iraq has WMD, to use it as a pretext to invade the country.

Now answer this question, and I hope in your attempt to answer it, the truth will reveal itself. If the Chinese massacred the Uighurs in millions, why did their population increase over the last forty years, not decrease? why are there Uighurs exempted from the mandatory one-child policy? Why is their language written on the Chinese currency and enjoy even more rights than the majority of Han Chinese people? Do you know that Uighurs are military people, celebrities, and politicians and can be anything like every Chinese person?

Furthermore, apart from western media, which other major media powerhouse confirmed the false accusations to be true? why are we not seeing millions of Uighurs refugees escaping China to neighboring countries such as Kazakhstan? Ukraine was is an example, millions flooded Europe, so why not the Uighurs? Have you gone to youtube and watched independent YouTubers showing their day-to-day life in Xinjiang?

Also, the accusations of the Uighurs genocide have not been accepted by the international community through the UN, it's just only the US laying those accusations. Are you so dumb that you can't think for yourself? Do you know that the Muslim world carried out their own investigations in the region and wrote jointly that there was no genocide and even applauded the Chinese treatment of minorities?

Have you been to a church or stadium with about 30,000 seats? Imagine the crowd. Now multiply that by maybe 100, so how possible can China imprison millions of people without the world knowing and no mass refugees escape? Imagine the thousands (if not millions) of people needed to imprison millions of Uighurs, and the infrastructure as well.

Between the US and China, who has killed more Muslims? WHich country blew up Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq, at war with Iran, and Libya, and created bad stereotypes of Muslims such as seeing Muslims as terrorists? Is it China or the US? So how can the US now care about Muslims when it didn't care about them before, but bomb their countries and kill millions?

A few days before Russia invaded Ukraine, the west through their satellite showed footage of Russian armies gathered at the Ukrainian border, with modern technologies, even things done underground can be fished out. Why are we not seeing such clips? Why is it just a bunch of highly edited images that can be taken anywhere and doctored in photoshop?

I know I wrote so many things here that you do not know, but if you need me to show proof of any, please let me know. I can support with facts everything I wrote here. Going to corporate media to look for truth is like looking for love in a brothel, you may find it, but it comes with a price, and that price is brainwashing. Emancipate yourself

obedience4:
So funny you said that India and China were the center of the world ;which year here was China admitted into the WTO, in the year 1947 that the British partition its British India colony and created the India state and the Pakistan State..I wonder were your statement is coming from that India and China bar the last 300 year's were the center of the world. The USA still remains the largest economy by GDP. So my brother, democracy is Still the best system of government.

From roughly 200 B.C.E. to 1850 C.E., China was the richest civilization (or country in present times) on earth. I intentionally choose to paste a western source from the university of Columbia, US, so you should know that I am not making it up. I won't be surprised if you didn't read it and help your brainwashing.

http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/main_pop/kpct/kp_1450-1750.htm

China lost its glory when your democratic masters invaded, killed, destroyed, and colonized China for a century. This is known as the ''century of humiliation) or 百年国耻 in Chinese. Right now, China has returned to its rightful place. So the wealthy China of today is not an exception, it is the norm since documented human records. China is so wealthy, that they created the ''wall of China'' to keep others out, unlike the west that sailed globally to enslave, kill, colonize and steal from others.

WTO, UN, ICC, Interpol, etc are all arms of western imperialism. It's like saying a farmer that has one million cows is not a wealthy man, because he doesn't have dollars. Your thinking is very western, controlled, and thus, limited in the scope of reasoning. Russia is banned from the swift, no more earnings in dollars, does it mean Nigeria is richer than Russia now? Your thinking is like that of a conquered man, you judge your worth through the eyes of the dominant system.

If China is not a threat and is irrelevant, then why is the US-led west doing its best to instigate a war with Taiwan to slow China's growth? it should be the opposite right? and by GDP, a proper measurement of a wealthy country is PPP, I am sure you do not even know the difference. Also, the US GDP is mostly amplified by financial speculations, unlike China whose GDP is based on industries, and real products, hence, they are the global factory and have over 150 countries have them (China) as their main trading partner. What does that tell you?

Why are all countries right now, moving towards China's sphere of influence? A few days ago, the Saudis just signed at least 30 different deals with the Chinese and accepted to only trade their oil with China in yuan, a fatal blow to the US empire. This was what Gadaffi and Hussein did, and was killed and destroyed. Whether you like it or not, evil doesn't last. Like Babylon and other evil empires, they will fade off.

Love the US all you want, but call a spade a spade. I am writing this not because I hate the west, I live in the west myself, but the truth should be the truth whether we like it or not. If you blindly support western evils because you like them, then you are not different from the herdsmen who blow up their country men.

pansophist:
From roughly 200 B.C.E. to 1850 C.E., China was the richest civilization (or country in present times) on earth. I intentionally choose to paste a western source from the university of Columbia, US, so you should know that I am not making it up. I won't be surprised if you didn't read it and help your brainwashing.

http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/main_pop/kpct/kp_1450-1750.htm

China lost its glory when your democratic masters invaded, killed, destroyed, and colonized China for a century. This is known as the ''century of humiliation) or 百年国耻 in Chinese. Right now, China has returned to its rightful place. So the wealthy China of today is not an exception, it is the norm since documented human records. China is so wealthy, that they created the ''wall of China'' to keep others out, unlike the west that sailed globally to enslave, kill, colonize and steal from others.

WTO, UN, ICC, Interpol, etc are all arms of western imperialism. It's like saying a farmer that has one million cows is not a wealthy man, because he doesn't have dollars. Your thinking is very western, controlled, and thus, limited in the scope of reasoning. Russia is banned from the swift, no more earnings in dollars, does it mean Nigeria is richer than Russia now? Your thinking is like that of a conquered man, you judge your worth through the eyes of the dominant system.

If China is not a threat and is irrelevant, then why is the US-led west doing its best to instigate a war with Taiwan to slow China's growth? it should be the opposite right? and by GDP, a proper measurement of a wealthy country is PPP, I am sure you do not even know the difference. Also, the US GDP is mostly amplified by financial speculations, unlike China whose GDP is based on industries, and real products, hence, they are the global factory and have over 150 countries have them (China) as their main trading partner. What does that tell you?

Why are all countries right now, moving towards China's sphere of influence? A few days ago, the Saudis just signed at least 30 different deals with the Chinese and accepted to only trade their oil with China in yuan, a fatal blow to the US empire. This was what Gadaffi and Hussein did, and was killed and destroyed. Whether you like it or not, evil doesn't last. Like Babylon and other evil empires, they will fade off.

Love the US all you want, but call a spade a spade. I am writing this not because I hate the west, I live in the west myself, but the truth should be the truth whether we like it or not. If you blindly support western evils because you like them, then you are not different from the herdsmen who blow up their country men.

Nwanne, make hire mic? Or I should be coming and going?


Truth really hurts, but the best thing about it is no matter how people try to run from it, it will still be around them. Thank you for educating me and them once more.

pansophist:
And you write like a brainwashed zombie. There are no differences between you and other western sheep. No originality in thoughts whatsoever, same brainwashing in different bodies. Regurgitating the same nonsense over and over again. I can replace you with Mr. Dumbo (aka Karnice600 ) and he would still sound like you. Having said that, let me address your point.

I am not saying other systems are perfect. I am only saying that democracy is not the unicorn that you are painting it to be. So since you exalt democracy so high, then all any critic can do is punch holes in your arguments, which I did. About the Uighur concentration camp thing, that is nonsense as well, and that proves your brainwashing even more. It is the same lie the US lied when they said Iraq has WMD, to use it as a pretext to invade the country.

Now answer this question, and I hope in your attempt to answer it, the truth will reveal itself. If the Chinese massacred the Uighurs in millions, why did their population increase over the last forty years, not decrease? why are there Uighurs exempted from the mandatory one-child policy? Why is their language written on the Chinese currency and enjoy even more rights than the majority of Han Chinese people? Do you know that Uighurs are military people, celebrities, and politicians and can be anything like every Chinese person?

Furthermore, apart from western media, which other major media powerhouse confirmed the false accusations to be true? why are we not seeing millions of Uighurs refugees escaping China to neighboring countries such as Kazakhstan? Ukraine was is an example, millions flooded Europe, so why not the Uighurs? Have you gone to youtube and watched independent YouTubers showing their day-to-day life in Xinjiang?

Also, the accusations of the Uighurs genocide have not been accepted by the international community through the UN, it's just only the US laying those accusations. Are you so dumb that you can't think for yourself? Do you know that the Muslim world carried out their own investigations in the region and wrote jointly that there was no genocide and even applauded the Chinese treatment of minorities?

Have you been to a church or stadium with about 30,000 seats? Imagine the crowd. Now multiply that by maybe 100, so how possible can China imprison millions of people without the world knowing and no mass refugees escape? Imagine the thousands (if not millions) of people needed to imprison millions of Uighurs, and the infrastructure as well.

Between the US and China, who has killed more Muslims? WHich country blew up Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq, at war with Iran, and Libya, and created bad stereotypes of Muslims such as seeing Muslims as terrorists? Is it China or the US? So how can the US now care about Muslims when it didn't care about them before, but bomb their countries and kill millions?

A few days before Russia invaded Ukraine, the west through their satellite showed footage of Russian armies gathered at the Ukrainian border, with modern technologies, even things done underground can be fished out. Why are we not seeing such clips? Why is it just a bunch of highly edited images that can be taken anywhere and doctored in photoshop?

I know I wrote so many things here that you do not know, but if you need me to show proof of any, please let me know. I can support with facts everything I wrote here. Going to corporate media to look for truth is like looking for love in a brothel, you may find it, but it comes with a price, and that price is brainwashing. Emancipate yourself

Facts on facts

Masterviolence:
The truth is the U.S made a grave mistake in weaponizing the u.s. dollars and swift in sanctions against Russia
They've been doing it against smaller countries but Russia is no small country
Many of you don't know why brics was created.
The reign of the u.s. dollars global status is about to come to an end

The biggest mistake of the century. And they must pay the price for it.

pansophist:
And you write like a brainwashed zombie. There are no differences between you and other western sheep. No originality in thoughts whatsoever, same brainwashing in different bodies. Regurgitating the same nonsense over and over again. I can replace you with Mr. Dumbo (aka Karnice600 ) and he would still sound like you. Having said that, let me address your point.

I am not saying other systems are perfect. I am only saying that democracy is not the unicorn that you are painting it to be. So since you exalt democracy so high, then all any critic can do is punch holes in your arguments, which I did. About the Uighur concentration camp thing, that is nonsense as well, and that proves your brainwashing even more. It is the same lie the US lied when they said Iraq has WMD, to use it as a pretext to invade the country.

Now answer this question, and I hope in your attempt to answer it, the truth will reveal itself. If the Chinese massacred the Uighurs in millions, why did their population increase over the last forty years, not decrease? why are there Uighurs exempted from the mandatory one-child policy? Why is their language written on the Chinese currency and enjoy even more rights than the majority of Han Chinese people? Do you know that Uighurs are military people, celebrities, and politicians and can be anything like every Chinese person?

Furthermore, apart from western media, which other major media powerhouse confirmed the false accusations to be true? why are we not seeing millions of Uighurs refugees escaping China to neighboring countries such as Kazakhstan? Ukraine was is an example, millions flooded Europe, so why not the Uighurs? Have you gone to youtube and watched independent YouTubers showing their day-to-day life in Xinjiang?

Also, the accusations of the Uighurs genocide have not been accepted by the international community through the UN, it's just only the US laying those accusations. Are you so dumb that you can't think for yourself? Do you know that the Muslim world carried out their own investigations in the region and wrote jointly that there was no genocide and even applauded the Chinese treatment of minorities?

Have you been to a church or stadium with about 30,000 seats? Imagine the crowd. Now multiply that by maybe 100, so how possible can China imprison millions of people without the world knowing and no mass refugees escape? Imagine the thousands (if not millions) of people needed to imprison millions of Uighurs, and the infrastructure as well.

Between the US and China, who has killed more Muslims? WHich country blew up Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq, at war with Iran, and Libya, and created bad stereotypes of Muslims such as seeing Muslims as terrorists? Is it China or the US? So how can the US now care about Muslims when it didn't care about them before, but bomb their countries and kill millions?

A few days before Russia invaded Ukraine, the west through their satellite showed footage of Russian armies gathered at the Ukrainian border, with modern technologies, even things done underground can be fished out. Why are we not seeing such clips? Why is it just a bunch of highly edited images that can be taken anywhere and doctored in photoshop?

I know I wrote so many things here that you do not know, but if you need me to show proof of any, please let me know. I can support with facts everything I wrote here. Going to corporate media to look for truth is like looking for love in a brothel, you may find it, but it comes with a price, and that price is brainwashing. Emancipate yourself

You are writing long epistles
I can't engaged a communist child like you.
Thousands and thousands of evidence are there to back up the systematic persecution and imprisonment of the ethnic Uighurs
But you are blinded by hate..
During ww2 the Nazi concentration camps were hidden from the world and the crimes and killings were hidden, if not for the liberation by the Allies many of such camps Wii have been hidden and not know.
For your information the reasons why the UN have failed to pass and agree over the persecution of the Uighurs tribe is that china a permanent member of the security council have veto it.
Please stop been a fool it is glaring in the eyes of everyone they are writing and video evidence of China crimes, and if you are also wise as you claim you are you will know that the Chinese media space is censored, a simple search on the Uighurs in China won't bring any result..
I don't have time to trade words with you

Below is the link from the UN report on the Uighurs

https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/08/1125932
Read and learn no be by to they post long epistles.

pansophist:
From roughly 200 B.C.E. to 1850 C.E., China was the richest civilization (or country in present times) on earth. I intentionally choose to paste a western source from the university of Columbia, US, so you should know that I am not making it up. I won't be surprised if you didn't read it and help your brainwashing.

http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/main_pop/kpct/kp_1450-1750.htm

China lost its glory when your democratic masters invaded, killed, destroyed, and colonized China for a century. This is known as the ''century of humiliation) or 百年国耻 in Chinese. Right now, China has returned to its rightful place. So the wealthy China of today is not an exception, it is the norm since documented human records. China is so wealthy, that they created the ''wall of China'' to keep others out, unlike the west that sailed globally to enslave, kill, colonize and steal from others.

WTO, UN, ICC, Interpol, etc are all arms of western imperialism. It's like saying a farmer that has one million cows is not a wealthy man, because he doesn't have dollars. Your thinking is very western, controlled, and thus, limited in the scope of reasoning. Russia is banned from the swift, no more earnings in dollars, does it mean Nigeria is richer than Russia now? Your thinking is like that of a conquered man, you judge your worth through the eyes of the dominant system.

If China is not a threat and is irrelevant, then why is the US-led west doing its best to instigate a war with Taiwan to slow China's growth? it should be the opposite right? and by GDP, a proper measurement of a wealthy country is PPP, I am sure you do not even know the difference. Also, the US GDP is mostly amplified by financial speculations, unlike China whose GDP is based on industries, and real products, hence, they are the global factory and have over 150 countries have them (China) as their main trading partner. What does that tell you?

Why are all countries right now, moving towards China's sphere of influence? A few days ago, the Saudis just signed at least 30 different deals with the Chinese and accepted to only trade their oil with China in yuan, a fatal blow to the US empire. This was what Gadaffi and Hussein did, and was killed and destroyed. Whether you like it or not, evil doesn't last. Like Babylon and other evil empires, they will fade off.

Love the US all you want, but call a spade a spade. I am writing this not because I hate the west, I live in the west myself, but the truth should be the truth whether we like it or not. If you blindly support western evils because you like them, then you are not different from the herdsmen who blow up their country men.

Funny funny boy
What a shame, you wrote nothing about India, I thought you said China and India rule the world.

First of all when was China invaded by the West?
You said China was invaded by the west and colonize for 100 years .. Lol what a bulkshit.
You just wrote rubbish, China has been in existence before the USA was formed,
China was only under occupation by the imperial Japanese empire during WW2, please stop writing rubbish..
You seems like a communist puppet,
Please we are talking about recent history, you are bring the ages of the China dynasty if we were to bring up ages of history then modern day Italy and Greece would be world powers today.
We are talking relevant history to today politics you are bringing up 20 BC,
The greatest China dynasty was The Qing dynasty
Even as powerful it was it wasn't as dominant as the old Roman empires, or the Persian empires.
The same China you are hyping that was rape by the japs and driven from mainland China, China women's were used as comfort Ladies in the war.
Am still waiting for you to tell me how India rule the world .
In terms of economy, you and I know that China economy is too tied to the west, who was China biggest trading partner last ten years?
The same USA and the west.,, China is important for the world supply chain but the west will still be there biggest trading partner.

pansophist:
The question is, what can they do? Except war, I don't see how they will reverse the inevitable trends. And one rule of war is that you dare not fight a super power that is capable of destroying you.

They are not going to fight China directly but will do that through Taiwan.
Just the way they used Ukraine to fight Russians

emmaodet:
Yes, war is the only option and that is the main reason they are fanning the ember of war between china and Taiwan.
US has learnt over time from different wars they have engaged in that direct wars are always too expensive and human draining in terms of death. So the new method is to pair your neighbors against you to wane you financially and drain you through the war before playing their last card of banging you.
Ukraine is being used to drain down Russia and while doing this, they quickly add sanctions to it starve their enemy while seizing your foreign reserves.
A country not well prepared will go back 20/50 years after such war which gives the US and Allies another 20/50 years of breathing space and further advancement while their competitor is still trying to find his foot.
The plan is to provoke china against Taiwan and if china takes the bait, quickly place sanctions on them while they seize over 2 trillion bonds US is owing china while heavily arming Taiwan.

All these will slow down the future progress of china and if properly financially starved, it will go bankrupt and they have the opportunity to sponsor unrest in china and break the country further to finally weaken it, same as Russia.

USA is planning to destroy China through Taiwan.Their plan will work out perfectly if DPP retains presidential sit in 2024.
The war will deplets China's military, economy and infrastructure (some part of the mainland will be hit) but the whole of Taiwan will be destroyed.USA is also planning to destroy TMSC(taiwan chip company) in the event of war.
China will only gain empty and worthless taiwan after the war

pansophist:
Like I said before, the war is the first fall in the domino effect, and the more hostile the West becomes, the more they inadvertently bring themselves down.

The War between US and China is inevitable and i see China being destroyed after the war.
They are still 20years behind US military

pansophist:
The biggest mistake of the century. And they must pay the price for it.

It's left for Saudi Arabia to decide the fate of the u.s dollars, immediately the Saudis join BRICS and dump the petro-dollar
That's bye bye to the u.s dollars

Vl3ly:
I give 5 star

To some this statement is not factual, that's why I try not to get into an argument with them here.
Ignoramus is what I call them

obedience4:
You are writing long epistles
I can't engaged a communist child like you.
Thousands and thousands of evidence are there to back up the systematic persecution and imprisonment of the ethnic Uighurs
But you are blinded by hate..
During ww2 the Nazi concentration camps were hidden from the world and the crimes and killings were hidden, if not for the liberation by the Allies many of such camps Wii have been hidden and not know.
For your information the reasons why the UN have failed to pass and agree over the persecution of the Uighurs tribe is that china a permanent member of the security council have veto it.
Please stop been a fool it is glaring in the eyes of everyone they are writing and video evidence of China crimes, and if you are also wise as you claim you are you will know that the Chinese media space is censored, a simple search on the Uighurs in China won't bring any result..
I don't have time to trade words with you

Below is the link from the UN report on the Uighurs

https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/08/1125932
Read and learn no be by to they post long epistles.

the bold

China dey veto wetin? If china dey veto am why USA no carry am go general assembly wey nobody get power to vote it

Vl3ly:
the bold

China dey veto wetin? If china dey veto am why USA no carry am go general assembly wey nobody get power to vote it

GA doesn't have sufficient power to label China actions a genocide, just like the UN can't label Russia invasion of Ukraine an actual invasion..
GA will only condemn the Acton but can't make it legal binding

Do not be deceived china is seriously set to war over Taiwan.

obedience4:
GA doesn't have sufficient power to label China actions a genocide, just like the UN can't label Russia invasion of Ukraine an actual invasion..
GA will only condemn the Acton but can't make it legal binding

you didn't talk about labeling china initially, but veto

Vl3ly:
China to use Shanghai exchange for yuan energy deals with Gulf nations - Xi

China's President Xi Jinping said in Riyadh on Friday that China and Gulf nations should make full use of the Shanghai Petroleum and National Gas Exchange as a platform to carry out yuan settlement of oil and gas trade.

China and states of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) are natural partners for cooperation, Xi said in a speech at the China-GCC summit.

"China will continue to import large quantities of crude oil from GCC countries, expand imports of liquefied natural gas, strengthen cooperation in upstream oil and gas development, engineering services, storage, transportation and refining, and make full use of the Shanghai Petroleum and National Gas Exchange as a platform to carry out yuan settlement of oil and gas trade," he said.

We'll see how this pans out down the road for intra Asian big-ticket business .

Kingsley10000:
The War between US and China is inevitable and I see China being destroyed after the war.
They are still 20years behind US military

You see unlike you, I don't speak from my arse, but with verifiable facts that I have independently researched on my own. Below is a link from RAND ( a think tank organization for the US armed forces), and they concluded that a war with China would be devastating and nothing the US has ever seen.

https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR1100/RR1140/RAND_RR1140.pdf

You can also read reports from ''US army war college'', and they arrive at the same conclusion. If you do not understand such diplomatic and euphemistic wordings, it simply means China will win. Because China does not have a propaganda loudspeaker (mainstream media) doesn't mean they are weak, it is only an empty barrel that makes the loudest noise.

Firstly, China will never be on the offensive, so the US will have to bring the war to the Chinese border, where they have a massive advantage. Secondly, China has more numbers than the US, China is close to 1.5B people, and the US is just 300M. So the question you should be asking yourself is where will the US land and fight China? in the high sea, then Chinese missiles will clear them off.

Even if they go nuclear, maybe half of China will be wiped out, but you probably do not know that China has massive underground cities to house hundreds of millions of its citizens. So while China will retaliate, how will the US survive it? The US does not have underground cities. Also in war, industries are the most important thing. To be able to reproduce tanks, missiles, and military equipment. And guess what, China has a ''complete industrial infrastructure'', so they can outproduce any country on earth.

Take covid, for example, China produced 350B masks, that's about 53 masks per person globally, imagine such a response rate. Are these the people you think the US will defeat in a war? A country that defeated the US in the Korean war, in a time when they just came out of a civil war, have no navy, airforce, proper clothing, just courage? They defeated the US in a time Nigeria was heaven, and you want to try them now when they are too strong, too wealthy, and have advanced modern weapons including nuclear weapons?

If the US can defeat them, they would have done it long ago. Because in war, it is a fatal mistake to give your enemy time to become stronger and difficult to defeat. You kill them while they are young. I know it is a tough pill to swallow ye western sheep, but there is a new sheriff in town, and there is nothing the west can do about it. They lost, it is as simple as that.

obedience4:
Thousands and thousands of evidence are there to back up the systematic persecution and imprisonment of the ethnic Uighurs
But you are blinded by hate. Below is the link from the UN report on the Uighurs

https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/08/1125932
Read and learn no be by to they post long epistles.

I post long epistles because so many eyes are reading, and I want them to know what's up. Also, quoting links from western sources as a proof is like a pastor quoting biblical verses to prove that God exists. You need neutral sources, and yes, the UN is not neutral. If they hold the US accountable just as they are doing to Russia when the US blew up so many countries, then I will take them seriously.

Furthermore, your evidence is like water bubbles, it can be thousands in the air, but the origin is one. Your so-called thousand of evidence of the Uighur massacre can be traced to just one source, and it's the ''US department of states''. Now another assignment, look for any evidence and read closely, try to figure out the source, and it will ultimately redirect you to the department of State. That can not be admissible as evidence.

A hyena will always be guilty in the eyes of a lion, so expecting me to believe your western proof is nonsense, it's all lies. I asked you so many questions in my previous response to you, but you refuse to answer, why? obviously, you prefer to live in lies, because truth can be painful. Well, if the truth will kill them, I say, let them die

pansophist:
You see unlike you, I don't speak from my arse, but with verifiable facts that I have independently researched on my own. Below is a link from RAND ( a think tank organization for the US armed forces), and they concluded that a war with China would be devastating and nothing the US has ever seen.

https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR1100/RR1140/RAND_RR1140.pdf

You can also read reports from ''US army war college'', and they arrive at the same conclusion. If you do not understand such diplomatic and euphemistic wordings, it simply means China will win. Because China does not have a propaganda loudspeaker (mainstream media) doesn't mean they are weak, it is only an empty barrel that makes the loudest noise.

Firstly, China will never be on the offensive, so the US will have to bring the war to the Chinese border, where they have a massive advantage. Secondly, China has more numbers than the US, China is close to 1.5B people, and the US is just 300M. So the question you should be asking yourself is where will the US land and fight China? in the high sea, then Chinese missiles will clear them off.

Even if they go nuclear, maybe half of China will be wiped out, but you probably do not know that China has massive underground cities to house hundreds of millions of its citizens. So while China will retaliate, how will the US survive it? The US does not have underground cities. Also in war, industries are the most important thing. To be able to reproduce tanks, missiles, and military equipment. And guess what, China has a ''complete industrial infrastructure'', so they can outproduce any country on earth.

Take covid, for example, China produced 350B masks, that's about 53 masks per person globally, imagine such a response rate. Are these the people you think the US will defeat in a war? A country that defeated the US in the Korean war, in a time when they just came out of a civil war, have no navy, airforce, proper clothing, just courage? They defeated the US in a time Nigeria was heaven, and you want to try them now when they are too strong, too wealthy, and have advanced modern weapons including nuclear weapons?

If the US can defeat them, they would have done it long ago. Because in war, it is a fatal mistake to give your enemy time to become stronger and difficult to defeat. You kill them while they are young. I know it is a tough pill to swallow ye western sheep, but there is a new sheriff in town, and there is nothing the west can do about it. They lost, it is as simple as that.

China survived with all the sanctions. Iran is still surviving with the sanctions. Russia does not look like a country with sanction. USA is all talks joor when it comes to its equal.

Regex:
China survived with all the sanctions. Iran is still surviving with the sanctions. Russia does not look like a country with sanction. USA is all talks joor when it comes to its equal.

One thing about sanctions is that you teach countries how to rely on themselves, and not need you, which makes them free ultimately. it's like an abusive partner, they insult and denigrate you, and you just learn to live without them, making them powerless.

pansophist:
And you write like a brainwashed zombie. There are no differences between you and other western sheep. No originality in thoughts whatsoever, same brainwashing in different bodies. Regurgitating the same nonsense over and over again. I can replace you with Mr. Dumbo (aka Karnice600 ) and he would still sound like you. Having said that, let me address your point.

I am not saying other systems are perfect. I am only saying that democracy is not the unicorn that you are painting it to be. So since you exalt democracy so high, then all any critic can do is punch holes in your arguments, which I did. About the Uighur concentration camp thing, that is nonsense as well, and that proves your brainwashing even more. It is the same lie the US lied when they said Iraq has WMD, to use it as a pretext to invade the country.

Now answer this question, and I hope in your attempt to answer it, the truth will reveal itself. If the Chinese massacred the Uighurs in millions, why did their population increase over the last forty years, not decrease? why are there Uighurs exempted from the mandatory one-child policy? Why is their language written on the Chinese currency and enjoy even more rights than the majority of Han Chinese people? Do you know that Uighurs are military people, celebrities, and politicians and can be anything like every Chinese person?

Furthermore, apart from western media, which other major media powerhouse confirmed the false accusations to be true? why are we not seeing millions of Uighurs refugees escaping China to neighboring countries such as Kazakhstan? Ukraine was is an example, millions flooded Europe, so why not the Uighurs? Have you gone to youtube and watched independent YouTubers showing their day-to-day life in Xinjiang?

Also, the accusations of the Uighurs genocide have not been accepted by the international community through the UN, it's just only the US laying those accusations. Are you so dumb that you can't think for yourself? Do you know that the Muslim world carried out their own investigations in the region and wrote jointly that there was no genocide and even applauded the Chinese treatment of minorities?

Have you been to a church or stadium with about 30,000 seats? Imagine the crowd. Now multiply that by maybe 100, so how possible can China imprison millions of people without the world knowing and no mass refugees escape? Imagine the thousands (if not millions) of people needed to imprison millions of Uighurs, and the infrastructure as well.

Between the US and China, who has killed more Muslims? WHich country blew up Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq, at war with Iran, and Libya, and created bad stereotypes of Muslims such as seeing Muslims as terrorists? Is it China or the US? So how can the US now care about Muslims when it didn't care about them before, but bomb their countries and kill millions?

A few days before Russia invaded Ukraine, the west through their satellite showed footage of Russian armies gathered at the Ukrainian border, with modern technologies, even things done underground can be fished out. Why are we not seeing such clips? Why is it just a bunch of highly edited images that can be taken anywhere and doctored in photoshop?

I know I wrote so many things here that you do not know, but if you need me to show proof of any, please let me know. I can support with facts everything I wrote here. Going to corporate media to look for truth is like looking for love in a brothel, you may find it, but it comes with a price, and that price is brainwashing. Emancipate yourself

Adding more spices to your point

pansophist:
I post long epistles because so many eyes are reading, and I want them to know what's up. Also, quoting links from western sources as a proof is like a pastor quoting biblical verses to prove that God exists. You need neutral sources, and yes, the UN is not neutral. If they hold the US accountable just as they are doing to Russia when the US blew up so many countries, then I will take them seriously.

Furthermore, your evidence is like water bubbles, it can be thousands in the air, but the origin is one. Your so-called thousand of evidence of the Uighur massacre can be traced to just one source, and it's the ''US department of states''. Now another assignment, look for any evidence and read closely, try to figure out the source, and it will ultimately redirect you to the department of State. That can not be admissible as evidence.

A hyena will always be guilty in the eyes of a lion, so expecting me to believe your western proof is nonsense, it's all lies. I asked you so many questions in my previous response to you, but you refuse to answer, why? obviously, you prefer to live in lies, because truth can be painful. Well, if the truth will kill them, I say, let them die

Please abeg shit joor,
I don't have time for endless rubbish, only you said no other countries and the UN had accepted that China is committing genocide, now your fallback is now that the UN is not neutral..
When the did the USA department of state now become the UN human right watchdog.they are countless and countless of evidences of the systematic and deliberate force concentration of the Uighurs minority in China, yet you prefer to turn a blind eye because of your senseless hatred for the USA and the West.
Am done let's just end it here..you done win,carry go

pansophist:
You see unlike you, I don't speak from my arse, but with verifiable facts that I have independently researched on my own. Below is a link from RAND ( a think tank organization for the US armed forces), and they concluded that a war with China would be devastating and nothing the US has ever seen.

https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR1100/RR1140/RAND_RR1140.pdf

You can also read reports from ''US army war college'', and they arrive at the same conclusion. If you do not understand such diplomatic and euphemistic wordings, it simply means China will win. Because China does not have a propaganda loudspeaker (mainstream media) doesn't mean they are weak, it is only an empty barrel that makes the loudest noise.

Firstly, China will never be on the offensive, so the US will have to bring the war to the Chinese border, where they have a massive advantage. Secondly, China has more numbers than the US, China is close to 1.5B people, and the US is just 300M. So the question you should be asking yourself is where will the US land and fight China? in the high sea, then Chinese missiles will clear them off.

Even if they go nuclear, maybe half of China will be wiped out, but you probably do not know that China has massive underground cities to house hundreds of millions of its citizens. So while China will retaliate, how will the US survive it? The US does not have underground cities. Also in war, industries are the most important thing. To be able to reproduce tanks, missiles, and military equipment. And guess what, China has a ''complete industrial infrastructure'', so they can outproduce any country on earth.

Take covid, for example, China produced 350B masks, that's about 53 masks per person globally, imagine such a response rate. Are these the people you think the US will defeat in a war? A country that defeated the US in the Korean war, in a time when they just came out of a civil war, have no navy, airforce, proper clothing, just courage? They defeated the US in a time Nigeria was heaven, and you want to try them now when they are too strong, too wealthy, and have advanced modern weapons including nuclear weapons?

If the US can defeat them, they would have done it long ago. Because in war, it is a fatal mistake to give your enemy time to become stronger and difficult to defeat. You kill them while they are young. I know it is a tough pill to swallow ye western sheep, but there is a new sheriff in town, and there is nothing the west can do about it. They lost, it is as simple as that.

Long epistles..
Check out the top ten biggest defence companies
80℅ are USA companies, yet you believe the Chinese have a more greater defence production than the USA.
The Japanese admiral Isoroku Yamamoto said and I quote, " it wasn't enough to defeat the USA in Asia but to March into Washington and demand a surrender. "
With all the rubbish you wrote you believe that China would be able to defeat the USA in a conventional warfare..
Wow I think you should read about the Korea war,
You just wrote a lot of rubbish. By the time the Korea war started China had they biggest army in whole of Asia, yet you claim they had no army or air force,
The Korea war started in 25 June 1950 by that time the communist party was already in power in all of mainland China, and the KMT had retreated to the Chinese island now know has Taiwan, dude you claim to Smart yet you one of the dumbest guys on nairaland.
You also said the Chinese defeated the USA in the Korea war, wow I find that appalling, the north Korea invaded the South Korea and took over the capital,
The USA led UN intervention drove the north Koran's back, took over and then invaded China, by the time the war ended the south Korea has more territories than the north yet you claim the Chinese won the war.
Dude I know you have dumb fans who don't know anything but this is a public forum so take it easy oo

obedience4:
Long epistles..
Check out the top ten biggest defence companies
80℅ are USA companies, yet you believe the Chinese have a more greater defence production than the USA.
The Japanese admiral Isoroku Yamamoto said and I quote, " it wasn't enough to defeat the USA in Asia but to March into Washington and demand a surrender. "
With all the rubbish you wrote you believe that China would be able to defeat the USA in a conventional warfare..
Wow I think you should read about the Korea war,
You just wrote a lot of rubbish. By the time the Korea war started China had they biggest army in whole of Asia, yet you claim they had no army or air force,
The Korea war started in 25 June 1950 by that time the communist party was already in power in all of mainland China, and the KMT had retreated to the Chinese island now know has Taiwan, dude you claim to Smart yet you one of the dumbest guys on nairaland.
You also said the Chinese defeated the USA in the Korea war, wow I find that appalling, the north Korea invaded the South Korea and took over the capital,
The USA led UN intervention drove the north Koran's back, took over and then invaded China, by the time the war ended the south Korea has more territories than the north yet you claim the Chinese won the war.
Dude I know you have dumb fans who don't know anything but this is a public forum so take it easy oo

80%? And Russia alone have depleted it's amunition and there useless NATO
This guy no Sabi china
You can know it's ability through Iranian drone (the most sensitive components was supplied by china), that west still dey find solution for

Nobody ever done hypersonic drone except china
Different kinds of fighting robot
The most long-range ballistic missile
Solar powered drone
Trans-wall machine

Vl3ly:
80%? And Russia alone have depleted it's amunition and there useless NATO
This guy no Sabi china
You can know it's ability through Iranian drone (the most sensitive components was supplied by china), that west still dey find solution for

Nobody ever done hypersonic drone except china
Different kinds of fighting robot
The most long-range ballistic missile
Solar powered drone
Trans-wall machine

Drone, lol, jezz, omo do you think am a dunce,
The USA air force pioneered drone warfare .
Please I don't have to agure with you
A simple research on drone warfare we help you
Iranian drone , a suicide drone, we are talking about drones that fly for hours and shot hell fire missiles.
You dey talk about kamikaze drone..