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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 2:19pm On Dec 13, 2022
iamoyindamola:
You say cheesy
Make them use my head play ball, these amadya sef we show them pepper for school
Imagine them wan divide mosque into 2 during jumaat naso we scatter everything
grin


.... to be honest, I don't see Ahamdiyah Sect Members as true Muslims too.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:19pm On Dec 13, 2022
Sharia has always been part of Nigeria before independence

In Yoruba if you want to say I will punish you severely
In my area you will hear many people say

Ma da seria (Shariah) fun e
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 2:19pm On Dec 13, 2022
BlueRayDick:
The whole Death for Blasphemy shiii is a northen thing as far as Nigeria is concerned and they only comply with it when they are in their home zone.

I can't imagine a muslim let's say from Auchi living in Edo state will say because his neighbor who is a fellow indigene but a pagan insults the prophet and so he must be put to death. We all know that's never going to happen. The same thing is Applicable in almost other Southern parts of the country.

This is one of the reason I always tell anybody who cares to listen that Nigeria is not one. Those that want to deceive themselves can continue to believe otherwise
Nigeria Penal Code allows for up to 2 years of jail time for a convicted Blasphemer.

https://laws.lawnigeria.com/2018/04/20/lfn-criminal-code-act/

So legally in Nigeria, there is a penalty for Blasphemy.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 2:20pm On Dec 13, 2022
GloriousGbola:
Correct. But it was/is civil sharia law. Weddings, disputes that sort of thing.

What they are pushing for now is penal shariah law. Which is why the first casualty was some unfortunate guy whose hand was amputated for stealing. Then we had that lady they wanted to stone to death.

Which is why you have hisbah (known as mutaween in Saudi Arabia) religious police who will ensure you are not alone in a room with a chick, who can arrest you for not being in the mosque during prayers and who can seize and destroy alcohol etc
They are not pushing for it NOW.

It was the Penal component that they implemented in 1999, starting in Zamfara.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 2:21pm On Dec 13, 2022
raumdeuter:
Sharia has always been part of Nigeria before independence

In Yoruba if you want to say I will punish you severely
In my area you will hear many people say

Ma da seria (Shariah) fun e
cheesy


... Na true sha! LMFAO!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:21pm On Dec 13, 2022
raumdeuter:
Don't walk in the wrong time and wrong location

Numbers give confidence. I've seen both religion try stupid shit in their own area where they have numbers

Inside OAU the mosque area you will see brothers camping and claiming to have married sisters and even her parents can no longer see her because of one thing one thing the holy book said. Similar things happen in some fellowship too where female students were colonized as wife of fellowship leaders without parent approval

Even the mojo we all watched religiously for years some attested that watching mojo has been our culture in Awo since the 1970s
one day the Moslem brothers came to tell students that Allah is against it and led to a riot that ended with school closure
Egbon ur last paragraph makes my point for me. When people try such shiii in an environment they are not majority it usually doesn't end well for them.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donstan18: 2:21pm On Dec 13, 2022
BlueRayDick:
Even Don J and Nihilist dey fight pieces grin
Why is everything making sense now?

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:22pm On Dec 13, 2022
OasisX:
grin
.... to be honest, I don't see Ahamdiyah Sect Members as true Muslims too.
Na from primary school I know one of my classmates then she said she was Ahmadiyya and not Ansarudeen nor Anwarudeen
What are the other sects popular in Nigeria especially south?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 2:22pm On Dec 13, 2022
nihilistjnr:
Nigeria Penal Code allows for up to 2 years of jail time for a convicted Blasphemer.

https://laws.lawnigeria.com/2018/04/20/lfn-criminal-code-act/

So legally in Nigeria, there is a penalty for Blasphemy.
Really interesting. I am sure these are grandfathered legacy laws the brits put in place to cow/bully/entrap the native public

Otherwise today anyone who preaches against ogun or ahmodia can also be theoretically convicted of blasphemy.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 2:24pm On Dec 13, 2022
raumdeuter:
Na from primary school I know one of my classmates then she said she was Ahmadiyya and not Ansarudeen nor Anwarudeen
What are the other sects popular in Nigeria especially south?
Ansarudeen, Nawarudeen, NASFAT, QUAREEB, Ansar Islam and so on are not Sects but Groups under Sunni Sect. Ahmadiyyah is a Sect on its own. They have another holy book after Qur'an and they believe in another holy prophet after Muhammad [PBUH].
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by ShaqFu: 2:24pm On Dec 13, 2022
nihilistjnr:
I'm not joking o.

Shariah Law was constitutionally present at Independence
No doubt Sharia law has been present but it's not the law of the federal republic of Nigeria. Sharia law only apply to Muslims not christians or people of any other faith.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 2:26pm On Dec 13, 2022
ShaqFu:
No doubt Sharia law has been present but it's not the law of the federal republic of Nigeria. Sharia law only apply to Muslims not christians or people of any other faith.
Potato potatoe

100 lashes for you and oasisx

For the crime of illegal sexual intercourse angry

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donstan18: 2:26pm On Dec 13, 2022
OasisX:
grin

Amoto is definitely a strong sunni Muslim with a touch of wahhabism. He's more different to Iamoyindamola who is a typical yoruba nominal Muslim.... LOL!

Bokoharam are extremists, practicing core wahhabism.
Now I get it.

Yoruba Muslims aren’t fanatics? They’re way different from Northern Muslims?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:26pm On Dec 13, 2022
nihilistjnr:
Nigeria Penal Code allows for up to 2 years of jail time for a convicted Blasphemer.

https://laws.lawnigeria.com/2018/04/20/lfn-criminal-code-act/

So legally in Nigeria, there is a penalty for Blasphemy.
Yes, there is punishment for blasphemy legally because issues of blasphemy can amount to disturbance of public peace. The 2 years punishment makes sense and not extreme like the capital punishment which I don't think any reasonable person should support in these modern times.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 2:27pm On Dec 13, 2022
raumdeuter:
Na from primary school I know one of my classmates then she said she was Ahmadiyya and not Ansarudeen nor Anwarudeen
What are the other sects popular in Nigeria especially south?
I think it;s these 2 really, especially in Abule-Egba side heading towards Ota

Ansarudeen seemed to be prolific with secondary schools sha, whilst Ahmadiyya gave us the famous busstop grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:27pm On Dec 13, 2022
ShaqFu:
No doubt Sharia law has been present but it's not the law of the federal republic of Nigeria. Sharia law only apply to Muslims not christians or people of any other faith.
But if moslems are the overwhelming majority then it becomes the rule and you cannot plead that you're not anymore

Reason why in core North even Christian women cover their head in scarf always and dress similar to their environment
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donstan18: 2:28pm On Dec 13, 2022
GloriousGbola:
It is in the nature of humans to be divided.
Live abd let live, liberal, conservative, hardcore, militant. Take your pick.
Yet we claim to be one Nigeria. cheesy

Make I no just talk.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 2:29pm On Dec 13, 2022
donstan18:
Now I get it.

Yoruba Muslims aren’t fanatics? They’re way different from Northern Muslims?
grin

Yoruba Muslims are typical example of I belong to everybody and I belong to nobody. Yoruba Muslims wey dey go church? Dem go talk say, no be same God we dey worship?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 2:29pm On Dec 13, 2022
BlueRayDick:
Yes, there is punishment for blasphemy legally because issues of blasphemy can amount to disturbance of public peace. The 2 years punishment makes sense and not extreme like the capital punishment which I don't think any reasonable person should support in these modern times.
Disturbance of public peace is a misdemeanor. The caregory of offence lagos sentences people to cut grass or wash toilets

Because really then it is more about preaching.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by ShaqFu: 2:31pm On Dec 13, 2022
raumdeuter:
But if moslems are the overwhelming majority then it becomes the rule and you cannot plead that you're not anymore

Reason why in core North even Christian women cover their head in scarf always and dress similar to their environment
Wrong. Even in the core north the law of the federal republic of Nigeria stands firm.

Women who cover their hairs do so because they want to. I've lived in the core north before so I know this.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 2:32pm On Dec 13, 2022
ShaqFu:
No doubt Sharia law has been present but it's not the law of the federal republic of Nigeria. Sharia law only apply to Muslims not christians or people of any other faith.
Nigeria doesnt have just one law. Nigeria is a pluralistic when it comes to legal frameworks as enshrined in multiple successive constitutions.

This is why a Nigerian court ruled THIS YEAR that Islamic religious law does not violate the constitution, dismissing a test-case challenge from a singer who was sentenced to death two years ago on the charge of blasphemy.

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/nigerias-sharia-blasphemy-law-not-unconstitutional-court-rules-2022-08-17/

Joe, bro, we're a muslim country, and have been since the start grin grin

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by ShaqFu: 2:33pm On Dec 13, 2022
GloriousGbola:
Potato potatoe

100 lashes for you and oasisx

For the crime of illegal sexual intercourse angry
illegal sexual intercourse? You mean fornicating? grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 2:35pm On Dec 13, 2022
GloriousGbola:
Really interesting. I am sure these are grandfathered legacy laws the brits put in place to cow/bully/entrap the native public

Otherwise today anyone who preaches against ogun or ahmodia can also be theoretically convicted of blasphemy.
If the fans of this religion are angry enough, and resourced enough to pursue a conviction, then yeah it can be done.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 2:36pm On Dec 13, 2022
ShaqFu:
illegal sexual intercourse? You mean fornicating? grin
Yep. The Qur'an is full of admonitions against illegal sexual intercourse. You are practically guaranteed Al Jannah if you can maintain the sanctity of your private parts.

There is however one clause I did not understand at the time. You can legally have sex with those who your right hand possesses. lipsrsealed
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 2:36pm On Dec 13, 2022
OasisX:
Ansarudeen, Nawarudeen, NASFAT, QUAREEB, Ansar Islam and so on are not Sects but Groups under Sunni Sect. Ahmadiyyah is a Sect on its own. They have another holy book after Qur'an and they believe in another holy prophet after Muhammad [PBUH].
Ahmadiyya is definitely a standalone sect. An esoteric mix of majority Sunni Islam and minority Christian beliefs.

Talking about the post-prophet period, that is the most interesting portion of Islamic history for a neutral. Enough assassinations and battles. Only 1 of the 4 Rashidun Caliphs died peacefully, and then you had the genius of Khalid ibn Al-Walid.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 2:38pm On Dec 13, 2022
nihilistjnr:
Nigeria doesnt have just one law. Nigeria is a pluralistic when it comes to legal frameworks as enshrined in multiple successive constitutions.

This is why a Nigerian court ruled THIS YEAR that Islamic religious law does not violate the constitution, dismissing a test-case challenge from a singer who was sentenced to death two years ago on the charge of blasphemy.

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/nigerias-sharia-blasphemy-law-not-unconstitutional-court-rules-2022-08-17/

Joe, bro, we're a muslim country, and have been since the start grin grin
grin

.... our Military Logo has النصر من الله boldly written on it. It means Victory from God (Allah) though.

Our Currencies have Arabic texts on them like we are an Arab Nation.... LOL
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 2:38pm On Dec 13, 2022
afrodoc2:
Ahmadiyya is definitely a standalone sect. An esoteric mix of majority Sunni Islam and minority Christian beliefs.

Talking about the post-prophet period, that is the most interesting portion of Islamic history for a neutral. Enough assassinations and battles. Only 1 of the 4 Rashidun Caliphs died peacefully, and then you had the genius of Khalid ibn Al-Walid.
A man of letters and culture.

Big bro, walahi, I always admire how widely read you are
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 2:39pm On Dec 13, 2022
nihilistjnr:
Nigeria doesnt have just one law. Nigeria is a pluralistic when it comes to legal frameworks as enshrined in multiple successive constitutions.

This is why a Nigerian court ruled THIS YEAR that Islamic religious law does not violate the constitution, dismissing a test-case challenge from a singer who was sentenced to death two years ago on the charge of blasphemy.

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/nigerias-sharia-blasphemy-law-not-unconstitutional-court-rules-2022-08-17/

Joe, bro, we're a muslim country, and have been since the start grin grin
Native law is constitutional

Interesting.

So I can legally kill twins? I can legally covet my siblings hot wife if he passes on? I can seize his properties from her family?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 2:40pm On Dec 13, 2022
It's very soothing to see adherents of a religion challenge various sects of their religion and infact reject them totally.
Religion simply does not make sense based on it's very contradictory nature and also the fact that it can no longer evolve to meet modern standards.

I mean look at oasis plainly confessing that he can't avoid premarital sex or fornication. Unfortunately there are few Muslims in predominantly Muslim countries that can't ever state that in public or afford to have that choice.

My question now is why don't we hear more from liberal Muslims in public. How come most of the views espoused here from the Muslims on this board are not publicly heard??
Why don't we see more Muslims publicly challenge their more radical counterparts? Th3 minute that begins to happen, we begin to solve the problem of religious radicalism.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 2:41pm On Dec 13, 2022
afrodoc2:
Ahmadiyya is definitely a standalone sect. An esoteric mix of majority Sunni Islam and minority Christian beliefs.

Talking about the post-prophet period, that is the most interesting portion of Islamic history for a neutral. Enough assassinations and battles. Only 1 of the 4 Rashidun Caliphs died peacefully, and then you had the genius of Khalid ibn Al-Walid.
..... damn! Were you a Muslim? Like I told GloriousGbola, I have stopped reading/studying post-prophet epochs. I can't stand it, and you're correct on Ahmadiyyah.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 2:41pm On Dec 13, 2022
GloriousGbola:
Native law.

Interesting.

So I can legally kill twins? I can legally covet my siblings hot wife if he passes on? I can seize his properties from her family
I'm not a lawyer so me I don't know o.

If you carry your dead brother's wife and he comes back from the afterlife to haunt your soul, and seize your gbola mid-coitus with his spectral hand, don't call me for legal advice.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by ShaqFu: 2:41pm On Dec 13, 2022
nihilistjnr:
Nigeria doesnt have just one law. Nigeria is a pluralistic when it comes to legal frameworks as enshrined in multiple successive constitutions.

This is why a Nigerian court ruled THIS YEAR that Islamic religious law does not violate the constitution, dismissing a test-case challenge from a singer who was sentenced to death two years ago on the charge of blasphemy.

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/nigerias-sharia-blasphemy-law-not-unconstitutional-court-rules-2022-08-17/

Joe, bro, we're a muslim country, and have been since the start grin grin
I tell you this, there is no where in the constitution where it is stated that Sharia law must apply to non Muslim.

Whoever that singer is, the lawyer who defended him doesn't know what he or she is doing. Putting someone on trial for the case of blaspheming against another religion is a no no. I believe that singer was trialed for offenses capable of causing breach of peace etc, not blaspheming.

Also, Sharia law isn't unconstitutional. It is visibly enshrined in the 1999 constitution. So whoever commits blaspheming will be trialed for offenses relating to causing breach of peace etc, not for blaspheming, as long as the person isn't a Muslim.
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