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Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by Kaycee9242(m): 12:45pm On Dec 14, 2022
grandstar:
Isn't this greed? Greed is the problem. It isn't fair.

Who told you your mum was a virgin when she married? huh huh

I always take such statements with a pinch of salt. It's ideal and does happen more frequently than we imagine.
It might be possible she was a virgin, remember in those days most women marry before the age of 18 or 20 but now how do expect a graduate to be a virgin. The comparison doesn't make sense because women don't marry early now because of career and you don't expect the person to be sex starved.

If a guy need a virgin he should marry under 18
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by purejustice36: 12:46pm On Dec 14, 2022
Adeoyelee:
I no like to dey dey bias, bro I swear that 30k too small make we do am 50k last price.

So that those bride family go fit see small things buy with the 50k

Like rice 2 paint, garri 2paint, beans 2 paint, palm oil 1 bottle, Groundnut oil 1 bottle, semo 1k, spaghetti 4 pieces & some other stuff too
Who wan pay these food stuffs for woman wey no be virgin , me ?

My guy amen dey inside men o, E get some men wey be say if you see their gbola you sef go fear , na those kind gbolas these girls dey collect steady , everywhere for her kpekus go come soft wotoporously
Na that kind kpekus person go pay foodstuff for ?
In fact men no even suppose dey marry any girl wey no be virgin sef, dem suppose be baby mama bruh

As I they talk with you like this , my guy they knack babe wey don marry this particular minute for my backyard unto say my backyard they coded , my kpoli joint

Imagine say the hubby find out no be to divorce her? Then another man go come dey pay so mu bride price for that same woman head again ?

Lights up my kpoli in peace
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by PotatoSalad(m): 12:47pm On Dec 14, 2022
Ajehkpako4naija:
Oga the bottom line of your story is that. YOU ARE TOO STINGY. Stop complaining and go and look for money. Marriage is meant for the matured minds not mediocres.Iam a man, but I will literally tell you that no woman is CHEAP. Marriage is not what you get with 15k. There is a price to pay. Funny enuff Govt has nothing to do concerning this issue. Even the Senate president will pay the bride price if he wants to marry from my village. Just 2 Bible verses to butress my point that marriage has its price.
Exodus 22:16-17: "If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the BRIDE-PRICE, and she shall be his wife. If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he must still pay the bride-price for virgins."
2 Sam 24:24...
But the king replied to Araunah, “No, I insist on buying it, for I will not present burnt offerings to the LORD my God that have cost me nothing.” So David paid him fifty pieces of silver for the threshing floor and the oxen.

There is always a sacrifice to pay. Go hustle bro and stop complaining. The best the family can do is to amend the list a little.
What a SIMPle man
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by Nobody: 12:50pm On Dec 14, 2022
HayB100:
God bless you you for this bro. We should be paying millions for one borehole oh
He is correct.
This is exactly what is obtainable in South Africa. They adore VIRGINITY a lot especially the Zulus.

If you get a ZULU LADY pregnant you must pay for damages even though you are not interested in the child. U will accord her, her virginity rites

Nigerians can't just be dishing out outrageous MARRIAGE LISTS of prostitutes to teaming bachelors interested in settling down.
After all, all VEHICLES of same model are not of same price value
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by 07kjb: 12:50pm On Dec 14, 2022
Waiting concern government with customs and tradition
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by grandstar(m): 12:52pm On Dec 14, 2022
Kaycee9242:
It might be possible she was a virgin, remember in those days most women marry before the age of 18 or 20 but now how do expect a graduate to be a virgin. The comparison doesn't make sense because women don't marry early now because of career and you don't expect the person to be sex starved.

If a guy need a virgin he should marry under 18
I was in Unilag in the 1990s. Things were already quite liberal in those days. Many of the mama's today you see wearing trousers started back then or in the 80s.

Perhaps, if you spoke of the 60s or 70s, I might concur with you but certainly not the 90s. The only thing we didn't have in the 90s was Boko Haram and perhaps Niger Delta militants. Even the latter had started emerging in the late 90s but it politicians who enlisted them to win elections and now bought weapons for them.
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by asanausana91: 12:53pm On Dec 14, 2022
Bantu10:
Thunder faya you there. If Waziri Adamawa shit cant respect north and south leadership turns, why do U think he will respect decentralization of powers?? You think U re talking to almajiris and urchins like ur brothers??
how old were you in 2011?
Atiku 4 years Will only balance the the Yaradua remaining 4 years.
Mind you, the north east where Atiku come from has never produce president.
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by CodeTemplar: 12:58pm On Dec 14, 2022
Lol... Government is for issues many groups share in common and not what makes the groups unique.
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by shortIGBOman: 1:04pm On Dec 14, 2022
Adeoyelee:
No bro. She no worth am
God bless you. Amaka Father wan SCAM me. He no know say I wise pass am grin grin

Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by kelmicheal: 1:06pm On Dec 14, 2022
YoungLionken:
The western system of government has no right over traditional rites in wedding and burial..

On the issue of chastisement, this generation has left the old, genuine ways of their forefathers. Hence, the drastic moral decadence..

I once read a book by Ola Rotimi; "the gods are not to blame"...
But government have right to dethrone and enthrone right abi?
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by Bantu10: 1:07pm On Dec 14, 2022
asanausana91:
how old were you in 2011?
Atiku 4 years Will only balance the the Yaradua remaining 4 years.
Mind you, the north east where Atiku come from has never produce president.
You mean atiku will balance yaradua 4 years... And what did buhari do?? Going by the number of years, who has ruled this country more? The south or north??

Also, from ur warped analogy, South east has also not produced the president.
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by TheChameleon: 1:26pm On Dec 14, 2022
shortIGBOman:
IGBO People no go gree. As I propose to my IGBO Babe Amaka, the list they gave me was over 4 million. I just tell them say I dey come. Na so I run and never look back.

Amaka father still dey call me say, make I come. The man wan finish me kpatakpata. Me wey wise, I no gree go back. I just dey Fvck Amaka for free now.

See Amaka picture below. Is She worth 4 million?grin
Same yamlegger that Afonja and Ab0ki for don screw tire ...come dump for one coward chestbeater to marry with 35 page wedding list.

Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by asanausana91: 1:29pm On Dec 14, 2022
Bantu10:
You mean atiku will balance yaradua 4 years... And what did buhari do?? Going by the number of years, who has ruled this country more? The south or north??

Also, from ur warped analogy, South east has also not produced the president.
PDP rule this country for 16 years,out of those years the north only rule for 2 years. From 1999 to date the south rule for 14 years while the north got 10 years only. With Atiku 4 years the ratio will be balanced 14:14
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by Indispensable85(m): 1:30pm On Dec 14, 2022
Mophasa:
I’ve been seeing some marriage lists with insane requirements running into millions of naira on the internet lately and there’s something that actually interests me about it.

In the generations of our ancestors when this lists were curated, 99% of the brides then were virgins and have never known any man, in fact it was a taboo traditionally to give out a non virgin wvman as a bide then.

Over the years civilization have changed alot of things where wvmen feel they’re now more powerful and have grown beyond being accountable to their families and can literally do whatever they like with their lives and bodies.

At this point, I think it’s fraudulent for families to keep insisting that non virgin wvmen should keep enjoying the same traditional marriage benefits as older generational virtuous wvmen that kept their virginity for their husbands.

The government and traditional leaders need to look into this critical issues, non virgin wvmen should be given out in marriage for a token or for free, while virgin wvmen should keep enjoying the full traditional marriage rites of previous generations.

These is the only way we can hold our wvmen accountable and also encourage them to become like the biblical virtuous wvmen like Esther and Rebecca.

As a man, I will feel cheated if I have to pay millions of naira to marry a non virgin wvmen, exactly the same amount of money and expenses that my father paid for my mum as a young fresh virgin wvmen in the early 90s.

I know some persons will disagree with me but!
U be MUMU for bringing government into traditional marriage matter.

It's a family thing. If u no like d list leave their daughter for them to marry and look for another girl to marry from another family.
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by hairyman(m): 1:31pm On Dec 14, 2022
I think the lists are fine the way they are.

I doubt that they are meant to represent the woman's value. I see them more as a representation of a man's commitment to the journey he is about to embark on.

If the virginity part is relevant to you, then find only virgin women or a virgin woman to perform the rites for.

The western culture made marriage very easy to enter...and very easy to exit, moreso for women who can always get a lot of money from the man and probably a new husband in a short while. The result is that the family is nearly an extinct basic unit of their society.

Here a woman will think thrice before leaving because there will hardly be any man willing to commit to such a humongous list on her behalf anymore. A man, also, will not leave easily because to go through this process again is daunting!.
Ergo we learn to sort things out rather than go our ways. We also learn to deal with the reality that 'happily ever after" is nonsense. Marriage was never designed for that. Its a union in which spouses owe each other and their offsprings certain responsibilities which they must strive to fulfill. Interestingly, when they fulfill these responsibilities, things generally work out fine.

I got married during my NYSC. Even then the only grace my in-laws kindred gave me was to allow me pay for these in batches.
This system is common these days too.
And I agree with it. I agree that these lists might do well with a bit of review to weed out frivolities. But I certainly believe that they should never be scrapped.

In reference to the economic condition of the country, the tradition used to be that a poor man who cannot fulfill this responsibility is aided by his kindred. This makes sense because a poor man requires external aid to care for both his wife and the eventual offsprings. His kindred, by aiding his fulfillment of the commitment, is tacitly stating that they will be there to aid him in caring for his family.
This implies that we need to bring back out sense of community, something that has all but disappeared from our society.

But marriage lists....they should stay.
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by harmargedon: 1:32pm On Dec 14, 2022
Mophasa:
I’ve been seeing some marriage lists with insane requirements running into millions of naira on the internet lately and there’s something that actually interests me about it.

In the generations of our ancestors when this lists were curated, 99% of the brides then were virgins and have never known any man, in fact it was a taboo traditionally to give out a non virgin wvman as a bide then.

Over the years civilization have changed alot of things where wvmen feel they’re now more powerful and have grown beyond being accountable to their families and can literally do whatever they like with their lives and bodies.

At this point, I think it’s fraudulent for families to keep insisting that non virgin wvmen should keep enjoying the same traditional marriage benefits as older generational virtuous wvmen that kept their virginity for their husbands.

The government and traditional leaders need to look into this critical issues, non virgin wvmen should be given out in marriage for a token or for free, while virgin wvmen should keep enjoying the full traditional marriage rites of previous generations.

These is the only way we can hold our wvmen accountable and also encourage them to become like the biblical virtuous wvmen like Esther and Rebecca.

As a man, I will feel cheated if I have to pay millions of naira to marry a non virgin wvmen, exactly the same amount of money and expenses that my father paid for my mum as a young fresh virgin wvmen in the early 90s.

I know some persons will disagree with me but!
traditional sects are not like your Christian and Muslim religion. Government has no right to intervene in our practices
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by Bantu10: 1:32pm On Dec 14, 2022
asanausana91:
PDP rule this country for 16 years,out of those years the north only rule for 2 years. From 1999 to date the south rule for 14 years while the north got 10 years only. With Atiku 4 years the ratio will be balanced 14:14
Did Nigeria start in 1999?
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by TheNiceGuy(m): 1:46pm On Dec 14, 2022
This outrageous marriage list is onle prevalent in South East and some part of South South in whole Nigeria
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by Qatar2022: 1:46pm On Dec 14, 2022
You're stupid seriously, you called it traditional and still want government to review it, when your daughter want to marry give her out freely but don't force other people to give their daughter hand in marriage free
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by NwaMamaIwota(f): 1:47pm On Dec 14, 2022
TheNiceGuy:
This outrageous marriage list is onle prevalent in South East and some part of South South in whole Nigeria
come and Marry me kiss
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by TheNiceGuy(m): 1:48pm On Dec 14, 2022
ChiGAYzie, is that why you're not married yet despite being in your 40s angry
NwaMamaIwota:
come and Marry me kiss
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by Qatar2022: 1:50pm On Dec 14, 2022
Fragility6:
Sad development but there is nothing the government can do. If more people start challenging the lists then something might change until then
Even if the whole Nigeria challenge it , it won't stop because it has been there for ages plus the greedy ones won't even listen
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by Kaycee9242(m): 1:50pm On Dec 14, 2022
grandstar:
I was in Unilag in the 1990s. Things were already quite liberal in those days. Many of the mama's today you see wearing trousers started back then or in the 80s.

Perhaps, if you spoke of the 60s or 70s, I might concur with you but certainly not the 90s. The only thing we didn't have in the 90s was Boko Haram and perhaps Niger Delta militants. Even the latter had started emerging in the late 90s but it politicians who enlisted them to win elections and now bought weapons for them.
See regardless Of the year my point is that very few female graduates marry as a virgin, university exposes one alot. How many men can come out to say that they married a graduate and she was a virgin
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by grandstar(m): 1:57pm On Dec 14, 2022
Kaycee9242:
See regardless Of the year my point is that very few female graduates marry as a virgin, university exposes one alot. How many men can come out to say that they married a graduate and she was a virgin
I see things based on your point or to what you're pointing at- that such a high bride price is only tenable if the bride is virgin.
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by Fragility6: 2:05pm On Dec 14, 2022
Qatar2022:
Even if the whole Nigeria challenge it , it won't stop because it has been there for ages plus the greedy ones won't even listen
List wasn't like this for ages
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by shortIGBOman: 2:29pm On Dec 14, 2022
TheChameleon:
Same yamlegger that Afonja and Ab0ki for don screw tire ...come dump for one coward chestbeater to marry with 35 page wedding list.
God bless you. That's what their Girls are good for. Fvck and dump them. When they become older with worn out Toto, one unfortunate Chenedu, Emeka, Obiora or Chibuzor go come marry them. grin grin

Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by Nobleou(m): 2:35pm On Dec 14, 2022
OP, how much has the government review standard of living?


Why would you guys leave what is important for what is not important?


MOD: If you love any geh giv ha belle, go do smal tin on ha hed make rife countrynew
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by jessylaurel(f): 2:39pm On Dec 14, 2022
Mophasa:
I’ve been seeing some marriage lists with insane requirements running into millions of naira on the internet lately and there’s something that actually interests me about it.

In the generations of our ancestors when this lists were curated, 99% of the brides then were virgins and have never known any man, in fact it was a taboo traditionally to give out a non virgin wvman as a bide then.

Over the years civilization have changed alot of things where wvmen feel they’re now more powerful and have grown beyond being accountable to their families and can literally do whatever they like with their lives and bodies.

At this point, I think it’s fraudulent for families to keep insisting that non virgin wvmen should keep enjoying the same traditional marriage benefits as older generational virtuous wvmen that kept their virginity for their husbands.

The government and traditional leaders need to look into this critical issues, non virgin wvmen should be given out in marriage for a token or for free, while virgin wvmen should keep enjoying the full traditional marriage rites of previous generations.

These is the only way we can hold our wvmen accountable and also encourage them to become like the biblical virtuous wvmen like Esther and Rebecca.

As a man, I will feel cheated if I have to pay millions of naira to marry a non virgin wvmen, exactly the same amount of money and expenses that my father paid for my mum as a young fresh virgin wvmen in the early 90s.

I know some persons will disagree with me but!
Culture is culture. The government have nothing to do with it. If you're broke stay unmarried and let those that can afford and take care of someone's daughter do it.
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by asanausana91: 2:41pm On Dec 14, 2022
Bantu10:
Did Nigeria start in 1999?
I don't discuss military regime. Nobody vote for any military president
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by Bantu10: 2:59pm On Dec 14, 2022
asanausana91:
I don't discuss military regime. Nobody vote for any military president
Mister, go and sit ur ass down you bloody hypocrite. We are talking about the number of years north vs south has ruled the country... No body cares whether it is military or civilian
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by hk891: 3:17pm On Dec 14, 2022
Mophasa:
I’ve been seeing some marriage lists with insane requirements running into millions of naira on the internet lately and there’s something that actually interests me about it.

In the generations of our ancestors when this lists were curated, 99% of the brides then were virgins and have never known any man, in fact it was a taboo traditionally to give out a non virgin wvman as a bide then.

A virgin can only marry a virgin

Over the years civilization have changed alot of things where wvmen feel they’re now more powerful and have grown beyond being accountable to their families and can literally do whatever they like with their lives and bodies.

At this point, I think it’s fraudulent for families to keep insisting that non virgin wvmen should keep enjoying the same traditional marriage benefits as older generational virtuous wvmen that kept their virginity for their husbands.

The government and traditional leaders need to look into this critical issues, non virgin wvmen should be given out in marriage for a token or for free, while virgin wvmen should keep enjoying the full traditional marriage rites of previous generations.

These is the only way we can hold our wvmen accountable and also encourage them to become like the biblical virtuous wvmen like Esther and Rebecca.

As a man, I will feel cheated if I have to pay millions of naira to marry a non virgin wvmen, exactly the same amount of money and expenses that my father paid for my mum as a young fresh virgin wvmen in the early 90s.

I know some persons will disagree with me but!
Re: Why The Government Should Review Traditional Marriage Lists by magzey: 3:26pm On Dec 14, 2022
Who traditional marriage epp? I can't take Panadol for someone's headache

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