₦airaland Forum

AntiChristian:
What you wrote is "Lah" which is composed of "Lam" and "Ha"!
You are simply too ignorant to know that لله can't stand on its own without being preceded by something!

HisSplendor:
My beloved Muslim friends, especially, Legalwolf, Antichristian and Lukuluku69, I think these two names are eye opening names if we look at their meanings.

Jubril means strength from Yahweh or Yahweh is my strength. That means Angel Jubril's God is not Allah but Yahweh.

Ismael also means Yahweh will hear or Yahweh hears me. This means Abraham who gave Ismael his name was a worshiper of Yahweh and not Allah. How then can Abraham be a Muslim? Could someone who didn't name his son after Allah really build a mosque to him? I think it's getting clearer to you guys. You may have a different opinion actually. I'll be glad to hear it.

Also, if all the prophets Islam venerates have Yahweh reverently attached to their names as evidently shown, it means Yahweh is the God of the prophets and not Allah. The name issue is the big Truth that the lies of the Arabs could not cover.

Please note that the dearh and resurrection of Christ is what brought us victory over Satan. Satan created Islam to use it as a weapon for blocking people from having access to that victory which Christ purchased with His blood. You can't understand this just in few sentences. If you study the Bible well, all the questions arising in your heart about Christ's death and resurrection would be answered.

Please ask yourself this? Of what use is it for anyone to peddle lies that his Saviour bled and died on a criminal cross? It's not logical at all. The earliest Christians know it looks foolish but there's nothing they could do about it because it is the truth, and it carries much power. That's why Paul said "I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ for it is the power of God unto salvation..." This people all laid down their lives for this truth even though the truth looks foolish. They were all matyred. They died gladly because they knew they were dying for the truth. They rejected all inducements and gave up their lives for the truth.

I tell you, even Mohammed couldn't die for Islam. He took up weapons to defend his life. They earliest Christians gave up their lives for the Christianity that we today enjoy. Please think about this.

Please let's be loyal to our souls. Our individual souls and its eternal home is what matters. Loyalty to a religion or prophet does not make sense.

My beloved brothers in Christ Jesus, Advocatejare, TenQ, Sixfiguresmart and Speaklove, this is the biggest truth of the century. This is the most potent weapon for opening the eyes of our beloved Muslim brothers and sisters. I plead with you in Christ's name to meditate on this and make a complete compilation of names and meanings which coupled with your deep knowledge of Islam, could be maximised to help Muslims see the truth.

AntiChristian:
What you wrote is "Lah" which is composed of "Lam" and "Ha"!
You are simply too ignorant to know that لله can't stand on its own without being preceded by something!

Lukuluku69:
This post here has a lot but I will only pick on this Yahweh thing, Christ dying on the Cross and your opinion that even Muhammad couldn't die for Islam.

The Tetragrammaton YHWH does not in any way stand alone as God's name rather what you have is YHWH ELOHIM. Which the Bible Translators rendrede as LORD GOD. Please not that the Hebrew never added any vowel signs to it because they know their language unlike non Hebrews who needed these vowels signs to pronounce these words.

Funny enough, there was a time Hebrew died out as a Language and what you have as Hebrew Language today is nothing but a revived Language as such it has so many borrowe words from wherever Hebrew people lived or migrated to.

It would interest you to know that, Hebrew was revived with the help of Arabic! A sister Language as Aramaic. YHWH ELOHIM is nothing but OH HE ELOHIM/ELOAH (depending on the Dialects of the Speaker? Ask any Yoruba the difference between OLODUMARE AND ELEDUMARE. He/she will tell you they are the same.

So, to clip YHWH and add vowels to it and make it a unique God's name is a manifest error. Your cousins The Witness have added a J and made JEVOVAH out of it when the letter J was never in Hebrew lexicon and that Letter J was relatively coined (about 450 years ago)

On your submission that Jesus came to die, the Bible teaches that your righteousness is on you and and your unrighteousness is on you only. A Vicarious attornment is man's idea and nothing more. If Christ came to die as you alleged, he doesn't have to be ratted out, he doesn't have to pray against his death and no need for him to start crying and talking and bout being forsake.

I will willingly lay down my life without the drama your Jesus put up if I have God's assurance that I will rise Three Days later.

It is true Muhammad did come to die for Islam or Muslims, it is not necessary. What is necessary is the Message he brought and once that is passed across there is no need to kill an innocent man for anyone to live. It is against logic, it is against common sense.

Can you agree to kill your own Children in order for a robber who came to rob you not go to jail after pillaging, raping and doing all sorts?

LegalWolf:
To your questions, here are the answers:



Correct! But LAH means absolutely nothing in Arabic. Transcribe 'LAH' into Arabic Letters let us see the meaning!



1. I do not know the meaning of Jubril or Mikhail in Arabic. But I agree to your previous translation of the terms.

2. THIS IS THE EXACT POINT OF MY ARGUMENT !!!!!!!!!!!! The EL in both terms do not refer to the ones in Canaanite Religion BUT IT IS INDISPUTABLE THAT EL IN HEBREW ORIGINATES FROM CANAANITE PANTHEON GOD . This is exactly the same point I have been saying that you call 'God' Olorun in Yoruba does not mean that you worship the leader of the Yoruba Pantheon God! But the leader of the Yoruba Pantheon God is Olorun, isn't it.

This is why I laugh when you folks are quick to ascribe Allah to a moon god when the Origin of EL is clearly traceable to the head of the Canaanite Pantheon gods. I gave you a fvcking research paper on this BUT you will never learn! Just cruise and vibes



The underlined is false.

By my understanding, a title is defined as a word that is used before someone's name, stating their social rank, qualifications, position in an organization, gender . See:https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/title?q=title+

Another definition of Title on Google is as follows:
a name that describes someone's position or job.

El Shaddai is literally translated as 'God the Most High' or God the Almighty. Clearly, Shaddai should be the title while El is the personal and proper name for God just like Allah. LOL! Your logic will tumble no matter how you try to defend the indefensible!

And on your equivalent with Allah, who told you that we cannot say Allah Al- Qudus? or Allah Al-Salaam? That is what many of us say in Dhikr for crying out loud!

Modified: I must admit I made an error when I said El Shaddai is translated as God the Most High. The Most High is translated as El Elyon and not El Shaddai. Shaddai often times means God Almighty. So it is still interesting to see TenQ or his advocate advocatejare would have the mouth to say Yhwh is the personal name for God. LOL!

LegalWolf:
Smiles, beloved brother. Of course, I know before I begin that there is nothing I tell you that will make you change your beliefs. However, you asked for my opinion and that I will give you. But three core points may be stated here:

1. I do not claim to know God's intention. In fact, the way I conceive it is that God ABSOLUTELY knows the innermost recesses of my thoughts while I am perpetually incapable of knowing HIS intention.

2. But the statement above needs to be properly caveated: I can only rationalize but not know what God intends. Muslim ends many arguments by saying 'Allahu Ahlam' meaning God knows. So that attribute of knowing 'why' he does things is left to HIM and HIM alone.

3. Finally, I am a Muslim for so many reasons and perhaps one of the interesting ones is that Islam admonishes us to think, to self-reflect and find knowledge wherever possible. This to mind clearly demonstrates the superiority of Islam above other religion (of course, I know you think otherwise. But that is my opinion). Now to the issues at hand:



Apologies accepted. We do not need to bicker and hurl insults when discussing serious issues of faith. Or do we?



This is the core of my opinion (of course, rationalizing Allah's thoughts and touching on the questions as formulated by the OP):

Premises
1. The starting point we should know is that 'actions are judged according to intentions' .

2. The second premise we should know is something called 'Interpretatio graeca'. Simply explained, in clash of cultures, some cultures tend to borrow the name of a God of another.

3. Lastly, in Islam, we believe every community (or probably culture) has a prophet.

Argument

I have been looking for the best way to couch this argument but I am in a hurry as I need to attend to other matters. So properly constructing an argument and drawing pieces of evidence from several cultures may not be appropriate at this time. But when I have time and I want to revisit the matter, I will.

But to simply restate the point, the Al-Mighty God I worship knows who is been referred to when a culture appropriates a name of another God for it. Let me give you an example that readily comes to mind. When TenQ, who I always assume to be a Yoruba, prays to God that 'Olorun help me', God ought to know that he is not referring to the head of the Yoruba pantheon also called Olorun or Eledumare but 'El Shaddai'.

Take the example further, If Advocatejare Great Grandfather- a person I also assume to be Yoruba and who probably worships Esu, prays that Esu should help him. He is certainly referring to Esu as a member of the Yoruba pantheon of Gods and not the Biblical Satan. But look at we have: Olorun has been approximated to El Shaddai and this continues to this day. Same with Esu to Satan and this continues to this day!

El Shaddai has sent these prophets to there people and the culture preceding them has approximated Yhwh (who I believe to be completely different) to El Shaddai. But my strong opinion is that God in his infinite mercies know that who they are referring to by that name is El Shaddai just as he knows that when TenQ calls Olorun, he is referring to HIM. Speculatively, the prophet God sent to the Yoruba people (if any) may have been Olorun something!

This is my opinion as rationalized! Allah knows best and I know lukuluku69 or AntiChristian may share the same views with me or disagree. We all cannot know Allah's thought as I said earlier. Again ALLAHU AHLAM!




Thank you for the compliments. I may not be able to respond to later tonight or early morning of tomorrow. But I hope that explanation satisfies you.

Cheers and have a wonderful day!

LegalWolf:
Brother TenQ just copy and paste. He goes to a website, copy and paste (or perhaps use Google translate) what he finds and half-baked people like advocatejare will think he knows. Or probably smart. That is the annoying thing. I call his intellectualism 'Nzogbu Nzogbu Iberiberism'. LOL!

Bunch of clowns!

Lukuluku69:
Akhi,

Well said.

As a matter of fact, I have been looking forward to having a Convo with a Christian devoid of the insults and abuses the ones on Nairaland are known for.

They start by subtle dig at your person and if that does not give them the desire response, they go for the Ultimate prize: they start insulting The Prophet!

Knowingly fully well that you as a Muslim can't say the same thing to the one they hold in reverence.

AntiChristian:
I'm amazed at this guy's ignorance! He doesn't even know the letter "Allah" starts with!

I even once explained with Yoruba Grammar contractions and he brushed me off.

Lukuluku69:
Akhi,

Well said.

As a matter of fact, I have been looking forward to having a Convo with a Christian devoid of the insults and abuses the ones on Nairaland are known for.

They start by subtle dig at your person and if that does not give them the desire response, they go for the Ultimate prize: they start insulting The Prophet!

Knowingly fully well that you as a Muslim can't say the same thing to the one they hold in reverence.

TenQ:
I have highlighted your STUPIDITY in yellow. And I used to think you were learned.
Like example:
The Best Chairman
The Erudite Chairman
The Eloquent Chairman
According to LegalWolf, Chairman is the NAME and Best, Erudite and Eloquent are TITLES

TenQ:
HAVE YOU SEEN YOUR IGNORANCE IN FULL DISPLAY?

I NEVER read in the Qur'an where Mohammed called Allah the compound name of
1. ALLAH-AL-QUDDUS
2. ALLAH-AS-SALAM
You might want to Educate me. You must have read the Qur'an up to 20 times so, you should know better than me

TenQ:
After going round and round and round again in circles. You have come to my first page to you this morning claiming that
1. El or Al mean DEITY
2. El or Al both belong to the SEMITIC language consisting of Hebrew, Arabic, Aramaic
3. Al-Lah mean "Deity Lah"

TenQ:
Please give a break: repair your faulty logic first. It's like teaching a court jester how to play chess. He will surely give you headaches as I have just from chatting with you.

Please, let's wrap it up till another topic.

LegalWolf:
Smiles, beloved brother. Of course, I know before I begin that there is nothing I tell you that will make you change your beliefs. However, you asked for my opinion and that I will give you. But three core points may be stated here
....

LegalWolf:
Beloved brother Hissplendor

You asked for my opinion and I have taken the time to articulate my thoughts on the question. You didn't let me know whether you find my explanation satisfactory or not. The implication on future discourse is this: I may decide not to take my time to explain to you or others in future.

One stray advocatejare wants me to engage him but he is not adequately credentialed. TenQ on the other hand is all about 'Nzogbu Nzogbu Iberiberism' styled intellectualism. His argument is always ad buculum with a sprinkle of ad hominem. A person who claims 'El or Al mean Deity' and 'Allah mean Deity LAH' without any strand of credible evidence is not worth spending time on.

You are the only one standing. If you agree with my opinion clearly spelt out here:



Let me know. If not, tell me the reasons for your disagreement and let us take it further from there. All non-credentialed people who responds to this post would languish in my mentions as always. Strikethrough and Delete Button all the way for them!

Love and respect for you, always!

TenQ:
Taqqiyya, as learnt from his beloved yhwh

LegalWolf:
?

LegalWolf:
Beloved brother His-splendor

You asked for my opinion and I have taken the time to articulate my thoughts on the question. You didn't let me know whether you find my explanation satisfactory or not. The implication on future discourse is this: I may decide not to take my time to explain to you or others in future.

One stray advocate jare wants me to engage him but he is not adequately credentialed. TenQ on the other hand is all about 'Nzogbu Nzogbu Iberiberism' styled intellectualism. His argument is always ad buculum with a sprinkle of ad hominem. A person who claims 'El or Al mean Deity' and 'Allah mean Deity LAH' without any strand of credible evidence is not worth spending time on.

You are the only one standing. If you agree with my opinion clearly spelt out here:



Let me know. If not, tell me the reasons for your disagreement and let us take it further from there. All non-credentialed people who responds to this post would languish in my mentions as always. Strikethrough and Delete Button all the way for them!

Love and respect for you, always!

TenQ:
!

LegalWolf:
?

LegalWolf:
Smiles, beloved brother. Of course, I know before I begin that there is nothing I tell you that will make you change your beliefs. However, you asked for my opinion and that I will give you. But three core points may be stated here:

1. I do not claim to know God's intention. In fact, the way I conceive it is that God ABSOLUTELY knows the innermost recesses of my thoughts while I am perpetually incapable of knowing HIS intention.

2. But the statement above needs to be properly caveated: I can only rationalize but not know what God intends. Muslim ends many arguments by saying 'Allahu Ahlam' meaning God knows. So that attribute of knowing 'why' he does things is left to HIM and HIM alone.

3. Finally, I am a Muslim for so many reasons and perhaps one of the interesting ones is that Islam admonishes us to think, to self-reflect and find knowledge wherever possible. This to mind clearly demonstrates the superiority of Islam above other religion (of course, I know you think otherwise. But that is my opinion). Now to the issues at hand:



Apologies accepted. We do not need to bicker and hurl insults when discussing serious issues of faith. Or do we?



This is the core of my opinion (of course, rationalizing Allah's thoughts and touching on the questions as formulated by the OP):

Premises
1. The starting point we should know is that 'actions are judged according to intentions' .

2. The second premise we should know is something called 'Interpretatio graeca'. Simply explained, in clash of cultures, some cultures tend to borrow the name of a God of another.

3. Lastly, in Islam, we believe every community (or probably culture) has a prophet.

Argument

I have been looking for the best way to couch this argument but I am in a hurry as I need to attend to other matters. So properly constructing an argument and drawing pieces of evidence from several cultures may not be appropriate at this time. But when I have time and I want to revisit the matter, I will.

But to simply restate the point, the Al-Mighty God I worship knows who is been referred to when a culture appropriates a name of another God for it. Let me give you an example that readily comes to mind. When TenQ, who I always assume to be a Yoruba, prays to God that 'Olorun help me', God ought to know that he is not referring to the head of the Yoruba pantheon also called Olorun or Eledumare but 'El Shaddai'.

Take the example further, If Advocatejare Great Grandfather- a person I also assume to be Yoruba and who probably worships Esu, prays that Esu should help him. He is certainly referring to Esu as a member of the Yoruba pantheon of Gods and not the Biblical Satan. But look at we have: Olorun has been approximated to El Shaddai and this continues to this day. Same with Esu to Satan and this continues to this day!

El Shaddai has sent these prophets to there people and the culture preceding them has approximated Yhwh (who I believe to be completely different) to El Shaddai. But my strong opinion is that God in his infinite mercies know that who they are referring to by that name is El Shaddai just as he knows that when TenQ calls Olorun, he is referring to HIM. Speculatively, the prophet God sent to the Yoruba people (if any) may have been Olorun something!

This is my opinion as rationalized! Allah knows best and I know lukuluku69 or AntiChristian may share the same views with me or disagree. We all cannot know Allah's thought as I said earlier. Again ALLAHU AHLAM!




Thank you for the compliments. I may not be able to respond to later tonight or early morning of tomorrow. But I hope that explanation satisfies you.

Cheers and have a wonderful day!

HisSplendor:
The name is important because it was given to him by his Creator. The name reveals many things:

1. Yahweh is the God of Angel Jubril, not Allah.

2. Yahweh is the Creator of Angel Jubril, not Allah

3. Yahweh is the God of all the Angels, not Allah

4. Yahweh is the One worshiped in Heaven, not Allah

5. Allah is an imposter who only used Yahweh's Prophets, Servants and Angel to promote himself as the true God.

6. The angel that visited Mohammed is not the original Jubril. An angel whose God is Yahweh to whom he has pledged allegiance cannot deliver a message for Allah whom he does not serve or worship.

7. All the claims of the Quran are spurious claims if the names of the angel, prophets and servants alluded to clearly honours Yahweh and not Allah. Yahweh is the true God of the prophets.

CC:
TenQ, Advocatejare, Sixfiguresmart, Speaklove.

HisSplendor:
Dearly Beloved Legalwolf, glad to read from you again.

I read your response in a hurry yesterday but couldn't offer a reply because I was so busy. Up till this very moment, I do not have much time but I cannot afford to leave you waiting for my response for too long. I actually apologise for the late reply.

To be honest, I just skimmed hurriedly through your response. There
are other mentions waiting but I'll let them wait for now. I suppose that, in summary, your argument is that the occurence of 'Yahweh'' in the names of those prophets is due to cultural clash. I hope I'm correct.

Actually, this escuse is not tenable because there's no evidence of any culturalural intercourse which could have served as a foundation for a clash.

Note that 'Yahweh' is not a generic name. It is the proper name of the God of Israel. The prophets in question are not Arabian prophets, they're also Israel's prophets.

The first person to introduce 'Yahweh' as God's proper name to the Israelites was Moses. Moses founded the religion that produced those prophets, and as expected, the served and worshipped Moses's God as do all the people of Israel.

God's proper name appended to their names tells us many things.

1. The God these prophets worshipped.

2. The God that Moses worshiped.

3. The God in whose name these prophets prophesied.

4. The God whose messages they delivered.

5. The God David praised in the Psalms, some copies of which are copied into the Quran was Yahweh, not Allah.

6. The real God that Moses actually pointed the people to was Yahweh.

7. Allah didn't give them their names.

Please understand that the Jews have always been as loyal to Moses as Muslims are loyal to Mohammed. They can kill for Moses's sake.

There's no way they could have deviated from Moses' God. Moses too didn't bring them any new God, he only brought them closer to the God of their father, Abraham.

Considering the above permutations, a big question mark rests on the claims of the quoran which presupposes that these prophets were Allah's prophets. These prophets clearly were the prophets of Yahweh and not Allah as revealed by their names. They submitted to Yahweh and not Allah.

Though, I'm not knowledgeable about the Quran and Islam in general, so, I don't even know what issue I must address. But, if Mohammad had told you that Abraham, Isaac, Moses or even Jesus served Allah, there's no truth in such. Jesus means 'Yahweh'is Salvation.' How could He possibly be a Muslim, a worshippers of Allah.

And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the LORD searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts... (1Chronicles 28:9).

David told Solomon his son to know his God. Note that, David himself served the God of his own father whose name was Jesse, which means Yahweh Exists. Who was David's God? Yahweh.

There's no confusion as to who these prophets served. It they've named themselves after several Gods, then we wouldn't have known for sure. But, over a period spanning 3,000yrs, the only name of any God they've attached to their names right from Moses has been Yahweh.

Allah didn't borrow their names for his own prophet but rather he imported them into Islam. There's no cultural clash at all. No culture was involved.

I have many things to stil say in support of my position but for time, I'll stop here.

My special regards, dearly beloved brother.

LegalWolf:
Beloved Hissplendor,

Somewhat somehow, I got the long hand of a ban from a (drunk) mod on this platform. What was my offense? I was told I breached one Rule 11 or so that has to do with capitalizing words etc. Anyways, I am back like I never left. But let me give you heads-up: I have a personal matter to attend at one GCC embassy in London very early tomorrow. So I will set out to that city very soon and give you a detailed response when I am back tomorrow. Or at worst, on Tuesday.

That said, I think you have drifted off the topic with your long explanation. The OP presented certain things that amounts to a 'dilemma' for Muslims. I therefore set out to explain what he considers a dilemma for Muslims from a logical standpoint is nothing of such for us. I am not here to convince you of the inexplicable, say for example, 3+3+3 = 3. You will agree with me that that is not what I am here to do and even that equation is mathematically inaccurate, wouldn't you?

And explanation must be grounded in logic. Not the ones one potential thief like TenQ makes which is is so outrageous in its defiance of logic that no sensible person whose head is properly attached to his neck will make. Neither do I Intend to give platforms to one advocatejare who apparently is an homo but impossible to be to sapiens.

Anyways, I will get back to you soon and do have a lovely day. Some Christians claim today is shabbath... I think you should rest too

LegalWolf:
Beloved Hissplendor,

Somewhat somehow, I got the long hand of a ban from a (drunk) mod on this platform. What was my offense? I was told I breached one Rule 11 or so that has to do with capitalizing words etc. Anyways, I am back like I never left. But let me give you heads-up: I have a personal matter to attend at one GCC embassy in London very early tomorrow. So I will set out to that city very soon and give you a detailed response when I am back tomorrow. Or at worst, on Tuesday.

That said, I think you have drifted off the topic with your long explanation. The OP presented certain things that amounts to a 'dilemma' for Muslims. I therefore set out to explain what he considers a dilemma for Muslims from a logical standpoint is nothing of such for us. I am not here to convince you of the inexplicable, say for example, 3+3+3 = 3. You will agree with me that that is not what I am here to do and even that equation is mathematically inaccurate, wouldn't you?

And explanation must be grounded in logic. Not the ones one potential thief like TenQ makes which is is so outrageous in its defiance of logic that no sensible person whose head is properly attached to his neck will make. Neither do I Intend to give platforms to one advocatejare who apparently is an homo but impossible to be to sapiens.

Anyways, I will get back to you soon and do have a lovely day. Some Christians claim today is shabbath... I think you should rest too

TenQ:
Of course,
That is exactly why you've not been able to explain how
1. The Messiah is a MAN
2. The Messiah is a SPIRIT
3. The Messiah is a WORD from Allah

LegalWolf:
Mr TenQ

Could you please make use of that organ in your skull that the Almighty has endowed you with. Of what basis is this your question to what the OP asked? Intellectualism should not be by Nzogbu Nzogbu Iberiberism for God sake!

Anyways, I note with delight one stray LegalWolf, Muhmmad and Allah who wants to get me banned the second time. Lol, your prayers would not work. You are not credentialed to get a response from me and when you do, come back here. Then, I’ll send one of my boys to engage you.

LegalWolf:
Mr TenQ

Could you please make use of that organ in your skull that the Almighty has endowed you with. Of what basis is this your question to what the OP asked? Intellectualism should not be by Nzogbu Nzogbu Iberiberism for God sake!

Anyways, I note with delight one stray advocatejare who wants to get me banned the second time. Lol, your prayers would not work. You are not credentialed to get a response from me and when you do, come back here. Then, I’ll send one of my boys to engage you.

TenQ:
Why have you gone mute on the question,
That is exactly why you've not been able to explain how
1. The Messiah is a MAN
2. The Messiah is a SPIRIT
3. The Messiah is a WORD from Allah


Have you now found the answer?

LegalWolf:
Lol, was I ever looking for the answer?

HisSplendor:
Dearly Beloved Legalwolf, glad to read from you again.

I read your response in a hurry yesterday but couldn't offer a reply because I was so busy. Up till this very moment, I do not have much time but I cannot afford to leave you waiting for my response for too long. I actually apologise for the late reply.

To be honest, I just skimmed hurriedly through your response. There
are other mentions waiting but I'll let them wait for now.

HisSplendor:
I suppose that, in summary, your argument is that the occurence of 'Yahweh'' in the names of those prophets is due to cultural clash. I hope I'm correct.

HisSplendor:
Actually, this escuse is not tenable because there's no evidence of any culturalural intercourse which could have served as a foundation for a clash.

Note that 'Yahweh' is not a generic name. It is the proper name of the God of Israel. The prophets in question are not Arabian prophets, they're also Israel's prophets.

The first person to introduce 'Yahweh' as God's proper name to the Israelites was Moses. Moses founded the religion that produced those prophets, and as expected, the served and worshipped Moses's God as do all the people of Israel.

HisSplendor:
God's proper name appended to their names tells us many things.

1. The God these prophets worshipped.

2. The God that Moses worshiped.

3. The God in whose name these prophets prophesied.

4. The God whose messages they delivered.

5. The God David praised in the Psalms, some copies of which are copied into the Quran was Yahweh, not Allah.

6. The real God that Moses actually pointed the people to was Yahweh.

7. Allah didn't give them their names.

HisSplendor:
Please understand that the Jews have always been as loyal to Moses as Muslims are loyal to Mohammed. They can kill for Moses's sake.

There's no way they could have deviated from Moses' God. Moses too didn't bring them any new God, he only brought them closer to the God of their father, Abraham.

Considering the above permutations, a big question mark rests on the claims of the quoran which presupposes that these prophets were Allah's prophets. These prophets clearly were the prophets of Yahweh and not Allah as revealed by their names. They submitted to Yahweh and not Allah.

HisSplendor:
Though, I'm not knowledgeable about the Quran and Islam in general, so, I don't even know what issue I must address. But, if Mohammad had told you that Abraham, Isaac, Moses or even Jesus served Allah, there's no truth in such. Jesus means 'Yahweh'is Salvation.' How could He possibly be a Muslim, a worshippers of Allah.

And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the LORD searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts... (1Chronicles 28:9).

David told Solomon his son to know his God. Note that, David himself served the God of his own father whose name was Jesse, which means Yahweh Exists. Who was David's God? Yahweh.

There's no confusion as to who these prophets served. It they've named themselves after several Gods, then we wouldn't have known for sure. But, over a period spanning 3,000yrs, the only name of any God they've attached to their names right from Moses has been Yahweh.

Allah didn't borrow their names for his own prophet but rather he imported them into Islam. There's no cultural clash at all. No culture was involved.

I have many things to stil say in support of my position but for time, I'll stop here.

My special regards, dearly beloved brother.