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Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by LegalWolf: 12:37pm On Dec 18, 2022

Hey TenQ

I have read your comments and response to many on this platform and I am of the firm view that the premise of your argument has been clearly explained to you before. So I would not stress an inch explaining what you already know to be false. But I have one interesting question that troubles my soul (mind you - you HAVE NEVER ANSWERED ANY QUESTION THAT TROUBLED MY SOUL BEFORE). Maybe you will be of help.

I have read somewhere (I think in one of your comments here on this platform BUT certainly from several places) that God is like a title. And this raises interesting questions for me: Biblically

- who are those entitled to take the title (I mean the criteria that must be satisfied)?
- why is limited to these people alone?
- can I take the title?
- if yes, what can I do biblically to take the title of God?
- if no, why is the title of God foreclosed against me?

In similar religions to Christianity where there are pantheons of gods, at least the pathway is clear. For example, in hellenistic religion, I know the things to do to be deified and take the title God. Same thing with roman, habe and yoruba traditional religion. After all, julius ceaser was once human before being deified.

How sweet would it be for humonoids like advocatejare to worship me. In prayers, he will say something like God the Father, the Son and the LegalWolf. Interesting, isn't it ! (Actually, I do not mind coming after the holy ghost) So, in that case, we will be four Father + Son + Holy Ghost + LegalWolf = God grin

Like my fellow gods, I want to shabbath like it was done in Gen 2: 2- 3. Talk to you tomorrow or on Tuesday!

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by TenQ(op): 1:38pm On Dec 18, 2022

LegalWolf:
Hey TenQ

I have read your comments and response to many on this platform and I am of the firm view that the premise of your argument has been clearly explained to you before.

No sir!
If this is true, what is the summary?

LegalWolf:
So I would not stress an inch explaining what you already know to be false. But I have one interesting question that troubles my soul (mind you - you HAVE NEVER ANSWERED ANY QUESTION THAT TROUBLED MY SOUL BEFORE). Maybe you will be of help.

See the person who has dodged answering nothing less than 85% of my questions claiming nonsense!

LegalWolf:
I have read somewhere (I think in one of your comments here on this platform BUT certainly from several places) that God is like a title. And this raises interesting questions for me: Biblically

God is a TITLE!
God is NOT like a title!

LegalWolf:
- who are those entitled to take the title (I mean the criteria that must be satisfied)?
- why is limited to these people alone?
- can I take the title?
- if yes, what can I do biblically to take the title of God?
- if no, why is the title of God foreclosed against me?

In similar religions to Christianity where there are pantheons of gods, at least the pathway is clear. For example, in hellenistic religion, I know the things to do to be deified and take the title God. Same thing with roman, habe and yoruba traditional religion. After all, julius ceaser was once human before being deified.

How sweet would it be for humonoids like advocatejare to worship me. In prayers, he will say something like God the Father, the Son and the LegalWolf. Interesting, isn't it ! (Actually, I do not mind coming after the holy ghost) So, in that case, we will be four Father + Son + Holy Ghost + LegalWolf = God

Like my fellow gods, I want to shabbath like it was done in Gen 2: 2- 3. Talk to you tomorrow or on Tuesday!

God/god is a title in exactly the same way DADDY or FATHER is a title.
God/god simply means DEITY: and anything that is worshipped is a deity.

Even though you are being sinister, I should lecture you like a baby:
1. We use the term "God" with first character capitalized to mean the CREATOR
2. We use the term "god" with first character in lower case to mean any other deity apart from the Creator.

You want to become a deity (a god)!
Very easy!
All you need to do is assemble people who will recognise you as divine and bingo, you are one!

-Allah is your Deity
-Yahwey is my Deity
Vishnu or Tor or Ogun or Oya is another person's deity.

Your Father is not my Father just like my Father is not your Father. Both of us calling our father Father or Daddy does not mean they are the same.

To claim the title of God is NOT closed against YOU, all you need to do is to CREATE EVERYTHING seen and unseen - Shikenan!

Now that I've answered ALL your questions, will you please be kind to answer mine?
1. Is the Soul and Spirit the same?
2. Is the Spirit an attribute of Allah or Creation of Allah
3. If the spirit is a creation of Allah, Is the spirit a Living Being or non-living?

Three simple questions!

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Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by LegalWolf: 2:19pm On Dec 18, 2022

LOL, I love catching you by the balls.

TenQ:
No sir!
If this is true, what is the summary?

TenQ:
See the person who has dodged answering nothing less than 85% of my questions claiming nonsense!

Christians with dubious statistics... Hahahaha that was how one of them said '80%' of the time when people don't answer questions, they don't know it. Lol, is the 85% from National Bureau of Statistics or World Bank report?

TenQ:
God is a TITLE!
God is NOT like a title!

God/god is a title in exactly the same way DADDY or FATHER is a title.
God/god simply means DEITY: and anything that is worshipped is a deity.

I am quite certain I have read it somewhere that you said this. Wait, is father/dad - understood in the context of biological parent - a title? Lecture me please! And what is a title?

TenQ:
Even though you are being sinister, I should lecture you like a baby:
1. We use the term "God" with first character capitalized to mean the CREATOR
2. We use the term "god" with first character in lower case to mean any other deity apart from the Creator.

That is your business on how I am being sinister or how you use the term god. I want to be a Biblical God like the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Simple. Do you want me to repeat the four questions again?

Now I am asking you FOUR SIMPLE questions on how I can take the title of God Biblically! How difficult can that be? Since it is a title like Chairman, Director, Professor (not erroneously like father) etc.. it is something that can be assumed IF YOU QUALIFY for it. So I am asking for the qualification of the Biblical Title God? I want advocatejare to add me to the trinitarian formula. If Father + Son + Holy Spirit = 1 , why is the addition of legalwolf a problem?

Fvcking open your bible to tell me the answer and stop running around the bush like a naked animal!

TenQ:
You want to become a deity (a god)!
Very easy!
All you need to do is assemble people who will recognise you as divine and bingo, you are one!

-Allah is your Deity
-Yahwey is my Deity
Vishnu or Tor or Ogun or Oya is another person's deity.

Do you want me to repeat the question again?

TenQ:
Your Father is not my Father just like my Father is not your Father. Both of us calling our father Father or Daddy does not mean they are the same.

To claim the title of God is NOT closed against YOU, all you need to do is to CREATE EVERYTHING seen and unseen - Shikenan!

Waru TenQ (you've made me speak fulfude but no problem), I asked you to cite the Bible. I want to see Biblical evidence that Jesus created everything both unseen and seen before he took the title God. Same with Holy Spirit. Unambiguous biblical evidence!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Because if those two can take it, why not me? Advocatejare MUST worship me whether he likes it or not grin

TenQ:
Now that I've answered ALL your questions, will you please be kind to answer mine?
1. Is the Soul and Spirit the same?
2. Is the Spirit an attribute of Allah or Creation of Allah
3. If the spirit is a creation of Allah, Is the spirit a Living Being or non-living?

Three simple questions!

What useless question did you answer? Where are your bible verses?

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by TenQ(op): 3:27pm On Dec 18, 2022

LegalWolf:
LOL, I love catching you by the balls.

?
Christians with dubious statistics... Hahahaha that was how one of them said '80%' of the time when people don't answer questions, they don't know it. Lol, is the 85% from National Bureau of Statistics or World Bank report?

I am quite certain I have read it somewhere that you said this. Wait, is father/dad - understood in the context of biological parent - a title? Lecture me please! And what is a title?

That is your business on how I am being sinister or how you use the term god. I want to be a Biblical God like the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Simple. Do you want me to repeat the four questions again?

You are a time waster!

LegalWolf:
Now I am asking you FOUR SIMPLE questions on how I can take the title of God Biblically! How difficult can that be? Since it is a title like Chairman, Director, Professor (not erroneously like father) etc.. it is something that can be assumed IF YOU QUALIFY for it. So I am asking for the qualification of the Biblical Title God? I want advocatejare to add me to the trinitarian formula. If Father + Son + Holy Spirit = 1 , why is the addition of legalwolf a problem?

I've answered you!
I said:
To claim the title of God is NOT closed against YOU, all you need to do is to CREATE EVERYTHING seen and unseen - Shikenan!

LegalWolf:
Fvcking open your bible to tell me the answer and stop running around the bush like a naked animal!
Do you want me to repeat the question again?

Waru TenQ (you've made me speak fulfude but no problem), I asked you to cite the Bible. I want to see Biblical evidence that Jesus created everything both unseen and seen before he took the title God. Same with Holy Spirit. Unambiguous biblical evidence!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Because if those two can take it, why not me? Advocatejare MUST worship me whether he likes it or not

Colossian 1:15-18
15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16[b] For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. [/b]18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.

LegalWolf:
What useless question did you answer? Where are your bible verses?

Mr LegalWolf, Answer my Question please.
Do you think it is praiseworthy or portray you as smart when you avoid answering questions?
No!
It actually prove that you are at best IGNORANT!

Now that I've answered ALL your questions, will you please be kind to answer mine?
1. Is the Soul and Spirit the same?
2. Is the Spirit an attribute of Allah or Creation of Allah
3. If the spirit is a creation of Allah, Is the spirit a Living Being or non-living?

Three simple questions!

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by TenQ(op): 3:55pm On Dec 18, 2022

AntiChristian:
Which verse specially defines body, soul and spirit as above?

The same verse that defined the Shahada and Taoheed in the Quran!

AntiChristian:
I think we are done about Islam as regards this. Allah is not a spirit/soul! He created them.

I get your point
1. Allah is not a spirit
2. Allah created the spirit
Then Answer my Questions: its not enough to recite "recitations", it is about JUSTIFYING what you've memorised.

If you say that
According to Islam, a spirit a creation of God; good!

Then you will have to tell us IF this creation of God is "LIVING" (Alive) or "NOT-LIVING"!

So,
Is the spirit which is a creation of God is "LIVING" (Alive) or "NOT-LIVING"?

I assume you have agreed that a Soul (Nafs) is not the same thing as a spirit (Ruh)!

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by LegalWolf: 4:00pm On Dec 18, 2022

TenQ:
You are a time waster!

I've answered you!
I said:
To claim the title of God is NOT closed against YOU, all you need to do is to CREATE EVERYTHING seen and unseen - Shikenan!

Colossian 1:15-18
15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16[b] For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. [/b]18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.

Mr LegalWolf, Answer my Question please.
Do you think it is praiseworthy or portray you as smart when you avoid answering questions?
No!
It actually prove that you are at best IGNORANT!

Now that I've answered ALL your questions, will you please be kind to answer mine?
1. Is the Soul and Spirit the same?
2. Is the Spirit an attribute of Allah or Creation of Allah
3. If the spirit is a creation of Allah, Is the spirit a Living Being or non-living?

Three simple questions!

Lol, you did not answer my question - for in him is completely different from he created something. Look at the biblical creation story in Genesis 1. Was the sky, water etc created through him or BY him? I’m concerned about BY not through Mr. Prosecution TenQ!

What about Holy Ghost fire!!!!! There’s no mention anywhere, or is there?

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by TenQ(op): 4:12pm On Dec 18, 2022

LegalWolf:
Lol, you did not answer my question - for in him is completely different from he created something. Look at the biblical creation story in Genesis 1. Was the sky, water etc created through him or BY him? I’m concerned about BY not through Mr. Prosecution TenQ!

What about Holy Ghost fire!!!!! There’s no mention anywhere, or is there?

Do you need a refereher course in English?

Colossian 1:15-18
15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16[b] For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. [/b]18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.

NOW Mr LegalWolf, Answer my Question please.
Do you think it is praiseworthy or portray you as smart when you avoid answering questions?
No!
It actually prove that you are at best IGNORANT!

Now that I've answered ALL your questions, will you please be kind to answer mine?
1. Is the Soul and Spirit the same?
2. Is the Spirit an attribute of Allah or Creation of Allah
3. If the spirit is a creation of Allah, Is the spirit a Living Being or non-living?

Three simple questions!

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by AntiChristian: 4:52pm On Dec 18, 2022

TenQ:
The same verse that defined the Shahada and Taoheed in the Quran!

Expatiate and let's see the extent of your ignorance!

I get your point
1. Allah is not a spirit
2. Allah created the spirit
Then Answer my Questions: its not enough to recite "recitations", it is about JUSTIFYING what you've memorised.

If you say that
According to Islam, a spirit a creation of God; good!

Then you will have to tell us IF this creation of God is "LIVING" (Alive) or "NOT-LIVING"!

So,
Is the spirit which is a creation of God is "LIVING" (Alive) or "NOT-LIVING"?

I assume you have agreed that a Soul (Nafs) is not the same thing as a spirit (Ruh)!

Soul=Spirit! I don't know how many times I want to stress this.

When God created Adam did He blow soul and spirit separately or together?

Adam was Earth and spirit/soul!

You should tell us if the spirit/soul created for Adam was already living!

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by TenQ(op): 5:01pm On Dec 18, 2022

AntiChristian:
Expatiate and let's see the extent of your ignorance!

Soul=Spirit! I don't know how many times I want to stress this.

When God created Adam did He blow soul and spirit separately or together?

Adam was Earth and spirit/soul!

You should tell us if the spirit/soul created for Adam was already living!

1. Verses speaking of the spirit as an attribute of Allah and showing that the Soul is NOT the same as the spirit. All you need to do is substitute the word SPIRIT with SOUL and the meaning of the verses will break down completely.

What does it mean for Allah to have a Soul?

Quran 15:29
So when I have fashioned him and I breath into him of my Spirit, ~~SOUL~~ fall down to him in prostration.

Qur'an 21:91
And she who guarded her virginity, so We breathed into her of Our spirit (roohina) ~~SOUL~~ and appointed her and her son to be a sign unto all beings.

Qur'an 4:171
O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit ~~SOUL~~ from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three" - Cease! (it is) better for you! - Allah is only One Allah. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.

What is the SOUL of Allah?
Don't forget you said Allah doesn't have a soul!

As you can clearly see, substitution of the word SOUL for SPIRIT is not synonymous

Here, It seems that the spirit of Allah is an Uncreated Attribute of Allah because Allah used phrases like "my spirit" , "our spirit", "Jesus himself was a spirit from Allah" and then, "Jesus was strengthened with the Holy Spirit".

2. If you say that the Spirit is NOT an Attribute of Allah but a CREATION of Allah, then, we must establish this second Question:
Is the spirit a [b]living or non-living CREATION of Allah?[/b]

So,
Is the spirit a [b]animate or inanimate CREATION of Allah?[/b]

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Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by AntiChristian: 5:38pm On Dec 18, 2022

TenQ:
1. Verses speaking of the spirit as an attribute of Allah and showing that the Soul is NOT the same as the spirit. All you need to do is substitute the word SPIRIT with SOUL and the meaning of the verses will break down completely.

What does it mean for Allah to have a Soul?

Quran 15:29
So when I have fashioned him and I breath into him of my Spirit, ~~SOUL~~ fall down to him in prostration.

Qur'an 21:91
And she who guarded her virginity, so We breathed into her of Our spirit (roohina) ~~SOUL~~ and appointed her and her son to be a sign unto all beings.

Qur'an 4:171
O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit ~~SOUL~~ from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three" - Cease! (it is) better for you! - Allah is only One Allah. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.

What is the SOUL of Allah?
Don't forget you said Allah doesn't have a soul!

As you can clearly see, substitution of the word SOUL for SPIRIT is not synonymous

They still mean the same thing! The spirit of each and every man comes from Allah! It is the spirit or soul from Allah created for that person! This is the context of all of the verses you quoted!
Where did Adam and Jesus get their soul from if spirit is not same as soul? Even your Bible can't explain this. Soul still remains spirit!

Here, It seems that the spirit of Allah is an Uncreated Attribute of Allah because Allah used phrases like "my spirit" , "our spirit", "Jesus himself was a spirit from Allah" and then, "Jesus was strengthened with the Holy Spirit".

Where did Allah tell you he had a spirit that moves over water like the Bible? Allah mentions spirit/Soul mostly when creation is involved!

Spirit is not an attribute of Allah!
Jesus, Adam and everyone are spirit from Allah! Jesus was honored to be called such! Abraham was the friend of Allah. That doesn't mean others are not.

And holy spirit is Gabriel in Islam!

2. If you say that the Spirit is NOT an Attribute of Allah but a CREATION of Allah, then, we must establish this second Question:
Is the spirit a [b]living or non-living CREATION of Allah?[/b]

So,
Is the spirit a [b]animate or inanimate CREATION of Allah?[/b]

We don't classify creations biologically from the scripture! This makes no sense?

The soul/spirit are creations of Allah created for a particular body!

The soul will remain after it departs the body, and it will ascend and descend, and it will be returned to the body, and the deceased will be questioned, then he will be subjected to bliss or punishment.

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by TenQ(op): 5:58pm On Dec 18, 2022

AntiChristian:
They still mean the same thing! The spirit of each and every man comes from Allah! It is the spirit or soul from Allah created for that person! This is the context of all of the verses you quoted!
Where did Adam and Jesus get their soul from if spirit is not same as soul? Even your Bible can't explain this. Soul still remains spirit!

Where did Allah tell you he had a spirit that moves over water like the Bible? Allah mentions spirit/Soul mostly when creation is involved!

Spirit is not an attribute of Allah!
Jesus, Adam and everyone are spirit from Allah! Jesus was honored to be called such! Abraham was the friend of Allah. That doesn't mean others are not.

And holy spirit is Gabriel in Islam!

We don't classify creations biologically from the scripture! This makes no sense?

The soul/spirit are creations of Allah created for a particular body!

The soul will remain after it departs the body, and it will ascend and descend, and it will be returned to the body, and the deceased will be questioned, then he will be subjected to bliss or punishment.

Just substitute SOUL for spirit in the three verses I quoted and see if it still makes sense.

If God speaks about his SOUL, how else can you interpret it to mean a creation of God!?

I asked you if the spirit was living thing or not: because everything God created is divided into two classes , Living and Non-living.
Angels, Animals, Man, Jinns, are ALL living.
Planets, Stars, Mountain, Sea, Elements are ALL Non-living!

You indeed have a problem in your hand
1. If spirit is non-living, how come Jubril is according to Muslims the living holy spirit? Meaning that the spirit is living
2. If spirit is living, it proves that Jesus was living before he was blown into Mary's VJ!

Either way, you are confused!

That is why it is impossible for a Muslim to define the term spirit!

Nafs NOT the same as Ruh!

Check the two verses below: I have replaced the word spirit with soul.
What does it mean for Allah to have a Soul?

Quran 15:29
So when I have fashioned him and I breath into him of my SOUL, fall down to him in prostration.

Qur'an 21:91
And she who guarded her virginity, so We breathed into her of Our SOUL (Nafs) and appointed her and her son to be a sign unto all beings.

All humans have the soul, does Allah also have the soul?

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Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by advocatejare(m): 6:25pm On Dec 18, 2022

LegalWolf:
I want advocatejare to add me to the trinitarian formula. If Father + Son + Holy Spirit = 1 , why is the addition of legalwolf a problem?

Ask Allah to add you to include the “we” and “us” in the Quran

Won’t you like to be part of them?

” We know very well what they say, when the best of them in his ways will say, “You did not remain more than one day.”” (Quran, 20:102—104)

“It is We who have sent down the Remembrance [i.e., the Quran].” (Quran, 15:9)

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by LegalWolf: 6:42pm On Dec 18, 2022

I think I probably missed this. Got distracted with more worthwhile human endeavours and people. Anyways I’ll answer you briefly.

TenQ:
Do you need a refereher course in English?

Lol

And can you remind me of the difference between made of and made from? I guess you were taught this in school, weren’t you? If not, you can ask the stray advocatejare to help you. Not that I’ll respond to his mentions, but he can whisper the answers to your ears in case you don’t know!

TenQ:
Colossian 1:15-18
15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16[b] For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. [/b]18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.

It is your illiteracy for me. Ask anyone
Model 1 was created BY whO and they’ll tell you Carl Benz. But if asked through who/what and they’ll tell you wood, steel, etc. isn’t it?

Give me evidence that the seen and unseen was created BY Yehoshua and Holy Ghost and I’ll believe I do not qualify to be in the Pantheon of your gods!

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by LegalWolf: 6:44pm On Dec 18, 2022

advocatejare:
Ask yhwh to add legalwolf to include the “we” and “us” in the New Testament

Won’t you like to be part of them?

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by advocatejare(m): 6:58pm On Dec 18, 2022

LegalWolf:

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Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by advocatejare(m): 7:03pm On Dec 18, 2022

LegalWolf:
I think I probably missed this. Got distracted with more worthwhile human endeavours and people. Anyways I’ll answer you briefly.

Lol And can you remind me of the difference between made of and made from? I guess you were taught this in school, weren’t you? If not, you can ask the stray LegalWolf, Muhammad and Allah to help you. Not that I’ll respond to his mentions, but he can whisper the answers to your ears in case you don’t know!

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by TenQ(op): 9:01pm On Dec 18, 2022

LegalWolf:
I think I probably missed this. Got distracted with more worthwhile human endeavours and people. Anyways I’ll answer you briefly.

Lol And can you remind me of the difference between made of and made from? I guess you were taught this in school, weren’t you? If not, you can ask the stray advocatejare to help you. Not that I’ll respond to his mentions, but he can whisper the answers to your ears in case you don’t know!

It is your illiteracy for me. Ask anyone
Model 1 was created BY whO and they’ll tell you Carl Benz. But if asked through who/what and they’ll tell you wood, steel, etc. isn’t it?

Give me evidence that the seen and unseen was created BY Yehoshua and Holy Ghost and I’ll believe I do not qualify to be in the Pantheon of your gods!

All you need to do is to explain in your UNDERSTANDING what the scripture I quoted mean other that what it clearly says!
LOL!!

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by TenQ(op): 9:21pm On Dec 18, 2022

AntiChristian:
They still mean the same thing! The spirit of each and every man comes from Allah! It is the spirit or soul from Allah created for that person! This is the context of all of the verses you quoted!
Where did Adam and Jesus get their soul from if spirit is not same as soul? Even your Bible can't explain this. Soul still remains spirit!

Where did Allah tell you he had a spirit that moves over water like the Bible? Allah mentions spirit/Soul mostly when creation is involved!

Spirit is not an attribute of Allah!
Jesus, Adam and everyone are spirit from Allah! Jesus was honored to be called such! Abraham was the friend of Allah. That doesn't mean others are not.

And holy spirit is Gabriel in Islam!

We don't classify creations biologically from the scripture! This makes no sense?

The soul/spirit are creations of Allah created for a particular body!

The soul will remain after it departs the body, and it will ascend and descend, and it will be returned to the body, and the deceased will be questioned, then he will be subjected to bliss or punishment.

PART TWO:
I didn't ask you to classify spirits by biology: I asked if they were living or not living.
Angels have NOTHING to do with Biology: yet , they are ALIVE (LIVING)
Planets have NOTHING to do with Biology: yet , they are NOT LIVING!

But Jubril is a LIVING BEING: Isn't he?
And Jubril is a spirit: isn't he?
And Jubril is an Angel: Isn't he?

Therefore a spirit is a LIVING BEING!

Now, Before Jesus was conceived was He a Spirit or NOT?

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by AntiChristian: 9:53pm On Dec 18, 2022

TenQ:
PART TWO:
I didn't ask you to classify spirits by biology: I asked if they were living or not living.
Angels have NOTHING to do with Biology: yet , they are ALIVE (LIVING)
Planets have NOTHING to do with Biology: yet , they are NOT LIVING!

But Jubril is a LIVING BEING: Isn't he?
And Jubril is a spirit: isn't he?
And Jubril is an Angel: Isn't he?

Therefore a spirit is a LIVING BEING!

Now, Before Jesus was conceived was He a Spirit or NOT?

Biology defines living things!

Living things can move, respond to stimulus, eat, carry out respiration, excretion, grow, die....

A spirit/soul can't be defined along this line!

This is basic SS 1 biology MR NIGER DA.

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by TenQ(op): 9:55pm On Dec 18, 2022

AntiChristian:
Biology defines living things!

Living things can move, respond to stimulus, eat, carry out respiration, excretion, grow, die....

A spirit/soul can't be defined along this line!

This is basic SS 1 biology MR NIGER DA.

So, according to your knowledge of Islam, Angels are NOT living!?

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by AntiChristian: 10:04pm On Dec 18, 2022

TenQ:
So, according to your knowledge of Islam, Angels are NOT living!?

According to biology they are not!

They don't eat, reproduce, excrete , grow or die!

I mean the islamic Angels not your biblical ones that can impregnate and eat!

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by LegalWolf: 1:51am On Dec 19, 2022

TenQ:
All you need to do is to explain in your UNDERSTANDING what the scripture I quoted mean other that what it clearly says!
LOL!!

This is your first mention. Don’t get this interesting conversation muddled up and strayed like one advocatejare.

What is the basis of your question? I asked you to give me biblical evidence where Yehoshua or Holy Spirit created the seen and unseen and you’re talking kpa!

Is created by and created through the same thing? Fvcking open this Bible for me and bring out the verses.

I really want TenQ and advocatejare to add me to the “Quadrupity” and your pantheons of gods: Father + Son + Holy Spirit + LegalWolf = God !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remember, you’ve not answered my question as to whether father is a title and the meaning of the term.

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by LegalWolf: 1:59am On Dec 19, 2022

Brother,

I am very aware you have explained this thing to the potential thief called TenQ countlessly. I have gone through his posts and that’s why I told him from the outset that I won’t even break a sweat explaining to him.

AntiChristian:
According to biology they are not!

They don't eat, reproduce, excrete , grow or die!

I mean the islamic Angels not your biblical ones that can impregnate and eat!

However, there are alternatives to dealing with fraudsters like him and other stray humanoids like advocatejare. You use logic, common sense, sarcasm and absolutely ridicule to rubbish their thinking.

Never even stress yourself with them. Just have fun like you’re playing with an animal.

Enjoy yourself brother!

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by TenQ(op): 5:23am On Dec 19, 2022

LegalWolf:
This is your first mention. Don’t get this interesting conversation muddled up and strayed like one advocatejare.

What is the basis of your question? I asked you to give me biblical evidence where Yehoshua or Holy Spirit created the seen and unseen and you’re talking kpa!

Is created by and created through the same thing? Fvcking open this Bible for me and bring out the verses.

I really want TenQ and advocatejare to add me to the “Quadrupity” and your pantheons of gods: Father + Son + Holy Spirit + LegalWolf = God !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remember, you’ve not answered my question as to whether father is a title and the meaning of the term.

All you need to do is to explain in your UNDERSTANDING what the scripture I quoted mean other that what it clearly says!
LOL!!

NOW Mr LegalWolf, Answer my Question please.
Do you think it is praiseworthy or portray you as smart when you avoid answering questions?
No!
It actually prove that you are at best IGNORANT!

Now that I've answered ALL your questions, will you please be kind to answer mine?
1. Is the Soul and Spirit the same?
2. Is the Spirit an attribute of Allah or Creation of Allah
3. If the spirit is a creation of Allah, Is the spirit a Living Being or non-living?

Three simple questions!

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by TenQ(op): 5:50am On Dec 19, 2022

AntiChristian:
According to biology they are not!

They don't eat, reproduce, excrete , grow or die!

I mean the islamic Angels not your biblical ones that can impregnate and eat!

I am sure YOU know I didn't ask you about biology because Angels are not Physical Beings.

Well,
My own God Yahwey is ALIVE forevermore, if what you are saying is that Allah is NOT, so be it!
The Angels of my God are LIVING, if what you are saying is that the servants of Allah are NOT, so be it!
Jeremiah 10:10
But the Lord is the true God;
He is the living God and the everlasting King.
At His wrath the earth quakes,
And the nations cannot endure His indignation.

Deuteronomy 5:26
For who is there of all flesh who has heard the voice of the living God speaking from the midst of the fire, as we have, and lived?

On a serious note:
Why are you afraid of an obvious truth that Spirits are ALIVE and LIVING?
Is it because of the implications?

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by TenQ(op): 5:52am On Dec 19, 2022

AntiChristian:
Biology defines living things!

Living things can move, respond to stimulus, eat, carry out respiration, excretion, grow, die....

A spirit/soul can't be defined along this line!

This is basic SS 1 biology MR NIGER DA.

Is Allah LIVING or Not LIVING?

As you have said: Afterall, he doesn't move, respond to stimulus, eat, carry out respiration, excretion, grow, die....

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by AntiChristian: 6:44am On Dec 19, 2022

TenQ:
Is Allah LIVING or Not LIVING?

As you have said: Afterall, he doesn't move, respond to stimulus, eat, carry out respiration, excretion, grow, die....

We don't classify Allah according to biology!

We have been talking about spirit aka soul which is a creation of Allah!

Allah is Al-Ayyu! It's one of his names!

He is the Ever Living! Qu'ran 2:55.

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by AntiChristian: 6:47am On Dec 19, 2022

TenQ:
I am sure YOU know I didn't ask you about biology because Angels are not Physical Beings.

Well,
My own God Yahwey is ALIVE forevermore, if what you are saying is that Allah is NOT, so be it!
The Angels of my God are LIVING, if what you are saying is that the servants of Allah are NOT, so be it!
Jeremiah 10:10
But the Lord is the true God;
He is the living God and the everlasting King.
At His wrath the earth quakes,
And the nations cannot endure His indignation.

Deuteronomy 5:26
For who is there of all flesh who has heard the voice of the living God speaking from the midst of the fire, as we have, and lived?

On a serious note:
Why are you afraid of an obvious truth that Spirits are ALIVE and LIVING?
Is it because of the implications?

Allah is not a spirit like your God!
Allah created the spirit/Soul!
Allah is the Ever living!
Allah never dies!
Allah is one! One is one!

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by TenQ(op): 6:48am On Dec 19, 2022

AntiChristian:
Allah is not a spirit like your God!
Allah created the spirit/Soul!
Allah is the Ever living!
Allah never dies!
Allah is one! One is one!

The Question is simple:
Is Allah ALIVE or NOT?

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by TenQ(op): 6:50am On Dec 19, 2022

AntiChristian:
We don't classify Allah according to biology!

We have been talking about spirit aka soul which is a creation of Allah!

Allah is Al-Ayyu! It's one of his names!

He is the Ever Living! Qu'ran 2:55.

So, it finally dawns on you that Allah is LIVING but he doesn't obey the rules of biology.

So, back to the initial question:
I[i]s the SPIRIT alive or NOT?
[/i]
Hoping that you'll speak the truth now!

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by AntiChristian: 6:57am On Dec 19, 2022

TenQ:
So, it finally dawns on you that Allah is LIVING but he doesn't obey the rules of biology.

So, back to the initial question:
I[i]s the SPIRIT alive or NOT?
[/i]
Hoping that you'll speak the truth now!

There's no evidence to say it's alive or not!

The spirit that your God blew to Adam, was it living in itself?

Where is the Bible verse in Genesis that corroborates that?

Re: According To Islam: What Is A Spirit by AntiChristian: 6:58am On Dec 19, 2022

TenQ:
The Question is simple:
Is Allahz ALIVE or NOT?

Don't be dumb!

Allah is Ever living!

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