Masterviolence:

Do a little research before making a point

Then show me 2 matches in world cup where a black team or black dominated team won on penalty shootout.

Masterviolence:

It seems you started watching football in 2022.

If you want to go that route you won't like it, I thought you were polite that was the reason for my cool initial submission but seems I am wrong about you

NwaMamaIwota:
mynd44 nlfpmod Seun Dominique
Rule 2

This stupid dwarf chestbeater, are you not tired of this silly behavior?

HBB1:





You sound ao pathetic

Hope you are still alive?

Yes I am. And hope your mother is still alive? because she may die soon from your folly

Peacecore:
Unity beggers. We no gree, una go chop vawulence tire.

Not everyone here is interested in arguing unnecessarily, u should know that

Seankhalifa:
@poeticmind.. where is my 10k Argentina don enter final... abi u just be millionaire for nairaland

Drop your aza for credit man.

ThierryJay:


True. Especially if they adopt a similar tactic to Scaloni's Argentina style. Only thing I hope is that Mbappe does not bring bad blood to Messi back in PSG cos I think his attitude and body language has been disrespectful to Messi.

In his mind, the competition for Ballon dor is between himself and Messi going forward so that might influence him to start putting in selfish displays in the rest of the club campaign. Not like Messi would care though in his usual humble manner.

You are right. The boy is gradually exhibiting traits of a disrespectful kid. Well, It will be his loss cos Messi have nothing to prove anymore.

I want to believe Christopher Galtier have learnt a thing or two from Scaloni on how to deploy a player like Messi. Messi balled like a 27-28years in this World Cup. Argentina without Messi is average.

Scaloni did a good job with that team.

Willie2015:


Thats a straight lie ....
Balo missed penalties against Frosinone and Nice ....
Matt Le Tissier 49 1 record...thats the best in the world...
D same Kluivert that missed a penalty ...
in the 62nd minute of the same game in Euro 2000...
And the best you could come up with ...
is only just 2 names.. thats poor...
We all know when it comes to penalty shoot...
Blacks dont live up to expectation...

Where's the evidence that he missed penalties against both teams
That doesn't change the fact that Kluivert scored from the spot while you're not talking about Frank De Boer who missed both penalties he played in the match and during the shoot out. The other player who missed was white as well.
Someone already mentioned three other black players which is why I added two or are you blind to read?
You're the only one who knows that. There's no cogent evidence to back up your obviously silly claim. Missing penalties has nothing to do with skin colour
Messi has missed more penalties than any player of his calibre.
Pogba and Rashford had better penalty conversion rate for Man U before Ronaldo came.

realestate99:

If you want to go that route you won't like it, I thought you were polite that was the reason for my cool initial submission but seems I am wrong about you

I'm all about fact here. I don't have the time to insult people.

If you want to take about this particular tournament then we can focus on this tournament, you don't have to generalized football because of one tournament.

Blacks are also good penalty takers, what would you say about mbappé who scored twice from the penalty spot and also at the shootout yesterday.

Or is mbappé a caucasian?

realestate99:

Then show me 2 matches in world cup where a black team or black dominated team won on penalty shootout.

It was only one African team that played in a penalty shootout and they won fair and square.

realestate99:

Then show me 2 matches in world cup where a black team or black dominated team won on penalty shootout.

If you see France as a black dominated team I wouldn't argue with you on that, but it is good to know that this french team are not really good on penalty. on the other hand Argentina are the best in it. Not just the best but they have a solid history in it.

So are you going to compare a team that is not good in penalty, to a team that history has shown to be the best in it?
Note that there's no team right now that can beat Argentina on a penalty shootout, not because one is a black man or a white man.

It is because once you're good at something you're good at something, period.

realestate99:

That is not racism but reality, blacks are poor @ penalty, I am talking from keen observation of many years, I told the guy beside me that 2 out of 4 blacks will loose penalty for France, after the match he was looking for me and he asked how I came to that conclusion, when the stakes are high, most black players lack composure, it is not about racism, just reality.

You can't say something like that without backing it with statistical evidence. It's not enough to draw such conclusion based on "keen observation". Please kindly provide record showing how many blacks have played penalties in the last 4 world cups and the percentage of missed penalties, and also provide record showing how many whites have played penalties and the percentage of missed penalties in the last 4 world cups.

Nefort:

You can't say something like that without backing it with statistical evidence. It's not enough to draw such conclusion based on "keen observation". Please kindly provide record showing how many blacks have played penalties in the last 4 world cups and the percentage of missed penalties, and also provide record showing how many whites have played penalties and the percentage of missed penalties in the last 4 world cups.

Solid response. Well done.

TristanX:


Yes I am. And hope your mother is still alive? because she may die soon from your folly

From my folly?

Hahaha.

Run along boy!

Oh kingscalls I forgot about you.

Hope you recover in time and have a Merry Christmas.

bukatyne:


@bold how?

It's like saying Moroccans represented Arabians.

No time to argue....all I can say to u take a time out to Google all France players n their background...

JasonScoolari:
UyaiIncomp.arabl, how far?

Lol. Yeye.

UyaiIncomparabl:


Lol. Yeye.

Next time don't try God, and don't try his son Jason.

Yeye.

JasonScoolari:
Next time don't try God, and don't try his son Jason.

Yeye.

Big head.

Magnoliaa:


Big head.

My lady, small head... How far

Like maradona like messi

JasonScoolari:
My lady, small head... How far

I am fine.

Magnoliaa:


I am fine.

Glad to hear that.

HBB1:


From my folly?

Hahaha.

Run along boy!

Yes from your folly. Don’t be a disgrace to her

TristanX:

Yes from your folly. Don’t be a disgrace to her

If you see me in person and know what I have done with my life, you would not spout that nonesense from your mouth.

It is obvious Messi is better than your Fave...

Just deal with it.

Datedoboy:
I think Mbappe is the first player in history to score a hatrick in a world cup final. Correct me if I'm wrong

No he isn't.
Someone did it in the 60s, I can't remember his name again but you can check Google for his name.
Mbappe is the second and only player to do it in the 21st century though

realestate99:

No one is undermining the importance of black players, they are pivotal for most elite world clubs but when it comes to penalty shootout they suck most times, that is the premise of the argument.

Broh when did u start watching world cup. U want to tell me in the history of world cup. Euros. Copa america. That black players has missed the most in a penalty shootout. Except u have been watching afcon. Do research thats what education is all about

Funnyman:
most of you guys just started watching football recently. It is such a shame. CR7 singlehandedly brought Portugal to the semi finals of GERMANY 2006, he played 3rd place against host Germany. Messi was an unused sub in that tournament while CR7 played 90 minutes for Portugal in every match. Ofcourse, messi and Argentina left at the quarterfinals shamelessly. But then Messi has always been fifa boy, scoring penalty in every single game of Qatar 2022, even bottling some of the penalties. Pessi for a reason

so Ronaldo 'singlehandedley' dragged a Portuguese team consisting of LUIS FIGO,DECO, RICARDO CARVALHO,HELDER POSTIGA, COSTINHA to world cup semis??

you Ronaldo fans are pathetic liars...una think say we nor watch that world cup ABI??...

Ronaldo's biggest contribution in the whole of that world cup was scoring the final penalty in Portugal's quarter final penalty shoot out victory over a 10 man English team after Rooney was red carded in the second half of the match.

Messi has won the world cup...every other argument is secondary

Dollywood:


You're very dumb for that statement. Your poverty-riddled ass really typed that with a budget transsion phone to discredit an incredible manager because things didn't go your way.

I have been hearing "he shouldn't have removed Di Maria" yen yen yen. Shut the Bleep up! It's easier to say such when you're in the comfort of your home. Not every game plan works out. He probably felt they've killed the match with 2nil up and needs some fresh legs to keep the French attackers at bay.

Lionel Scaloni changed Argentina. Since he picked up the managerial role of the El Albiceleste. He has went to reach 3 consecutive finals (Copa América, Finalissima, World Cup). The same Argentina that lost three back to back finals from World Cup 2014, Copa América 2015 and 16.

Of course, you still won't give him his flowers because Messi is flourishing under him, and your walnut-sized brain is still thinking Messi changed Argentina, but instead Scaloni changed Argentina. He brought them together and won games with them together.

The world cup is not smooth sail for any team. Do you think other managers are there to watch Messi play?

This same manager has won the last five World Cup matches without Di-maria and Dybala, but ye unintelligent creatures can't read between the lines, can't figure out when something doesn't just fit in the rhythm.

You just want the big names to start every game even if they're not in form, or doesn't fit the manager's game plan. Just like one archipelago incarnate here on Argentina's threads that was always screaming "the coach na fool, he suppose dey start Dybala. Na Messi dey carry this team."

I had to ridicule him for being such a monkey that he is.

Next time, you shut the Bleep up and let the manager do his Job. ye monkey goons don't have 5% of the football knowledge and tactics he has, but somehow are quick to slit his throat when the game doesn't go has planned.

Except from Messi in the Argentina starting eleven, mentioned one big name there? I guess you can't. Scaloni triumphed big nations with Argentina's raw talents that even yet to widely recognised in Europe.

Worst coach? Take that back. He's the #1 manager in the world right now. Don't let your emotions get the better of you like a little bitch you are.

I wish I can throw you some uppercuts and crush your jaw, right now for being so stupid.

you just they talk many many things .. d coach almost use his hands to ruin that France match by removing dimaria. The reason why he was benching dimaria prior to the final because he had a little injury and he kept him on the bench. Dimaria was not fully fit for that match and that's the reason why he removed him and not because of new legs. D coach no go get mind remove dimaria normally . If I was the coach, would have left him because he was the only one making France useless in that midfield. You saw how every turned against Argentina when dimaria was removed. As for dyballa, the coach has not been playing him for sometime now and not this world cup alone, even Copa America, that's the reason why he was always trending on Twitter anytime Argentina plays. Dyballa is good but Alvarez is more smarter, u saw how Martinez ruin most of their chances and alvarez always come true. The beauty of this team was that they were playing for Messi to win because he has sacrificed a lot for them, they were also dedicated and play as a team, no selfish interest. Thanks to the keeper too, he was the hero for me. Messi really played everything for this world cup and he was destined to win it this time. The happiness in the world is something else because Messi won. I wore a white native when watching that match and when Argentina won ,I ran outside and was Rolling on d dirty floor outside, I was so happy because Messi dn try.

OJEEMAH:
PSG players did well in this World Cup and with what Mbappe and Messi played, they fit knock bayern out ooh.

mbappe too get pride abeg.. I want Messi to leave psg n go to man city if possible

OJEEMAH:
I want him to retire too but right now he probably thinks he doesn’t have anything to proof. He just wants to enjoy his new status.

the coach is begging him to stay