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MikeofAfrica:
1..Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of the Law ( Romans 8: 3 - 5).
The death and resurrection of Jesus fulfilled all the laws of the OT on our behalf. It is that fulfillment of the law that gave Christians the right to make " Sunday " the day of worship instead of Sabbath day, Saturday.

2. Jesus modified the OT laws into two. Love God and your neighbour. Any of the OT laws that does not relate to these two is inconsequential. Hence we have the right to modify and neglect the laws of Moses that does not relate with the laws of Christ. That is the reason women having their mensuration period can now attend church service. The laws of Moses is against that.

3. We have the power to select a day for celebrating the birth of Christ. Remember that the Calendar we are using is not from God but from man. Hence if a man can decide that January 1st is the first day of the year, why can't christians decide that December 25th is the birthday of Jesus.

4. When God created the heavens and Earth, it was fill with darkness. He then commanded Light to appear and the darkness vanished. We are created in the image of God. Hence we can destroy the darkness in a pagan' s shrine and bring the light of God into that same place hence making it a place of worshipping God. That is what the missionaries did when they came to Africa.

1. Stop spewing meaningless soundbites you feed from the the mouths of your men of gods. Jesus Christ told you that He is the Covenant of peace promised by God to the House of Jacob, Law God established with Israel. And nothing in that law states you are to worship God on Sundays.

2. Now you accuse Jesus Christ of sinning against God who made it clear that no one has authority to add, remove or change the National Constitution of the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan which He, God, gave to the House of Jacob through Moses? Are you for real?

How can you claim to have right when God Himself made certain that you never had right to begin with in any of His dealings? Even those who are of the blood of Jacob, to this day, cannot boast of such right as by doing so they only reveal their arrogance.

3. All you have is power to install a pagan holiday over yourselves but you have no authority or power given you by God to add, change or remove from His Love. The right to claim in such is born of delusions.

4. Destroy what darkness? The Darkness God instead commands you learn to live at peace with?

God gave men Law, yet over and men continue to choose religion over God's Law. Yet in arrogance they also claim they are of God. That remains the story as it was from the beginning up till now!

Kobojunkiee:
1. Stop spewing meaningless soundbites you feed from the the mouths of your men of gods. Jesus Christ told you that He is the Covenant of peace promised by God to the House of Jacob, Law God established with Israel. And nothing in that law states you are to worship God on Sundays.

2. Now you accuse Jesus Christ of sinning against God who made it clear that no one has authority to add, remove or change the National Constitution of the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan which He, God, gave to the House of Jacob through Moses? Are you for real?

How can you claim to have right when God Himself made certain that you never had right to begin with in any of His dealings? Even those who are of the blood of Jacob, to this day, cannot boast of such right as by doing so they only reveal their arrogance.

3. All you have is power to install a pagan holiday over yourselves but you have no authority or power given you by God to add, change or remove from His Love. The right to claim in such is born of delusions.

4. Destroy what darkness? The Darkness God instead commands you learn to live at peace with?

God gave men Law, yet over and men continue to choose religion over God's Law. Yet in arrogance they also claim they are of God. That remains the story as it was from the beginning up till now!

Jesus Christ is God. Hence He has the right to modify the commandments of God. He is the fulfillment of the laws of Moses hence if you believe in Jesus, you do not have to fulfill the laws of Moses.

That is the reason a woman having her period can now enter the temple of God. That is why a bastard can also enter the temple of God. These were not possible under the laws of Moses.

However, Jesus delivered us from the curse of breaking the laws of Moses( Galatians 3:13-15). Hence we are no longer living under the laws of Moses but under the laws of Christ which is love God and your neighbour.

Since Jesus is the fulfillment of the law, the day of His ressurrection ( Sunday) replaced the Sabbath day as the day of worship for Christians.

God has given us the right and power to change the day of worship from Saturday to Sunday.

Matthew 16:19 says whatever we degree on Earth shall be accepted in Heaven.

Kobojunkiee:
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Christmas is Pagan period. Christmas is an avenue for "Christians" to participate in a Pagan celebration. Was Christ born in December? We are free to celebrate however we want .... but just don't get it twisted .... Christmas is not of Christ and has nothing to do with Christianity.

Merry Christmas y'all

Which part of Christianity is not pagan ?

chatinent:
Actually, what happens today during Christmas has always happened right from inception . Today was never Jesus' birthday anyways...unless you can quote me a scripture saying otherwise.

You do know that Christianity existed before the new testament was written...

Or you just high?

chatinent:
Where is it in the Bible that Jesus was born on December 25th?

Or maybe because he is a myth..

Kobojunkiee:
Do you know how the term Pagan is applied, at least in scripture?

Any idea that was not part or God's Law to His people where considered to be Pagan in origin. Jesus Christ never instructed His followers to celebrate Him or His birthday. In John 5 vs 41 Jesus Christ even declared that He does not desire praise from any human. So, when you say that the idea for the celebration of his assumed birth date comes, not from Jesus Christ Himself but from men who you pretend were his followers you admit that the idea is indeed of Pagan origin.

Sadly, you don't realize that by asserting your celebration is in His honor, you sin against Him.


Merry Christmas!

Did God originally ask anybody to believe in a crucified man?

The people that created the story said his birthday is 25th December...why are you arguing with them?

MikeofAfrica:
1. Jesus Christ is God. Hence He has the right to modify the commandments of God. He is the fulfillment of the laws of Moses hence if you believe in Jesus, you do not have to fulfill the laws of Moses. That is the reason a woman having her period can now enter the temple of God. That is why a bastard can also enter the temple of God. These were not possible under the laws of Moses.

2. However, Jesus delivered us from the curse of breaking the laws of Moses( Galatians 3:13-15). Hence we are no longer living under the laws of Moses but under the laws of Christ which is love God and your neighbour.

3. Since Jesus is the fulfillment of the law, the day of His ressurrection ( Sunday) replaced the Sabbath day as the day of worship for Christians. God has given us the right and power to change the day of worship from Saturday to Sunday.

Matthew 16:19 says whatever we degree on Earth shall be accepted in Heaven.

1. Jesus Christ Himself explained to you via His teachings that He is subject to the Father .I.e the Father is greater than Him. He Jesus Christ also told you that He did not come to abolish the Law - add, change or remove from it or even do away with it in anyway-- since the Law is Everlasting meaning it is forever unchanhih. Please stop with these wicked attempts to make a joke of God.

2. Jesus Christ could not have developed you from a curse that you were never under since, again, God made it clear that the Law, and its curse, applies only to those who are of the blood of Jacob - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20.

3. Jesus Christ was an Israelite born in the land of Canaan, and as He told you He came to fulfil the Law as every Israelite who lived in the land was expected to by God. He made this clear to you He explained that God's Law is eternal --- heaven and earth will pass away but God's Law will never.

Again, Jesus Christ never gave you your day of worship. Instead the idea is born of men hence it is Pagan in origin. Also, the power to bind and lose only applies to that which exists simultaneously In both Heaven and on earth. Your days of worship have no connection to the Kingdom of God since, again, they are pagan defined.

NNTR:
What matters, is have the balls, to acknowledge and admit the truth, that Jesus wasnt born on December 25th, but its all a pretence, a lie, a sham, a play along that He was born on that day

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Maybe it's time to check if the story is even true...
Or are you scared of what you might find?

sonmvayina:
Maybe it's time to check if the story is even true...

Dont fret yourself, as time will snitch

sonmvayina:
Or are you scared of what you might find?

Scared isnt in my vocabulary.
Demon possessed posters find out, that, I scare the life out of them

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
Dont fret yourself, as time will snitch

Scared isnt in my vocabulary.
Demon possessed posters find out, that, I scare the life out of them

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Better now than letter..

sonmvayina:
Better now than letter..

There's nothing like 'Better now than letter..' however note this, patience is a noble virtue.

The best things in life, are worth waiting for, so accept the fact, that things, must unfold and happen, at their appointed time


_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
There's nothing like 'Better now than letter..' however note this, patience is a noble virtue.

The best things in life, are worth waiting for, so accept the fact, that things, must unfold and happen, at their appointed time


_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

You will regret you never heeded my words...

sonmvayina:
You will regret you never heeded my words...

Regret is boring, it is a terrible waste of energy

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Kobojunkiee:
1. Jesus Christ Himself explained to you via His teachings that He is subject to the Father .I.e the Father is greater than Him. He Jesus Christ also told you that He did not come to abolish the Law - add, change or remove from it or even do away with it in anyway-- since the Law is Everlasting meaning it is forever unchanhih. Please stop with these wicked attempts to make a joke of God.

2. Jesus Christ could not have developed you from a curse that you were never under since, again, God made it clear that the Law, and its curse, applies only to those who are of the blood of Jacob - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20.

3. Jesus Christ was an Israelite born in the land of Canaan, and as He told you He came to fulfil the Law as every Israelite who lived in the land was expected to by God. He made this clear to you He explained that God's Law is eternal --- heaven and earth will pass away but God's Law will never.

Again, Jesus Christ never gave you your day of worship. Instead the idea is born of men hence it is Pagan in origin. Also, the power to bind and lose only applies to that which exists simultaneously In both Heaven and on earth. Your days of worship have no connection to the Kingdom of God since, again, they are pagan defined.

The Landlord of a House in Lagos promised his son that if he graduate with a first class from the University, he will make the son the landlord. The son later graduated with first class, hence the father handed the house documents to him.

The son became the landlord of all the tenants in his father's house. This means that the son can increase their rent , change the rules set by his father and take other decisions without getting approval from the father.

According to the book of Philippians 2: 8-11, Jehovah handed over the authority in heaven,earth and under the earth to Jesus after His resurrection. Hence Jesus has the power to set aside any law of God given to Moses. He is the incumbent landlord , the God of Heaven and Earth.
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Using His power, He modified all the Laws of Moses into two. Love the Lord your God with all your strength and also love your neighbour as yourself. Once you obey these two commandments of the incumbent landlord, you have fullfill the laws of His father.

Now let me ask you, are you still observing the Laws of Moses? Remember the laws of Moses forbids you from shaving the top of your beard ? Are you heavyly bearded like Moses and other ancient people? Do you forbid your wife from leaving your house when she is having her monthly period according to the law of Moses?

God gave man dominion over the earth when He created man. Jesus restored that Dominion power to man by defeating the devil. Hence just as man has the power to create the calendar used on Earth, man also has the power to create holidays on Earth base on this calendar.

You can decide to call it pagan worship. Jesus Christ ate and drank with pagans in the Bible ( Mark 2: 15-16). He celebrated with the pagans during their festival at the house of Levi.

Hence allow us to also celebrate Xmas with the pagans. We love them just as Jesus Christ love them.

MikeofAfrica:
1. The Landlord of a House in Lagos promised his son that if he graduate with a first class from the University, he will make the son the landlord. The son later graduated with first class, hence the father handed the house documents to him. The son became the landlord of all the tenants in his father's house. This means that the son can increase their rent , change the rules set by his father and take other decisions without getting approval from the father. According to the book of Philippians 2: 8-11, Jehovah handed over the authority in heaven,earth and under the earth to Jesus after His resurrection. Hence Jesus has the power to set aside any law of God given to Moses. He is the incumbent landlord , the God of Heaven and Earth.

2. Using His power, He modified all the Laws of Moses into two. Love the Lord your God with all your strength and also love your neighbour as yourself. Once you obey these two commandments of the incumbent landlord, you have fullfill the laws of His father.

3. Now let me ask you, are you still observing the Laws of Moses? Remember the laws of Moses forbids you from shaving the top of your beard ? Are you heavyly bearded like Moses and other ancient people? Do you forbid your wife from leaving your house when she is having her monthly period according to the law of Moses?

4. God gave man dominion over the earth when He created man. Jesus restored that Dominion power to man by defeating the devil. Hence just as man has the power to create the calendar used on Earth, man also has the power to create holidays on Earth base on this calendar.
You can decide to call it pagan worship. Jesus Christ ate and drank with pagans in the Bible ( Mark 2: 15-16). He celebrated with the pagans during their festival at the house of Levi. Hence allow us to also celebrate Xmas with the pagans. We love them just as Jesus Christ love them.

1. So, even though the same Son told you Himself that He does only that which His Father tells Him to do, and that what His Father has decreed is everlasting— Heaven and earth will pass away but not a Jot of the Word of God will pass away - Matthew 5 v 17 - 20 — you continue to insist that your spin of a narrative of what should stand instead?

2. So, basically, your understanding is that Jesus Christ is nothing but a liar and a deceiver?

3. How can I submit myself to a Law which was given by God as[b] the National Constitution to the Nation of Israel in the land of Canaan [/b] only to those who are of the House of Israel -- Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20? Would I do such because I think God's wisdom was foolishness when He excluded all others from every other nation from that pact from its beginning?

Do you somehow think yourself wiser than even the Almighty as well or something?

4. So because Jesus Christ ate and drank with Pagans, you assume that in turn means all that is Pagan is then of Jesus Christ and His Kingdom?

Kobojunkiee:
1. So, even though the same Son told you Himself that He does only that which His Father tells Him to do, and that what His Father has decreed is everlasting— Heaven and earth will pass away but not a Jot of the Word of God will pass away - Matthew 5 v 17 - 20 — you continue to insist that your spin of a narrative of what should stand instead?

2. So, basically, your understanding is that Jesus Christ is nothing but a liar and a deceiver?

3. How can I submit myself to a Law which was given by God as[b] the National Constitution to the Nation of Israel in the land of Canaan [/b] only to those who are of the House of Israel -- Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20? Would I do such because I think God's wisdom was foolishness when He excluded all others from every other nation from that pact from its beginning?

Do you somehow think yourself wiser than even the Almighty as well or something?

4. So because Jesus Christ ate and drank with Pagans, you assume that in turn means all that is Pagan is then of Jesus Christ and His Kingdom?

I used the case of a Landlord and his son to explain to you how Jehovah gave the final authority in Heavens and Earth to Jesus Christ ( Philippians 2:8-11).

When Jesus was on Earth, His father was greater than Him as you mention. Hence He does only whatever His Father wants. However after His death and resurrection, the Father handed over the final authority in Heaven and Earth to Jesus.

Hence Jesus is no longer under the authority of the Father. He is an independent authority . When a Landlord hand over his House to his son that graduated with a good result, the son will become an independent authority like Jesus.

He can decide to renovate the house just as Jesus renovated the laws of Moses. He can decide to increase the rent of the tenants. The tenants will now be under the authority of the son who is the new landlord.

You said the law of Moses was only meant for the house of Isreal . Hence why are you insiting that we should observe the Sabbath day by going to church on Saturday rather than Sunday? Is it only in observing the Sabbath day, that you consider yourself a member of the house of Isreal.

If you want to follow the laws of Moses , follow it completely and stop deceiving yourself. Stop practising the easy laws and reserving the hard ones for the house of Israel.

The laws of Moses forbids you from shaving your beards. The laws of Moses forbids you from wearing cloths made of linen and cotton. The laws of Moses forbids your wife from leaving your house when she is having her period.

Jesus Christ ate with pagans because that is the best way to show them that He loves them. Xmas is about imitating this Love of Christ. We celebrate Xmas by showing love to people around us.

I once gave an expensive cloth to a Muslim during Xmas. This Muslim man was shocked and decided to follow me to my church some weeks later. He is today a devouted Christian.

That is how to celebrate Xmas. Showing love to pagans like Jesus did and winning souls to the kingdom of God.

MikeofAfrica:
1. I used the case of a Landlord and his son to explain to you how Jehovah gave the final authority in Heavens and Earth to Jesus Christ ( Philippians 2:8-11). When Jesus was on Earth, His father was greater than Him as you mention. Hence He does only whatever His Father wants. However after His death and resurrection, the Father handed over the final authority in Heaven and Earth to Jesus. Hence Jesus is no longer under the authority of the Father. He is an independent authority . When a Landlord hand over his House to his son that graduated with a good result, the son will become an independent authority like Jesus. He can decide to renovate the house just as Jesus renovated the laws of Moses. He can decide to increase the rent of the tenants. The tenants will now be under the authority of the son who is the new landlord.

2. You said the law of Moses was only meant for the house of Isreal . Hence why are you insiting that we should observe the Sabbath day by going to church on Saturday rather than Sunday? Is it only in observing the Sabbath day, that you consider yourself a member of the house of Isreal. If you want to follow the laws of Moses , follow it completely and stop deceiving yourself. Stop practising the easy laws and reserving the hard ones for the house of Israel. The laws of Moses forbids you from shaving your beards. The laws of Moses forbids you from wearing cloths made of linen and cotton. The laws of Moses forbids your wife from leaving your house when she is having her period.

3. Jesus Christ ate with pagans because that is the best way to show them that He loves them. Xmas is about imitating this Love of Christ. We celebrate Xmas by showing love to people around us. I once gave an expensive cloth to a Muslim during Xmas.

4. This Muslim man was shocked and decided to follow me to my church some weeks later. He is today a devouted Christian.That is how to celebrate Xmas. Showing love to pagans like Jesus did and winning souls to the kingdom of God.

1. These tall tales of yours seem neverending, don't they? It almost seems that is all you are filled with... lies. Or is what you are saying that when Jesus Christ Himself said that He goes to sit on the right-hand side of God, He, Jesus Christ lied? What you are insisting here is that even though Jesus Christ revealed Himself as being of three aspects of God, the Father — God's Law/Way, God's Truth, and God's Life as indicated in John 14 vs 6— You insist instead that when Jesus Christ ascended to Heaven, Jesus Christ ceased to be of only three aspects of the Father and instead became the Father an idea which suggests that Jesus Christ changed no longer the eternal being He is believed to be as change indicates a new beginning? (When an eternal being changes in aspect, He becomes a new creature... different from the Old being He used to be.)

2. Me? Insist you live by laws defined in a Constitution of a Nation that you are not born under nor are you a citizen of? I am afraid you have the wrong person to pin these lies of yours on here.

3. Wrong! Jesus Christ ate with Pagans because He did not come to seclude Himself from any man. He in turn told you that if you are to become His follower, you are to do as He commands— not what He does— of you since according to Him the Father's love is retained only for those who obey His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 15 - 20 & John 15 vs 9 - 11 & John 15 vs 14. So, when you claim you imitate Jesus Christ in your suggestions that that which is of Pagan roots is of Him, not only do you disobey His direct commandments to you but you prove yourself as one who does not even belong to Him let alone know Him.

4. Since the man followed you to join the group you belong to, it means all the man now has is what you have — religion rather than the Truth of God. Jesus Christ did warn that the blind will fall into the same ditch that their blind leaders will fall into - Matthew 15 vs 14.

Kobojunkiee:
1. These tall tales of yours seem neverending, don't they? It almost seems that is all you are filled with... lies. Or is what you are saying that when Jesus Christ Himself said that He goes to sit on the right-hand side of God, He, Jesus Christ lied?

2. Me? Insist you live by laws defined in a Constitution of a Nation that you are not born under nor are you a citizen of? I am afraid you have the wrong person to pin these lies of yours on here.

3. Wrong! Jesus Christ ate with Pagans because He did not come to seclude Himself from any man. He in turn told you that if you are to become His follower, you are to do as He commands— not what He does— of you since according to Him the Father's love is retained only for those who obey His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 15 - 20 & John 15 vs 9 - 11 & John 15 vs 14. So, when you claim you imitate Jesus Christ in your suggestions that that which is of Pagan roots is of Him, not only do you disobey His direct commandments to you but you prove yourself as one who does not even belong to Him let alone know Him.

4. Since the man followed you to join the group you belong to, it means all the man nows has is what you have — religion rather than the Truth of God. Jesus Christ did warn that the blind will fall into the same ditch that their blind leaders will fall into - Matthew 15 vs 14.

I have given you a layman example of how Jesus became the final authority in Heaven or Earth. He is sitting at the right hand of the Father and has modify the laws of Moses into two which is love the Lord your God with all your heart and love your neighbour as yourself.
Those commandments of Jesus is superceds every other law and commandments in the Bible.

Your argument has been that the laws of God given to Moses are everlasting and cannot be abolish or modify by Jesus Christ or anyone. However, when I began to read out the laws of Moses , you decided to change your argument.

You now believe the laws of Moses that you have been defending as been supreme are only meant for Israel.

Hence if the laws of Moses are only meant for Israel and Jesus Christ has no power to make any law according to you, which laws or commandments are you now living under?

It is only a hypocrite that will tell someone to only do what he says but never imitate his actions. Jesus leds by example, He is not a hypocrite. When you join a Bible living Church, you will learn more about Jesus and how you can follow His footsteps.

MikeofAfrica:
1. I have given you a layman example of how Jesus became the final authority in Heaven or Earth. He is sitting at the right hand of the Father and has modify the laws of Moses into two which is love the Lord your God with all your heart and love your neighbour as yourself.

2. Those commandments of Jesus is superceds every other law and commandments in the Bible.

3. Your argument has been that the laws of God given to Moses are everlasting and cannot be abolish or modify by Jesus Christ or anyone. However, when I began to read out the laws of Moses , you decided to change your argument. You now believe the laws of Moses that you have been defending as been supreme are only meant for Israel. Hence if the laws of Moses are only meant for Israel and Jesus Christ has no power to make any law according to you, which laws or commandments are you now living under?

4. It is only a hypocrite that will tell someone to only do what he says but never imitate his actions. Jesus leds by example, He is not a hypocrite.

5. When you join a Bible living Church, you will learn more about Jesus and how you can follow His footsteps.

1. I am afraid so-called examples are born of nothing but ignorance as every single one of them directly contradicts what was stated by Jesus Christ Himself regarding His personage.

2. Yet Jesus Christ Himself said that He did not come to do away with God's Old Law of Moses, the very same Law with which He, Jesus Christ, is expected to rule over Israel with when He returns to reign at the time of the resurrection, as prophesied by the prophets? You really don't know Jesus Christ, do you? You have no idea who He is?

3. You really don't even begin to understand who Jesus Christ is, at all! He told you He is the new agreement — a separate and New Covenant — that God makes with those who are of the House of Israel, the Covenant of peace prophesied by the prophets with God will gather back to Himself all of Israel whom He previously cursed and scattered to the wind - Deuteronomy 30 vs 1 - 6 & Isaiah vs 66 vs 18 - 26 & ..... Jesus Christ is God's New Law and Constitution in the Kingdom of God. The Gospel which Jesus Christ sent His followers out to preach is in fact God's New Law which He made with the House of Israel. - Jeremiah 31 vs 31 - 34

4. So, Jesus Christ, who told you that He lived His life according to God's Old Law — the Constitution of the Nation of Israel — is a hypocrite because He instead told His followers, whom He gave a New Law, that it is by living in continuous submission obedience of His teachings and commandments that they establish Himself as His followers as opposed to followers of God's Old Law? WOW!

5. Your ignorance of the truth of God is enough of a reason why no one should attempt to engage any of your bible-living churches which churn minds like yours out regularly... ignorance seems to represent bliss in all of them places.