Ive seen its a common move to copy british divide and conquer tactics, after convincing river state igbo's they are entirely unrelated and arent igbo they are now seperating them further, "their not ikwerre, they are actually ndoni" "ekpeye and ikwerre have nothing in common", the corrosive effect of ethnic politics on ethnic nations is a disturbing observation ive made.

New standards need to be made otherwise everyone will be claiming the next village over isnt related to them, henceforth degenerating nigerian society to a primitive society.

mrksquare:




When the 12 states structure was created by Yakubu Gowon in 1967, which state did Ndoki fall under ? Ndoki only became part of Rivers state when Imo state was created in 1976. And it was the boundary adjustment of 1976 that ceded Ndoni to Rivers state.

This is how you expose yourself to unnecessary ridicule
Is Ndoki same as Ndoni?
? Is that what your " historian" father told you?Are we discussing Ndoki?

omonnakoda:
This is how you expose yourself to unnecessary ridicule
Is Ndoki same as Ndoni?
? Is that what your " historian" father told you?Are we discussing Ndoki?

But why are you are not proud of your ancentry. I meant to say Ndoni. Ndoni was carved out of Imo state to Rivers state. This fact can't be contested. Even when Odili was governor, Rivers people were always making mockering on how an Igbo man from Imo state was ruling the state.

omonnakoda:
This is how you expose yourself to unnecessary ridicule
Is Ndoki same as Ndoni?
? Is that what your " historian" father told you?Are we discussing Ndoki?

Is a typo. But that still doesn't discount the substance of my argument. What demarcate Ndoni from Imo state is it not the Imo River? From Ndoni one could paddle with a cannoe into Imo state. This is a statement of fact.

mrksquare:



Is a typo. But that still doesn't discount the substance of my argument. What demarcate Ndoni from Imo state is it not the Imo River? From Ndoni one go paddle with a cannoe to Imo state. This is a statement of fact.

It is not a typo
Ndoki is close to Oyigbo
South Abia
Ndoni is former Western Region closer to Owerri.
They speak Ukwuani which is Kwale
Ndoni was NEVER part of Imo not even for one day
That typo argument does not hold because there was indeed a boundary adjustment affecting Ndoki in 1976. What it is is you read but did not comprehend,stop arguing blindly

mrksquare:



But why are you are not proud of your ancentry. I meant to say Ndoni. Ndoni was carved out of Imo state to Rivers state. This fact can't be contested. Even when Odili was governor, Rivers people were always making mockering on how an Igbo man from Imo state was ruling the state.

No it was not
Ndoni was carved out of MidWestern(Bendel) state. It was part of the Western Region in 1960
Repeat

Western Region
At no time was it part of Imo State

omonnakoda:
It is not a typo
Ndoki is close to Oyigbo
South Abia
Ndoni is former Western Region closer to Owerri.
They speak Ukwuani which is Kwale
Ndoni was NEVER part of Imo not even for one day
That typo argument does not hold because there was indeed a boundary adjustment affecting Ndoki in 1976. What it is is you read but did not comprehend,stop arguing blindly

Let's establish one fact. Are you saying Ndoni has always been part of Rivers state since the creation of Rivers state in 1967? And there was no boundary adjustment in 1976 that ceded Ndoni to Rivers state ?

mrksquare:




Let's establish one fact. Are you saying Ndoni has always been part of Rivers state since the creation of Rivers state in 1967? And there was no boundary adjustment in 1976 that ceded Ndoni to Rivers state ?

It was part of the Western Region in 1960 then the Mid Western Region then Mid Western State then Rivers state
In 1905 it was part of the Aboh Native authority
It is Kwale /Ukwuani
Nothing to do with Imo AT ALL

GO and look at a map

omonnakoda:
It was part of the Western Region in 1960 then the Mid Western Region then Mid Western State then Rivers state
In 1905 it was part of the Aboh Native authority
It is Kwale /Ukwuani
Nothing to do with Imo AT ALL

GO and look at a map

Ndoni was not part of Rivers state upon the creation of River state in 1967.

Even though you read the vanguard link I sent to you and pretended as though you didn't .

This article was written by someone from Ndoni.

http://www.ndoniusa.org/history-of-ndoni.html

mrksquare:



Ndoni was not part of Rivers state upon the creation of River state on 1967.

Even though you read the vanguard link I sent to you and pretended as though you didn't it. This article was written by someone from Ndoni.

http://www.ndoniusa.org/history-of-ndoni.html

See I did not pretend I told you it was not saying what you claimed
Where is the pretence
The point is that you did not comprehend it?so if you post a link provide a quote that you think is relevant to your point
Look quit this stubborn and blind argument
1. Ndoki is not Ndoni
2. Ndoni was NEVER part of Imo
So what is it in this new link that you want us to see?
Have you read it?
I know you probably cannot comprehend it either?

omonnakoda:
Lovely garri We use to travel to Emohua Elele and Igirita to buy garri 50 cups for one naira when it was 20 cups at Creek Road

Wow! So you know that Garri market in creek road, Town area?

sageb:


Wow! So you know that Garri market in creek road, Town area?

I am talking a very long time ago.
Is it still there?
That was when Lagos to Borokiri was 10 Kobo lol

omonnakoda:

See I did not pretend I told you it was not saying what you claimed
Where is the pretence
The point is that you did not comprehend it?so if you post a link provide a quote that you think is relevant to your point
Look quit this stubborn and blind argument
1. Ndoki is not Ndoni
2. Ndoni was NEVER part of Imo
So what is it in this new link that you want us to see?
I know you probably cannot comprehend it either?

Let's assume that Ndoni was never part of Imo. But do you agree that the boundary adjustment of 1976 was what ceded Ndoni to Rivers state? At least let's agree to disagree.

mrksquare:



But why are you are not proud of your ancentry. I meant to say Ndoni. Ndoni was carved out of Imo state to Rivers state. This fact can't be contested. Even when Odili was governor, Rivers people were always making mockering on how an Igbo man from Imo state was ruling the state.

The case is similar to Egbema. One part of Egbema is in Rivers state, The other part of Egbema is in Imo state.

sageb:


The case is similar to Egbema. One part of Egbema is in Rivers state, The other part of Egbema is in Imo state.

You have said it all. The people of Ogbaru in present day Anambra have same affinity with Ndoni people. Even when my friend went to marry his wife from Ogbaru we were told that they and Ndoni people are one.

omonnakoda:
I am talking a very long time ago. Is it still there? That was when Lagos to Borokiri was 10 Kobo lol

Yes,it is there but not as it was in the past. Elder, I salute you.

mrvitalis:

The anti Igbo sentiments by wike killed that alliance ...if he endorse Tinubu it's over forever ...but endorsement of Obi might mend it

He'll endorse Obi. He's not stupid.

sageb:


The case is similar to Egbema. One part of Egbema is in Rivers state, The other part of Egbema is in Imo state.

Very similar but inaccurate in factuality
the fundamental difference is Egbema ALWAYS was in the Eastern Region.before and after independence. I know Egbema(Imo and Rivers ) intimately. a major oil hub .
Ndoni is recorded as being in
1. before and after Independence 1960 the Western Region
2. Plebiscite 1963 MidWestern Region
3. Military decree 1967 MidWestern State
4. Boundary adjustment Rivers State

Instead of stubborn argument spend like 10 minutes to study a detailed map

sageb:


Yes,it is there but not as it was in the past.
Elder, I salute you.

I salute you more

sageb:


The case is similar to Egbema. One part of Egbema is in Rivers state, The other part of Egbema is in Imo state.

And what made Rivers state to win Imo state at the supreme court involving the oil wells in Egbema and Ndoni was the boundary adjustment map of 1976. That was the evidence the supreme court relied upon in ruling in favour of Rivers state.

mrksquare:



And what made Rivers state to win Imo state at the supreme court involving the oil wells in Egbema and Ndoni was the boundary adjustment map of 1976. That was the evidence the supreme court relied upon in ruling in favour of Rivers state.

The boundary dispute caused strife between The then Governor of Rivers state, Melford Okilo and the then Governor of Imo state, Sam mbakwe.

mrksquare:



And what made Rivers state to win Imo state at the supreme court involving the oil wells in Egbema and Ndoni was the boundary adjustment map of 1976. That was the evidence the supreme court relied upon in ruling in favour of Rivers state.

The adjustment on the map was between Rivers and MidWestern State which at the same time was renamed as Bendel.It is misleading to suggest the adjustment was with Imo that is wrong
At the same time there was an adjustment with Imo state
Remember this was the OLD Imo at Ndoki That adjustment win Ndoki is in what today is Abia.

It was very easy to win and reclaim the Ndoni wells because they were NEVER in th Eastern Region

jamesversion:



Hmmmm. You sure say you never reach 60years.

Na Old Town boy you Dey talk to so...

mrksquare:



You have said it all. The people of Ogbaru in present day Anambra have same affinity with Ndoni people. Even when my friend went to marry his wife from Ogbaru we were told that they and Ndoni people are one.

Ndoni and Ndoki are different geolocation entirely

Emu4u2c:

Ndoni and Ndoki are different geolocation entirely

It was printer's devilry on account of typing very fast. I meant Ndoni and not Ndoki.

chrisxxx:

The Ikwerres of which I am one have never used anything Igbo to curry favour in Rivers State. I challenge do your worst to renegade the Ikwerres. When we had the Bayelsans in Rivers it was tough for the Ikwerre people of course the reason was well known. As it is presently indigenes or not Ikwerres hold the ace. Your type cant do anything about it.

See this one. If not for Odili who picked Ikwerre to be Governor, who know you people. Had Odili given that political ace to Ekpeye or Etche, by now you guys will be begging for even Deputy Governor. Whether you admit it not, Ikwerre political dominance was inflated by the Igboid collaboration. All tribes in the upland including groups like Opobo/Bonny made it possible for Ikwerre to hold the ace thanks to the anti-Ijaw sentiments that's grew before and after the creation of Bayelsa state. In addition, the sentimental votes of the non-indigenous Igbos in Port Harcourt also helped by adding massive votes to Ikwerre dominance.

If Ikwerre continue this stupid pomposity and thought of thinking they own Rivers state, I see the Igbos switching sides to another ethnic group in the state.

sageb:


which welfare?
someone that Could not pay the aged Retirees for 7 years now.
What of Civil service recruitment in 2020 that was cancelled, till date nothing have been said about it.
let me stop here

Infrastructure nko?
All 12 flyovers you are seeing is sited in Obio Akpor which is wike's LGA.
why abandon the other LGAs and focus on only Obio Akpor and PHAlGA?

If you lived in Rivers in Amaechi's tenure and Wike's tenure, you would know that Amaechi is better and more open to all.

I challenge you that you are holed up somewhere in obio Akpor. Come to think óf it how does Fly over benefit Ikwerre people? Rumuokwuta is gone with little or no compensation. Some of you deserve correctional slaps froma psychiatrist.

mrksquare:



The chunk of Obio Akpor population are inhabited by strangers and not people naive to Ikwerre. Talk of numerical strength that is indigenous to that area give it to Khana Local government. The Ikwerres do not have the voting strength to produce governor without votes from other non Ikwerre LGAs.

No tribes in Rivers State can do thát alone. However u may see it you have to swallow it alas a bitter pill that Ikwerre will until state creation dictate the political direction of Rivers State.

And who told you Odili is from Ikwerre??

Ebubu:
yes they’ll return after 8 years.

for ikwerre to rule rivers for 24 years uninterrupted, should tell you they are the “northerners” of rivers state

odili, amaechi and wike sum up 24 years back to back ruling.


they can’t do it if they’re not that strong.

unless rivers is divided into two states; riverine and upland states

out of 100 years, ikwerre will rule 88 years.

Eastlink:
See this one. If not for Odili who picked Ikwerre to be Governor, who know you people. Had Odili given that political ace to Ekpeye or Etche, by now you guys will be begging for even Deputy Governor. Whether you admit it not, Ikwerre political dominance was inflated by the Igboid collaboration. All tribes in the upland including groups like Opobo/Bonny made it possible for Ikwerre to hold the ace thanks to the anti-Ijaw sentiments that's grew before and after the creation of Bayelsa state. In addition, the sentimental votes of the non-indigenous Igbos in Port Harcourt also helped by adding massive votes to Ikwerre dominance.

If Ikwerre continue this stupid pomposity and thought of thinking they own Rivers state, I see the Igbos switching sides to another ethnic group in the state.

You and your igbos have always had etched hatred for Ikwerre people. Odili ceded the position to Ikwerre people because he made Ikwerre his support base know that they are in majority. I am challenging you do your worst to change the equation. Some of you are ignorant of what is happening in your home state and would be somewhere law abiding people have made liveable and be constituting avoidable nuisance.

sageb:


which welfare?
someone that Could not pay the aged Retirees for 7 years now.
What of Civil service recruitment in 2020 that was cancelled, till date nothing have been said about it.
let me stop here

Infrastructure nko?
All 12 flyovers you are seeing is sited in Obio Akpor which is wike's LGA.
why abandon the other LGAs and focus on only Obio Akpor and PHAlGA?

If you lived in Rivers in Amaechi's tenure and Wike's tenure, you would know that Amaechi is better and more open to all.

Yeah, I agree. Amaechi was better than Wike. Ameachi’s project dots everywhere and every LGA as compared to Wike who limited it to Ikwerre areas.

chrisxxx:

No tribes in Rivers State can do thát alone. However u may see it you have to swallow it alas a bitter pill that Ikwerre will until state creation dictate the political direction of Rivers State.

They will not. Hope you are aware that Andonni, Bonny, Okrika, Kalabari, Abua, Opobo, etc are all Ijaw speaking bloc.

If the Ogonis produces the governor and take development to their area, it will alter the dynamics of the momentary Ikwerre hegemony. Is a matter of opening up Ogoni for people to come and buy land and build houses. Before you know it, their voting population has quadrupled. After the ijaws in the old Rivers state, the next ethnic group that has the highest voting strength is the Ogonis.

Is in realization of this fact that is why Wike do not want to open up the hinterland. That is why he has constructed 8 flyovers in Obio Akpor alone. Because he knows it will aid in shoring up the population of his LGA. Any first timer that comes to PH wants to stay in either PH or Obio Akpor. So Wike strategy is what is called politics of development.